Thursday, May 21, 2020

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 11 topics

Gary <g.majors@att.net>: May 21 02:19PM -0400

Sqwertz wrote:
> > way off.
 
> I think somebody here is completing with Sheldon for Biggest Load of
> Bullshit ever. Where do you keep it all in that tiny apartment?
 
You just embarrassed yourself with that clueless response.
You can do better than that.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: May 21 03:15PM -0400

On Thu, 21 May 2020 12:46:35 -0500, Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>
wrote:
 
>> Or they'd be named Canuck geese. LOL
 
>So the American Bald Eagle is not American either?
 
>-sw
 
That bird is scientifically a bald eagle, not an American bald
eagle... people familiarize it as American bald eagle only because it
was adopted as the National Bird of America... actually the same as I
adopted you as The Austin Dwarf.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/birds/b/bald-eagle/
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: May 21 03:17PM -0400

>> Bullshit ever. Where do you keep it all in that tiny apartment?
 
>You just embarrassed yourself with that clueless response.
>You can do better than that.
 
Truth is the Austin Dwarf lives in a tiny hovel.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: May 22 05:21AM +1000

On Thu, 21 May 2020 15:15:08 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>
wrote:
 
>eagle... people familiarize it as American bald eagle only because it
>was adopted as the National Bird of America... actually the same as I
>adopted you as The Austin Dwarf.
 
You two would make a cute couple, going to Disneyland together.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: May 21 03:07PM -0400

> On Saturday, May 16, 2020 at 6:43:24 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
 
>> the MO State Board of Nursing already examined my little infraction and decided on the LEAST strict of disciplines, CENSURE! Which means I can still practice as an RN. And I am a damned good pediatric nurse!
 
>> John Kuthe...
 
Your "little infraction" was ASSuming there was an adult parent in the
house without checking before leaving a bedridden child alone at the end
of your shift. Would it have been so difficult to knock on the bedroom
door and, not getting a response, open it? It is hardly a "little
infraction". But hey, go have another Cuppa Plus and forget about it.
 
> Right now your censure is the least of your worries. What they are reading
> are rantings, ravings, screaming, and cursing people out. Yep, you'll be
> hired to care for some helpless child. When elephants roost in trees.
 
FYI, I own a Ryobi *cordless* rechargeable leaf blower! Damn, why
didn't I think to crow about every time I use it? I'm missing out on a
huge opportunity to garner attention.
 
Jill
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: May 22 05:20AM +1000

On Thu, 21 May 2020 15:07:45 -0400, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
wrote:
 
>of your shift. Would it have been so difficult to knock on the bedroom
>door and, not getting a response, open it? It is hardly a "little
>infraction". But hey, go have another Cuppa Plus and forget about it.
 
Forget about it? It's the most talked about event in RFC.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: May 21 03:18PM -0400

On 5/14/2020 10:08 PM, cshenk wrote:
 
>> Jill
 
> Doesnt work with all cats. Vet told me tht then I said 'try it on this
> one'. He couldnt get it to work either.
 
Maybe not, but the vet also suggested hiding her pill in canned
water-packed tuna and she wouldn't eat that, either. She hated all
fishy type cat food. So much for "all cats love fish".
 
Jill
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: May 21 12:12PM -0700

On Thursday, May 21, 2020 at 10:12:15 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> And my plants out front are glad! :-)
 
> John Kuthe...
 
We had a day and a half of sun and now it's overcast again. My plants
are still glad. Plenty of photons coming through the clouds.
 
Saturday and Sunday will be partly cloudy, but followed by a week of rain.
I need to get out and fertilize my garlic.
 
More like April than May.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: May 22 05:17AM +1000

On Thu, 21 May 2020 12:12:28 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
 
>We had a day and a half of sun and now it's overcast again. My plants
>are still glad. Plenty of photons coming through the clouds.
 
>Saturday and Sunday will be partly cloudy, but followed by a week of rain.
 
