Thursday, February 24, 2022

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Jeßus <j@j.net>: Feb 25 06:00AM +1100

On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 01:45:40 -0800 (PST), Thomas <canope234@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
 
>I think he finally figured out how to copy pics from his camera to his
>laptop and post them online
 
>Wait...that's me lol.
 
You guys are far from alone ;)
Jeßus <j@j.net>: Feb 25 05:59AM +1100

On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 00:13:03 -0800 (PST), GM
 
>Well, one is forming here in the states, out west and on to DC I hear...
 
>IIRC Hank lives out west, he could pick me up on the way out to DC...
 
>;-)
 
Why not? The more the better. I would have gone to Canberra for the
protests here, but were not on mainland Australia.
Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net>: Feb 24 01:47PM -0500

On 2/23/2022 4:47, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> foot.
 
> If I had a ton of money, I might buy my tile here:
> <https://www.pewabic.org/pages/architectural>
 
There is a retail store near Pittsburgh called "the tile shop". I
stopped in a few times, just for the fun of it. They had
mother-of-pearl tile, and good golly, was that expensive. I don't
remember the price, but it was substantially more than anything else in
the store. I can't find it on their website now.
 
https://www.tileshop.com/store-locator/robinson/
Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net>: Feb 24 01:53PM -0500

On 2/24/2022 9:05, GM wrote:
> when I was young, I once walked the entire length of West Berlin - AND I also climbed up
> to the top of the Washington Monument..."
 
> And it's not really a joke, I did do that, lol...
 
I'm not sure how high the Washington monument is, but I climbed the
tallest light house in the country a couple of years ago. As Ed said,
as I am now, I think nothing of the steps to the second floor of my
house, or the basement... or the walk up attic for that matter (until
it's time to carry boxes and boxes of Christmas stuff up two flights of
steps). That being said, that light house was really a work-out. The
tour guide type person said that in the old days, the light house keeper
carried oil up the steps EACH DAY, several times per day, to keep it
lit. They must have been in good shape. Otherwise, they probably had
lots of knee and back issues when finally retiring.
Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net>: Feb 24 01:57PM -0500

On 2/24/2022 7:59, Janet wrote:
> colour has to go NEXT".
> The green and the graffiti, were still there 10 years later...you
> can get used to anything.
 
Haha, that's true. The last house that I lived in with my family, my
bedroom had a tiny en-suite bathroom. It was done in the late 40's, and
it had tile on the floors and half-way up the walls, as well as the
shower, in cotton candy pink, with cotton candy blue trim. The rest of
the walls were floral wall paper. It took me a couple of years to strip
the wall paper, and when I finally painted, they miss-tinted the beige
paint, and it had a pink-ish hue to it. I eventually got used to having
a bathroom with pink walls, and pink tile.
Jeßus <j@j.net>: Feb 25 05:57AM +1100

On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 23:21:31 -0800 (PST), GM
 
>> https://ibb.co/album/n8DxGb
 
>A local friend of mine here in downstate Illinois is eager to get this. Glad
>it works well...
 
Still seems stable this morning, no issues. Our other satellite
service is still going, at least until mid next month but we will
cancel that, of course. No more data limitations but for me, the best
part is the portability of the system.
Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net>: Feb 24 01:29PM -0500

On 2/23/2022 11:26, dsi1 wrote:
>> Plus he lives on an old volcano.
 
> I actually live in the crater of an extinct volcano. Here's what that looks like.
 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/dMGBxqA3PPu8H7ACA
 
That's pretty cool; what a view! Hopefully, it stays extinct.
Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net>: Feb 24 01:37PM -0500

On 2/23/2022 10:57, Sheldon Martin wrote:
>About ten acres in the back are
> heavily wooded with mature hardwood. Lovely views:
> https://postimg.cc/gallery/kg1L0xw
 
Very nice views!
 
