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| U.S. Janet B. <JB@nospam.com>: May 30 09:23AM -0600 >This American wasn't outraged about that but I did sigh. >A football game is all about football and not a venue for >any kind of protest, imo. snip It isn't about politics either. Why was rump there? |
| U.S. Janet B. <JB@nospam.com>: May 30 09:26AM -0600 On Sat, 30 May 2020 03:21:15 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton >officers, the man has a history of using force. The department should >not have put him back on the street without re-training. >Cindy Hamilton those three officers were participating. Two of them were also kneeling on the body while the last cop watched. |
| U.S. Janet B. <JB@nospam.com>: May 30 09:28AM -0600 On Sat, 30 May 2020 10:12:13 -0400, Dave Smith >with breathing, and it reduced the risk of constricting the carotid a >artery and spinal cord. I read something about his struggling when they >tried to put him in the car, but did not see any video of that. snip there was no need at all to kneel on him, period. Janet US |
| Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: May 30 11:43AM -0400 On 2020-05-30 11:28 a.m., U.S. Janet B. wrote: >> tried to put him in the car, but did not see any video of that. > snip > there was no need at all to kneel on him, period. I don't think we know that. It was suggested that he resisted when they tried to put him in the car. |
| Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: May 30 09:12AM -0700 On Saturday, May 30, 2020 at 11:26:51 AM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote: > >Cindy Hamilton > those three officers were participating. Two of them were also > kneeling on the body while the last cop watched. Ah. I haven't followed the story all that closely. We've got our own protests in Ann Arbor, over a cop who punched a black woman in the head for resisting arrest. She was eventually turned over to another jurisdiction for an outstanding warrant for resisting arrest, so I'm inclined to side with the cops. Perhaps they couldn't reach their Taser. Cindy Hamilton |
| Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: May 30 12:23PM -0400 On 2020-05-30 10:43 a.m., Lucretia Borgia wrote: > You need to look at the footage, he didn't protest, he was cuffed > behind his back and led towards that vehicle calmly. At worst it > could have been something said, nothing more. Apparently, what the video does not show is that George Floyd was stiffening and then falling limp to the ground. He claimed that he was claustrophobic. Since you seem to have seen the surveillance video you would know that when the police first arrived he was in a car. Someone needs to explain how claustrophobia is a legitimate reason not to get into the cop car when he had had no problem getting into that other car. Everyone seems to believe that the cop kneeling on his neck strangled the man, but there was no evidence of that being the cause of death. George Floyd had a number of underlying health issues including heart disease, and they are waiting for the results of toxicology tests. |
| Gary <g.majors@att.net>: May 30 12:25PM -0400 graham wrote: > facebook screed. Their media idols tell them that hateful and childish > behaviour is all-American - but their idols are lying to them. The rest > of the country looks on with horror and disgust." I nominate this post above for the "silliest," most biased, and uninformed post of the year in RFC. You just named all that you don't agree with into one single political group. I lean toward conservatism (economically) but I have never watched Fox News. "Brainwashing" too funny. Unbelievable to me how some minds work. Even now, the wrongful killing of the black fellow and all the protests going on. Once again, all Trump's fault. |
| Gary <g.majors@att.net>: May 30 12:25PM -0400 Ophelia wrote: > I suspect they might do them here too, but since I never go in, I don't > know:)) > What kind of toys are they? Happy Meals are cheap. Next time you go into town and see a McD, just stop in and order one. You might even like the food. The toys are small and cute, no big deal. |
| Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: May 30 09:54AM -0700 On Saturday, May 30, 2020 at 12:26:56 PM UTC-4, Gary wrote: > most biased, and uninformed post of the year in RFC. > You just named all that you don't agree with into one > single political group. You realize Graham didn't write that, don't you? Although I'm sure he agrees with it since he posted it. > I lean toward conservatism (economically) but I have > never watched Fox News. "Brainwashing" too funny. Then the post doesn't describe you. You're not a brainwashed Fox viewer. Don't take it so personally. > Unbelievable to me how some minds work. > Even now, the wrongful killing of the black fellow and all > the protests going on. Once again, all Trump's fault. Ok, Trump didn't say "Kill that black fellow". But his racist tweets are obvious and they foster racism throughout the country. He has made a lot of people think it's OK to be a racist. In response to the protests and looting, Trump quoted Walter Headley, who was police chief of Miami in 1967 and a notorious racist. George Wallace also said essentially the same thing. Not someone in whose footsteps any sane person should be interested in following. Cindy Hamilton |
