Sunday, March 20, 2016

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 12 topics

sf <sf@geemail.com>: Mar 20 12:12PM -0700

On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 09:05:01 -0400, Dave Smith
> available in the freezer section of most grocery stores.
 
> I have sworn off cooking duck. Only one time has it not been a failure.
> It has been relegated to being a restaurant meal.
 
So it's only found frozen back east too? Too bad. I used to make it
years ago, but I don't remember needing to thaw it first. What I will
do, if and when I buy a frozen duck, is take it apart first, and then
I'll confit the legs and saute the breast to rare. I have a kumquat
sauce sitting in the freezer that I want to serve with it.
 
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sf
sf <sf@geemail.com>: Mar 20 12:26PM -0700


> This is a domestically raised duck so not lean and no wild game taste
> to cover up.
 
> I can always use new ideas!
 
I suppose you've served it in steamed buns with hoisin and thinly
sliced scallions, so how about a variation with cucumber and
cantaloupe, wrapped in a Mandarin "pancake"?
http://thewoksoflife.com/2015/11/easy-peking-duck-mandarin-pancakes/
 
Or duck tacos? I'd go easier on the chipotle, a little goes a long
way.
http://www.closetcooking.com/2011/07/duck-tacos-with-chipotle-cherry-salsa.html
 
There's always soup, but I imagine you've done that to death.
 
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sf
Janet B <nospam@cableone.net>: Mar 20 12:23PM -0600

On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 12:08:43 -0600, Janet B <nospam@cableone.net>
wrote:
 
 
>>> nb
 
>>You can like what you like and that is fine. I am not and never was
>>talking about croquettes.
 
 
You said "
Another is a very southern sort of thing where you mash then add a
little onion and an egg then make patties fried up to lightly crispy
(often done in a light batter treatment).
 
Carol"
 
That is croquette methodology whether you like it or not. The shape
doesn't matter. It's the fancy foreign word that bothers you and the
fact that you said it was a southern thing. Then you said it wasn't
common in other parts of the USA.
"There is little cooked in the USA that isnt cooked elsewhere as well.
The definition here it is not really the same croquette and it's not
that common in other parts of the USA but may be common in Poland, UK,
and other such places."
Then you said that although a southern thing it was possible it wasn't
known in Tennessee.
How far are you going to walk this back?
The only point here is that what you do with mashed potatoes is known
elsewhere and is not strictly southern.
Janet US
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Mar 20 03:20PM -0400

On 2016-03-20 10:46 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> mashed potatoes (so did my mother, so have I). My German grandmother
> made what you'd call latkes - made from shredded potatoes and crispy.
> Both, IMHO, are called potato pancakes. :)
 
 
One of the big differences between the two is that latkes are usually
really good. When I was working we went on a number of training
sessions and one place in Orillia was a favourite because the food was
so good. A lot of their meals came with potato croquettes, and they
were delicious.
"cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net>: Mar 20 02:23PM -0500

notbob wrote in rec.food.cooking:
 
 
> Oh. That part where you posted, "Janet, those are croquettes.",
> kinda threw me. Sorry.
 
> nb
 
Sorry but this has gotten to be an idiotic discussion. Janet took the
use of left over mashed potatoes and assumed it was a croquette and
took off from there.
 
She's now even gone so far as to make insulting bovine comments but the
item I posted is a simple sort of thing. It is not a croquette nor did
i ever say it was. It's simply something she is not familiar with so
took an assumed relation to something else.
 
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Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Mar 20 03:23PM -0400

On 2016-03-20 12:13 PM, Janet B wrote:
 
>> William
> Blasphemy. If you have had a brat that was like a hot dog, you need
> to find a different brat.
 
 
I thought they were made with pork, beef and veal.
notbob <notbob@nothome.com>: Mar 20 06:33PM

Do I gotta drag out my orbital stand mixer or is there a manual way to
cream butter/sugar?
 
