Monday, April 20, 2020

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Creme Fraiche <caf@lat.ta>: Apr 18 03:59PM -0400

Sheldon Martin formulated on Saturday :
>> can still remember how desperately ill I felt.
 
>> Janet UK
 
> Started from chinky Asians too.
 
I don't always agree with you but yes, China
should have to pay dearly for this clusterfuck.
 
People are too busy bitching about Trump than
to put the blame where it *really* belongs.
Janet <nobody@home.org>: Apr 18 12:08PM +0100

In article <MGtmG.3779$2P1.2063@fx15.iad>, j_mcquown@comcast.net says...
> through a pandemic. The last one I read about (other than a little bit
> about Ebola) was the Spanish Flu pandemic back in 1918. Back then they
> thought it was bacterial. They hadn't yet discovered virii...
 
There was a later pandemic in 1957, called "Asian Flu". I was 9 and
can still remember how desperately ill I felt.
 
Janet UK
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Apr 18 03:48PM -0400

On 2020-04-18 1:47 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
 
> Uh... why would they still be considering holding an art festival right
> now?  No surprise everyone is able to email but what was the answer to
> the question?
 
 
This year's show has been cancelled. AAMOF, We had decided at the March
meeting to discuss contingency plans at the April meeting. I was the one
who pushed to act before that. We discussed it by emails and did an
email vote where it was unanimously decided to cancel. It was planned
for Mothers Day weekend. We thought that they isolation order might be
lifted by then, but that people would be gun shy about being in crowds.
We had already had the usual volunteers reluctant to commit.
 
I wanted to cancel before any more major expenses came up. We had just
spent a bundle on advertising, printing posters and brochures, and had
spent more than $500 on postage for the artists' packages. I also
figured it was better for us to cancel than to risk a flop. Luckily, we
had set aside surplus from previous years and put them into GICs. This
was the rainy day we had been saving them for.
 
> enjoyable books.  As long as I didn't just read it last month. LOL
 
> As for so-called "masterpieces" of literature, some of them bored me to
> tears.  I thought 'The Great Gatsby' was pretty darn dull.
 
That's one I am glad was never on a course reading list. I got about 50
pages into it before I walked away from it.
 
 
 
> I read for enjoyment.  I'm not in school completing an assignment.  If
> it bores me I won't read it.  There's always another book. :)
 
I used to always read books through, no matter how boring they got. The
problem was that when I finally finished a bad book I didn't bother
starting another for a while. I got into the habit of borrowing at least
three books at a time and if a book isn't doing it for me I put it down
and start another one, hopefully a better one.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Apr 18 11:05AM -0400


> There was a later pandemic in 1957, called "Asian Flu". I was 9 and
>can still remember how desperately ill I felt.
 
> Janet UK
 
Started from chinky Asians too.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Apr 18 03:28PM -0400

On 2020-04-18 1:09 p.m., graham wrote:
> anti-virals stopped after 24 hours of a hint of what a full blown attack
> would be like. My Dr had me get the new vaccine at the end of last year
> that is supposed to be more effective.
 
On my way home about half an hour ago there was a program on CBC that
talked about vaccines. The guest said that close to 40% of people who
have had chicken pox end up getting shingles. The said that for most
people Shingrex is 98% effective. There is a variation of the disease
for which it is still about 90% effective.
 
In the last two years I got one shot of the old and two of the new. I am
going to be really pissed if I end up with shingles.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Apr 19 06:30AM +1000

>books.
 
>Read the old book, "The White Plague" by Frank Herbert sometime.
>Copyright 1982
 
I read that but too long ago to remember. I'm sure I preferred it to
The Great Gatsby.
Creme Fraiche <caf@lat.ta>: Apr 18 05:54PM -0400

Lucretia Borgia submitted this idea :
 
>> Cindy Hamilton
 
> I heard today that the 'source' was most likely a dead bat, eaten by a
> street dog and subsequently it transferred to humans.
 
It started out as a bat from a wet market and now
the rumor is it was a lab near the market. <shrug>
Leo <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net>: Apr 18 08:00PM -0700

On 2020 Apr 18, , Bruce wrote
> they're best buddies.
 
> Fact remains that when Fauci criticised the narcissistic moron, Trump
> retweeted a tweet saying Fauci had to be fired.
 
The fever is strong with this one. These are not the villains you are
looking for.
 
leo
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Apr 18 08:00PM -0400

On 4/18/2020 6:51 PM, Bruce wrote:
 
>> Yes, watching the news right now. In one place 4% have the antibodies
>> and they think the actual rate of infection may be 85% higher.
 
> In the US, right?
 
yes
Leo <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net>: Apr 18 10:55PM -0700

On 2020 Apr 18, , Bruce wrote
 
> Yes, but your thoughts? Do you feel that your freedom is being
> encroached upon for no good reason? Are you ready to get your gun out
> and march in the streets?
 
