Sunday, January 17, 2021

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 9 topics

John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jan 18 07:33AM +1100

On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 06:26:53 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
 
>Hey now, you shouldn't insult Gary. You right-wingers need to stick together
 
>> Janet UK
 
>--Bryan
ALL right-wingers should be deplatformed from usenet. Who do we talk
to to make this happen?
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jan 17 12:49PM -0800


> >--Bryan
> ALL right-wingers should be deplatformed from usenet. Who do we talk
> to to make this happen?
 
So sorry you can't stand to hear opinions that don't square with your own.
Snowflake.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Master Bruce <masterbruce@null.null>: Jan 18 07:53AM +1100

On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 12:49:13 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> to to make this happen?
 
>So sorry you can't stand to hear opinions that don't square with your own.
>Snowflake.
 
I'm interested in right-wing opinions because I don't already have
them. But I can't take Trump supporters seriously.
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jan 18 06:58AM +1100

On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 10:47:32 -0000, "Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:
 
 
>===
 
> I have a killfile which I use a lot. Any idea how I can get into it to
>see?
 
Killfiles are for stupid LOSERS!
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Jan 17 12:14PM -0800

On Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 9:37:43 AM UTC-6, % wrote:
> > --Bryan
 
> how many other non-friends have you gone naked canoeing
> with?
 
I did not say that we weren't friends in the past. I can tell you
this, I've been naked around hundreds and hundreds of total
strangers. I'm a nudist.
 
--Bryan
"Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>: Jan 17 08:20PM

"Master Bruce" wrote in message
news:pm090gh1ub4prsi6pprmshnhmg1honr3mo@4ax.com...
 
On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 10:47:32 -0000, "Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:
 
 
>===
 
> I have a killfile which I use a lot. Any idea how I can get into it to
>see?
 
I don't know how Microsoft Windows Live Mail works. I've never used
it. In Agent I have "Usenet Filters" in the Tools menu. That shows my
filters. You'd need to look for something similar.
 
====
 
Hmmm maybe ...
 
Thank you!
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jan 17 12:35PM -0800

On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 1:41:25 PM UTC-6, Master Bruce wrote:
> >as that.
 
> I thought Ophelia sometimes mentions that she uses a killfile. So
> Windows Live Mail must have that then.
 
Not through Windows mail and she's not using Windows Live Mail even
though she might think she is. It is now Outlook mail.
Master Bruce <masterbruce@null.null>: Jan 18 07:44AM +1100

On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 12:35:33 -0800 (PST), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net"
>> Windows Live Mail must have that then.
 
>Not through Windows mail and she's not using Windows Live Mail even
>though she might think she is. It is now Outlook mail.
 
But Ophelia's headers say
"X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3538.513"
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Jan 17 12:52PM -0800

> I sure seemed to be your friend when I found you wandering around
> looking for Mr. Gormley Freshman English class that Summer School
> at Lindberg High School! 1975 was it?
 
You were a fellow pothead, and it was 1976. You are so sloppy these days.
Your posts are full of misspellings and such. Only a fool would allow you
to practice nursing. Your mind has been in decline for quite some time. We
were friends on and off for years. We are not now, and will never again be
friends.
 
--Bryan
Pamela <pamela.poster@gmail.com>: Jan 17 07:54PM

On 18:35 17 Jan 2021, Gary said:
 
 
> Tomorrow morning, I'm making an onion, potato, vegetable
> casserole. That one will be good. I'll make my own thickened
> chicken sauce to pour over that.
 
Bread pudding is so good. It's been a long time since I heard anyone
mention it. Now I must make some!
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: Jan 17 12:57PM -0700

On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 19:54:58 GMT, Pamela wrote:
 
>> chicken sauce to pour over that.
 
> Bread pudding is so good. It's been a long time since I heard anyone
> mention it. Now I must make some!
 
