Saturday, January 15, 2022

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 11 topics

Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 15 07:14AM -0500

On 1/14/2022 5:42 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> When we went to Italy a few times, we rented a villa and shopped at the
> local stores, same as the locals.  More interesting that way.
 
One interest of mine has been Alaska but not just for a quick week or
two tourist visit.
Would be good to spend an entire year somewhere there and experience the
different seasons, etc.
 
That state is so large, there are 3 completely different areas.
- Southeast
- Fairbanks area
- Extreme north - Barrow, AK
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jan 15 06:15AM -0800

On Saturday, January 15, 2022 at 7:14:01 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> - Southeast
> - Fairbanks area
> - Extreme north - Barrow, AK
 
The food prices would give you a heart attack.
 
<https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Fairbanks>
 
Cindy Hamilton
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 15 07:05AM -0500

itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:> But I> think it's a lost cause wishing
John would get a job. That's just not> in the cards.
 
Knowing John's situation...holding out for a job that never comes, this
is the rare time where I might advise someone to go ahead and file for
monthly SS payments at age 62 for a reduced amount. He turns 62 in a
month or two and can file right now.
 
He still has 7 more years before "full retirement." If he continues to
be mostly unemployed, he would be better off collecting payments now.
That will add up to a good amount in the next 7 years vs no money for 7
more years.
 
He paid cash for his house (and all the improvements) so he has no
mortgage or rent to pay. Only taxes and maintenance. And in a good area
of town, his property value should continue to rise.
 
I would say (what I might do myself in your case) is go ahead and
collect SS at age 62. You'll get less money per month but it's better
than no money for the next 7 years.
 
I would like to hear Ed's opinion on what I just said. He knows this
subject well.
 
One other thing I learned from an older neighbor -
If you take SS early, then get offered a good job later, they will allow
you to cancel your early retirement as long as you pay them back all of
the money they gave you. He did that.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jan 15 06:11AM -0800

On Saturday, January 15, 2022 at 7:05:03 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> If you take SS early, then get offered a good job later, they will allow
> you to cancel your early retirement as long as you pay them back all of
> the money they gave you. He did that.
 
When has John ever done anything that would make him better off?
It's always about satisfying the impulse of the moment.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Jan 15 06:14AM -0800

On Saturday, January 15, 2022 at 6:05:03 AM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
> be mostly unemployed, he would be better off collecting payments now.
> That will add up to a good amount in the next 7 years vs no money for 7
> more years.
 
"Full retirement" is bogus. Retirement is any time from 62-70. "Full
retirement" is just *suggested* retirement. He either needs a real job,
which he could easily get--especially making donuts--or Social Security
checks. No one is going to ever hire him as a nurse again. Otherwise
he most certainly should take Social Security as his first opportunity.
https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10147.pdf
 
> He paid cash for his house (and all the improvements) so he has no
> mortgage or rent to pay. Only taxes and maintenance. And in a good area
> of town, his property value should continue to rise.
 
It doesn't matter if it rises if he doesn't sell it.
> than no money for the next 7 years.
 
> I would like to hear Ed's opinion on what I just said. He knows this
> subject well.
 
I'm taking it the first January following the last year that I work, and plan to
retire in December of whatever year. I *could* retire 11 months from now,
but every year we work is extra money for travel and such.
> If you take SS early, then get offered a good job later, they will allow
> you to cancel your early retirement as long as you pay them back all of
> the money they gave you. He did that.
 
He will never "get offered a good job later." That is an almost 100%
certainty.
 
--Bryan
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 15 06:20AM -0500

On 1/14/2022 5:32 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
 
>> These days I would never consider buying them.
 
> I don't think the fish sticks have changed much. You've just become
> more selective.
 
Probably so. Like Jill, the only fish I had growing up were those
breaded and frozen fish sticks. They were ok.
 
I bought a box a few years ago for nostalgia to see how they tasted to
me now. They were fine but I haven't bought them since.
 
Most of my adult live (living right next to the ocean) I've only had
fresh caught that day salt water fish. Either caught by me or by friends
that love to fish and will save one or two for me.
 
Honestly, thinking back - I can only recall eating frozen *fin* fish
here was one time I bought a frozen salmon steak. It was good but never
bought more.
 
