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| Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jan 08 04:04PM -0700 On Sat, 08 Jan 2022 17:53:06 -0500, Michael Trew >something like that "cool"... kids today who stare at a video game or >tablet all day, and don't go out except to go to school, are far closer >to "snowflakes", to use Cindy's terminology. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :))))))))))) -- This is NOT a post by Dave Smith |
| Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jan 08 04:04PM -0700 On Sat, 08 Jan 2022 17:50:10 -0500, Michael Trew >Now that you mention, that sounds vaguely familiar. That seems like >kind of a one-off situation. Many pets that we've had even fight off >collars, bandannas, etc. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :))))))))))) -- This is NOT a post by Dave Smith |
| Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jan 09 09:57AM +1100 On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 22:46:24 -0000 (UTC), heyjoe <this@is.invalid> wrote: >Thanks for being skeptical and checking things out. lol -- This is NOT a post by Dave Smith |
| Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jan 08 04:04PM -0700 On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 22:46:24 -0000 (UTC), heyjoe <this@is.invalid> wrote: >Couldn't find Message-ID: <srap0v$ohr$6@dont-email.me> on >eternal-september or AIOE, although it is available on neodome. >Thanks for being skeptical and checking things out. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :))))))))))) -- This is NOT a post by Dave Smith |
| GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Jan 08 02:39PM -0800 Michael Trew wrote: > I don't fight other people's battles for them. Ophelia has always been > nice to me, and until that changes, I have no reason to treat her > differently. You'll think that until she fucks with you - has happened to most all here... -- GM |
| Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>: Jan 08 04:44PM -0600 Michael Trew wrote: > I don't fight other people's battles for them. Ophelia has always > been nice to me, and until that changes, I have no reason to treat > her differently. Yes. She's very nice. But she isn't exactly as brilliant as more educated, intelligent people like Popeye, or master druce himself. I'm sure you've encountered people like her before. |
| Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jan 08 04:01PM -0700 On Sun, 09 Jan 2022 08:56:14 +1100, Dave Smith >especially compared to the RFC vultures. I think the vultures just >don't know how to deal with someone who's not like them. So they do >what they do best: bitch. Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe. This is my frogger. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :))))))))))) -- This is NOT a post by Dave Smith |
| Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jan 08 04:03PM -0700 On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 14:39:00 -0800 (PST), GM >> nice to me, and until that changes, I have no reason to treat her >> differently. >You'll think that until she fucks with you - has happened to most all here... Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :))))))))))) -- This is NOT a post by Dave Smith |
| Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jan 08 04:03PM -0700 On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 16:44:20 -0600, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote: >Yes. She's very nice. But she isn't exactly as brilliant as more >educated, intelligent people like Popeye, or master druce himself. >I'm sure you've encountered people like her before. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :))))))))))) -- This is NOT a post by Dave Smith |
| Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net>: Jan 08 05:33PM -0500 On 1/8/2022 6:52, Sheldon Martin wrote: > I like to drizzle Evap on vanilla ice cream, it freezes to a crust. > On a hot summer day I like ice cold buttermilk. > But I can't remember ever drinking a glass of regular milk. Evaporated milk? I always drink coffee black. Probably because that's how my paternal grandmother drank hers. She always had a coffee perk, smelled great. |
| Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net>: Jan 08 05:39PM -0500 On 1/8/2022 8:26, Bryan Simmons wrote: >>> Ick, I can't stand it, whole milk (that's all I buy, baking/cook) or not. > What do you not "understand"? That's as bogus as someone saying, > "I don't understand people who like broccoli." Sorry, let me rephrase. I can't stand the taste/texture of drinking plain cows milk. To each their own. >> I like to drizzle Evap on vanilla ice cream, it freezes to a crust. > Evaporated milk is TIAD if anything is. > --Bryan I use it if I run out of milk, I keep a couple cans in the pantry if I'm in a pinch. I used a can to make home made biscuits and the rest went into the milk gravy - I didn't have any fresh milk. Came out fine. |
| Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net>: Jan 08 10:41PM > could drink a glass of milk. It's probably equally hard for them to > understand why we would not enjoy it. When I was a kid I used to be > able to choke it down if there was chocolate powder in it. My Mom was lactose intolerant. She loved milk, but milk didn't love her and milk won. |
| Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jan 09 09:55AM +1100 On Sat, 08 Jan 2022 17:33:11 -0500, Michael Trew >Evaporated milk? >I always drink coffee black. Probably because that's how my paternal >grandmother drank hers. Cheaper. -- This is NOT a post by Dave Smith |
| Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jan 08 04:00PM -0700 On Sun, 09 Jan 2022 09:55:01 +1100, Dave Smith >>I always drink coffee black. Probably because that's how my paternal >>grandmother drank hers. >Cheaper. Can you go into more detail? I don't get it -- This is NOT a post by Dave Smith |
| Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jan 08 04:03PM -0700 On Sat, 08 Jan 2022 17:39:20 -0500, Michael Trew >I use it if I run out of milk, I keep a couple cans in the pantry if I'm >in a pinch. I used a can to make home made biscuits and the rest went >into the milk gravy - I didn't have any fresh milk. Came out fine. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :))))))))))) -- This is NOT a post by Dave Smith |
| Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jan 08 04:02PM -0700 On Sat, 08 Jan 2022 17:12:59 -0500, Michael Trew >Not for any environmental concerns, but simply because he was mad at >them... lol. In reality, they pull the meter if service is inactive for >1-2 years here. Same with electric and gas service. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :))))))))))) -- This is NOT a post by Dave Smith |
| Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jan 08 04:03PM -0700 On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 17:28:33 -0500, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote: >thing for him to crow about. Whoever gets his house will likely have to >pay to have the meter reinstalled if they want to cook with gas. >Jill Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :))))))))))) -- This is NOT a post by Dave Smith |
| GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Jan 08 02:56PM -0800 Michael Trew wrote: > yours... wow I'd have a blast driving around a '59 Lark wagon. So that > '48 Plymouth, you just abandoned on the street in PA when you left? I > would have tried to sell it, even if you only got a few bucks for it Interesting piece about the price of gas, some interesting charts - how much would you spend to fill up your old cars in the era when they were new...??? : https://www.curbsideclassic.com/automotive-histories/us-historic-gas-prices-gas-actually-wasnt-cheap-in-the-1950s-and-early-1960s-did-i-buy-the-cheapest-gas-ever-in-2001/ US Historic Gas Prices: Gas Actually Wasn't Cheap In The 1950s and Early 1960s – Did I Buy The Cheapest Gas Ever In 2001? BY PAUL NIEDERMEYER – POSTED ON JANUARY 8, 2022 Gas prices are up, obviously, the highest in seven years, in nominal terms (not inflation adjusted). There doesn't seem to be as much of a public reaction, in part because it's really not all that high (around $3.46 average in December). The average fuel economy of cars has been going up too, so the hit to the pocketbook is not that significant. Still, one all-too often hears about how cheap it was back in the good old days. How many comments have there been over the years about memories of 29 cent gas, as folks who were around back then fondly reminisced about those low gas prices. Obviously they forgot about inflation, as well as fuel economy. Twenty gallons of 30 cent gas in this '63 Pontiac cost $6.00 then, but that's $50 in 2020 dollars. And its 13 mpg mileage means that it was costing close to 20 cents per mile (2020 dollars) just in gas. A 2020 car getting 30 mpg would cost half that per mile, even at current high prices. And then there's the fact that this family man likely had more mouths to feed, other than the venturis on his 389 V8. Here's the full chart of gas prices, nominal and inflation adjusted (to 2020 dollars, which I'm going to use for the rest of my commentary, unless otherwise noted). If you want to see the year-by-year prices, both nominal and adjusted, as well as more commentary, here's where these are from. It does end a bit early, and doesn't show the run up since 2020. As we can see, gas started out quite expensive, at well over $4/gal. It came down in the 1920s, as the large oil companies saw improved efficiencies through scale and improved technology. It dropped again during the Depression in nominal terms, but actually increased in adjusted terms because of the deflation at the time. Between 1946 and 1962, it was in a fairly narrow range between $2.60 and $2.90 per gallon. Then there was a downward trend through 1972, in which year it bottomed (for the time being) at $2.22. Before we go further, a couple of things to consider. Actual purchasing power (income