Land is cheap around here, even acreage in "city limits". I haven't put
much consideration into land in the township and beyond, but I'm always
looking at land up for Sheriff's sale in my county (for back taxes).
Sometimes acreage comes up. My step-father and I just bought a six car
garage on a half acre of land for $6k and change.
 
https://postimg.cc/gallery/KZVXcdG
 
Absolutely full of junk. The end goal is to have somewhere for some
storage and to work on vehicles, clearing them out of my back yard.
Next step is to bring in a dumpster and get the electric service turned on.
Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net>: Feb 24 01:42PM -0500

On 2/23/2022 3:53, joe wrote:
 
>>> Guffaw!
 
>> You're not even posting with a real e-mail address.
 
> neither is itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net.
 
I can't say, I've never tried to e-mail her. It was once a real e-mail
address, at the least.
joe <none@nospam.none>: Feb 24 01:49PM -0500

In article <sv8jhi$10u$2@dont-email.me>, michael.trew@att.net says...
 
> >> You're not even posting with a real e-mail address.
 
> > neither is itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net.
 
> I can't say, I've never tried to e-mail her.
 
I *can* say it's not a valid email address, does that also
bother you enough to point it out to her?
 
> It was once a real e-mail address, at the least.
 
Does that make you feel better?
Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net>: Feb 24 01:22PM -0500

On 2/23/2022 13:08, Sheldon Martin wrote:
 
>> Besides regular bagged coleslaw mix, there's broccoli mixes, and now various chopped
>> salad mixes, e.g. "Asian", etc., fun to mix them up...
 
> Yik!
 
Bagged mixes have always wigged me out. I've heard about recalls on
some of them. Easier, I'm sure, but I just stick to a head of lettuce,
cabbage, etc. I usually have carrots in the fridge, etc.
Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net>: Feb 24 01:23PM -0500

On 2/23/2022 13:06, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> markets were all harvested two weeks ago, not worth eating, not even
> good for kraut. There's a huge difference in the flavor of fresh
> picked and weeks old.
 
What do you do in the winter when you can't grow cabbage?
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Feb 24 01:47PM -0500

On 2022-02-24 1:22 p.m., Michael Trew wrote:
 
 
> Bagged mixes have always wigged me out.  I've heard about recalls on
> some of them.  Easier, I'm sure, but I just stick to a head of lettuce,
> cabbage, etc.  I usually have carrots in the fridge, etc.
 
Here is some food for thought. When you buy a bag of mixed salad greens
they come in a bag that has a lot of information about the source of the
contents and they can be traced back to a single plant and order a
recall. When people buy a head of lettuce or a bunch of bulk spinach
the information is harder to track. IMO the hazards of bagged greens
are a matter if traceability.
GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Feb 24 10:38AM -0800

Michael Trew wrote:
 
> today. The mostly plastic $12 box fans at Walmart now might last 5-6
> years, and they crap out. You get what you pay for; that's why I have
> old stuff; it seems to last forever.
 
 
Sure, but now we've a choice as to whether spend a few bucks for a product that
will "crap out" in a few years, or we can choose to spend more for better quality...
 
Back in the day, say c.1960, even a "cheap" percolator, for instance in today's dollars
was like around a hundred bucks. Now we can get a cheap coffee maker for ten bux or
so, it will do the job. Or you can spend hundreds for a "better" one, there is more
choice at all price points...
 
C. 1963 one of my fourth - grade classmates wanted to gift her mom a new waffle iron
for Christmas. She put a quarter or so every week in her Christmas Club account at
the bank, by Christmas she could afford it, but JEEZ, what a lot of work that was. The
waffle iron was "only" like $15.00, but that is about $137.00 today...
 
I get nostalgic about the "old daze", but when I think how materially "poor" even an average
working class person making a good wage was compared to today, I am jolted back to reality...
 