IOW, how did chefs cream butter into sugar b4 electricity?
 
nb
dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com>: Mar 20 11:52AM -0700

On Sunday, March 20, 2016 at 8:33:22 AM UTC-10, notbob wrote:
> cream butter/sugar?
 
> IOW, how did chefs cream butter into sugar b4 electricity?
 
> nb
 
They used a whisk. A whisk is indispensable for me. I don't need no stinkin' electric mixer.
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Mar 20 12:00PM -0700

On Sunday, March 20, 2016 at 12:33:22 PM UTC-6, notbob wrote:
> cream butter/sugar?
 
> IOW, how did chefs cream butter into sugar b4 electricity?
 
> nb
 
A lotta hard damn work, that's how! Bakers used to knead dough by hand too! That's why old bakers had forearms like Popeye!! When I used to make donuts by hand back in the 1980's, I had hyperdeveloped "donut cutting muscles" in my right forearm!!
 
John Kuthe...
Helpful person <rrllff@yahoo.com>: Mar 20 11:40AM -0700

On Sunday, March 20, 2016 at 8:44:31 AM UTC-4, Nancy Young wrote:
> but I don't know what people do with it.
 
> Ideas?
 
> nancy
 
Pork belly is used by the Chinese in a dish generically known as twice cooked pork. Quite delicious although very fatty. It should be available at a Chinese grocers.
 
http://www.richardfisher.com
dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com>: Mar 20 11:58AM -0700

On Sunday, March 20, 2016 at 2:44:31 AM UTC-10, Nancy Young wrote:
> but I don't know what people do with it.
 
> Ideas?
 
> nancy
 
I'd make shoyu pork with it. Usually, I'll make shoyu pork with pork butt because it's half the price of pork belly. Pork belly, however, is choice stuff.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ7Ohmr5BD0
Sqwertz <swertz@cluemail.compost>: Mar 20 01:40PM -0500

On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 10:13:58 -0600, Janet B wrote:
 
> Blasphemy. If you have had a brat that was like a hot dog, you need
> to find a different brat.
> Janet US
 
Several German style bratwurst (usually white, made with pork and
veal) are more like hot dogs than the American course-ground
snausages. These were the only style I knew as bratwurst growing up
in Pennsylvania. Hard to find in many other parts of the country.
When I moved to California I was like... that ain't bratwurst!
 
https://www.google.com/search?q=white+bratwurst&source=lnms&tbm=isch
 
-sw
Sqwertz <swertz@cluemail.compost>: Mar 20 01:46PM -0500

On Sat, 19 Mar 2016 19:53:32 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
 
>> either if the servings were reasonable. Fish-n-chips would be my top
>> choice.
 
> I picked up an order of fish & chips this evening. :)
 
F&C are something I insist on eating in the restaurant, fresh out of
the fryer. They should never be closed up in a container.
 
That actually sounds pretty good right now...
 
-sw
Jeßus <j@j.invalid>: Mar 21 05:29AM +1100


>Funny how meat eaters feel threatened by vegetarians and vegans.
>That's how people tend to react to someone who's morally superior to
>them :)
 
Don't you eat fish?
Bruce <Bruce@Bruce.invalid>: Mar 21 05:34AM +1100

>>That's how people tend to react to someone who's morally superior to
>>them :)
 
>Don't you eat fish?
 
Yes. I'm not morally superior :)
 
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Bruce
Jeßus <j@j.invalid>: Mar 21 05:43AM +1100

>>>them :)
 
>>Don't you eat fish?
 
>Yes. I'm not morally superior :)
 
Good. Just checking... <G>
 
Which reminds me that I still have some salmon in the freezer - not
something I normally do (freeze fish) but had a ton of it at the time.
Maybe I could put it in the smoker and then make a spread similar to
deviled ham with it...
rosie <RMi1013934@aol.com>: Mar 20 11:33AM -0700

On Saturday, March 19, 2016 at 10:10:44 AM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
> of us care about that. A lot of us probably are upset to see the
> racist drivel though.
 