I like to make bread and butter pudding (I know it's different) with a
caramel base. I suppose one could do the same with a bread pudding.
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Jan 17 02:47PM -0600

On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 13:35:29 -0500, Gary wrote:
 
 
> Tomorrow morning, I'm making an onion, potato, vegetable casserole. That
> one will be good. I'll make my own thickened chicken sauce to pour over
> that.
 
Why not use chicken, too? And whwere's the garlic potatoes?
 
-sw
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jan 17 12:51PM -0800

On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 1:57:35 PM UTC-6, Graham wrote:
 
> I like to make bread and butter pudding (I know it's different) with a
> caramel base. I suppose one could do the same with a bread pudding.
 
I would probably be first in line to be served at your house if you
made this.
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jan 17 02:17PM -0600

Master Bruce wrote:
 
>>> Julie's gone.
 
>> Promise???????????????????????
 
> It's what she said. Now what? Double up on John?
 
You'll just have to double up smooching on his asshole master.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jan 17 12:38PM -0800

On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 1:39:52 PM UTC-6, Master Bruce wrote:
 
> >> Julie's gone.
 
> >Promise???????????????????????
 
> It's what she said. Now what? Double up on John?
 
The only way Ju-Ju will ever be t.r.u.l.y. gone is when one of her 'lovers'
strangles her to death. The draw to this group for the attention, negative
or otherwise, is too strong for her to pull the plug on us and never post here
again.
 
But hope springs eternal.
Master Bruce <masterbruce@null.null>: Jan 18 07:46AM +1100

On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 12:38:25 -0800 (PST), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net"
>or otherwise, is too strong for her to pull the plug on us and never post here
>again.
 
>But hope springs eternal.
 
Most of her posts are replies to the people who say they hate her
posts and attack her continuously, thus inspiring more posts from her.
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jan 18 07:00AM +1100

On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 18:01:20 -0600, Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>
wrote:
 
>> the woman was a heavy drinker. She was totally wrong on that. She was a
>> great sitter and worked for us for several years.
 
>Megatron doesn't have a built-in breathalyzer (and bottle opener)?
 
I have one. I DROPPED it on my amplifier and cracked the TOP. Stupid
chinese SHIT!
 
John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
Omni Vore <eats@every.thing>: Jan 17 12:43PM -0800

On 1/17/2021 12:00 PM, John KOOKthe wrote:
 
> I have
 
You have a pathetic need for attention because you can't get a life
outside of usenet, you worthless shitstain.
 
Fuck off, drop dead.
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: Jan 17 12:55PM -0700

On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 14:47:38 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:
 
>> canned food then?
 
> Just about everything was canned. Cooking usually involved opening at
> least a half dozen cans.
 
In N.America.
In the 70s, a visiting prof from the US hosted a party in London and when
asked for the recipe for a particular dish the English guests were taken
aback when she replied: "a can of w, 2 cans of x, a jar of y all mixed
together and poured over 2 cans of z"
I received a similar similar reply from a secretary when I was visiting our
Houston office.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jan 17 12:42PM -0800

On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 2:04:25 PM UTC-5, S Viemeister wrote:
 
> > I love hearing you codgers talk about the olden times. Was there
> > canned food then?
 
> Hmmph.
 
It was something of a joke. I'm not much younger than most people
here, but I grew up in the Detroit suburbs. Supermarkets, every family
had a car or three, a lot of kids had a phone extension in their bedrooms.
Color tv. Convenience foods like boxed cake mix. Delivered pizza.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jan 17 12:29PM -0800

On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 1:37:47 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
 
> eggplant does the veggie thing for me... thick slabs of grilled
> overgrown zukes with pasta sauce on a bun makes for more than an
> acceptable burger.
 
None of which have any protein to speak of.
 
I'd rather have falafel.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Master Bruce <masterbruce@null.null>: Jan 18 07:33AM +1100

On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 12:29:35 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> acceptable burger.
 
>None of which have any protein to speak of.
 
>I'd rather have falafel.
 
I've never thought to myself: "That was nice, but not enough protein".
"cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net>: Jan 17 02:12PM -0600

songbird wrote:
 
> > space hence more prepared foods with less effort hence less cooks.
 