I LUV being able to get "cheap" stuff, all delivered with a click of my mouse. No more licking Green Stamps,
mooning over a cheap tape recorder that I knew I could never afford, having to endure baking
summers without A/C, limited travel opportunities, mom having to darn socks, stripper full - size cars
with a heater and radio the only options...
 
I'm in a classical record FB discussion group. I recalled how I use to buy my classical LP's in the late
60's from a famous mail order place in NYC, King Karol Records - I bet Sheldon remembers them! - the
bargain price was three stereo LP's (RCA, Columbia, London, Angel, DGG, Philips...) for $12.00, the list
price for those premium label LP's was $5.98. A guy remarked, "Wow, adjusted for inflation that 1968
$12.00 was $97.00...!!!" I thought about it and said, "Yeah, I had to mow about six or eight yards to
earn that twelve bucks, lol!"...
 
I eventually got a cheaper option for the records - the venerable Henry Stave & Co. in London UK. The
exchange rate was very favorable for the dollar against the pound, so I'd order my classical discs
from them, much cheaper. I'd send them a US Postal money order, and I'd get the records
about six weeks later, nicely sent in a *wooden* box, a handwritten note from the staff. We even
exchanged Christmas cards for a whiles, the staff were so kind and personable, even from
thousands of miles away. Was nice for an isolated Midwest farm kid like me...
 
So, materially - wise, I am blessed to live in 2022... and my music options are vast - and *vastly* cheaper...
 
But Henry Stave, alas, is no more. We need good record shops like this one was:
 
http://www.britishrecordshoparchive.org/henry-stave-and-company.html
 
"Name: Peter Mechen. Comment: Golly! Wonderful information concerning Henry Stave and
Company! To think I bought LPs from him to post to New Zealand for about six years and
didn't know anything of what Daphne Morgan has said - I simply assumed it was a kind of
efficient, faceless record shop with a mail order department. Henry Stave was VERY efficient
as well as being very kind, because he used to either replace or refund LP which weren't
perfect and which I set back to him (this was in the days when postage was cheap - nowadays
postage firms charge like wounded bulls!). I have the most pleasant memories of dealing
with Henry Stave, and most of the LPs in my collection dating from 1969 to 1975 come
from that shop! I finally got to London in 1994 and worked there as a teacher for a
year - sadly, when I went to No.9 Dean St. there was no sign of Henry Stave. I was so
disappointed! I wanted to thank someone - anybody! - who had perhaps been there
during my halcyon record-buying days for all the pleasure I'd got from those
packages of LPs sent to New Zealand! (June 18, 2017)..."
 
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joe <none@nospam.none>: Feb 24 01:29PM -0500

In article <1c8f9b03-3990-487c-8a5b-135ed445aa9dn@googlegroups.com>, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net says...
> Yes, I could just ignore our rich! Rich! RICH! incompetent poster but then
> neither you nor I would have anything to gripe about.
 
It appears you lack the self control for that, google-webtvtard.
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Feb 24 10:26AM -0800

On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 7:50:57 PM UTC-6, Occi Pital wrote:
 
> > And
 
> And you need to be beaten to death with a heavy-duty sledgehammer,
> KOOKthe. DIE!
 
I'd like to see a Major League slugger take a
home run swing at his head. Bits of brain
and skull would go flying, and a couple of
eyeballs too.
 
--Bryan
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Feb 24 10:22AM -0800

On Thursday, February 24, 2022 at 7:53:38 AM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
> > nicely, but they're a poor substitute.
 
> > --Bryan
> You have a very twisted mind, my friend.
 
I'm trying to imagine what it must be like to be
a dangling man, and all I can do is speculate.
 
--Bryan
bruce bowser <bruce2bowser@gmail.com>: Feb 24 10:21AM -0800

On Thursday, February 24, 2022 at 12:53:47 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > Regardless, I'll tape "Creature from the Black Lagoon", "Tarantula" and
> > "Invaders from Mars", the 1953 version, anytime I can find them.
> It checked out the trailer for "Unknown Island", that was some pretty audacious scenes. I can hardly believe that such a film exists. As far as "Invaders From Mars" goes, kids should not be allowed to see that movie until they're 17 years old.
 
