Wednesday, January 12, 2022

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 11 topics

Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 12 05:58AM -0500

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> Anyway, do you stand around in the cold, rain, heat, whatever bagging
> your groceries while standing net to your car? Just bag your own groceries
> in the store. What a maroon.
 
In Harris Teeter (my normal store), they keep the cart and bag items as
they ring them up. (You can't help them bag).
 
Maybe I'm lucky as I only live one mile away. Even with cold food
purchased on hot days...a quick drive home and put them away properly.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jan 12 02:57AM -0800

On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 10:29:00 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
 
> > Maybe Ed and pop music aren't a match made in heaven.
 
> IMO, very little in the past 20 years is my style. 40s to 80's was
> pretty good and then started to decline. Heavy metal and rap are not music.
 
OTOH, when they set out to do a ballad, heavy metal bands can be
excellent at channeling that energy into it.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jan 12 02:54AM -0800


> > We're Yankees. We don't care that much about biscuits.
 
> > Cindy Hamilton
 
> Pity.
 
Maybe. They've always struck me as enjoyable, but too time-
consuming. My situation isn't universal, but my grandmother didn't
get the cooking gene. Her sister would make delicious biscuits, but
only on weekends, since she worked at the post office. We rarely
visited my great-aunt at breakfast time. I never developed a biscuit
habit.
 
I'd rather have potatoes than biscuits, but toast is more practical.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 12 04:50AM -0500

On 1/11/2022 11:58 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> that?"
 
> Not that I can recall. I've seen countless menus that say "with au jus", though.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
I do believe that a proper menu would (for example) would say:
 
"Pork au jus"
 
and not
 
"Pork with au jus"
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jan 12 09:06PM +1100


>"Pork au jus"
 
> and not
 
>"Pork with au jus"
 
That would make more sense.
 
--
This is NOT a post by Dave Smith
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jan 12 02:26AM -0800

On Wednesday, January 12, 2022 at 12:19:43 AM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
> that; the meat flavored veggies are my favorite part. Meat is OK, but I
> put at least twice the amount of celery, carrots, potatoes, etc. into a
> pot roast than the actual meat; yum!
 
My husband doesn't like cooked carrots, so apart from the mirepoix
at the beginning, I don't add carrots. He likes his served over noodles,
so I don't add potatoes. A lot of celery can impart a bitter or overly
anise-like flavor, so I don't add extra celery.
 
In any event, I don't like mushy vegetables, so it's no hardship to
leave them out. Sometimes I add tender-crisp green beans to my bowl
of stew. They provide a bright, fresh pop to contrast with the heavy
flavor of the meat. We always have a salad to start the meal.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 12 05:28AM -0500

On 1/11/2022 12:10 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> 20 years or so. It's not reflected here, of course, because everybody
>> comes to RFC with a lifetime of ingrained habits.
 
> It's the use of French more than the mix itself.
 
People that don't know proper French should maybe not try to use it just
to make their food sound more fancy and therefor more expensive.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jan 12 02:29AM -0800

On Wednesday, January 12, 2022 at 12:26:07 AM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
> Perhaps my age is a factor in that... I might offend some by saying
> this, but all too many of the 65+ crowd (in general) are too stubborn to
> take advice or learn; "their way is the best".
 
I'm not quite 65 yet, but I've learned a ton of technique in the last 20 years.
Not here, for the most part, but from the Cooks' Illustrated empire
and from various videos.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 12 05:45AM -0500

On 1/11/2022 12:42 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
 
> dsi wrote:
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/bG9qiKaWahFUsGed6
 
> So long as you use google I'll never see your photos.
 
You should be able to see his posts.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jan 12 02:43AM -0800

On Wednesday, January 12, 2022 at 1:03:52 AM UTC-5, GM wrote:
> > That and potential earth quakes. Count me out.
> Plus, they are dimocrat blue states, renders them absolutely unlivable...
 
> Give me a nice red GOP Mountain State instead...
 
In which unlivable state do you currently reside? Why haven't you moved
somewhere that will afford you a suitable echo chamber for your views?
 
Cindy Hamilton
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 12 05:23AM -0500

On 1/11/2022 12:08 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> in order for that person to legitimately condemn it? Are you indifferent
>> to (for example) rape, as long as it doesn't happen to you?
 
> It's how rednecks think. "If I don't have covid, covid's a hoax."
 
sigh No doubt some do think that way but I don't.
 
The medical profession is doing all they can with this. They are
learning more as they go.
 
The problem I see is with our politician leaders that take the latest
info and tell people they can stop doing this now. Like (the most recent
advice)...if you have the booster, you don't need a mask anymore.
 
Even more recently (get this)... If you are tested positive but are
asymptomatic, it's ok to go to work or out in public.
 
With all this lunacy, this virus is just carrying on and laughing at all
the stupid humans.
 
I watched an old college football game (early this am). It was a taped
game from right after Thanksgiving. North Carolina vs North Carolina State.
 