Rain? Oh, you mean H2O giving in to the pull of gravity.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: May 21 02:24PM -0400

On 5/21/2020 1:43 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
 
>> Oh, I plan to have a glass of milk to go with it. :)
 
> Was it tall and ice cold?
 
> -sw
 
It was a fairly tall glass and of course ice cold. ;)
 
Jill
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: May 21 02:39PM -0400

jmcquown wrote:
 
> > Was it tall and ice cold?
 
> > -sw
 
> It was a fairly tall glass and of course ice cold. ;)
 
That description was in honor of our long dead
Andy Panda.
 
Haven't heard from Jebus in forever. Wonder if
he is ok?
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: May 21 02:52PM -0400

On 5/21/2020 2:39 PM, Gary wrote:
 
>> It was a fairly tall glass and of course ice cold. ;)
 
> That description was in honor of our long dead
> Andy Panda.
 
Uh, yeah, Andy Burns.
 
> Haven't heard from Jebus in forever. Wonder if
> he is ok?
 
Hopefully Jebus is enjoying life in Thailand and is too busy to think
about RFC.
 
I'm concerned about Nancy2. IIRC she was in her 80's and suddenly
stopped posting. :(
 
Jill
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: May 22 04:56AM +1000

On Thu, 21 May 2020 14:52:12 -0400, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
wrote:
 
 
>Uh, yeah, Andy Burns.
 
>> Haven't heard from Jebus in forever. Wonder if
>> he is ok?
 
I think if he was in Thailand he'd be showing us pictures of Thai food
and lady boys.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: May 21 01:55PM -0400


>> Lighten up, Steve. It's not a video recipe. It's about how to make a
>> clarinet out of a carrot!
 
>LOL. I just might have to take a look at that one. :)
 
Why, do you think it plays better than your skin flutes? LOL
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: May 21 02:41PM -0400

Sheldon Martin wrote :
> Why, do you think it plays better than your skin flutes? LOL
 
Why do you always faggot up threads in here, Shelley?
 
https://imgur.com/a/hFCN0 <--- LOL!
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: May 21 01:19PM -0400

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> On Thursday, May 21, 2020 at 8:03:57 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
 
> > - spray on (airbrushed) skin color
 
> Is that actually common? Shows how little I know.
 
I have no idea how common it is but I do see full face
crap on news women all the time. Not here in real life
often.
 
The commercials for that product is shown 50 times a day
on a few channels for many months now. One would think that
they must be selling lots as they continue to advertise
so often.
 
I dated a woman for years that always had her entire face
covered (but this was before the spray-on stuff). It was
pretty weird but I liked her and never said anything.
 
To me, yes full-face makeup looks nice from a distance
but get close and it's pretty creepy. And the bright
colored lipstick is strictly clown stuff and should
never be worn by women.
 
How would you women like to see some otherwise handsome
man wearing bright lipstick in a grocery store?
 
The only other people I know that do the mega makeup deal are
the dead ones that have an open casket (for viewing) funeral.
They all look like wax figures simulating the live person.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: May 21 01:51PM -0400


>The only other people I know that do the mega makeup deal are
>the dead ones that have an open casket (for viewing) funeral.
>They all look like wax figures simulating the live person.
 
Without heavy make up you'd not want to view someone who's been dead
for a week.
Then again many women are heavily made up because they have blemished
skin or are otherwise disfigured. Women may wear heavy make up for
the same reason some women wear heavily padded bras, or why Gary
stuffs gym socks in his shorts. Most women who are heavily made up do
not enjoy applying it or paying for it. People on TV or in movies
would look too grotesque in front of the cameras and all those bright
lights without make up. Something for Garry to consider is that most
women remove their make up and dim the lights before getting into
bed... not everyone is as perfect as Gary.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: May 21 02:22PM -0400

On 5/21/2020 1:51 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
>> never be worn by women.
 
>> How would you women like to see some otherwise handsome
>> man wearing bright lipstick in a grocery store?
 
