Wednesday, March 23, 2016

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 7 topics

Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.net>: Mar 23 04:07PM -0400

On 3/23/2016 2:40 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
 
>> Even better than immoral humans?
 
> Typos kill me often. I intended to type "mortal humans". Amazing often how screwing up one character can change the meaning so much!
 
> John Kuthe...
 
Typos make it interesting and add humor though.
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Mar 23 01:24PM -0700

On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 2:07:17 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
 
> > Typos kill me often. I intended to type "mortal humans". Amazing often how screwing up one character can change the meaning so much!
 
> > John Kuthe...
 
> Typos make it interesting and add humor though.
 
Yeah, as badly as I type, I actually DO catch a lot of my typos and correct them before posting. And many times they are weirdly Freudian typos!
 
John Kuthe...
MisterDiddyWahDiddy <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Mar 23 02:25PM -0700

On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 2:15:15 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
 
> > > John Kuthe...
 
> > --Bryan
 
> Evil. You are a shame, Bryan. How about you print out all your hateful posts here and show them to your wife, son and psychiatrist!!! I'll bet things would change for you very rapidly!
 
From the few times that Betsy saw you and Sue interact, she thought that
you seemed bullying and psychologically abusing. Of course, that was
right around the time of Benny the Buttplug, so you were understandably frustrated. Oh, and it is quite normal to be hateful to a person whom
one hates.
 
--Bryan
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Mar 23 03:30PM -0700

On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 3:26:03 PM UTC-6, MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
> one hates.
 
> > John Kuthe...
 
> --Bryan
 
There you go again!! Confabulating! I know you can't help it, but jees! Get some psychiatric help, please!! Your mind is "going" as they say!
 
Can yuou even read through the symptoms of Narcissistic Personalirty Disorder without feeling like it's exactly about YOU?
 
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/basics/symptoms/con-20025568
 
Conceitful, boastful and pretentious? BINGO!!! Breyan in a nutshell.
 
John Kuthe...
Jeßus <j@j.invalid>: Mar 24 09:36AM +1100

On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 15:30:12 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
 
>Can yuou even read through the symptoms of Narcissistic Personalirty Disorder without feeling like it's exactly about YOU?
 
>http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/basics/symptoms/con-20025568
 
>Conceitful, boastful and pretentious? BINGO!!! Breyan in a nutshell.
 
Why don't you two get together and have it out once and for all,
instead of these endless limp-wristed exchanges here on RFC?
What a pair of fairies you are.
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Mar 23 03:41PM -0700

On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 4:36:12 PM UTC-6, Jeßus wrote:
 
> Why don't you two get together and have it out once and for all,
> instead of these endless limp-wristed exchanges here on RFC?
> What a pair of fairies you are.
 
One of us has gotten some very good pharmacological help for his mental health disorder: me. 100mg Seroquel HS (every night before bed) is working very well to keep my untowards effects at bay from my Bipolar Disorder. One has not. As I've said and you can read about it too, there is no pharmacological agents recommended for NPD (Narcissistic Personality Disorder). It's far to insidious for a simple drug to have any positive effect.
 
John Kuthe...
Jeßus <j@j.invalid>: Mar 24 09:47AM +1100

On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 15:41:47 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>> instead of these endless limp-wristed exchanges here on RFC?
>> What a pair of fairies you are.
 
>One of us has gotten some very good pharmacological help for his mental health disorder: me. 100mg Seroquel HS (every night before bed) is working very well to keep my untowards effects at bay from my Bipolar Disorder. One has not. As I've said and you can read about it too, there is no pharmacological agents recommended for NPD (Narcissistic Personality Disorder). It's far to insidious for a simple drug to have any positive effect.
 
All the more reason to duke it out <G>.
Get one of your wimmen to take pics of the big event, then post them
here for our edification. Sounds like a good plan, yes?
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Mar 23 03:53PM -0700

On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 4:47:13 PM UTC-6, Jeßus wrote:
 
> All the more reason to duke it out <G>.
> Get one of your wimmen to take pics of the big event, then post them
> here for our edification. Sounds like a good plan, yes?
 