It was a sell out game. 58,000 people in the bleachers. They often would
show the crowd in between plays. I payed attention to that and I didn't
see one person wearing a mask. Not even one.
 
This virus will never go away
In the US of A
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 12 05:33AM -0500

On 1/11/2022 12:13 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
 
> Right wingers don't do facts anymore. Societies are divided between
> people who believe in science and facts and people who believe in
> shock jock fairytales.
 
Typical RFC argument about black vs white only.
Many shades of gray happening here.
No one should try to speculate on why someone else might take a
different path.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 12 04:32AM -0500

On 1/11/2022 9:30 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> If I remember correctly, my mother's dishware is Corelle, which
> is fine in the microwave.
 
That's what I always use. Works well.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 12 04:51AM -0500

bruce bowser wrote:
> Also, the microwave oven. Seal something in tupper ware, then microwave it.
 
As a general rule, that's not a good thing to do.
I used to do that years ago then learned a better way.
 
I always use tupperware (and other plastic containers with lids) to
store and refrigerate or freeze food. Works well.
 
You can reheat in the tupperware too but loosen the lid or it will pop
off. If you microwave it too long, the bottom of the tupperware bowl can
and will melt slightly. It's happened to me.
 
Best to reheat in a corelle bowl with a small corelle plate sitting on
top. It will hold in the steam and heat but will release the excess air
pressure.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 12 04:39AM -0500

On 1/11/2022 8:01 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article <srjo6o$l2a$1@dont-email.me>, g.majors@att.net says...
 
>> From what I've seen, most all youtube videos are worthless.
 
> Still on dial-up?
 
No. My dial-up ended a little over a year ago. High speed wifi now.
 
 
 
> ferrets. OK, now you made me look. Don't miss it :-)
 
> Freakin' Ferrets | Funny Pet Video Compilation
 
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBoz2mitPiY>
 
I just watched it. Very amusing. Thanks for posting it. I do miss the
"little ones" here. It's been almost 3 years now.
Thomas <canope234@gmail.com>: Jan 12 01:25AM -0800

On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 10:57:00 PM UTC-5, US Janet wrote:
> water to clean. All you need do is wipe it down with dry paper
> towel then a damp cloth and dry.
> Janet US
Thanks Janet and all. The shortening in the items I did not think about.
I was using silicone for pizza dough when I began and my wife likes the wood one as a beginner baker.
The instruction card does say to oil often but your comment is spot on.
Thomas Joseph <jazeev1234@gmail.com>: Jan 12 12:12AM -0800

dsi1 wrote:
 
> Flying is indeed some scary shit. OTOH, being brave instead of scared has its rewards. Brave and bold are good things. It is especially rewarding when you live on a small rock in the middle of the Pacific ocean.
 
Hah hah. Yes I am afraid of flying. But I am not as afraid of it as I claim. I am aware that I use fear of flying as an excuse to not have to be anywhere in a hurry. So I probably exaggerate my fear. Either way I don't like it up there. At least in a car you can yell, "Watch out!", or maybe reach over and grab the wheel. What you gonna do in an airplane, try to steer it down by everyone moving to one side of the plane then the other in rapid succession? Lots of humor in flying for me. Lots of humor.
Thomas Joseph <jazeev1234@gmail.com>: Jan 12 12:18AM -0800


> Did you just drop in to discuss how lived a life which led you to wind
> up fairly poor at age 74?
 
> Jill
 
 
I know what her comments meant and told her I appreciate it. I also appreciate Jebus's posts. So what's YOUR point? I don't hang here as regularly as you but have been here in the past and have always had you pegged as a rather hateful person. Why I don't know. Obviously you read what you want into other people's words. Not once have I complained about my life. Quite the opposite. I am content with what I've got. I am not crying for more. You see it that way because that's the way you'd probably be in my position, one I carved out for myself as you say. And I don't see myself as poor either. Lastly, when I speak of "some people", I'm talking about some people I know who are rabidly anti welfare and other programs for the "needy" but who get welfare of some form in their own lives. I have detected in some people who have saddled themselves with the need for owning more things a certain resentment for those who get by on the cheap. "Man, $800 a month, I sure could use that", they say. I've had them tell me that, people I know and like. But they would never go for it all the way because it would mean giving up other stuff they see as more important, which is their business. Anyway, get off my back and stop putting words in my mouth, please.
Thomas Joseph <jazeev1234@gmail.com>: Jan 12 12:22AM -0800

On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 9:02:40 PM UTC-5, Mike Duffy wrote:
 
> > Maybe that's possible,
> There is a trail, but no real road nor rail.
 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dari%C3%A9n_Gap
 
 
Couldn't access the site, the 'security' forces at google posted a "Do not enter" sign when I clicked on the link. No big deal, I know what you mean. I didn't think there was a road all the way. But I don't know for sure, so won't make any judgments. I guess the Panama Canal gets in the way. I know a guy who hiked all the way to the tip of Argentina, or said he did - and I have no reason to disbelieve him. I would never do it though. I don't mind a good day hike, but I'm not into sleeping with spiders and snakes.
Thomas Joseph <jazeev1234@gmail.com>: Jan 12 12:23AM -0800

Dave Smith wrote:
 
> I didn't know this. Not that I'll end up there any time soon.
 