The other was a small pak of frozen tilapia once. I liked that fine too.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 15 06:33AM -0500

On 1/14/2022 5:35 PM, bruce bowser wrote:
 
> dsi1 wrote:
>> Back in the old days, fish sticks were a food that you could throw in the general direction of a kid's pie hole and they would shut the hell up long enough to stuff their faces. These days, we don't need fish sticks any more cause we got McDonald's.
 
> They're still big business.
 
LOL. The companies that sell "crap food" according to many here in RFC
are making a fortune and laughing all the way to the bank.
 
I remember liking those McD "fillet of fish" sandwiches. Isn't it tartar
sauce on them? Haven't had one in 30 years or so.
 
I always liked them but the rare times I went, hamburger products just
sounded better at the time.
 
And their fries. Always had to add fries.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jan 15 06:09AM -0800

On Saturday, January 15, 2022 at 6:32:26 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
 
> > They're still big business.
> LOL. The companies that sell "crap food" according to many here in RFC
> are making a fortune and laughing all the way to the bank.
 
Popular does not equal good. The "crap food" is loaded with salt,
sugar, and flavor enhancers. People can hardly help but enjoy it.
It's engineered to release dopamine in the brain, which makes people
come back for more, to repeat the experience.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Jan 15 02:35AM -0800

On Friday, January 14, 2022 at 4:15:29 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
 
> I rarely eat hot dogs, but when I do, mustard is an essential, a little
> relish will make it even better and onions will take them a little
> closer to perfection. I do not like ketchup on hotdogs .... or on burgers.
 
NEVER ask for relish on a hot dog in Chicago. What you would get
is this horrible, bright green sweet pickle relish that looks like it
might cause genetic mutations.
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/488288784579213073/
 
--Bryan
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 15 05:45AM -0500

US Janet wrote:
> I use both on my dogs, ketchup and mustard. The no ketchup on dogs
> must be a new thing in the last couple of decades. ;)
 
Hot dogs are so very versatile and a great snack to make in between
commercials during any tv show or sports game. I always keep some in
the freezer.
 
Just the other day a had a couple of the cheap hotdogs on bread.
Cheap meaning $1 for an 8-pak. I just put some Nathan's spicy mustard
and some ketchup on them. Delicious to me just like that. A small pile
of salty chips would have been a nice side.
 
I also sometimes add many variations of other ingredients too. Chopped
onion, relish, cheese, chili....the sky is the limit.
 
OTOH, whenever I have all-beef dogs, I just heat them up (microwave) and
put on a fresh bun or slice of white bread. No condiments at all - the
all beef flavor is a stand alone good taste to me.
 
Oscar Meyer all beef is my favorite. Very fatty and tasty.
 
I also love those sausage dogs (like Johnsonville) with or without
cheese in the filling. No condiments for those either.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 15 05:56AM -0500

On 1/14/2022 5:15 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
 
> I rarely eat hot dogs, but when I do, mustard is an essential, a little
> relish will make it even better and onions will take them a little
> closer to perfection.
 
I agree with all that.
 
> I do not like ketchup on hotdogs .... or on burgers.
 
I don't agree. I like it on hot dogs and burgers too.
My main use for ketchup is the cheap salad dressing:
- 2/3 mayo
- 1/3 ketchup
 
The other thing is for meatloaf topping *before cooking*
Use plain or mixed with a little worcestershire sauce
Kelly O'Hara <kelly6205@email.invalid>: Jan 15 01:48PM


>I recently became aware of the Fluff Screamer:
 
Without following the link, sounds like a Fluff Screamer is taking us
into John Kuthe territory.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jan 15 09:03AM -0500

On 2022-01-15 5:56 a.m., Gary wrote:
>  - 1/3 ketchup
 
> The other thing is for meatloaf topping *before cooking*
> Use plain or mixed with a little worcestershire sauce
 
Meatloaf is one of the few things on which I use ketchup. I use some on
the mix, smear it in the baking pan and on top of the loaf when it goes
into the oven and as a condiment with the cooked meatloaf. It is also
good with macaroni and cheese and on a toasted western.
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: Jan 15 07:08AM -0700

On 2022-01-15 7:03 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> the mix, smear it in the baking pan and on top of the loaf when it goes
> into the oven and as a condiment with the cooked meatloaf. It is also
> good with macaroni and cheese and on a toasted western.
 
Mix some with a little lemon juice and Worcester Sauce and it's good for
dipping shrimp.
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jan 15 03:14AM -0800

On Friday, January 14, 2022 at 11:44:04 PM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> I would expect you to use S&B mix if you made curry, rather than using
> individual spices and other ingredients.
 