Many of those images are now almost impossible to keep from kids. Mainly because they know all the fancy programming techniques. Isn't that ashamed? Many of the video games out here are appalling. Absolutely appaling.
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Feb 24 09:56AM -0800

On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 9:10:14 AM UTC-10, US Janet wrote:
> always like to see how others are using certain ingredients or methods
> of preparing. How about you?
> Janet US
 
Most recipes online exist only as bait for people to click on. They fill the insatiable need for content on the web. My guess is recipes are among the most compelling bait there is. A lot of them are fake recipes and most are recycled. Also popular are alarming articles on foods. My wife read an article on un-refrigerated rice and pasta being deadly poison and is now afraid of any foods that haven't been refrigerated. That's modern life for you.
Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@devnull.com>: Feb 24 06:18PM


> Most recipes online exist only as bait for people to click on. They fill
> the insatiable need for content on the web. My guess is recipes are among
> the most compelling bait there is. A lot of them are fake recipes and most
 
What constitutes a fake recipe?
 
> are recycled. Also popular are alarming articles on foods. My wife read an
 
There really are just so many ways to combine foods. Of course a lot of
them are recycled.
 
> article on un-refrigerated rice and pasta being deadly poison and is now
> afraid of any foods that haven't been refrigerated. That's modern life
> for you.
 
I'm not afraid of unrefrigerated foods. However, I see the risk and
don't see the reward in keeping spoilage-prone foods outside the fridge.
 
--
Cindy Hamilton
Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net>: Feb 24 01:15PM -0500

On 2/23/2022 21:38, Dave Smith wrote:
> paid the extra money for Mac computers and claim they are more user
> friendly, but they all seem a little technologically challenged, and
> none of them do anything to make use of the enhanced graphics capabilities.
 
I didn't mind working for Apple tech support when I took calls from the
Mac customers. They were usually people with money... entrepreneurs,
graphic designers, lots of writers, etc. Those people were more
mentally stable, patient, and pleasant than the people who called in for
help with an iPhone.
bruce bowser <bruce2bowser@gmail.com>: Feb 24 10:15AM -0800

On Thursday, February 24, 2022 at 11:04:57 AM UTC-5, odlayo wrote:
> On Thursday, February 24, 2022 at 9:41:01 AM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
> > A fritata is an omelet, not scrambled eggs.
> You are correct that a frittata is not scrambled eggs.
 
So what? Its also not egg foo young.
US Janet <USJanet@jan6noplace.com>: Feb 24 10:52AM -0700

On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 12:17:55 -0500, Michael Trew
 
>On 2/23/2022 18:22, Hank Rogers wrote:
>> Bryan Simmons wrote:
 
snip
>> the line they figured out how to prevent that. Haven't bit down on a
>> chunk of bone in 40 years.
 
>I actually have recently. Very unpleasant when you aren't expecting it.
 
I find it in ground pork frequently.
Janet US
US Janet <USJanet@jan6noplace.com>: Feb 24 10:53AM -0700

On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 12:17:18 -0500, Michael Trew
>> up a pot full. Usually, you'll see that little if any strings are there.
 
>It is rare to see a stringy bean, but I always still snap the ends off
>anyway. Out of habit? I guess it looks better without the end bits.
 
I snip the ends off because the thought of getting one of the pointy
ends stuck in my throat gags me. Shudder
Janet US
bruce bowser <bruce2bowser@gmail.com>: Feb 24 09:59AM -0800

On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 2:29:05 PM UTC-5, songbird wrote:
> the trait or someone has reintroduced the trait back into
> a seed line. it happens - there's many thousand different
> varieties of beans.
 
I hardly even care. I just open a can and cook it with sliced smoked sausage. I like how the smoky flavor is intensified.
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