Nah, "duking it out" as you say settles nothing. It is not the way civilized people resolve conflicts. Besides, no conflict here really, except Bryan refuses to address his mental health disorder, and continues to act out from it.
 
John Kuthe...
Sqwertz <swertz@cluemail.compost>: Mar 23 03:28PM -0500

On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 16:13:42 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:
 
> http://i68.tinypic.com/f0z0a0.jpg
 
Holy Mother of God! [making sign of the cross] And you criticize how
other people's food looks!?!?! If somebody else posted that pan of
puke you'd be all over it.
 
-sw
Sqwertz <swertz@cluemail.compost>: Mar 23 05:20PM -0500

On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:47:12 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:
 
 
> it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
> some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
> desserts "salad"
 
It's not just for dessert anymore.
 
Mrs. J.C Grigsby, Lehigh Acres, Florida, says this is a dish she
serves often for bridge luncheons. With it she serves fruit
salad, celery and carrot sticks.
 
Source: Southern Living magazine, July 1967.
 
Green Layer:
---------------------------------
1 package lime-flavored gelatin
1 cup boiling water
3/4 cup ice
1 teaspoon salt
3 tablespoons vinegar
1 cup grated cucumber
1/4 cup chopped green pepper
1/2 cup chopped celery
 
Doisolve gelatin in hot water. Add cold water, salt, and vinegar.
Chill until slightly thickened. Add vegetables and pour into
mold. Chill until firm.
 
Red Layer
------------------------------------
1-1/2 tablespoons unflavored gelatin
1/2 cup cold water
1 cup tomato juice
1 teaspoon onion juice
1 teaspoon salt
2 cups ground cooked turkey
 
Soak gelatin in cold water. Heat tomato juice; add gelatin and
stir until completely dissolved. Chill until slightly thickened.
Fold in seasonings and turkey. Put mixture over green layer and
chill until firm. Unmold and garnish with poinsettia flowers of
pimiento and green pepper.
 
-sw
Sqwertz <swertz@cluemail.compost>: Mar 23 05:20PM -0500

On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:40:28 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:
 
>> puke you'd be all over it.
 
> obviously you know nothing about cooking
 
> it's a pan of diarrhea
 
The difference between diarrhea and puke is only about 8 inches (as
the crow flies).
 
-sw
tert in seattle <tert@ftupet.com>: Mar 23 09:47PM

<http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>
 
it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
desserts "salad"
 
proving again that HL Mencken was correct
Brooklyn1 <gravesend10@verizon.net>: Mar 23 04:13PM -0400

Frying well seasoned chops:
http://i65.tinypic.com/2i9gvih.jpg
Do not wash pan, add black beans, I used two cans of Goya with liquid,
mashed with my 'ricer' while cooking until it reaches desired
consistancy, and taste to reseason... main seasoning is Penzeys adobo:
http://i68.tinypic.com/f0z0a0.jpg
Serve... very delicious:
http://i66.tinypic.com/246tnvt.jpg
Only thing missing were tortillas, can't get decent tortillas in this
back country... on Lung Guyland a dozen different local brands were
delivered to the Hispanic market all day, and still hot.
I cooked this almost two weeks ago but for some reason the ETECH xD
adapter for my camera's chip hadn't arrived until now.
"Colonel Edmund J. Burke" <burkesgurlz@t-girls.com>: Mar 23 01:31PM -0700

gives me the runs every time.
LOL
Gregory Morrow <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Mar 23 01:39PM -0700

Sheldon wrote:
 
> delivered to the Hispanic market all day, and still hot.
> I cooked this almost two weeks ago but for some reason the ETECH xD
> adapter for my camera's chip hadn't arrived until now.
 
 
Nice...it's a cool night here, wish I had that for dinner.
 
--
Best
Greg
Brooklyn1 <gravesend10@verizon.net>: Mar 23 05:11PM -0400

On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 13:39:11 -0700 (PDT), Gregory Morrow
>> I cooked this almost two weeks ago but for some reason the ETECH xD
>> adapter for my camera's chip hadn't arrived until now.
 