No. I'm too old. Militancy is for the young. Lying to the young and
fooling them into believing mind garbage is for the old. Hopefully, it
isn't working on you.
 
> Yes, Trump didn't seem to realise that. "I am the President. I am the
> authority" and all that. That was hilarious :)
 
The President realizes it completely. He won't do what he can do. He is
the final authority, and every State's governor would love him to make
the decision to open or keep their state closed. Then they could blame him
if/when things went to hell. The Democrat Party would love him to exercise
full wartime powers as well. Remember, Bruce, nobody knows sh*t, but
we're getting smarter every day.
Not one soul on Earth knows how this mess will play out.
Statistics only show what's happening right now and happened in the past.
Extrapolation of covid statistics is best left to carnival seers. President
Trump only has best guesses to rely on. So do the governors and the World.
Nobody is certain if a palliative is right around the corner, already here
or never to be. Hang in there buddy!
 
leo
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Apr 19 12:01PM -0400

On 2020-04-19 10:52 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
> in a hospital or a clinic?  We're in the middle of a pandemic so they
> are definitely looking for nurses.  Ah, he likely couldn't pass the
> necessary background checks.
 
I am not sure how things are in the US but up here they are asking
retired doctors and nurses to come back to work. The other day I
mentioned that friends of ours have signed up to go back. She was a ER
nurse for years but has been retired. I was told there is a way to fast
track her for re-certification. He was a doctor and should be okay
because he just retired in the last year or so.
Janet <nobody@home.org>: Apr 19 04:43PM +0100

In article <f683bc6c-88ca-4c93-b2bd-285b8330f8c9@googlegroups.com>,
johnkuthern@gmail.com says...
> > necessary background checks.
 
> > Jill
 
> I prefer one client, not many.
 
Preferably non-verbal children who can't tell anyone.
 
Janet UK
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Apr 19 11:52AM -0400

On 4/19/2020 10:46 AM, graham wrote:
 
>> leo
 
> https://freethoughtblogs.com/singham/2020/04/15/if-donald-trump-had-been-the-captain-of-the-titanic/
 
> http://tiny.cc/96tbnz
 
ROFL Graham! I may be wrong (I'm only human) but seems to me when Trump
first announced he was running for office he appeared on a late-night
talk show (The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon in 2015). Oh, yes he did:
 
https://fortune.com/2015/09/12/donald-trump-fallon-late-night/
 
Or, funny:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2DgwPG7mAA
 
I don't think he ever dreamed people would take him seriously, much less
have people vote into office. Unfortunately they did and here we are...
 
Yeah... the Titanic.
 
This administration has sadly played out like a 'Saturday Night Live'
skit. I didn't vote for this guy. All I can say is I hope people THE
PEOPLE will vote him out in November.
 
Jill
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Apr 19 05:20PM +1000

On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 22:55:52 -0700, Leo <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
 
 
>No. I'm too old. Militancy is for the young. Lying to the young and
>fooling them into believing mind garbage is for the old. Hopefully, it
>isn't working on you.
 
Do you agree with them? Do you feel the same way as them?
 
>> Yes, Trump didn't seem to realise that. "I am the President. I am the
>> authority" and all that. That was hilarious :)
 
>The President realizes it completely.
 
He was clueless, until wiser men told him he was talking out of his
ass. The next day he was better informed :)
 
>Trump only has best guesses to rely on. So do the governors and the World.
>Nobody is certain if a palliative is right around the corner, already here
>or never to be. Hang in there buddy!
 
You too. It might become like influenza. Here to stay.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Apr 19 12:08PM -0400

On 4/19/2020 10:55 AM, graham wrote:
 
>> Cindy Hamilton
 
> Someone who believes the news should be all about him and not some
> pandemic.
 
I'm pretty sure Cindy's question was both sarcastic and rhetorical. :)
 
Trump flip-flops his position constantly. He shouldn't be trying to use
this pandemic to gain popularity. It's not about HIM. He should shut
the hell up, listen to and let medical professionals and the CDC with
factual data inform the public. Time to get off the stage, it's not
about *you*. JMHO, of course.
 
Jill
Doris Night <goodnightdoris@yahoo.com>: Apr 18 10:45PM -0500

On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 21:44:42 -0400, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
wrote:
 
 
>name was Steve. He said he was a Vietnam vet. He rambled a bit; he was
>likely mentally ill and quite possibly a drug addict and alcoholic. But
>at least I know on that day, he ate a hot meal.
 
That was very nice of you, Jill.
 
Doris
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Apr 19 06:38AM +1000

On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 13:26:48 -0400, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
wrote:
 
>the service station surely they could use some of it to flush the
>toilet. Cindy was stating a fact. It is entirely possible to flush a
>toilet by pouring a bucket of water in it.
 
Sounds very impractical to me, especially for a family. You'd want to
organise synchronised pooping or you'll be going to the service
station all day.
Janet <nobody@home.org>: Apr 19 12:05PM +0100

In article <wyDmG.72538$Ff6.11036@fx40.iad>, esp@snet.xxx says...
 
