Wednesday, July 15, 2020

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 8 topics

Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Jul 15 05:47PM -0700

On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 4:44:44 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
 
> > I spray the large tomatoes with water, then sprinkle some of this on them to deter the squirrels. https://www.amazon.com/Laxmi-Ex-Hot-Chilli-Powder-Grams/dp/B076ZZBJYL
 
> > --Bryan
 
> The squirrels gotta eat too! They only take little bites!
 
They take one bite from each tomato. I don't care about the cherry tomatoes. There are zillions of those, but the one plant that produces slicing tomatoes, I protect.
 
--Bryan
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Jul 15 05:57PM -0700

On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 7:36:36 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
 
> >Good looking tomato. Do you have a weedeater?
 
> One schtinkin UNDER RIPE tomato obviously bought at Walmart... I don't
> see any tomato plant.
 
It is only a day or two under ripe, with cracks that indicate inconsistent watering. As a tomato grower, I can say that this is almost certainly homegrown. If he'd waited another day to ripen on the plant, it might have been damaged by squirrels.
 
--Bryan
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 16 11:01AM +1000

On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 20:36:32 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>
wrote:
 
 
>>Good looking tomato. Do you have a weedeater?
 
>One schtinkin UNDER RIPE tomato obviously bought at Walmart... I don't
>see any tomato plant.
 
In spite of a few imperfections, I'm sure it beats a supermarket
tomato hands down.
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jul 15 08:30PM -0500

Bryan Simmons wrote:
 
> They take one bite from each tomato. I don't care about the cherry tomatoes. There are zillions of those, but the one plant that produces slicing tomatoes, I protect.
 
>> John Kuthe...
 
> --Bryan
 
Your method won't work for him. When the student tenants come home
from beer parties, they piss on those gardens. That would wash off
your treatments.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jul 15 07:32PM -0700

On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 7:36:36 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
 
> >Good looking tomato. Do you have a weedeater?
 
> One schtinkin UNDER RIPE tomato obviously bought at Walmart... I don't
> see any tomato plant.
 
The tomato plant was in one of his other pictures. It was to the left of the
porch as you come up the sidewalk.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jul 15 07:33PM -0700

On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 8:01:47 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
 
> In spite of a few imperfections, I'm sure it beats a supermarket
> tomato hands down.
 
Here! Here!
"cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net>: Jul 15 08:10PM -0500

Sqwertz wrote:
 
 
> See? Even Carol agrees with me (now I've gota re-think my
> calculations.... ;-)
 
> -sw
 
The only way canned beans can come close for cost is if you try to
stovetop dry ones them then add cost of electricity. Most people are
smart enough to not use a stovetop method for long if they are even
*remotely* interested in cost won't use dried beans (other than
lentils) there. They test it or randomly make them.
 
It's easy to *start* with stovetop though and no slam if so.
 
My own interests lay more in not wasting energy resources.
 
Even today, your average crockpot cost per *day* (24 hours) is 25cents
but your stove top is 15cents per hour (gas, calculated with my local
rates). That works out as $3.60 for the stove at 24hrs vs 25cents.....
 
Sheldon may be looking at dried volume and wet volume and 'thinking' he
gets more?
"cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net>: Jul 15 08:21PM -0500

Sheldon Martin wrote:
 
 
> > Canned beans do not cost less than dried. Generally you spend 4x as
> > much for canned.
 
> That's because you buy those itty bitty 15 ounce cans.
 
https://www.amazon.com/TableTop-King-Light-Kidney-Beans/dp/B079DXY81V/ref=sr_1_22?dchild=1&keywords=%2310+can+beans&qid=1594817113&sr=8-22
> And Amazon prices are higher than the big box stores because they add
> in shipping
 
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Bush-s-Low-Sodium-Canned-Pinto-Beans-111-Oz-Can/166916952
> portions. We prefer refried black beans, (Belize style).
> I think cooking dried beans at home a big waste of time, and if they
> turn out over or under cooked you'll be wishing for a fantail.
 
No Sheldon, they STILL aren't cheaper in volume than volume dried.
 
You were on smaller ships so learned smaller cooking and cheats of
canned beans.
 
You didnt have *space* to cook dried beans while doing other stuff so
got canned in your stores then.
 
It's ok that you find cans work today when just feeding 2, but you
might need to know that a 16oz can has (on average) 3oz of dried bean
equal.
"cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net>: Jul 15 08:35PM -0500

> while reeking garlic? He eats those garlic potatoes daily so you
> know he simply reeks. Brushing teeth, flossing, and gargling is not
> going to erase that potent stench.
 
Umm, you are abnormally sensitive perhaps to garlic? Sorry but you
seem to be 'eek! He ate some garlic then treated patients' or
something?
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 16 11:41AM +1000


>Umm, you are abnormally sensitive perhaps to garlic? Sorry but you
>seem to be 'eek! He ate some garlic then treated patients' or
>something?
 
Yes, people who haven't eaten it or never eat it, may go 'Eek!'. How
can this be news to you?
"cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net>: Jul 15 08:52PM -0500

> pissed off because the bank is not open before 7:00 a.m. and then
> back home. No wonder you've never been near anyone who reeks of
> garlic, you're the only out besides the chickens so early in the day.
 
Try a little reality. Gary doesn't live in Podunk Iowa. He lives in
the largest city in the state surrounded by others who are 3-5th
largest.
 
Until Covid-19, all out main chain stores were 24/7.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jul 15 07:20PM -0700

On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 8:35:43 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
 
> Umm, you are abnormally sensitive perhaps to garlic? Sorry but you
> seem to be 'eek! He ate some garlic then treated patients' or
> something?
 