>Nice...it's a cool night here, wish I had that for dinner.
 
It's a very quick meal to prepare, no more than 30 minutes... just fry
some pork chops... open some canned beans and mash... make extra for
the next day or it freezes well.
Jeßus <j@j.invalid>: Mar 24 08:17AM +1100

On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 16:13:42 -0400, Brooklyn1
 
>Serve... very delicious:
>http://i66.tinypic.com/246tnvt.jpg
 
You sure have some nerve criticising other people's pics/food when you
post something like that. I wouldn't be terribly impressed if that was
served up to me, it reminds me of dog's barf.
Janet B <nospam@cableone.net>: Mar 23 03:44PM -0600

On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 16:13:42 -0400, Brooklyn1
>delivered to the Hispanic market all day, and still hot.
>I cooked this almost two weeks ago but for some reason the ETECH xD
>adapter for my camera's chip hadn't arrived until now.
 
I like the look of those chops.
Janet US
tert in seattle <tert@ftupet.com>: Mar 23 09:40PM

Sqwertz wrote:
> other people's food looks!?!?! If somebody else posted that pan of
> puke you'd be all over it.
 
> -sw
 
obviously you know nothing about cooking
 
it's a pan of diarrhea
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.net>: Mar 23 04:16PM -0400

On 3/23/2016 3:00 PM, dsi1 wrote:
 
 
> America should be manufacturing mostly durable goods because that's what we're good at. Leave the cheap trinkets to the other guys because that's what they're good at doing. My new dishwasher was built in the US.
 
Wish it was that simple. My dishwasher was made in the US, but our new
refrigerator was made in Korea. There are no US made fridges of the
design we want that fit in a 34" opening. O US but 2 from Korea.
 
Quality of China made stuff keeps getting better too.
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Mar 23 02:15PM -0700

On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 2:16:16 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> refrigerator was made in Korea. There are no US made fridges of the
> design we want that fit in a 34" opening. O US but 2 from Korea.
 
> Quality of China made stuff keeps getting better too.
 
Yet any time you BUY cheap Chinese JUNK, you are contributing to the demise of the U.S.!! See?
 
Frontline expose:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/walmart/view/
 
Music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw64hRgLBqM
 
Lyrics:
http://www.lyricsvip.com/The-Reverend-Peyton%27s-Big-Damn-Band/Walmart-Killed-the-Country-Store-Lyrics.html
 
 
Results: Data from http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html
 
U.S. Trade Imbalance with China (millions of dollars, to China)
 
Year Amount
1985 6
1986 1664
1987 2796
1988 3489
1989 6234
1990 10431
1991 12591
1992 18309
1993 22777
1994 29505
1995 33789
1996 39520
1997 47695
1998 56927
1999 68677
2000 83833
2001 83096
2002 103064
2003 124068
2004 161938
2005 201544
2006 232548
2007 258506
2008 268040
2009 208688
2010 273063
2011 295422
2012 315053
2013 318417
2014 342632
 
John Kuthe...
"Ophelia" <OphElsinore@gmail.com>: Mar 23 08:33PM

"S Viemeister" <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
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> It's not the same as the vacuum packed stuff sold in the US around St
> Patrick's Day - think _Spam_ but made with beef, rather than pork.
 
> <http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=259200234>
 
That's the one:))
 
 
 
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"Ophelia" <OphElsinore@gmail.com>: Mar 23 08:33PM

"sf" <sf@geemail.com> wrote in message
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>> the hot water ... the timing will begin once it reaches temp.
 
> Oh! That makes a lot of difference, thanks. How does it notify you
> that it's up to temp? Does it ding or do you have to keep checking?
 
Mine gives some long beeps when it gets to temp. Yours might be different
of course.
 
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"Ophelia" <OphElsinore@gmail.com>: Mar 23 08:33PM

"sf" <sf@geemail.com> wrote in message
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> I was planning to do it entirely in the oven, I'd rinse it off, pat
> dry and proceed - but I start it off in water and finish it in the
> oven.
 
