Saturday, June 13, 2020

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 17 updates in 4 topics

Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jun 13 02:53PM -0400

On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 09:51:46 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>English by U.S. law. They quite often have the name of the
>food in English.
 
>Cindy Hamilton
 
You really ought to remove that thorny raspberry cane from your ass.
Asian market employees do absolutely nothing to help non Asians shop
their stores. Unlike you I don't buy pig penis pacifiers.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 13 12:24PM -0700

On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 2:53:10 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
 
> You really ought to remove that thorny raspberry cane from your ass.
> Asian market employees do absolutely nothing to help non Asians shop
> their stores.
 
I can see why they wouldn't help you. My experience is the opposite.
They're always willing to help me find what I'm looking for.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 14 05:33AM +1000

On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 09:51:46 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> https://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=Asian+Supermarket&find_loc=Albany%2C+NY
 
>"Fly Lice" isn't Asian. It's racist English for "I don't give
>a shit about non-white people's feelings."
 
Of course. Everything's racist these days. Your breathing is racist
because you breathe like a privileged white person! Racist!
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 14 05:33AM +1000

On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 11:01:02 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net"
 
>About 20 years ago there was an Asian market on my side of town and I stopped
>in to see what they had. I spent at least an hour in there just browsing
>and most everything was not in English. But I did find the ultra-tiny freeze-dried shrimp and freeze-dried cockroaches interesting.
 
Where the cockroaches intentional?
Bruce <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Jun 13 12:41PM -0700

Bruce wrote:
 
> >in to see what they had. I spent at least an hour in there just browsing
> >and most everything was not in English. But I did find the ultra-tiny freeze-dried shrimp and freeze-dried cockroaches interesting.
 
> Where the cockroaches intentional?
 
 
I am asking cuz I'm an *intentional* cockroach, lol!
 
;-P
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 13 12:49PM -0700

On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 2:33:54 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net> wrote:
 
> But I did find the ultra-tiny freeze-dried shrimp and freeze-dried cockroaches interesting.
 
> Where the cockroaches intentional?
 
Yes! They were packaged in a clear cellophane bag, each was almost like
they were in bubble wrap and quite distinguishable what they were. They
were packaged as a food item. There were many other strange 'food items'
but the tiny cockroaches stuck in my mind for some reason.
S Viemeister <firstname@lastname.oc.ku>: Jun 13 08:50PM +0100

On 6/13/2020 7:53 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
 
> You really ought to remove that thorny raspberry cane from your ass.
> Asian market employees do absolutely nothing to help non Asians shop
> their stores. Unlike you I don't buy pig penis pacifiers.
 
Maybe it's you. When I've shopped in Asian markets, I've always been
treated well.
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jun 13 11:54AM -0700

On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 1:05:59 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
 
> dsi1 only considers people with a particular ophthalmic characteristic
> as Asians. Not Turks, not Saudi Arabians, not Indians etc.
 
> This is quite remarkable in this period of anti-racist hysteria.
 
dsi1 feels that way because dsi1 is an American. Americans consider Turks and Saudi Arabians as being Middle Eastern, not Asians. They're not Middle Asians or Asians. I understand that Europeans and Bruce think differently.
 
A lot of American consider Indians to be Asian. The University of Hawaii of Hawaii has a extensive collection of Asian materials. On Saturdays, I used to have to open the library where the collection was stored and walked past long rows of books from India. It smelled of curry spices.
 
This has explained to you several times - don't expect me to explain it to you again. You're a knucklehead.
 
 
From Wikipedia:
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamilton_Library_(Hawaii)
 
Area Collections
Asia
The Asia Collection is the most significant collection of Asian materials in the State of Hawaii. It dates from 1920, when the University of Hawaii Board of Regents established the Japanese Department. The Oriental Institute was established in 1930 to support study of China, India and Japan. The East-West Center (EWC) acquired the vernacular language (CJK( materials of the Oriental Library in 1962. The Research Libraries of the EWC expanded the scope of Asia regional studies to include Korea and all countries in South and Southeast Asia. In 1970, the Asia Collection was transferred from the EWC back to the University of Hawaii Library. The collection has specialist librarian faculty for the following areas:
 
China
Materials related to China are integrated into the East (Chinese language) and Asia Collection (English & other western languages) of Hamilton Library.
 
Japan
Materials related to Japan are integrated into the East (Japanese language) and Asia Collection (English & other western languages) of Hamilton Library. The Japan Collection also holds a number of unique/rare collections housed in the Asia Special Collections room.[4]
 
Korea
Materials related to Korean studies are located in the East (한글(Hangul/Korean) and Asia Collection (English & other western languages) of Hamilton Library.
 
Okinawa
Materials are currently part of the Japan area studies. The Hawaii State Legislature established the Center for Okinawan Studies effective fiscal year 2008.[5] House Bill no. 1025 of the 2013 Hawaii State Legislature Relating to the Center for Okinawan Studies provided funding for a full-time Okinawan studies librarian position at the University of Hawaii at Manoa library.[6]
 
Philippines
The Philippine Collection at the University of Hawai'i is one of the largest Philippine collections in the United States. It has research and rare materials in various formats, integrated into the Asia Collection.
 