I am abnormally sensitive to people who eat it like it's candy and then want
to talk to me. Surely you've been around people who have eaten strong raw
onions and you want to get as far away from them as possible.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jul 15 07:28PM -0700

On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 8:52:32 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
> the largest city in the state surrounded by others who are 3-5th
> largest.
 
> Until Covid-19, all out main chain stores were 24/7.
 
Carol, wake up! Gary shops at the crack of dawn, always has, pandemic or
not. He's always bitched because the banks are not open at the crack of
dawn. He's always bitched because all stores are not open at 6:00 a.m.
whether it's a grocery store or not. And him living in the largest city
in the state has nothing to do with it. I live in the largest city in my
state and stores have always been open 24/7 until Covid-19 but I don't
gripe because I'm not being accommodated.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jul 15 09:31PM -0400

>too. I think it is a factor in preventing colds and the like as
>everything is so well cleaned with strong detergent and high temperatures.
 
>I run it every couple of days. Takes less than 5 minutes to empty
 
Even though dish washers have a sanitize cycle none actually sanitize,
especially when dishes are put in open cupboards that are not sanitary
and are open to common air... no home has a sterilized kitchen.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 16 11:43AM +1000

On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:31:51 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>
wrote:
 
 
>Even though dish washers have a sanitize cycle none actually sanitize,
>especially when dishes are put in open cupboards that are not sanitary
>and are open to common air... no home has a sterilized kitchen.
 
And no home needs a sterilised kitchen.
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jul 15 10:18PM -0400

On 7/15/2020 9:31 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
 
> Even though dish washers have a sanitize cycle none actually sanitize,
> especially when dishes are put in open cupboards that are not sanitary
> and are open to common air... no home has a sterilized kitchen.
 
Sterilized is different from sanitized. Food residue and people's use
of things can spread bacteria so you get rid of as much as possible
before putting a half dozen forks in the tray with the rest. Or the
plate you had the raw chicken on.
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jul 15 09:23PM -0500

Sheldon Martin wrote:
 
> Even though dish washers have a sanitize cycle none actually sanitize,
> especially when dishes are put in open cupboards that are not sanitary
> and are open to common air... no home has a sterilized kitchen.
 
What do yoose have, Popeye? An autoclave?
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jul 15 06:16PM -0700

On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 10:27:27 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
 
> >I went to see "Star Wars" with a friend and my wife. It must have been in 1977. We ate at a place by the University and talked about the movie. The owner of the place brought out a plate of nachos. He seemed quite proud that he had made it and I remember it being quite a large pile. The nachos were good and we agreed that "Star Wars" was going to change everything that came after it. It was a good evening, sitting out on the sidewalk in the balmy, tropical night.
 
> Just another blockbuster that I never want to see. More for kids than
> for adults.
 
Well okay, I'll buy that. When we saw that movie, we were of college age. I had graduated from college and the sense of freedom was delicious. You sir, are an old person. You ain't got no business going to see movies and eating out at night.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 16 11:21AM +1000

On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 18:16:32 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
 
>> Just another blockbuster that I never want to see. More for kids than
>> for adults.
 
>Well okay, I'll buy that. When we saw that movie, we were of college age. I had graduated from college and the sense of freedom was delicious. You sir, are an old person. You ain't got no business going to see movies and eating out at night.
 
I watch lots of good movies, including the occasional American one.
Just not blockbusters.
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jul 15 07:19PM -0700

On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 3:21:59 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
 
> >Well okay, I'll buy that. When we saw that movie, we were of college age. I had graduated from college and the sense of freedom was delicious. You sir, are an old person. You ain't got no business going to see movies and eating out at night.
 
> I watch lots of good movies, including the occasional American one.
> Just not blockbusters.
 
Here's one of my favorite American movies. The first time I saw it was when I was a kid. It blew my mind. It's not shown on the telly very often.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjxUtL5xdyE
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjxUtL5xdyE
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jul 15 06:01PM -0700

On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 6:34:04 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
 
> >John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist, Suburban Renewalist and Vegetarian
 
> It looks very nice and healthy. Congratulations.
> Janet US
 
Two YEARS worth of compost on top of lots of topsoil! Plus last years crop.
 
That's how Mother Gaia does it! I just help.
 
John Kuthe...
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jul 15 10:02PM -0400

On 7/15/2020 5:03 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
 
> Right:
 
> https://i.postimg.cc/SRq1SPxt/Garden-Right-7-15-2020.jpg
 
> John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist, Suburban Renewalist and Vegetarian
 
Damn, the basil looks terrific. You can start a pesto factory. The rest
has plenty of greenery but does it have the fruits?
 
If you have lots of greens and little fruit you may need phosphorous in
the soil. You can get free soil tests at agriculture schools and farm
bureau and the like.
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John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jul 15 06:04PM -0700

On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 7:37:52 PM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> Remember, "Who am I? Why am I here?" I revisited this NG after getting a 7 day ban from FB for insulting a dumbass. With all the faults of many folks who post here, the quality of writing on this NG doesn't grate on me. There are no stupid GIFs, nor rampant misspellings of homophones, and it's not just that we skew older, because the half brain dead oldsters on the nostalgia FB pages are as bad as the stupid, cutesy, twenty-something children.
 
> --Bryan
 
Facebook SUCKS! As does Google, and Amazon, Microsucks, and Apple!
 
ALL Surveillance Capitalists do! :-(
 
John Kuthe...
Mike Duffy <bogus@nosuch.com>: Jul 16 12:43AM

On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 19:31:46 -0400, Dave Smith wrote:
 
> The best part is that it is supposed to be part of a masters
> program..... trolling news groups through foodbanter. Yeah. right.
 
 
Ahh, but what if it's actually a thesis project on how the dynamics of a
group of Internet strangers eventually devolves into what can only be
described as a dysfunctional family?
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