> shudder ick.
 
> songbird
 
Chuckle, sometimes you just have to deal with months between supply
runs. Ships do get supplies run to them even at sea but you'll get one
long after out of fresh lettuce, tomatoes, fruits and such. You make
do with what you have.
 
For all of that, the chow on a modern ship is pretty much 3star now
with some ships running a pretty consistant 4star. No, I am not
joking. Sure, you might get some canned veggies in the mix (IE: regular
stuff folks at home eat). You might be eating a soup made with water
added to a premix of spices and barley and/or dried beans. Fresh
mushrooms only last so long so you may find reconstituted dry ones or
canned in places.
 
Consider the almost garbage the Army gets, Navy chow has always
exceeded all other branches when out in the fields/at sea.
 
Here's one you may not have thought of but is true. The quality level
for taste is optimized as well as health. That means you don't see
heinz/hunts tomato products or contadina now. Salt too high. Instead
it's Tuitarossa, Red/gold, Del Frattelli (sp) and so on. They taste
better and Navy cooks can work them into reduced sodium diets.
 
By 'prepared things' I mean they can store industrial sized containers
of Salsa.
 
You can't manage Vegan and proper nutrition but ovo-lacto vegetarians
won't have a problem on a bigger ship. You can't maintain Halal/Kosher
on a ship but you can easily avoid the most offensive items if not
picky about how it was butchered or who handled it in preparation.
 
In Sheldon's time, they didn't even try to accomodate for such but
today it is automatic.
 
Lets look at a typical day on the Essex? (My last ship, main mess
deck). Lunch was designed to be quicker to eat as most got only 45
mins off to go eat. Time in line was seldom more than 10 minutes.
Most would take 15 minutes to eat and have 20 minutes to go smoke or
whatever.
 
Always there:
- Rice, normally white, would vary with long grain and medium,
sometimes brown in a smaller rice maker.
- Beans, types varied as well as spicing but made from dried, had
warning if not vegetarian with what meat or meat fat was added
- a Spicy soup, often meat free with beans
- A mild soup, often a simple chicken noodle
- Salad bar with some 30 items plus 5-6 dressings
 
Variable per day but always 3 per meal:
- Peas
- Green beans
- Corn
- Carrots
- Cabbage
- Broccoli
- 'other' (Cauliflower, turnip, collard or mustard greens, spinach,
squash in summer yellow or green)
 
Variable but always 2 per meal
- Pasta or Potato
- Winter squash types
 
Variable but normally 3 per meal
- Beef (could be chilimac, taco meat for shells or soft wrappers, steak)
- Chicken (could be fried, pasta with chicken, baked, shredded as
alternative to beef tacos on that ship, spagetti and meatballs)
- Seafood option (Shrimp, baked fish portion, fried breaded, steamed
salmon was popular on that ship)
- Pork (shredded, breaded cutlets, pot roasted, oven BBQ ribs)
- Sausage such as kielbasa
 
Variable but always 2 per meal
- white bread (may be sliced or small buns, may be turned into garlic
bread)
- 'other' (Corn bread, wheat bread, rye bread sometimes)
 
Desserts Variable but normally 5-6 types
- This is where the 'prepared' kicks in but as the fresh pastries get
used up they still make cookies, cakes, pies from frozen fruits and so
on).
 
I know thats more than many here wanted to know about US Navy ship
cooking, but hopefully some find the reality to be interesting. It's
not a cruise ship, but it's actually quite good.
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jan 17 02:27PM -0600

cshenk wrote:
 
> I know thats more than many here wanted to know about US Navy ship
> cooking, but hopefully some find the reality to be interesting. It's
> not a cruise ship, but it's actually quite good.
 
No bacon for Popeye?
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jan 18 07:03AM +1100

On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 04:35:58 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
 
>Who?
 
>None of those people matter as much as you think they do.
 
>Cindy Hamilton
I bet your cunt stinks so bad, your neighbors have the EPA on speed
dial.
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