South Asia
The South Asia collection in Hamilton Library acquires materials published in South Asia through a cooperative Library of Congress acquisition program. Additional materials published outside of South Asia are also purchased. For this collection, the South Asia region includes Afghanistan, Bhutan, Bangladesh, India, Nepal, Pakistan, and Sri Lanka.
 
Southeast Asia
Materials related to Southeast Asia are integrated into the Asia Collection of Hamilton Library. The regions covered in the collection include: Brunei, Burma, Cambodia, Indonesia, Laos, Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand, Timor Lestem Vietnam
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 13 12:26PM -0700

On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 2:36:31 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > way to the Caucasus Mountains.
 
> > Cindy Hamilton
 
> I'll only talk about food and cultures that I know about. If you want to learn more about them, I suggest taking a trip to the library. If you're implying that you do posses the knowledge to give an overview of Asia in it's entirety, please feel free to post about it. I'm certainly not qualified. Who the heck is?
 
What I want is for you to stop saying "Asian" when you mean
"Chinese, Japanese, and Korean". Or, you can keep doing that
and look like an arrogant fool.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 14 05:35AM +1000

On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 12:26:58 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
 
>What I want is for you to stop saying "Asian" when you mean
>"Chinese, Japanese, and Korean". Or, you can keep doing that
>and look like an arrogant fool.
 
He clearly bases his use of the word Asian on people's eyes.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 14 05:43AM +1000

On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 11:54:23 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> as Asians. Not Turks, not Saudi Arabians, not Indians etc.
 
>> This is quite remarkable in this period of anti-racist hysteria.
 
>dsi1 feels that way because dsi1 is an American. Americans consider Turks and Saudi Arabians as being Middle Eastern, not Asians. They're not Middle Asians or Asians. I understand that Europeans and Bruce think differently.
 
Asia's a continent. If you live on the Asian continent, you're an
Asian. That's all you have to remember. I'm sure you can do it. Go
dsi1!
Bruce <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Jun 13 12:43PM -0700

Bruce wrote:
 
> >"Chinese, Japanese, and Korean". Or, you can keep doing that
> >and look like an arrogant fool.
 
> He clearly bases his use of the word Asian on people's eyes.
 
 
My mum's *vagina* was "slanted", lol!
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 13 11:57AM -0700

On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 1:31:34 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
 
> My guess is that most of these TV chefs aren't that great cooks. Mostly, they're wonderful television personalities. Ms. Child is important because she introduced a generation of American boomers to French style cooking. She did have her predecessors. I suppose Fanny Cradock would be the most well known in the UK. I can't say if Ms. Child is known in the UK or the rest of the world.
 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWoXQSfQkDg
 
Mrs. Child, not Ms., was certainly known in France where she lived for
several years and got her degree from the Le Cordon Bleu. Was she known
in other countries? I don't have a clue, but she was interested in cuisine
from all over the world and traveled to many countries to learn their food
and techniques.
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jun 13 12:24PM -0700

> in other countries? I don't have a clue, but she was interested in cuisine
> from all over the world and traveled to many countries to learn their food
> and techniques.
 
Are you implying that all an American has to do to be well-known in France is to live there and go to school - or is there something else you're not saying? My guess is that Josephine Baker was well known in France, Julia Child was not.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephine_Baker
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 14 05:26AM +1000

>and there. It was disturbing to watch.
 
>I know she was a great chef but that was too sad to watch.
>I'd love to see her in younger years on a cooking show.
 
It's called old age, Gary. Maybe TV programs with old people should
start with a warning so sensitive people can quickly change channels.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 14 05:29AM +1000

On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 11:57:47 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net"
>in other countries? I don't have a clue, but she was interested in cuisine
>from all over the world and traveled to many countries to learn their food
>and techniques.
 
In the 70s, for instance, the world wasn't a global village yet. Julia
Child wasn't known in my country.
 
By the way, I thought "Ms" was used when one doesn't want to specify
Mrs or Miss -like one also doesn't do with men- and is always
applicable.
Silvar Beitel <silverbeetle@charter.net>: Jun 13 12:08PM -0700

So a nexus of having a urge for sweets and wanting to crack open (at least once!) one of the many second-hand cookbooks I've accumulated but not really explored over the past few years led me to:
 
Salted Peanut Chews
 
from _Pillsbury Best Cookies Cookbook_ (1997)
 
Especially satisfying to a salt, sugar, and peanut junkie like me.
 
Recipe on-line here:
 
<https://www.pillsburybaking.com/recipes/salted-peanut-chews-2316>
 
as well as in these photos:
 
<https://photos.app.goo.gl/E3uXWumvSxDncnQ46>
 
--
Silvar Beitel
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