I will do that then. Cold water, bring to boil etc. I'll do that tomorrow
before I pressure it.
 
> sous vide and served them to guests who preferred the texture of the
> traditionally cooked one. Both were tender and delicious, but there's
> a certain barely stringy quality people prefer with corned beef.
 
Hmm not had anything that came out 'stringy'.
 
> I've tried chicken and maybe even fish. I'm thinking that sous vide
> might be the way to cook thin fish fillets like sole, because I
> invariably over cook them.
 
I tried salmon fillets but they just got overcooked after even a short time.
You might have better luck than me.
 
 
> done, remember that ours has been brined in Prague powder (which means
> it's pink) and spices so they are completely different from what yours
> will be.
 
I will be taking it out in the morning and pressure cooking it. I put it in
last Friday and will take it out tomorrow (Thursday)
 
Did you see that I had found out about the Prontocure? It's a dry rub. I
am thinking that the next one I do, I can do the dry rub and then cook it
sous vide.
 
How does that sound?
 
> Holy moly, sous vide is a virtual money pit! I was wondering how to
> tell when something is at the desired temp and guess what I found?
 
> http://thermoworks.com/products/handheld/therma_k_sous_vide.html
 
I set the temp and time and it does it automatically. I don't need to test
it. Mine is different too. There is no water circulating.
 
 
> still a low price when I go to the store, I think I'll buy a couple
> and try them sous vide. They should be pretty juicy. Oh, that's
> another thing. Do you season or add butter when you sous vide?
 
Yes, both. Whatever you fancy:) Try it out.
 
 
>> I usually do a lot and freeze them. Very handy:)
 
> I was wondering about cooking times, which can be quite long, and
> eating. Do you cook them the day before and refrigerate, or what?
 
Usually. I also do a lot together and freeze the extras. Just stick the
packets in the freezer when they are cold
 
 
> Here's how to cook corned beef on your stove top
 
> http://startcooking.com/how-to-cook-corned-beef-brisket
 
Thanks, I'll have a look at that for next time.
 
 
>> suck it out but I do have a food saver now and prefer it.
 
> One of the sites suggested slowly submerging the bag and letting water
> pressure take care of pushing the air out.
 
Hey use what works for you:)
 
 
Seemed simple enough.
> Then just clip it to the side of the container you're using. What I
> haven't found out yet is how the water circulates around a bag that's
> clipped to a container (for even "cooking").
 
As I said, ours doesn't circulate.
 
Mine looks a bit like this. It doubles as a slow cooker too:
 
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Zyon-Premium-Sous-Water-Cooker/dp/B010671LE0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1458764701&sr=8-1&keywords=sous+vide+cookers
 
> seems there's an app you put on your phone, so you can start the water
> heating on your way home (from work or shopping, I guess). Do you
> ever use that feature and do you find it convenient?
 
Mine doesn't have that so I can't help. Anyway, for many things the cooking
is so long I don't really think you will need to be starting it on the way
home, well unless you are a long way off ... Still who knows <g> Remember
too, if it is starting from cold, it could take a while to get up to temp
before it starts cooking.
 
Btw next week I want to have a go at that 'corned chicken' recipe. It
sounds really good.
 
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Jeßus <j@j.invalid>: Mar 24 07:27AM +1100

>> the more negative changes, although as you mention, the temperatures
>> might not be nice in January...
 
>I never made it to Ayers Rock (or whatever it's now called)
 
It's still called Ayer's Rock as far as I am concerned.
It's worth a visit due to it's uniqueness, the walk to the top is
worth the view (and clean air like you've never experienced before).
But there's little else nearby of interest apart from the Olgas and
perhaps King's Canyon.
 
>nor
>Queensland and it's a pity that they will be too unpleasant. Perhaps Hobart.
 
Hobart is your best bet, although that's not to say that it can't get
hot there too. Usually only for short periods, though.
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