Wednesday, August 12, 2020

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Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Aug 12 09:35AM -0400

On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 20:56:37 -0500, Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>
wrote:
 
 
>Why do you say 4 tablespoons of sugar and 1/4 cup of vinegar?
 
>This is a pet peeve on mine in recipes.
 
>-sw
 
Me too... should say sugar and vinegar to taste... same as s n' p to
taste. When I prepare food for others I skimp on the
dressings/seasonings and then let people adjust to their taste. I
really don't want someone dressing my salad, or sprinkling grated
cheese and hot pepper flakes on my pasta, same as I don't want anyone
creaming/sugaring my coffee.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Aug 12 06:49AM -0700

On Wednesday, August 12, 2020 at 9:35:57 AM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
> taste. When I prepare food for others I skimp on the
> dressings/seasonings and then let people adjust to their taste. I
> really don't want someone dressing my salad,
 
I disagree with you there. If the preparer knows what they're doing
and doesn't drown the salad in dressing, I'd prefer it properly tossed
to just having the dressing plopped on top.
 
> or sprinkling grated
> cheese and hot pepper flakes on my pasta,
 
I presume you eat pasta only with red sauce. It would be impossible to
prepare a proper Alfredo without adding the cheese in the kitchen.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Aug 12 12:24PM -0400

On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 06:49:25 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
 
>I disagree with you there. If the preparer knows what they're doing
>and doesn't drown the salad in dressing, I'd prefer it properly tossed
>to just having the dressing plopped on top.
 
Quality restaurants bring dressing for the diners to apply themselves,
even so-so restaurnats bring the dressing asked for or bring assorted
packets of dressings... you're obviously used to dinning in grade
school lunchrooms.
 
 
>I presume you eat pasta only with red sauce. It would be impossible to
>prepare a proper Alfredo without adding the cheese in the kitchen.
 
>Cindy Hamilton
 
We only eat pasta prepared at home, we are not about to pay those
outrageous prices for a pasta dish that costs about two dollars to
prepare at home. In fact last night's dinner was rotelle with
homemade red sauce and saw-seege and there's more than enough for
tonight. A one pound box of pasta costs a dollar or less, same price
for a large can of crushed tomatoes. To prepare pasta one only needs
to know how to boil water... only utter imbeciles pay those outrageous
prices to eat pasta out. Alfredo is nothing special only we don't
need all those useless calories. We had a nice salad too, from the
first head of savoy cabbage. The market in town has a sale on celery,
a big bunch 88¢ BOGO. Now what to do with all that celery, thinking
something Chinese, but no rush, celery can keep a while in the fridge.
Just picked 5 yellow crookneck squash and eggplant is coming in, got 6
long skinny Korean and one short fat Italian... stir fry with celery,
garlic, cabbage, bok choy, and young green beans.
"Ophelia" <Ophelia@Elsinore.invalid>: Aug 12 05:49PM +0100

"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
news:hc34jft75u3vnln68f30elp6jd82is5ken@4ax.com...
 
 
 
HOT GERMAN POTATO SALAD
Origin: Dorothy Glaeser
 
 
8 Slices of bacon, diced. Fry until done but not crispy. Remove from
the pan and drain
Keep 4 Tablespoons bacon fat in the pan.
Saute (in the bacon fat) until golden, one large onion, diced.
Add: 4 Tablespoons white sugar
2 Tablespoons white flour
1 teaspoon table salt
Add: ¼ cup white vinegar
1 ½ cups water
Stir over medium heat until smooth.
Use red skinned potatoes, about 3 pounds. Boil them whole until a
paring knife just pierces the potato. Peel and slice the potatoes. I
slice each potato into the sauce separately so that the potatoes don't
stick together.
Stir in the bacon.
Keep warm until service
 
Janet US
 
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Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Aug 12 12:44PM -0400

On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 08:23:26 -0400, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
wrote:
 
>ogling them like Kuthe clearly did. Have you forgotten his obsession
>with April, the bank teller?
 
>Jill
 
I'm positive that Jill can attract a mate a lot easier than Kootchie
and Garish can. Kootchie is already married to his Nordic and Garish
can't even attract a ferret. LOL
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Aug 12 09:54AM -0400

On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 23:44:50 -0700, Leo <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
 
 
>Sounds like the recently implemented American roundabout. No one knows which
>direction or lane I'll be traveling.
 
>leo
 
Most I've seen have an arrow indicating one way.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Aug 12 10:35AM -0400

On 2020-08-12 9:54 a.m., Sheldon Martin wrote:
>> direction or lane I'll be traveling.
 
>> leo
 
> Most I've seen have an arrow indicating one way.
 