in relation to inflation) was of course considerably lower in the 1940s and 1950s, when it began to increase steadily with improved productivity and other factors. Gasoline was much higher proportion in income back then, which explains the popularity of six cylinder cars and the rapidly swelling influx of imports. Ever bigger cars with bigger engines, automatics and power accessories grew in popularity the same time the adjusted price of gas was declining (1962 – 1972) and peaked right at the time of that historic low (up to then) in 1972. Another factor to consider is the annual distance driven per year, which increased steadily throughout this whole period as the move to suburbs was on, big time. ....... That brings me to my question as to whether I once bought the cheapest gas ever (not counting loss-leader gas wars). Over the Dec. 2001 – Jan. 2002 holidays, we went to California, where gas prices are usually higher than in Oregon, and typically the highest in the country due to very high taxes. But they were quite low already in the Bay Area where we stayed first. The kids wanted to go to Disneyland, and in Anaheim, I started seeing sign for 99 cent gas. When I saw one for 98 cents, I decided to fill up and I made a point of telling the kids: You will never see gas this cheap again. (Those were nominal numbers; that adjusts to $1.47 in 2020 dollars) Someone in the comments recently questioned my memory of that, so I found this chart of monthly gas prices for the Southern California region: $1.02 in December of 2001. I don't remember why it was so cheap; US oil prices did hit a temporary low of $30.46 (2020 dollars) in November of 2001, but that was still almost 50% higher than the then all-time low of $20.44 in December of 1998. There must have been an excess in California refineries at the time; it was not a local "price war". It is fascinating to see how gas prices have tended to revert to the $2.86 mean for the overall period (1918-2020), despite significant fluctuations and increases in taxes, at least in some states..." </> |
| Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jan 08 04:03PM -0700 On Sat, 08 Jan 2022 17:27:29 -0500, Michael Trew >yours... wow I'd have a blast driving around a '59 Lark wagon. So that >'48 Plymouth, you just abandoned on the street in PA when you left? I >would have tried to sell it, even if you only got a few bucks for it Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :))))))))))) -- This is NOT a post by Dave Smith |
| Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jan 08 05:34PM -0500 >> John Kuthe, RN, BSN... > I thought you were rich! Rich!! RICH!!! > But here it is the 8th and no job as usual. I have not been keeping track very closely but it seems to me that it was a little more than a year ago that he talked about his first pedophile nursing gig with an agency. Since that time there have been a number of different agencies he has signed on with and at least a dozen assignments he has been referred to and a total of 4 or 5 days of work. |
| Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jan 08 04:03PM -0700 On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 14:24:52 -0800 (PST), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" >> John Kuthe, RN, BSN... >I thought you were rich! Rich!! RICH!!! >But here it is the 8th and no job as usual. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :))))))))))) -- This is NOT a post by Dave Smith |
| "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jan 08 03:02PM -0800 On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 4:21:13 PM UTC-6, Ophelia wrote: > > Turn off the lights at night and all the appliance wires glow in the > > dark. heh heh > Is that safe??? ↑ ↑ ↑ ↑ ↑ ↑ ↑ ↑ ↑ (Dunce) |
| Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jan 08 04:02PM -0700 On Sat, 08 Jan 2022 17:09:56 -0500, Michael Trew >not particularly happy about living that close to a nuclear plant, but >at least I don't live in hurricane alley, tornado valley, or earth >quake, CA. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :))))))))))) -- This is NOT a post by Dave Smith |
| Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jan 08 04:03PM -0700 On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 17:24:04 -0500, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote: >either that or get stuck working in the steel mill. None of them >returned to Ohio once they got out. >Jill Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :))))))))))) -- This is NOT a post by Dave Smith |
| Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jan 08 04:02PM -0700 On Sat, 08 Jan 2022 17:17:11 -0500, Michael Trew >That zipped by very quickly. Was it the bowl that looked dark brown >inside? It seems like an odd combination, but perhaps it tastes good. >I would have never thought of combining the two. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :))))))))))) -- This is NOT a post by Dave Smith |
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