> CindyHamilton
 
Indeed I do. I make Japan, local style, or Thai style curry, not Indian curry.
 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/cpn29zhVnWR2Doy4A
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jan 15 06:02AM -0800

On Saturday, January 15, 2022 at 6:14:21 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
 
> > CindyHamilton
> Indeed I do. I make Japan, local style, or Thai style curry, not Indian curry.
 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/cpn29zhVnWR2Doy4A
 
Gravy much?
 
When I get a little time, I want to make this:
 
<https://simpleindianrecipes.com/poriyal.aspx>
 
Perhaps not that recipe. I'll cruise around the web and find one that
I like best.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Jan 15 05:27AM -0800

I pitted some cherries, quartered them, and added a little cherry liqueur and sugar. I microwaved them just enough to get the sugar to dissolve. I cut up the bacon as pictured, resulting in well over a hundred little bits of bacon, and fried them until crispy. Then I added them to the green beans and potatoes, and I cooked them on pressure for 20 minutes, slow release for 10, then quick release. I got the bacon grease super hot before putting in the pork chops, which were seasoned only with salt.
 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/15522299@N08/albums/72177720295960017
 
My wife loved the pork chops with the cherry sauce. Me? It was OK, but I'd rather have the cherry sauce on ice cream, which is what she had for dessert.
I bet it would be fantastic with ALDI's Vanilla Chocolate Almond.
https://www.aldi.us/en/products/seasonal-products/seasonal-detail/ps/p/specially-selected-winter-seasonal-ice-cream-assor/
 
--Bryan
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 15 07:22AM -0500


> I love my flop flops but only wear them in the summer.
 
>> I always wear white athletic socks at home.
 
> With black dress shoes and shorts?
 
LOL! That is one definite fashion failure there.
Beach people aren't allowed to do that. ;)
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Jan 15 05:06AM -0800

On Friday, January 14, 2022 at 7:00:22 PM UTC-6, Michael Trew wrote:
> wouldn't wear them in public, but they are nice for a run down to the
> basement freezer without lacing up my shoes... they live behind the
> basement door.
 
House slippers are way more comfortable. My new ones should
be arriving today, and these trusty old friends will be relegated to
get out of the tent in the middle of the night to pee slippers.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/15522299@N08/51821906678/in/dateposted-public/
 
--Bryan
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 15 07:42AM -0500

On 1/14/2022 6:18 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> I am making green beans and potatoes in the pressure cooker with
> bacon.
 
I wouldn't bother. ;)
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 15 08:02AM -0500

On 1/14/2022 8:17 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
 
>> https://postimg.cc/RNkXHB8g
 
> That looks _really_ good... I'll take a plate with a double serving of
> those green beans!!
 
And I would have put some gravy on the green beans too. That's what I
always do with a similar dish. :)
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 15 07:49AM -0500

Michael Trew wrote:
> It's a good thing > that pencils are made with graphite now, and not made with lead.
 
Pencils were never made with lead.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 15 06:04AM -0500

>> like they are really over stepping their authority.
 
> Another lie from Garish or the donut shop manager was pulling his
> leg. ATF agents don't monitor sugar usage at donut shops.
 
They sure do in Virginia. Why would you deny that? Virginia (the western
part at least) is commonly known for moonshine. NASCAR racing got it's
start from moonshine runners with their souped up cars used to outrun
the "revenuers"
GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Jan 15 03:21AM -0800

On Saturday, January 15, 2022 at 5:04:20 AM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
> part at least) is commonly known for moonshine. NASCAR racing got it's
> start from moonshine runners with their souped up cars used to outrun
> the "revenuers"
 
 
Robert Mitchum in "Thunder Road"...
 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunder_Road_(1958_film)
 
--
GM
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Jan 15 03:18AM -0800

> bill! But wait! We SHARE costs! So for EACH of us it's only a
> fraction of that $200! Me too! I can't afford this house ALL BY
> MYSELF and I don't HAVE TO!!
 
You can't afford your house ALL BY YOURSELF, but you HAVE TO,
because students don't want to live with a nasty old pervert who
posts about his beatoff sessions on a freakin' cooking newsgroup.
 
No one to SHARE the cost of that electric bill, and it'll be a big one
next month, after a January where some nights dipped into single
digits. That electric meter just keeps spinning away, as your paltry
savings are depleted.
 
--Bryan
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