Thursday, May 28, 2020

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 10 topics

ChristKiller@deathtochristianity.pl: May 28 12:39PM -0500

On Wed, 27 May 2020 22:53:57 -0600, U.S. Janet B. <JB@nospam.com>
wrote:
 
>continue to spread, perhaps even spike again. Do you want to go
>through shut down again?
 
>Janet US
 
Well the shutdown was completely and totally an act of fear and
stupidity that should never have taken place in the first place, but
hey I enjoyed my 1200 bucks! You can NOT stop the spread of anything
which is why it was all over the world in a matter of weeks.
Asymptomatic means immune, if there are people that are immune then
why the hell are they calling it a novel virus? The disease must run
its course, do its damage and wearing masks does nothing for anyone.
If the person is infected they are going to spread the disease whether
they are wearing a mask or not. A mask is NOT going to prevent
anything at all.
 
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ChristKiller@deathtochristianity.pl: May 28 12:40PM -0500


>Oddly, his mandate is only for "everyone over the age of 10."
>I suspect most parents will/should protect their young
>ones with a mask too. I can't imagine not doing so.
 
 
That mandate is pure stupidity
 
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ChristKiller@deathtochristianity.pl: May 28 12:41PM -0500

On Thu, 28 May 2020 09:51:03 -0400, Dave Smith
>people I saw driving alone in their cars and wearing masks. There seemed
>to be more doing that than wearing them in stores. It seemed so strange
>because there is really no need to wear one in a car by yourself.
 
 
ok so spotting an idiot applies to anywhere someone wears a mask,
expecially alone in a car LOL!
 
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Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: May 28 11:31AM -0400

On Wed, 27 May 2020 21:02:20 -0400, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
wrote:
 
 
>> Get the Sony 3 inch cube. (Auto daylight time, etc.)
 
>3 inches? How on earth would that clearly display the time?
 
>Jill
 
Those numerals are plenty big from 15' away in a darkened bedroom, and
ours is set in the dim mode.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: May 28 12:03PM -0400

On 5/28/2020 11:31 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
 
>> Jill
 
> Those numerals are plenty big from 15' away in a darkened bedroom, and
> ours is set in the dim mode.
 
Whatever. I have a digital electric alarm clock large numbers with
battery backup. It sits on the night stand on the other side of the
bed. When needed I set the alarm, it goes off. I wake up, get out of
bed and turn it off. It's not rocket science and it doesn't require an
Amazon Prime account to buy electric alarm clock.
 
Jill
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: May 28 10:41AM -0700

On Thursday, May 28, 2020 at 12:03:11 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
> bed and turn it off. It's not rocket science and it doesn't require an
> Amazon Prime account to buy electric alarm clock.
 
> Jill
 
You don't need an Amazon Prime account to buy an electric alarm clock
on Amazon.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: May 28 11:37AM -0400

On Thu, 28 May 2020 Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> And I had to run down in my 100% electric car and get more free range veggies for tomorrow's VSTD Meal!
 
>We are all so proud of you!
 
>Cindy Hamilton
 
If Kootchie were truly devoted he'd grow his own.
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: May 28 12:32PM -0500

Sheldon Martin wrote:
 
>> We are all so proud of you!
 
>> Cindy Hamilton
 
> If Kootchie were truly devoted he'd grow his own.
 
Just like yoose Popeye!
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: May 28 12:20PM -0400

I bought some T shirts the other day and they had that new feel and
smell that needed to be washed out. I had some other things that could
go into the wash. The only problem was that I was not going to have
enough air dry time because it is supposed to rain here this afternoon.
I figured I could give it partial air drying by leaving it out until the
rain was imminent.
 
 
I had some cardboard boxes and bags of papers that needed to be burned,
and a pile of brush to get rid off. I hauled the paper and cardboard
out to the brush pile and set it alight. Once it was going will I
figured I could mow the lawn and keep an eye on the fire. By the time I
finished the lawn there were just a couple smouldering chunks of wood
left so I pushed them into the centre of the burn pit. I checked the sky
and figured it was time to bring the laundry in. It was almost dry.
Just as I was heading back into the house the rain started. The weather
radio indicates that it will be pouring rain any minute now.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: May 28 01:23PM -0400

Dave Smith brought next idea :
> the laundry in. It was almost dry. Just as I was heading back into the house
> the rain started. The weather radio indicates that it will be pouring rain
> any minute now.
 
Fascinating stuff Davey, no really.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: May 28 01:03PM -0400

On Thu, 28 May 2020 Gary wrote:
 
>I know that many grow corn in your area.
 
>I was familiar with Galway, NY many years ago. (1980's)
>Somewhat near you, isn't it?
 