| Janet <nobody@home.org>: May 30 05:54PM +0100 In article <5ED26212.E93A948A@att.net>, g.majors@att.net says... BTW, condolences to your husband that has to live with you. Congratulations to your ex-wife, for deciding not to live with you. Janet UK |
| Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: May 30 10:03AM -0700 On Saturday, May 30, 2020 at 12:54:58 PM UTC-4, Janet wrote: > BTW, condolences to your husband that has to live with you. > Congratulations to your ex-wife, for deciding not to live with you. > Janet UK Good one. I'm grateful I wasn't drinking a beverage when I read that. Cindy Hamilton |
| Gary <g.majors@att.net>: May 30 01:24PM -0400 Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > Congratulations to your ex-wife, for deciding not to live with you. > > Janet UK > Good one. I'm grateful I wasn't drinking a beverage when I read that. See my post to Janet UK. about that. |
| Gary <g.majors@att.net>: May 30 01:24PM -0400 Janet wrote: > BTW, condolences to your husband that has to live with you. > Congratulations to your ex-wife, for deciding not to live with you. > Janet UK Keep in mind that my ex-wife also decided not to live with her 2 young daughters either, Mrs Smartypants |
| Gary <g.majors@att.net>: May 30 12:26PM -0400 Lucretia Borgia wrote: > have a box of floppy disks, I think it's Best Buy that has an adapter > that can be placed like an external HD or CD drive, might be fun to > get one and see what's on them after all these years. I still have both of my old Commodore computers in the original boxes along with tape drive, 5.25 floppy drive, printer and all the software I bought either in cartridges or what I wrote myself stored on tape. Someday, maybe hook one up to a tv and see if it still works. |
| Bob <fokker45@hotmail.com>: May 30 12:38PM -0400 On 5/30/2020 7:43 AM, Taxed and Spent wrote: >>> that is all you are worth. Hard to say. >> The workweek starts on Sunday. > so what? He still works four days a week, 12 hours a day. Our payroll week starts on Wednesday. Maybe his week is different. |
| "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: May 30 09:38AM -0700 On Saturday, May 30, 2020 at 9:42:05 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote: > and then a week of midnights. If there were training courses or court > when we were scheduled for midnights we would change to days. I ended up > rarely working the graveyard shift. When I worked my shifts were a month of T-F-S nights, then a month of T-F-S days. Then I would roll to a month of M-T-W night shift with just Sunday and half of Monday off. After that shift, it would be a month of M-T-W days. Then 8 days off to start back again on a T-F-S night shift. |
| Taxed and Spent <nospamplease@nonospam.com>: May 30 09:41AM -0700 On 5/30/2020 9:38 AM, Bob wrote: >> so what? He still works four days a week, 12 hours a day. > Our payroll week starts on Wednesday. Maybe his week is different. None of that matters. He named the four days per week he works. But apparently he is getting paid for three, and is thrilled with that. LOL Maybe he didn't state what is really happening. |
| graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: May 30 10:53AM -0600 On 2020-05-30 8:53 a.m., Dave Smith wrote: > them might need the old software to read them. > I had enough trouble when I used 3.5 inch floppies for a backup program. > A few months later when I needed the back up some of the disks failed. Not so for me! The Geological Survey wanted some data from me that had been saved on 5.25" floppies. Luckily I had kept the old computer (a 486) and retrieved it but I had to save it to a 3.5" so that a newer computer could burn a cd that my Windows 10 machine would read. I could have used yet another old computer to read that cd and save it to a memory stick. As it happened, the data were saved using an obsolete program and I had to get a special app written to read them. |
| Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: May 30 10:00AM -0700 On Saturday, May 30, 2020 at 12:41:52 PM UTC-4, Taxed and Spent wrote: > > Our payroll week starts on Wednesday. Maybe his week is different. > None of that matters. He named the four days per week he works. He named four days that he worked. He never said that was his regular schedule. > But > apparently he is getting paid for three, and is thrilled with that. LOL He named four days that he worked, and they fell within a calendar week. When most people (and I realize that Kuthe isn't most people) talk about their work week, it might not align with the calendar week. > Maybe he didn't state what is really happening. Probably he didn't. Cindy Hamilton |
| Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: May 30 01:06PM -0400 On 2020-05-30 12:41 p.m., Taxed and Spent wrote: > None of that matters. He named the four days per week he works. But > apparently he is getting paid for three, and is thrilled with that. LOL He is easily pleased. He spend a lot of money to buy the house that he had been living it. Then spend on repairs and is now in the midst of spending $113K on a new roof. He is renting out two rooms for $250 a month and considers it to be income. He obviously has low enough expectations to be easily pleased. |
| "cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net>: May 30 11:56AM -0500 Don had snagged a large 10lb pork shoulder, prefrozen and put it in the freezer as it was. We defrosted it in the fridge for a few days and cut it down to more useful portions for us yesterday. The bones with a good amount of meat went in the crockpot. 16oz dried black eye peas 4oz dried large lima (butterbeans) all bone and a good amount of meat from 10lb pork shoulder 2.5 TB dried minced garlic 3 TB dried minced onion 2 TB knorrs chicken bullion powder Water to cover plus 1 inch I started it about 20 hours ago on low. It's been on 'warm' for a few hours now (same temp now as the older ones had for 'low' and holds a bare simmer). Makes probably 20 1/2 cup servings so 10-12 with how we eat it, broth and all. |
| ChristKiller@deathtochristianity.pl: May 30 10:48AM -0500 On Fri, 29 May 2020 13:24:55 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" >> infected items >Crusty Kruller is bored yet again. Digging up posts from February 27, >2-0-1-9 to reply to a post he's already bitched about at that time. and yet you replied to said posting... -- ____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____ |
| "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: May 30 09:30AM -0700 > >Crusty Kruller is bored yet again. Digging up posts from February 27, > >2-0-1-9 to reply to a post he's already bitched about at that time. > and yet you replied to said posting... I surely did! I love pointing out stupid mistakes by stupid people. |
| Taxed and Spent <nospamplease@nonospam.com>: May 30 09:36AM -0700 >>> 2-0-1-9 to reply to a post he's already bitched about at that time. >> and yet you replied to said posting... > I surely did! I love pointing out stupid mistakes by stupid people. And you pointed out a fresh mistake, not a stale mistake. |
| GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: May 30 08:36AM -0700 So apparently the MSP cop who is charged with killing Floyd was once brought up on charges many years ago, yet when the case was sent to a grand jury he got off: "And it was current Democrat Senator Amy Klobuchar, the former county attorney, who failed to prosecute Chauvin for misdeeds in the past..." link here: https://nypost.com/2020/05/29/amy-klobuchar-previously-declined-to-prosecute-cop/ Here is the text of an article from City Journal, looks like MSP and MN Democratic officials were "asleep at the wheel": https://www.city-journal.org/progressive-politicians-watch-as-minneapolis-burns Standing Down Progressive politicians watch as Minneapolis burns. Willis L. Krumholz May 29, 2020 "In 2014, shortly after his release from a Texas prison, George Floyd moved to Minnesota for a fresh start. In Minneapolis, he worked as a truck driver and as a security guard at the Conga Latin Bistro, where he was known as "Big Floyd." A few months ago, he was laid off due to the strict stay-at-home order imposed by the state's Democratic governor, Tim Walz. Floyd looked for work; it's unclear if he was eligible for coronavirus-related unemployed benefits. Bad habits crept back in. Earlier this week, Floyd, apparently under the influence of an intoxicant, attempted to buy a package of cigarettes from a small shop in south Minneapolis with a counterfeit $20 bill. The store's owner, Mahmod Abumayaleh, called the police. The recorded footage of the arrest showed Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin with his knee placed squarely on Floyd's neck, while Floyd begged for mercy. Floyd, who didn't resist arrest, died soon after. Chauvin, who was subsequently fired, had 18 prior complaints filed against him with the police department's internal-affairs division. In a bizarre twist, it appears that Chauvin and Floyd were also once coworkers: they worked security at the same nightclub, and possibly knew each other. The protests that followed were, initially, peaceful. Thousands