 
It should not be too confusing about which way to go. The problem is
with the understanding or misunderstanding about right of way. Traffic
already in the circle had ROW. As long as everyone understands that,
traffic moves slowly. I was once following a car through the circle and
a the guy slammed on his brakes because there was a car coming from the
right. That was was required to yield to us, but the guy ahead of me
screwed things up. On the flip side, I was going through one town and
I was making a turn. I was almost all the way around when an oncoming
vehicle just about broadsided me. I don't know what she was thinking.
Even if I was a little further back I was already in the circle and had
ROW.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Aug 12 07:52AM -0700

On Wednesday, August 12, 2020 at 10:34:16 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> vehicle just about broadsided me. I don't know what she was thinking.
> Even if I was a little further back I was already in the circle and had
> ROW.
 
I had to laugh. Ann Arbor has been installing roundabouts. One of
them is at a very busy intersection where the senior citizens' recreation
center is located. It just seemed mean to me: to inflict that on a bunch
of old people who drove for 50-60 years without ever getting any practice
or experience navigating a roundabout.
 
The notion of installing a traffic control feature that relied on the
attentiveness and courtesy of American drivers also struck me as ironic.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Aug 12 12:03PM -0400

On 2020-08-12 10:52 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> center is located. It just seemed mean to me: to inflict that on a bunch
> of old people who drove for 50-60 years without ever getting any practice
> or experience navigating a roundabout.
 
That ranks up there with the first one in this area. It was built in the
nearby city of Welland, which has the worst drivers I have ever seen.
They are not particularly fast or aggressive. They don't know what lane
to drive in. Three quarters of the cars on four lane roads will be in
the left lane, and most of them will be doing the speed limit or less,
and the cars in the right lane will be passing them. When making a left
turn onto a four lane road they will head right across to the far right
lane and then usually readjust and move to the left lane, the one they
should have gone to in the first place before moving to the right.
 
When making a right turn onto a four lane road they will go to the left
lane.
 
When there is an intersection of two four lane roads and you have two
cars in opposing directions there is confusion no matter which way they
are turning. If N and S bound bars are both turning W, both should be
able to turn at the same time, N going to the nearest (left) lane and S
going to the nearest (right) lane. Nope. Each will be intent on going
to the far lane.
 
If that were just a two lane road and both were making left turns they
should both be able to go at the same time because they will be going in
opposite directions. For some reason, it turns into a Mexican standoff
with neither of them comfortable turning.
 
Those middle of the road turn lanes are a wonder to behold. They don't
seem to realize that the idea is to get into that centre lane ahead of
time. What most of them to is stay in the left traffic lane until they
get to their turn and then cut across at 90 degrees so that the back of
their car is in the left lane and they are stopped across the entire
turn lane.
 
It seemed really strange to me that they regional government would
choose the city with the worst drivers to get the first traffic circle.
 
 
> The notion of installing a traffic control feature that relied on the
> attentiveness and courtesy of American drivers also struck me as ironic.
 
They work well when people know how to use them and are a disaster where
people don't. I have been to Paris several times and always ended up at
some point at the Arc de Triomphe. There has always been at least one
fender bender there. Denmark, OTOH, has the most cautious and courteous
driver you will ever see. They have a lot of traffic circles and they
work very well. They have so many traffic circles they can get annoying.
When driving a long stretch of road with intersections traffic lights
offer the chance of synchronization, so you can move along and clear
every one on a green light. With the circles you have to slow down and
deal with every one of the them.
graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: Aug 12 10:36AM -0600

On 2020-08-12 10:03 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> offer the chance of synchronization, so you can move along and clear
> every one on a green light. With the circles you have to slow down and
> deal with every one of the them.
 
They've long been a feature of UK roads but a few years ago they
introduced "double circles" that are very confusing when you first
arrive at one.
graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: Aug 12 10:40AM -0600

On 2020-08-12 8:35 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> vehicle just about broadsided me. I don't know what she was thinking.
> Even if I was a little further back I was already in the circle and had
> ROW.
 
The city built one a few years ago at the exit to the TsuTina casino not
far from where I live. As I entered it an old guy was trying to go
clockwise, heading for me. He could see where he wanted to be and was
going to take the shortest route. I stopped (no choice) and forced him
to go the right way.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Aug 12 08:31AM -0400

On 8/11/2020 9:18 AM, Gary wrote:
> people and start a new reality show. I suspect he would get
> paid very well for "The Daily Adventures of John Kuthe."
 
> I would watch it. ;)
 
You already are.
 
Jill
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Aug 12 12:28PM -0400

On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 08:31:10 -0400, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
wrote:
 
 
>> I would watch it. ;)
 
>You already are.
 
>Jill
 
Gary is already a main player in the Kootchie Episodes. lol
marc.huizing@gmail.com: Aug 12 08:38AM -0700

On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 7:20:19 PM UTC-4, Sqwertz wrote:
> > Can pepper make food taste bitter after some time?
 
> Can you LEAVE this group FOREVER!
 
> GO AWAY!
 
RUDE ^^
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Aug 12 10:17AM -0400

> Thinking about replacing my aging impact-bonded cookware and ran across the Breville line. Any experiences with it? At the moment and probably for the foreseeable future I'll be using an electric stove.
 