The last owners had a good sized vegetable garden that at some point
they abandonded and it became very overrun with giant weeds, we
cleaned it up and now use it. They also used a few acres growing
Christmas trees until the market for live trees died... the last of
the trees are still growing but are too large now for Christmas trees
in someones home, more the size for Rockerfella Center. But on most
of the acreage they grew hay and sold it to the race tracks in NYC and
also to the NYC police departmant for their horses. They grew some
kind of special hay that I know nothing about. The last of their hay
was baled and sold just before we moved here, since then we keep
mowing those fields. Buying haying equipment and maintaining it is
very costly plus I know nothing about haying except that after the hay
is cut all that stubble looks ugly... and haying entails a lot of hard
labor. They had a large family who all did haying. We have a very
small family and none are into farming. The man who lived here killed
himself from all that haying, they found him collapsed in a field. He
was still alive but suffered a major coronary. They both had another
house built ten miles south of here on a small piece of land in hopes
he's quit haying. But after they moved in he was gone in six
months... Fred was very compulsive and refused to follow the doctor's
advice, his wife still lives there and we talk on the phone
occasionally and we exchange email. Fred never accepted computers, he
was a very stubborn Norwegian.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: May 28 11:35AM -0400

Sheldon Martin wrote:
> this virus thing it's smart to add UV to Central Air systems. The
> blower circulates all the air in the house but unless it calls for
> cool the blower motor automatically switches to half speed.
 
With this virus or not, would be good to actually open your
windows occasionally and get some fresh air. You live out
in the country. What's the problem?
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: May 28 08:51AM -0700

On Thursday, May 28, 2020 at 10:37:11 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
 
> With this virus or not, would be good to actually open your
> windows occasionally and get some fresh air. You live out
> in the country. What's the problem?
 
Maybe one of them has allergies? But if I'm not mistaken, correct me if
I'm wrong, but Sheldon does a lot of mowing so he's getting plenty of
'fresh air.' His wife golfs and rides her bike, so she's getting plenty
of 'fresh air' as well. They tend a garden, too, there's plenty of 'fresh
air' doing that outdoor activity.
GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: May 28 09:05AM -0700

Gary wrote:
 
 
> With this virus or not, would be good to actually open your
> windows occasionally and get some fresh air. You live out
> in the country. What's the problem?
 
 
I grew up in the country, and keeping the farmhouse clean was a real chore - in rural areas you have dust from the gravel roads, pollen, crop and other spraying, sometimes wood smoke, etc....OH, and you have smells from the adjacent livestock pastures/lots, can be pretty disgusting...at harvest lotsa shmutz in the air...Mom and the rest of us would have *really* enjoyed an air filtration system.
 
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Best
Greg
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: May 28 09:06AM -0700

On Thursday, May 28, 2020 at 11:37:11 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
 
> With this virus or not, would be good to actually open your
> windows occasionally and get some fresh air. You live out
> in the country. What's the problem?
 
Give us a break. Fresh country air isn't as fresh as you might
think. I don't live way out in the country, but between heat,
humidity, the cement plant 20 miles south of me, the occasional
farmer manuring his fields, diesel from the freeway about half
a mile west, and the neighbor burning brush and leaves, I'd rather
use air conditioning. (Luckily, the cement plant and manure are
only problems when the wind is from the south, which is unusual
here.) Plus, windows closed means less noise from the road.
There's this one motorcyclist who thinks "45 mph" is just a
suggestion and generally does about 70.
 
We're just about wrapping up the spring "windows open" season.
Come October it'll be worth opening them again, for about a
month.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: May 28 12:55PM -0400

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> here.) Plus, windows closed means less noise from the road.
> There's this one motorcyclist who thinks "45 mph" is just a
> suggestion and generally does about 70.
 
LOL. I also have a neighbor with a motorcycle who thinks
our street is for drag racing. Very little muffler and he
does love the loud sound at full throttle in neutral.
 
It's often frustrating to say a simple comment like
"open your windows for some fresh air" without including
a long story listing all the exceptions and disclaimers.
 
Naturally, open windows when conditions are right, not all
the time. I often keep mine closed during times of high pollen
or just the guy blowing leaves off the street and wind might
blow all that dust inside.
 
I can open my windows for only 10 minutes with a good wind and
preferably from the ocean. I have east and west openings and
get a nice crossbreeze. Open all for 5 minutes, then turn on
the central fan only to replace air in ducts then close up
the place again. All new fresh air.
 
Even on a very cold and windy day. Turn off heat, open all
windows and flush out the air briefly. Close windows, and
turn the heat back on. You lost all the warm air but all your
walls and furniture etc stayed warm. Only a few minutes to
reheat the new air.
 
 
> We're just about wrapping up the spring "windows open" season.
> Come October it'll be worth opening them again, for about a
> month.
 
