Thursday, April 30, 2020

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 11 topics

"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Apr 30 09:31AM -0700

On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 6:36:46 AM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
 
> When you are "reading" is ADVERTISING, not real world evidence!
 
> And yes, engineers often "Derate" specs, duh!
 
> John Kuthe...
 
Specs as of 2017 - 10 ELECTRIC CARS WITH MOST RANGE
 
Kia Soul EV
111 miles (179 km)
 
BMW i3
81 miles (130 km) or 114 miles (183 km)
 
Hyundai IONIQ Electric
124 miles (200 km)
 
Volkswagen e-Golf
125 miles (201 km)
 
Nissan LEAF
Up to 150 miles (240 km)
 
Renault ZOE (Only Europe)
185 miles (300 km)
 
Chevy Bolt
238 miles (383 km)
 
Tesla Model 3
220 miles (354 km) or 310 miles (499 km)
 
Tesla Model X
237 miles (381 km), 289 miles (465), or 295 miles (475 km)
 
Tesla Model S
259 miles (417 km), 315 miles (507 km), or 335 miles (539 km)
 
Are most of these cars still in production? I haven't a clue and don't
care. But one thing for sure, these are not the cars you want to drive
on a cross-country trip unless you have unlimited time to get to your
destination.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Apr 30 09:40AM -0700

> care. But one thing for sure, these are not the cars you want to drive
> on a cross-country trip unless you have unlimited time to get to your
> destination.
 
I'd much rather fly across the country than drive it.
 
Of course my first choice would be to stay at home. Until we have
teleportation, that is.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Apr 30 01:01PM -0400

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> Of course my first choice would be to stay at home.
 
Unless you need some lettuce. :)
Silvar Beitel <silverbeetle@charter.net>: Apr 30 08:10AM -0700

Not hash browns. :-)
 
A mushroom galette.
 
I had a package of mushrooms that I needed to use up, so ...
 
2 Tbsp. butter
10 oz. baby bella mushrooms, small ones left whole, mediums halved, larges quartered.
1/2 onion, diced
1 rib celery, diced
1 clove garlic, crushed/chopped fine
1 tsp. Better Than Bouillon (veggie flavoring paste)
1/4 cup water
1/4 cup dry sherry
1 Tbsp. corn starch
1 tsp. dried thyme
(salt if you're not using BTB, which has plenty of its own)
 
1 recipe 10-inch pie crust. (I follow good old Betty Crocker, but use half butter, half vegetable shortening. Should have made it part whole wheat.)
 
Sautee things in the logical order. Mix bouillon, water, sherry, and corn starch together and dump that and thyme into veggies. Cook until thickened. Scrape into center of pie crust. Fold outer part of crust over filling. Bake about 30 minutes at 375 degrees F or until crust looks done to your taste.
 
Served with tomato salad and simple steamed green beans.
 
Photos here (if link works):
 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/8JTAVXEMwvLVAxKH6
 
--
Silvar Beitel
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Apr 30 12:57PM -0400

Silvar Beitel wrote:
 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/8JTAVXEMwvLVAxKH6
 
> --
> Silvar Beitel
 
Will look at the photos later but what you made sounds good.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Apr 30 01:02PM -0400

On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 08:10:45 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
 
>Served with tomato salad and simple steamed green beans.
 
>Photos here (if link works):
 
>https://photos.app.goo.gl/8JTAVXEMwvLVAxKH6
 
Obviously you knew that link wouldn't work or you'd naot have
mentioned it. No photo, link is dead... unfortunate because it sounds
good. A half an onion is meaningless as onions come in all sizes...
when I buy onions I look for a bag that contains several sizes, then I
choose one sized for the amount I want... I never use part of an onion
as there is really no way to save a cut onion so that it won't stink
up your fridge and keep it from going all woofy. For a small amount
of onion I usually have a bunch of scallions because I like some in
salads and for Oriental cookery. I also always have a jar of diced
dehy onions, only needs 15 minutes to rehydrate a small amount. And
since your creation contains garlic you'd save time and effort using
shallot.
Rather than cornstarch I'd pour a couple three beaten eggs into the
mix in the already dirtied frypan. I really don't like pie crust, I'd
rather it on toast, a UK muffin, or not. Would be nice to add a diced
bell pepper too. Me, I'd eliminate the boullion, for saltiness I'd
add a cup of diced SPAM.
 
Rather than Google, Amazon, and other broken/slow methods may I
suggest this for posting pictures: https://postimages.org/
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Apr 30 12:57PM -0400

Sheldon Martin wrote:
> >to start it.
 
> Needs a ham hock or three, and a fistful of collard greens, otherwise
> those limas will taste like nothing.
 
Wrong as usual.
 
> And crockpot is NOT cooking,
> it's FAKING! Crockpot is cooking like paint by numbers is art. TIAD
> runs rampant in your house.
 