> I'd not say fake but news people often take bland reports and
> sensationalize them. I've heard nothing on the news here about water
> shutoffs.
 
deaf and blind? Try googling "USA water cut-offs"
 
> If it was a big problem some of the news outlets here would have picked
> it up too.
 
 
 
Keep in mind, in 50 states there are thousands of water
> suppliers. Did they take what one or two are doing and extrapolate that
> the entire country does the same? I don't know. No one here knows.
 
 
"Food and Water Watch, a prominent (USA) national research and advocacy
group, tried a fresh approach earlier this year. To get a handle on the
most basic data ? the number of shutoffs ? the group sent requests to
the two largest water utilities in each state. The group asked for the
number of residential households disconnected from water service in 2016
and the number of residential accounts.
 
Seventy-three utilities responded. Shutoff rates ? the number of shutoff
households divided by the number of accounts ? varied widely, according
to Food and Water Watch?s report, which was published in October. Rates
ranged from 23 percent in Oklahoma City and 20 percent in Tulsa, to 1
percent in Baltimore, Boston, and Dallas. Three utilities ? Eau Claire,
Wisconsin; Leominster, Massachusetts; and the Champlain Water District
in Vermont ? did not shut off any homes in 2016."
 
Janet
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Apr 19 09:45PM +1000

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 04:39:01 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>off water for nonpayment. However, I read about a woman living in Detroit
>who needs $5000 in plumbing repairs that she cannot afford before her water
>can be turned back on. She's been living that way for several years.
 
Anecdotal.
Janet <nobody@home.org>: Apr 19 12:32PM +0100

In article <RdMmG.2066$AE7.1706@fx41.iad>, esp@snet.xxx says...
 
> They make a big deal and undertake a study to come up with the obvious
> that everyone has known for the past century. The PC crowd does not
> have the balls to state "as expected"
 
Yet you posted "
 
I've heard nothing on the news here about water
shutoffs.
 
If it was a big problem some of the news outlets here would have picked
it up too. Keep in mind, in 50 states there are thousands of water
suppliers. Did they take what one or two are doing and extrapolate that
the entire country does the same? I don't know. No one here knows.".
 
Now you do know;
 
1)do you think it acceptable that poor people have no water to wash
thair hands during the covid pandemic.
 
2) This means more of them will be a reservoir of covid infection
which will affect every level of US society.
 
 
Janet UK
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Apr 19 05:21PM +1000

On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 23:52:13 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> sauerkraut. That's German. Copycats!
 
>My guess is that the Chinese invented ketchup. I love that stuff!
 
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL1tDfWDbsA
 
I don't trust it because it never goes off.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Apr 18 11:21PM -0400

On 4/18/2020 4:58 PM, cshenk wrote:
 
> Makes sense to me too. It's really hard to go more than 3 miles here,
> and not pass a grocery store. You have to go some 15-20 miles from me
> and Gary, for that to stop.
 
Exactly, Carol. Every geographical area is different. I live on one of
a string of sea islands pretty much in the middle of nowhere. Not much
of anything around in the way of shopping centers. Unless you drive
15-20 miles, maybe to WalMart, maybe on to Publix or Food Lion on Lady's
Island.
 
I really appreciate having a store closer to home for simple things like
buying a half gallon of milk. :)
 
Jill
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Apr 18 11:28PM -0400

On 4/18/2020 5:07 PM, cshenk wrote:
 
>> Quit being so clueless in RFC. Read closer for comprehension.
 
> Quit being so rude. My reading is fine. You snipped her post and
> tried to add a smiley. The smiley doesn't make it 'ok'.
 
I don't know what his problem is lately, Carol. Turned into a nasty
temperament. Next thing you know he'll be calling you a "Princess",
too. Heh.
 
I can only guess he keeps snipping posts because he's worried about
bandwidth. Maybe he's being charged by the word. <shrug>
 
Jill
Jill
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Apr 18 11:18AM -0400

dsi1 wrote:
> Raw Spam? That's going too far!
 
That was a joke based on past posts where there was some talk
about eating spam sashimi. I responded that there was no
spam sashimi available in my area. ;)
 
I do prefer spam right from the can though..with mayo on
white bread. Lettuce if available.
 
 
> Tonight I made some grilled ahi with brown garlic and butter.
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/x7MzTEf6TeK_Y2pxRo9VzA.RcSIk4AADdznXfh_lvXqGd
 
Good job! That looks and sounds good!
Creme Fraiche <caf@lat.ta>: Apr 18 03:16PM -0400

Sheldon Martin has brought this to us :
 
>> Cindy Hamilton
 
> I don't have a Nordic Track or a Smart Phone. I get too much exercise
> caring for these twenty acres,
 
You pat yourself on the back enough to
burn a few calories too, Shelley, you
blowhard.
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