Or blue? From the TV show 'Friends', Joey's famous commercial:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4F0UnnHFzM
 
Lipstick for men! BTW, men wearing makeup isn't new. It's been going
on for centuries.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_cosmetics
 
>> They all look like wax figures simulating the live person.
 
> Without heavy make up you'd not want to view someone who's been dead
> for a week.
 
Good thing I don't plan to view anyone who has been dead for a week. (I
never did understand the whole "viewing" thing anyway.)
 
> lights without make up. Something for Garry to consider is that most
> women remove their make up and dim the lights before getting into
> bed... not everyone is as perfect as Gary.
 
LOL and happy belated birthday, Sheldon!
 
Gary has a weird obsession about this. His biggest hangup seems to be
red lipstick. Frankly, I don't see many women wearing red or any really
bright shades of lipstick. Not even women in their 20's at the grocery
store.
 
I remember hearing on some talk show last year about actress Julia
Roberts being slammed for appearing in a video post on social media with
her daughter and <gasp> Julia wasn't wearing makeup! Oh, the calamity!
Cut the woman some slack, she was at home and didn't feel like putting
on makeup that day. The earth didn't tilt off its axis.
 
Jill
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: May 21 01:21PM -0500

Sqwertz wrote:
 
> Yeah, ingest some more cannabis products virtually guaranteeing you
> won't pass a drug test.
 
> -sw
 
Even if he passes drug testing, he will still not be hired. He's
too damn crazy to be a nurse ... even a cannabis nurse.
GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: May 21 11:19AM -0700

On Thursday, 21 May 2020 11:35:24 UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
 
> > ------------------------------
 
> > </>
 
> Is your employer aware your enjoyment of harassing/bullying people you think cannot defend themselves? Your years of nasty/evil behavior is laid out on the GG archives for all to review/investigate. My guess is that people are going to be checking you out. They will be appalled.
 
 
"Desiderata
 
GO PLACIDLY amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence. As far as possible, without surrender, be on good terms with all persons.
 
Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even to the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story.
 
Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexatious to the spirit. If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain or bitter, for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.
 
Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans. Keep interested in your own career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.
 
Exercise caution in your business affairs, for the world is full of trickery. But let this not blind you to what virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals, and everywhere life is full of heroism.
 
Be yourself. Especially do not feign affection. Neither be cynical about love; for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment, it is as perennial as the grass.
 
Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth.
 
Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.
 
Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here.
 
And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should. Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be. And whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life, keep peace in your soul. With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.
 
By Max Ehrmann © 1927..."
 
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GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: May 21 11:21AM -0700

dsi1 wrote:
 
 
> > Ho Lee Fuk.
 
> You might be surprised, squirts, to learn that I'm no pake - you, however, certainly qualify as a moron.
 
> OTOH, that's a pretty good joke. You can bet that I'm going to tell that to my chink friend.
 
 
Racist...!!!
 
--
Best
Greg
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: May 21 01:59PM -0400

I was talking (briefly) on the phone with a friend in my neighborhood.
He was just calling to ask how I'm doing.
 
He's 67 and very concerned about Covid-19. Rather than go to the
grocery store he used Instacart to place a grocery order with Publix for
delivery. (This is the friend who is a vegetarian but doesn't push it
as an agenda. He also doesn't cook.)
 
Was he ever disappointed! He got a 5 lb. bag of oranges and said half
of the oranges in the bag were rotten. He said the lettuce and other
fresh produce he ordered appeared to be the dregs... stuff the store
would have wound up discarding and writing off.
 
This sort of thing is the main reason I'm not interested in having some
random grocery store employee do my shopping for me.
 
Maybe some of you have used Instacart. If so, I hope you had a much
better experience with it. :)
 
Jill
GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: May 21 11:17AM -0700

On Thursday, 21 May 2020 12:59:39 UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
> random grocery store employee do my shopping for me.
 