Wrong again, watery pot roast boy.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Apr 30 01:01PM -0400

KenK wrote:
> > grocery store this morning (for other things), I'm going
> > to start it.
 
> Hope you like it. I'm currently eating another big bowl of it.
 
Well Ken...you win! I like it a lot! Started the pot around
noon yesterday and let it cook on high for about 8 hours
(with lid on).
 
Funny...in the first couple of hours, my whole place just
reaked of garlic. Eh-oh. I thought I might have gone
overboard with that but as it cooked down, it mellowed
and was perfect amount.
 
I took a sample after 6 hours cooking and beans were still a
bit hard so I let it go for 2 more.
 
At 8pm I tasted again and it was right, so I then turned down
crockpot to low and I even left it on all night like that.
 
About 2am this morning, I got up and enjoyed a half cup of it.
 
Anyway, it's delicious and I thank you for posting it. The other
half bag of limas will be cooked the same way in the future.
 
This morning, I put away 3+ pints to eat in the future. The
first pint will be my late lunch today. It's very tasty.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Apr 30 10:59AM -0400

On 2020-04-30 8:55 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
 
> Were you aware that healthcare is hard to get in Canada and many Canadians
> come to the U.S. for treatment they are denied? Me neither, yet thousands
> upon thousands of Americans believe it.
 
 
Yeah... apparently we have long wait periods too. Stuff like that gets
perpetuated by people like my sister in law who told her daughter's
American inlaws about how long she had been waiting for knee
replacements. She was less than honest about that because she didn't
tell them that she was the reason for the delay.... too cowardly to deal
with the inevitable pain. I had not waiting problem with my heart
issue. It was only about a month from the time I saw my physician, was
referred to a cardiologist who sent me for an angiogram and immediate
bypass surgery.
 
The last time I was at the hospital was about 6 years ago when I thought
I had stomach flue. My wife insisted I go to the hospital. I agreed to
go early in the morning. I arrived an an empty ER at 6:30 am, was seen
within minutes, set or tests, admitted by 9:30, stabilized and had
surgery the next morning.
 
My wife had had retinal problems Each time she went to the ER, got
referred to a ophthalmologist and had surgery the next day.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Apr 30 12:59PM -0400

Bruce wrote:
> The question remains: why do you have many more dense people than
> other developed countries?
 
Please do tell us dummies about the Australian heath care
system. We here never hear about that on our news. Probably
because why would we even care what goes on there?
 
Obama changed ours but didn't get it right and actually
screwed the "working lower middle class." Good try
though.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Apr 30 01:00PM -0400

Bruce wrote:
> about the worst system in the developed world. It's the best system if
> you have money and want to get every possible treatment known to man.
> But if you have no money, you're absolutely screwed."
 
Another wooden shoe person is an expert on American anything.
What's with you people? Sounds like USA envy to me.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Apr 30 12:59PM -0400

No doubt, I'll lose electricity for a bit a few hours from
now. Cshenkie too.
 
Completely worthless info to the rest of you here
but I just had to mention it. :)
Boron Elgar <boron_elgar@hotmail.com>: Apr 30 12:36PM -0400

On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 20:27:14 -0600, U.S. Janet B. <JB@nospam.com>
wrote:
 
>But I agree on the racism and immigration bias. People like that
>just don't count :(
>Janet US
 
 
Smithfield is Chinese owned, so while he owes hundreds of millions to
a state run Chinese bank, he will maybe do a bit of public tweaking,
probably through prior agreement, he will let the company get away
with murder.
 
Oh, and notice that he chased out Chinese journalists and they chased
out ours. What a nice way to keep journalists from either place from
investigating the crooked craziness and dangerous business and health
practices..
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Apr 30 12:58PM -0400

"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
> the farmers aren't going to vote for rump or any GOP if the farmer can
> see his produce rotting in the field or on the tree.
 
I will say one thing. You are certainly steady in your hatred
of everything Trump.
 
You just said the he wants all factory workers to work yet he
will be voted out because farm workers won't pick vegetables.
He wants everyone to get back to work and we need to.
 
This is the america that we all fear. No common sense.
Just blind hatred against one party or the other.
Americans are pretty much equal in that.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Apr 30 10:40AM -0400

On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 18:05:42 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net"
>shredded, mixed with chopped onions and shortening, and fried usually
>until they form a browned cake. — called also hash brown potatoes,
>hashed brown potatoes, hashed browns.
 
I don't care for hash browns... I prefer home fries.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Apr 30 09:22AM -0700

On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 9:40:28 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> >until they form a browned cake. — called also hash brown potatoes,
> >hashed brown potatoes, hashed browns.
 
> I don't care for hash browns... I prefer home fries.
 
I'll take either one. At least you and I know the difference between
the two.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Apr 30 12:57PM -0400

Sheldon Martin wrote:
> >until they form a browned cake. — called also hash brown potatoes,
> >hashed brown potatoes, hashed browns.
 
> I don't care for hash browns... I prefer home fries.
 