> --
 
I have too Carol, I find it disgusting.
Bruce <Bruce@Bruce.invalid>: Mar 21 05:28AM +1100

On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 11:12:10 -0700 (PDT), MisterDiddyWahDiddy
 
>> They should at least call it "vegan cheese", although I don't think
>> there will be much confusion, really.
 
>They shouldn't use the word, CHEESE, at all.
 
1 a food consisting of the coagulated, compressed, and usually ripened
curd of milk separated from the whey b : an often cylindrical cake of
this food
 
2 something resembling cheese in shape or consistency
 
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cheese
 
In other words: they can call it cheese.
 
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Bruce
Jeßus <j@j.invalid>: Mar 21 05:32AM +1100

On Sat, 19 Mar 2016 20:06:14 -0700, "Julie Bove"
 
>Well since I can't eat any dairy, I have tried some of them. Some are
>better than others. I will look for the nacho cheese recipe and post it if
>I can find it.
 
Nachos. Now there's something I haven't had in a VERY long time.
I feel like going to a Mexican restaurant now.
Janet B <nospam@cableone.net>: Mar 20 12:28PM -0600

On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 14:21:05 -0400, Nancy Young
>> (I'm not affiliated in any way with BookBub)
 
>Jill doesn't have one, but I do. Thanks for the info.
 
>nancy
Readers need to support each other's habit ;)
Janet US
rosie <RMi1013934@aol.com>: Mar 20 11:30AM -0700

On Sunday, March 20, 2016 at 1:28:21 PM UTC-5, Janet B wrote:
 
> >nancy
> Readers need to support each other's habit ;)
> Janet US
 
It is great, I have gotten many books on Book Bub.
Bruce <Bruce@Bruce.invalid>: Mar 21 05:23AM +1100

>>> maturing for a few days.
 
>> I've just finished kneading a malty dark rye loaf.
 
>Shurrup! I'm still struggling with xmas avoirdupois:-)
 
Can you still call it that in late March?
 
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Bruce
Bruce <Bruce@Bruce.invalid>: Mar 21 05:24AM +1100

>caution with the kill file until I can domain scrub them out. Like
>that rash pretending to be Sheldon claiming he was gay or the SW
>auto-post crap.
 
Sheldon't not gay???
 
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Bruce
Bruce <Bruce@Bruce.invalid>: Mar 21 05:26AM +1100

On Sat, 19 Mar 2016 17:06:56 -0700 (PDT), MisterDiddyWahDiddy
 
>> But I hope you try this and enjoy it
 
>I'd like to shove a funnel down your throat and force feed you goose liver
>pate.
 
"I eat dead animals and I can't stand it if you don't."
 
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Bruce
anomaly <not@he.re>: Mar 20 12:24PM -0600

On 3/20/2016 12:09 PM, MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
> Every poll out there says that Sanders beats Trump by a far greater margin
> than does Clinton,
 
Nope.
 
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/252825-poll-trump-beats-hillary-head-to-head
 
Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump leads Democrat Hillary
Clinton head-to-head, according to a new poll released Friday.
 
The poll by SurveyUSA finds that matched up directly, Trump garners 45
percent to Clinton's 40 percent.
 
In other head-to-head matchups, Trump beats out Sen. Bernie Sanders
(I-Vt.) by 44 percent to 40 percent; Vice President Joe Biden by 44
percent to 42 percent; and former Vice President Al Gore by 44 percent
to 41 percent.
 
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/08/poll-trump-beats-hillary-in-general-election-match-up/
 
A December poll from Fox showed Hillary ahead of Trump by 11 points.
This latest poll, however, has Trump beating Clinton by 3 points, 47-44
percent.
 
 
> and the GOP is stuck with Trump.
 
Nope.
 
The convention has not been held and Trump lacks the 1st ballot delegate
total.
 
You are grossly ill-informed, as always.
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