> If not Breville what's a brand you favor?
 
> Thanks
 
Different things for different uses. Lodge cast iron, AllClad,
Farberware, couple of copper pans. Woll pan in my most used.
 
I buy pieces, not sets.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Aug 12 10:31AM -0400

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
 
> Different things for different uses. Lodge cast iron, AllClad,
> Farberware, couple of copper pans. Woll pan in my most used.
 
> I buy pieces, not sets.
 
Another rehashed subject but I have a few cast iron pans rarely
used. Most all of my cookware is RevereWare stainless steel with
the thin (and probably worthless) copper clad bottoms.
 
You learn to cook well with what you have.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Aug 12 07:48AM -0700

On Wednesday, August 12, 2020 at 10:30:32 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> used. Most all of my cookware is RevereWare stainless steel with
> the thin (and probably worthless) copper clad bottoms.
 
> You learn to cook well with what you have.
 
Sure, you can paint a house with a frayed twig. But good tools make
the job so much easier.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Aug 12 10:52AM -0400

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> > You learn to cook well with what you have.
 
> Sure, you can paint a house with a frayed twig. But good tools make
> the job so much easier.
 
Nothing wrong with RevereWare.
U.S. Janet B. <JB@nospam.com>: Aug 12 08:35AM -0600

>> > >I'll dust mine off and head for the boardwalk again.
 
>And on a cold, windy winter day there are very few people there.
>That's when the oceanfront is especially nice.
 
you're kidding, right? Boardwalks are no longer made of boards but
cement instead? You can tell I haven't been to Atlantic City or
elsewhere like that in a donkey's years.
Boardwalks in the national parks are still made of boards. At least
the national parks that I go to are still making them of boards.
Janet US
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Aug 12 10:50AM -0400

"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
> elsewhere like that in a donkey's years.
> Boardwalks in the national parks are still made of boards. At least
> the national parks that I go to are still making them of boards.
 
Still many boardwalks (wooden) available but many oceanfront ones
have switched to concrete. Rather than get destroyed by the ocean
during hurricanes, they act as seawalls and resist destruction
and erosion.
 
I'm sure there are some oceanfront ones too but not so much
these days. Mine is about 3 miles long and all concrete.
 
The few "walks" in my nearby state park are all wooden.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Aug 12 10:30AM -0400

>> flavors of SPAM are awful... the low salt/fat are disgusting.
 
>I like Spam occasionally but I buy the "25% Less Sodium" kind.
>It's still quite salty.
 
The low salt one has a slimey texture... like they sent it through a
blender. If I was to worry about salt I'd eat oatmeal instead. I
like my SPAM with lots of mustard so that adds more salt. I like
salty foods, I consider a can of anchovies a healthful snack. I enjoy
matjes herring too but it's not easy to find... and the price is
outrageous for what used to be the least expensive food. Now herring
is expensive because they were over fished. They used to sell herring
in tomato sauce in those flat oval cans but for years now it had to be
labled sardines in tomato sauce because it's no longer herring...
sardine is not a kind of fish, can be any small fish.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Aug 12 08:36AM -0400

On 8/11/2020 8:58 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> With sweet horseradish pickles, sous vide corn, and...
 
> https://i.postimg.cc/GtqZxrxP/Sandwich-Pull-Pork-Rib-Sweet-Horseradish-Pickles.jpg
 
> -sw
 
Looks tasty but sous vide corn on the cob? Why?
 
Jill
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Aug 12 09:49AM -0400

On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 19:58:29 -0500, Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>
wrote:
 
>With sweet horseradish pickles, sous vide corn, and...
 
>https://i.postimg.cc/GtqZxrxP/Sandwich-Pull-Pork-Rib-Sweet-Horseradish-Pickles.jpg
 
>-sw
 
Looks good but I'd prefer the pickles on the side, that reddish
dressing too... and I'd much prefer that roll toasted. The corn is
fine if served with dental floss.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Aug 12 09:39AM -0400

On 2020-08-12 2:53 a.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>> Doesn't seem like they're in short supply.  You can even get
>> contactless delivery of a new car right now - like a pizza. LOL
 
> Here too. They just aren't delivering any new ones so it's slim pickin's.
 
It's also the end of the model year. They are clearing out 2020 stock to
make room for the 2021 cars.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Aug 12 09:43AM -0400

On 2020-08-12 4:05 a.m., Leo wrote:
> were the worst idea ever.
> Canteens and tap water help the Earth. Having me transport tons of plastic
> water bottles to the Pacific Gyre hurts the Earth and costs me greatly.
 
We don't seem to have as much trouble with trashed water bottles as we
had a few years ago. For a while there, they were the single greatest
source of litter.
 
I don't even understand those small water bottles. I suppose they might
seem to be a safe source of water for travellers, but most places in
North America and Europe had pretty good tap water. The only time I had
really bad tap water was from a fountain at the Newark NJ airport. That
stuff was foul.
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