> Maybe some of you have used Instacart. If so, I hope you had a much
> better experience with it. :)
 
From a local Chicago forum:
 
https://www.lthforum.com/bb/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=45591&sid=fe8da25c3fdd7d7761b44967518050a3
 
Instacart - I'm not sure what to think
 
ronnie_suburban
MODERATOR
JOINED MAY '04
HERE, THERE AND EVERYWHERE
16,454
POST #1 - MAY 13TH, 2020, 3:58 PM
Let's start with a brief round of free association . . .
 
any port in a storm (or pandemic)
good enough
a necessary evil
a genuine convenience
a non-essential luxury
 
Two months ago, I'd never even thought about them. But with the pandemic engulfing us, I decided to start an account and since then, I've placed a total of three orders at stores with which they are affiliated. Results have been mixed. I do prefer doing my own shopping but I'm trying to limit my trips to stores these days. On paper (or in pixels), Instacart fits into that plan pretty well. My experience is that the specific shopper on a given order has a profound effect on the overall results.
 
Most recently I placed an order with Costco via Instacart and I learned a few things. First of all, in addition to the line-item service fee that Instacart charges, they also upcharge on every single item. I learned this because my shopper inadvertently left the actual register receipt with our order. Apparently, this is a no-no. In any case, per the receipt, I was charged approximately 15% more for the items I received than what Costco charged my Instacart shopper. To be fair, the prices I paid matched the prices I agreed to pay when I added the items to my cart. But still, the fact that this pricing policy was not prominently shared bothered me a bit. I'm not sure if this just applies to Costco or to all the stores at which Instacart shops.
 
Another issue is that even though I provided very specific instructions about which items should and should not be substituted, my shopper ignored them without ever bothering to contact me. He brought me some horrible steaks, even though I specified no substitutions (more on this later). Previous Instacart experiences at Jewel and Target were also rough on the substitution front but at least in those cases, the shopper contacted me to ask a few questions about prospective substitutions. But still, they flat-out carted incorrect items in a few cases.
 
The most negative part about my most recent experience was the aftermath of dealing with the steaks I'd never ordered in the first place, for which I was charged. After an initial, frustrating online experience trying to contact Instacart about the error (do they even have a phone number?), I decided to address the dispute through my credit card company. All good, right? Not exactly. I later managed to have an online chat with a rep at Instacart who told me that they'd issue a credit for the never-ordered steaks. Fine. But no. A few days later I received an email from Instacart informing me that my account had been suspended because of the dispute I'd lodged with my credit card company. Wtf?!
 
I'm sorry, but your Instacart account has been put on hold. You disputed a charge for an order on May 4, 2020 for $45.16 on the card ending in xxxx, resulting in this hold. If this dispute was made in error, please follow up with your bank about it as soon as possible. Once you resolve the dispute, please send us a confirmation photo or screenshot for proof and we'll reinstate your account.
 
Please let us know if you have any other questions.
 
Best,
 
Instacart Trust and Safety Team
 
 
Wow! Talk about hardball. I'll admit that my first reaction was pretty much along these lines . . .
 
I'd just assumed that with the credit issued by Instacart, my dispute would automatically be resolved. Clearly, that wasn't the case. And Instacart was having none of it. I contacted my bank, "officially" withdrew my dispute and requested something in writing confirming it, which they provided. So now, with the "proof" having been sent to back to Instacart, I'll just have to wait for the wheels of justice to turn, lol. But I think the salient aspect here is that if you have problem with Instacart and you're unhappy with the manner/speed in which they resolve it, you have little or no recourse.
 
In 7+ weeks, I've placed 3 total orders with Instacart, so this is ultimately small potatoes, and not a necessity for us. But here I am, having had some problems with each of those 3 orders, and having a paid a premium for the privilege. I'm confident that they'll eventually re-instate my account but I think I'll be okay until they do. That said, looking down the road to the post-pandemic phase of our lives, I'm not sure Instacart and I are likely to have a rosy future together.
 
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Cathy2
MODERATOR
JOINED FEB '04
HIGHLAND PARK, IL
26,477
POST #2 - MAY 13TH, 2020, 4:20 PM
Hi,
 
I have a friend who spent two hours shopping an Instacart order. At delivery, this person learned it was delivered by someone else the day before.
 