So you also do what I do occasionally. We have no argument here.
graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: May 28 09:29AM -0600

On 2020-05-28 6:22 a.m., Gary wrote:
> everytime I see him on the news.
> Meanwhile, there's the wife behind him...
> She's probably praying that he loses the next election.
 
That's when she'll be able to get a good divorce settlement.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: May 28 11:52AM -0400


>>> Yeah, but she also wears makeup. Oh dear! ;)
 
>> That's Donald's problem, not mine.
 
> I don't think Donald has a problem with her wearing makeup at all.
 
As long as she stands off to the side and smiles he doesn't give a shit.
 
Jill
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: May 28 12:53PM -0400

graham wrote:
> > Meanwhile, there's the wife behind him...
> > She's probably praying that he loses the next election.
 
> That's when she'll be able to get a good divorce settlement.
 
I actually suspect that if he wins again, she'll divorce him.
She never looks happy. I don't think she enjoys being a
first lady and all the bad family attention.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: May 28 12:09PM -0400

On 2020-05-28 10:40 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
> It has to be marinated and then grilled or broiled to no more than
> medium rare and sliced very thinly across the grain.  Otherwise it's
> like chewing on leather shoelaces. ;)
 
My beef about... no pun intended.. is that I don't like to pay those
prices for meat that requires a lot of work, prep time and additional
ingredients, like wine, beer, broth, onions, carrots etc and hours of
cooking when I can pay a little more for a cut of meat that I can slap
on a pan for a couple minutes and it's done.
 
 
 
> Thanks for reminding me, I have ox tails in the freezer. :)
 
Mmmmmm. One of my favourites. When I was first married it used to cost
25-30 cents for a bag of oxtails that would be enough for two dinners
for two of us. Not it costs $15-20 to get enough to even bother cooking
them,
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: May 28 11:38AM -0400

On 5/28/2020 11:01 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
 
>> Jill
 
> We have that too but requires lighting the oven so it's a winter food.
> The one from the convenience store wasn't terrible and was faster
 
You keep saying you have to "light the oven". I don't understand that.
Even when I had a gas stove (circa 1983) I didn't have to "light it".
Then again, it wasn't coming from a propane tank I had to keep filled.
Natural gas lines ran directly to the apartment building, to the stove.
When I turned on the oven or the stovetop burners, I didn't have to
strike a match to light it. Turn it on and poof! There's the flame.
Instantaneous.
 
Anyway, you bought a cheap pizza at the convenience store and heated it
in their microwave, brought it home and expected it to taste good? Wow.
Microwaved pizza is always going to be crappy.
 
Back to the point: Newman's Own brand of food products is widely
available. Spaghetti sauces, pizzas, all sorts of foodstuffs.
 
Jill
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: May 28 11:49AM -0400


> If TOPS market stocks the frozen Newman's Own, try one of those. But it will
> require the use of your oven. Save it for winter though if you don't want to
> heat up the kitchen.
 
I don't know why he's so concerned about heating up the kitchen. He's
got AC. He never opens the windows to let fresh air in. 12-15 minutes
to bake a frozen pizza is a problem?
 
He's just bitching because he never heard of the Newman's Own brand. He
admittedly bought and heated in the microwave at the convenience store a
cheap crappy pizza. Can't say I've ever done that. If I had, I surely
wouldn't expect it to be good by the time I got it home. Sounds like it
would be a soggy steamed mess in a cardboard box.
 
Jill
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: May 28 11:51AM -0400

On 5/28/2020 11:12 AM, Gary wrote:
 
> The stores get them premade and frozen. If they cook one for
> you, it's just microwaved then boxed hot. You can also just
> ask for a frozen one to take home later and cook.
 
Don't have a 7-11 store around here but microwaved pizza sucks. Sheldon
is trying to compare convenience store nuked pizza with pizza you buy
and bake in the oven at home. No comparison. Oh, and he's never heard
of Newan's Own anything so of course it doesn't exist.
 
Jill
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: May 28 08:52AM -0700

On Thursday, May 28, 2020 at 11:38:44 AM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:

> When I turned on the oven or the stovetop burners, I didn't have to
> strike a match to light it. Turn it on and poof! There's the flame.
> Instantaneous.
 
You don't have to strike a match to light something. Flint and steel,
matches, electronic igniters, pilot lights, pure friction. There are a
lot of ways to light something.
 
Although the pilot light is a bit of a cheat, because it needs to be
lighted by one of those other means.
 
Cindy Hamilton
U.S. Janet B. <JB@nospam.com>: May 28 09:40AM -0600

On Thu, 28 May 2020 04:30:33 -0700 (PDT), me <lepin63580@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
>> Yes,
>> Janet US
 
>Can it be grown in a container to stop root spread, rather like mint?
 
yes and no. Horseradish is very deep rooted and needs to be grown in
something like a whiskey barrel or as Sheldon says a clay chimney flue
buried in the ground.
Janet US
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