packed the streets on Wednesday with signs and calls for Chauvin's arrest. By that night, however, things turned ugly. "The most shocking thing to me when I was on the ground is realizing just how quickly the emphasis of justice for George Floyd was lost," observed a reporter for The Daily Caller. "As the evening wore on into the early morning hours, the original crowd of people that was there holding protest signs, doing chants, quickly deteriorated." Cars sped around wildly, knowing the police wouldn't respond. People drank alcohol and smoked marijuana in the streets. Then the rioters began looting and burning buildings, starting in south Minneapolis but quickly moving to the more-upscale Uptown neighborhood. Rows of businesses and shops on Uptown's Lake Street were looted and torched. Emergency call logs recorded dozens of "fire events," and responders were attacked with rocks and other projectiles. A $30 million affordable-housing project was burnt, as was a Cub Foods grocery store. A man looting a pawn shop was shot by the store owner, who was quickly arrested. Thursday night was even worse. The looting continued in Uptown, where thugs broke into the Apple Store. In a plea to be left alone, store owners posted signs saying that the store was minority-owned. Windows were smashed and stores looted in the Downtown business district. Looting and rioting spread to St. Paul; between Minneapolis and St. Paul, well over 170 stores and shops were looted and destroyed. There were also reports of looting or attempted looting at malls across the Twin Cities. Most shockingly, rioters took over the Minneapolis Police Third Precinct building and set it ablaze. The police—under orders—retreated from their own headquarters, turning it over to the mob, which attempted to blow it up and burn down the neighborhood. Minneapolis Police Chief Medaria Arradondo said that the official inaction was motivated by concern for the safety of his officers, the looters, and the protesters. After the night of mayhem, a woman was also found dead in a car near the riot areas, with signs of trauma—the second person to die as the result of the rioting and looting as of Friday morning. After making initial comments Wednesday, before the looting started, Governor Tim Walz hid from the press for almost a day, refusing even to issue a statement. He said that he had mobilized the National Guard but didn't formulate a plan until after the second night of looting had begun. In a press conference Friday morning, where Walz announced that he had taken control from local officials, it became apparent that he didn't even give the order for the National Guard to act until Friday. Walz blamed his inaction on Minneapolis mayor Jacob Frey. Frey — a Democrat who let left-wing rioters run amok when President Trump came to town — shrugged off responsibility and minimized the damage. Clearly the source of the police stand-down order that allowed his own city to burn, Frey kept repeating that the destruction was "just brick and mortar." After Frey was informed that Walz's office was taking over, a reporter asked "What's the plan here? What are we doing?" Frey responded, looking dazed: "With regard to?" For what it's worth, every public official responsible for the mayhem is a Democrat—the governor, the mayors of Minneapolis and St. Paul, and even Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman, who finally had Chauvin arrested on Friday. And it was current Democrat Senator Amy Klobuchar, the former county attorney, who failed to prosecute Chauvin for misdeeds in the past. Democrats collectively run a state that has one of the widest racial disparities in the country in terms of education and income. Of course, the looters and arsonists aren't indicative of Democrats, or black Americans, or young people, or any other group. They are a small minority of radicals seemingly licensed to terrorize the rest of us. In the affected communities, both white and black Americans took to the street the next morning to clean up. Aside from the looters, the people who look the worst are Frey, Walz, and their progressive supporters. At the end of the day, they don't have any skin in the game. Residents of the neighborhoods being wrecked cowered in fear, with no police in sight. Apartment windows were smashed, and people worried that their homes would be burned. Yet Walz and Frey could afford not to act, because it wasn't politically convenient and because it wasn't their businesses, homes, and neighborhoods getting torched. The same goes for many of those from elsewhere who took to Facebook, Twitter, MSNBC, CNN, and the blogosphere to defend or justify the looting. They would think differently if their neighborhoods and livelihoods were on the line..." </> |
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