Same vegetable only presented differently.
Or are you worried about the onion part that
your wife won't you allow to have unless she's not there?
Lucretia Borgia <lucretiaborgia@fl.it>: Apr 30 11:35AM -0300


>I'm curious as to how the coronavirus is likened to
>climate change? And a child right's crisis?
>Sounds like a "know it all" uneducated teen comment.
 
Good thing that she speaks out, more people should!
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Apr 30 11:05AM -0400

On 2020-04-30 10:35 a.m., Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> climate change? And a child right's crisis?
>> Sounds like a "know it all" uneducated teen comment.
 
> Good thing that she speaks out, more people should!
 
They might be taken more seriously if they weren't such bloody
hypocrites, flying back and forth to conferences to tell other people
to reduce their carbon footprint. Our government was one of the worst
offenders at the time of Paris climate change talks. We sent 300
delegates. Ontario's premier went back and forth a couple times. They
waste money and energy on stuff like that and then expect the rest of us
to take it seriously.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Apr 30 09:19AM -0700

On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 10:04:48 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> delegates. Ontario's premier went back and forth a couple times. They
> waste money and energy on stuff like that and then expect the rest of us
> to take it seriously.
 
Nailed it, Dave.
lenona321@yahoo.com: Apr 30 09:52AM -0700

I have to say, I keep wondering when she's going to address an audience of her middle-class peers - teens, that is - and tell them they have to cut their first-world lifestyles by 50%. Permanently.
 
After all, it's not as though she lacks nerve.
 
 
Lenona.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Apr 30 12:55PM -0400

Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> >climate change? And a child right's crisis?
> >Sounds like a "know it all" uneducated teen comment.
 
> Good thing that she speaks out, more people should!
 
Trump speaks out with nonsense often too.
lenona321@yahoo.com: Apr 30 09:45AM -0700

>Probably because you were a young girl not facing the draft
for that war once you turned age 19.
 
 
I said, I'm a Gen Xer.
 
In other words, I wasn't even in the double digits when the war ended.
 
So there's a good chance that the parents of my male classmates made every effort to keep THEM unaware of the war, too.
 
Btw, while it's true that we don't have the draft right now, I suspect that if men really cared about Selective Service discrimination, they'd rise up and demand that that change, just as they did regarding the vote. (However, given how many people in their TWENTIES shouldn't be voting - or drinking or getting married - many people say we should have raised the draft age instead. Chances are the Pentagon would never have allowed that, of course.)
 
And I knew about Watergate because my mother made sure to have the TV on constantly, at that time. It's when I first learned what the word "resign" meant. I asked: "is he REALLY going to resign?" She said, "if he doesn't, people will be throwing bricks at their TV sets."
 
 
Lenona.
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Apr 30 11:24AM -0500

On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 08:32:42 -0400, Gary wrote:
 
> I'm curious as to how the coronavirus is likened to
> climate change? And a child right's crisis?
> Sounds like a "know it all" uneducated teen comment.
 
 
If we Less global warming means the virus would kill even more
people.
 
Somebody shoot that kid, eh? She's the virus.
 
-sw
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Apr 30 10:43AM -0400

On 2020-04-30 8:37 a.m., Gary wrote:
>> I should really take guitar lessons.
 
> Lessons aren't so necessary. You can teach yourself
> and become a good guitar player. I did.
 
Some people are better at learning an instrument on their own than
others. I have taken up enough activities and taken enough lessons that
I learned the value of lessons.
 
I had taken guitar lessons at a conservatory (forget which one).
Despite being really bad in music at school, I did well at my lessons. I
learned to read music. I later used that skill to teach myself piano
and recorder. I did take a few piano lesson, but just to help with
fingering positions. I later learned a lot of music theory on my own.
It seemed so much easier than any teacher ever made it look.
 
I had a nice arrangement for years before my jamming buddy moved out of
town. He would come over every weekend and we would jam. He was
naturally talented. Over the years I taught him how to read music and
some chord theory and I used the theory and the experience to learn to
play by year.
 
> try playing around a LOT with it. Every day, John.
> Buy yourself a book that shows the fingering for guitar
> chords first. Learn those well then move on.
 
One of the advantages of lessons is that they force you to learn things
you might not bother with. More important, they make you practice.
 
 
Buying an appropriate instrument is important. Most people don't want to
sink a lot of money into an instrument and can't really appreciate the
difference. A really cheap guitar is never going to sound good.
Intonation is likely to be off, and the action will suck. A good guitar
will by much easier to play. Personally, I think acoustic is the way to
go for a beginner. Electric guitars magnify errors. If someone insists
on electric, they should forget about using the amp until they learn to
play and attack with confidence.
 
At least with Strats copies there are some good ones out there. They
have decent actions and potential for adjustment. They have a sound
similar to the real Strats. My electric is a Strat. I also have a
Takamine concert guitar and a Martin flat top. My son's bass is
somewhere around the house.
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