 
 
Me either. I like looking at maps though.
Thomas Joseph <jazeev1234@gmail.com>: Jan 12 12:35AM -0800

Michael Trew wrote:
 
> right time, and buy the right things, you can get very nice clothes for
> dirt cheap. I have lots of nice button up shirts and sharp looking
> slacks that I only paid between $0.50 and $2 for.
 
 
Oh I've been doing it all my life. I don't like shopping, period - even in thrift stores. I used to do what you say when I lived in L.A. and PA. They had better thrift stores than around here. But you can get lucky here too. And you have to get lucky. Well, not so much lucky as consistent. You have to make a habit of going once every so many weeks or once a month without feeling the need for some exact thing right now. It seems the good stuff comes to us when we least need it. "I'll get it later" results in never seeing it again. Gotta snatch it up while you can. When I was a kid it wasn't thrift stores so much, it was a whole bunch of stores in Allentown Pa that were drug stores and the like and they'd be selling used and surplus stuff of in the corner of the store. They were not even called used stores. It was just so easy and I didn't know it. It is true though. The best quality stuff I have ever been able to afford always came from thrift stores. I got several cashmere scarves for $2 a few years back. The thrift stores closed when the virus hit and some went out of business. The older I get the less I care how I look. I stay neat, as clean as possible, but image is low priority for me. It gets cold here, but I have not worn long pants in years. I wear shorts in the summer. In the winter I wear shorts with long johns under them. It's really comfortable. Plus, shorts are always easier to find, and easier to fit, than long pants. I go with low maintenance - the buzz cut twice a year and so forth. I was sick of the job of life even before I took it on. Glad to be out of the work force but have found no passionate hobbies to take its place. Sometimes I feel that I am chained to my freedom. I always felt that anyone who works is wearing chains. I felt that way. So lots of people work hard to make more money so they won't have to work anymore. But then when they make more money, all they do is buy themselves a more expensive set of chains.
Thomas Joseph <jazeev1234@gmail.com>: Jan 12 12:41AM -0800

On Wednesday, January 12, 2022 at 1:06:18 AM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
 
> I'm pretty sure I'd be on that small rock for the rest of my life if I
> was born there.
 
 
That's the way I feel about living at home. I'm talking about my grandparents home when I was a kid. I have heard people demean others who live at the home of their parents. I'm sure we'd all do it - most of us anyway - if we didn't have to deal with the parents and whatever other strings come with the deal. I'll take a small room in a big house any day, especially with a big refrigerator with a big open door policy. In that same way I know that a lot of people who sneer at welfare would take it if it came under another name - like cheating at taxes or whatever. I would probably never leave that rock either. I am the sort who would definitely the earth is flat had I not been told otherwise in school.
Thomas Joseph <jazeev1234@gmail.com>: Jan 12 12:48AM -0800

Thomas Joseph wrote:
Michael Trew wrote:

> > dirt cheap. I have lots of nice button up shirts and sharp looking
> > slacks that I only paid between $0.50 and $2 for.
 
 
> Oh I've been doing it all my life. I don't like shopping, period - even in thrift stores.
 
Whoops, forgot to mention when I got on the old Allentown PA mom and pop shops that sold used clothes and military surplus stuff, khakis and the like. I did not shop at them to save money. I didn't even know what money was at that time, not really. I bought clothes at the used stores because I preferred the feel of softer worn down clothing, especially jeans back then. Same with a car. One can say, "Ewww, it's old", and pass it up. But if it's old and it still runs it has to be good. Same with used clothes. Not always but lots of the time. Now when I shop the thrift stores it's for both reasons, the beaten in clothes and the price.
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Jan 12 01:25AM -0600

On Sat, 08 Jan 2022 07:04:02 -0500, Sheldon Martin wrote:
 
 
> The markets here put those yellow sale labels on when it's the sell-by
> date... nothing wrong with it but they are not permited to sell meat
> past its sell-by date.
 
You're so full of shit your eyes are brown.
 
This is how Randalls/Safeway/Tom Thumb/Vons labels their weekly meat
sales, you imbecile. And stores decide their own sell-by dates, if
it they put ANY sell by dates at all on items. And they can sell it
anytime they want - even 1 year after its sell-by date.
 
You just keep getting dumber and more ridiculous as you get older.
 
-sw
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Jan 12 01:31AM -0600

On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 02:10:05 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
 
> Not really. It looked like it was cut from the wrong end of the short loin.
> Too much going on in the "strip steak" portion. Too many different muscles.
> That's probably why it didn't sell at full price.
 
Now you're being ridiculous, too. There are only two muscles there,
the longissimus and the psoas major. The only other "wrong end" of
the short loin gives us T-Bones rather than porterhouse steals.
 
You're falling all over yourself again.
 
-sw
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