Initially, they asked this person to return the food to the store. I remember commenting that was not going to fly. Especially since returned food is tossed. The store declined and now I see many stores have zero-return policy.
 
Eventually, Instacart paid for time spent and asked this person to keep the food.
 
***
 
On facebook, another Instacart person arrived with the food and nobody was home to accept it. Instacart told them to keep the food.
 
***
So clearly there is a lot of loss built into instacarts system.
 
Regards,
Cathy2
 
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bweiny
JOINED MAR '17
N. EVANSTON (SOUTH OF ISABELLA)
454
POST #3 - MAY 13TH, 2020, 5:18 PM
I think the business model is centered around the assumption/hope people will put up with the type of substitution errors Ronnie suffered. Of course they don't come out and say as much, but having to eat the cost of the errors is worse for them in the long run. They'd much rather lose a diligent customer than get in the habit of paying for errors.
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jlawrence01
JOINED JUN '04
2,932
POST #4 - MAY 13TH, 2020, 6:24 PM
In my area, there was some interest in Instacart at the beginning of the shutdown among some of my neighbors. However, that diminished very quickly when they were paying $5.49 for a loaf of Oroweat bread that lists for $3.99 (and is available at the outlet for $2.00).
 
Nearly everyone has converted to pick up service at Frys (Krogers) or Walmart. These programs charge no fees and people can pick up multiple orders for friends. Those programs have been so successful that Sprouts is starting to implement it this week. CVS is offering something similar also.
 
A lot of people are thinking about continuing to shop in this way after the pandemic is over. However, I am sure that all the retailers will be looking to charge for the service when things get back to normal.
 
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JOINED JAN '08
HIGHLAND PARK
 
POST #5 - MAY 13TH, 2020, 7:24 PM
And yet, for some Instacart is critical. I know someone who is extremely immuno - compromised and cannot risk he or his wife leaving the house. Since they are hesitant to rely on friends and
 
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WillG
JOINED MAY '04
NORTHERN BURBS
774
POST #19 - MAY 14TH, 2020, 3:52 PM
 
I have used instacart a few times from several different stores. They say that the pricing policy is determined by the store, which seems to make sense because they are so different. At Jewel you get sale prices on everything, bogo, etc (though I havent tried word of the day). At marianos, none of that. Everything at sunset was marked up, Heinens was regular pricing or sale price. It appears that Costco charges like you are a non-member. The only thing that makes no sense to me is that I have seen some of the shoppers receipts and they are not paying any markup, when I am. If the store was determining the policy wouldn't the store keep the extra? Perhaps instacart charges the stores a commission and the store decides whether to eat it or have the customer pay?
I have had a couple excellent shoppers, who texted about substitutions, sometimes with pictures. A couple others were ok but not great. Now that my wife is relaxing a bit, I am back doing my own shopping, but am still ordering instacart for my mom in cincinnati from krogers. No sale prices which drives her nuts. Might use it for myself from costco because I dont want to deal with going there..."
 
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Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: May 21 12:46PM -0500

On Wed, 20 May 2020 11:43:25 -0400, Sheldon Martin wrote:
 
> yoose PINHEADS who naturally know nothing... people with functioning
> brains know that Canada geese are NOT Canadians. DUH!
> Or they'd be named Canuck geese. LOL
 
So the American Bald Eagle is not American either?
 
-sw
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: May 21 01:04PM -0500

On Wed, 20 May 2020 07:19:41 -0400, Gary wrote:
 
> heh heh. You know this but I'll say it anyway -
> They all head north to above the arctic circle during
 
Where do they go 'above' the Arctic Circle? Do they just hover over
it all summer long, or do they every land anywhere?
 
> food and few predators. Since there are no trees, the
> predators (arctic fox mainly) can be spotted from a long
> way off.
 
I think somebody here is completing with Sheldon for Biggest Load of
Bullshit ever. Where do you keep it all in that tiny apartment?
 
-sw
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