Saturday, September 23, 2023

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 5 topics

songbird <songbird@anthive.com>: Sep 23 07:39PM -0400

bruce bowser wrote:
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> It almost makes you wonder how the best to live is ... own or rent a house? rent an apartment (where such costs are already baked-in)? Its a gamble, I tell ya.
 
i enjoy gardening so as long as i can do that i sure
don't want a condo or apartment living again.
 
 
songbird
Ed P <esp@snet.xxx>: Sep 23 08:11PM -0400

On 9/23/2023 4:32 PM, bruce bowser wrote:
>> pay this army over 600 bucks and they'll take care of it. I don't have the time to dick around
>> for them to put the wall back up so 600+ bucks it is.
 
> It almost makes you wonder how the best to live is ... own or rent a house? rent an apartment (where such costs are already baked-in)? Its a gamble, I tell ya.
 
 
Never lived in an apartment. Bought my first house when I was 20 a few
months before we got married.
 
Long before I retired, no rent, no mortgage, no beholding to someone
else. I guess renting is OK if you don't want responsibility.
GM <gregorymorrow@msn.com>: Sep 23 04:54PM -0700

On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 5:50:55 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > > I tend to look towards China for knowledge.
> > I can't agree who has more cooking knowledge ... the French or Chinese?
> How long has French cuisine been around? Chinese cuisine has been around for around 4,000 years so there you go.
 
 
Europeans were cultivating and enjoying pineapple 150 years before they were even *introduced* into Hawaii - by the Spanish...
 
"Spanish" = "European"
 
B-)
 
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GM
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Sep 23 04:57PM -0700

On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 12:37:41 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
 
> --
> Bruce
> <https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/keep-calm-and-in-bruce-we-trust.jpg>
 
Surely, you jest. I eat so much fish that I can swim around underwater for 20 minutes before coming up for air.
 
For lunch today, we had fish and chips. I think the fish was mahimahi, My daughter had fried calamari and a fish taco.
Yesterday I had some ahi sashimi and baby octopus, my daughter and wife had misoyaki butterfish.
Beats me how you guys could be so clueless. My guess is you guys are just getting too old.
 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/LM2cmtgBDSMCFhi17
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>: Sep 24 10:05AM +1000

On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 16:57:18 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
 
>For lunch today, we had fish and chips. I think the fish was mahimahi, My daughter had fried calamari and a fish taco.
>Yesterday I had some ahi sashimi and baby octopus, my daughter and wife had misoyaki butterfish.
>Beats me how you guys could be so clueless. My guess is you guys are just getting too old.
 
That's always a possibility. Maybe it's because I saw a recent picture
that looked as if you'd murdered a zoo. And pictures of pork and rice,
I believe.
 
>https://photos.app.goo.gl/LM2cmtgBDSMCFhi17
 
I'd like that or half of that.
 
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Bruce
<https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/keep-calm-and-in-bruce-we-trust.jpg>
"cshenk" <cshenk@virginia-beach.net>: Sep 24 12:05AM

Bruce wrote:
 
> over cured or fresh leaves of Camellia sinensis"
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea>
 
> But not in the US for some reason, and that's where she was.
 
Yes in the USA. We favor the black tea version. It's widely available.
"cshenk" <cshenk@virginia-beach.net>: Sep 24 12:06AM

Bruce wrote:
 
> > parts of Australia I have been to.
 
> I didn't mean to say it's literally a tart. But it's also not one
> pancake.
 
Of corse not. It was a stack!
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>: Sep 24 10:09AM +1000

On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 00:05:05 +0000, "cshenk"
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea>
 
>> But not in the US for some reason, and that's where she was.
 
>Yes in the USA. We favor the black tea version. It's widely available.
 
She didn't specify and got cold, sweetened stuff. The standard
apparently, at least there.
 
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Bruce
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songbird <songbird@anthive.com>: Sep 23 07:31PM -0400

Bruce wrote:
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> Good catch. You'd think AI could convert measurements correctly.
 
imperial gallon vs. american gallon...
 
 
songbird (liters make so much more sense...
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>: Sep 24 10:10AM +1000

On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 00:06:10 +0000, "cshenk"
 
>> I didn't mean to say it's literally a tart. But it's also not one
>> pancake.
 
>Of corse not. It was a stack!
 
Indeed it was. A stack of already thick pancakes, cut into
multi-storied wedges.
 
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Bruce
<https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/keep-calm-and-in-bruce-we-trust.jpg>
songbird <songbird@anthive.com>: Sep 23 07:30PM -0400

jmcquown wrote:
>> bottled water...
 
> Is this more of your humor? The beverage industry has been getting
> money from people for beverages of no nutritional value since the 1800's.
 
"yet another way" ...
 
 
songbird
songbird <songbird@anthive.com>: Sep 23 07:32PM -0400

Bruce wrote:
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> Why would you ask for sweet tea if you don't want it?
 
i knew what she meant... don't sweat it sweetheart.
 
 
songbird
songbird <songbird@anthive.com>: Sep 23 07:36PM -0400

Bruce wrote:
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> If you say something nobody has mentioned yet, you're a troll?
 
it's all just chattering.
 
 
songbird
Ed P <esp@snet.xxx>: Sep 23 07:45PM -0400

On 9/23/2023 4:23 PM, Bruce wrote:
 
>> Indeed, the boomers were raised with the idea that butter was unhealthy.
 
> Butter is unhealthy for people who have to watch their cholesterol. It
> depends on your genes. All saturated fat raises bad cholesterol.
 
But hydrogenated oil is not so good either.
 
I'm a tad older than a true boomer but my extended family always used
butter.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Sep 23 07:51PM -0400

On 9/23/2023 1:57 PM, cshenk wrote:
 
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/jKWXAZnmc1n761rM9
 
> I tried the mayo hack on a grilled cheese. Tossed it out, it was that
> bad.
 
Agreed. Mayo vs. butter on grilled cheese is a nonsensical comparison.
Mayo is made with egg yolks whisked with with oil, vinegar or lemon
juice. No relation to butter. Some people might like it but for me,
when it comes to grilled cheese sandwiches, only butter on the bread
will do.
 
Jill
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>: Sep 24 10:01AM +1000


>But hydrogenated oil is not so good either.
 
>I'm a tad older than a true boomer but my extended family always used
>butter.
 
I think olive oil is generally considered healthy.
 
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Bruce
<https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/keep-calm-and-in-bruce-we-trust.jpg>
songbird <songbird@anthive.com>: Sep 23 07:46PM -0400

cshenk wrote:
 
> https://www.theguardian.com/food/commentisfree/2023/sep/20/why-dont-americans-put-butter-on-their-sandwiches
 
>> Name one food that would be gross with Butter on it. Aha! :-)
 
> Ice cream
 
turn it into caramel or butter scotch and it's delicious.
 
 
songbird (there's more than one way to skin a cat
but i've never done any of them
songbird <songbird@anthive.com>: Sep 23 07:48PM -0400

Bruce wrote:
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> My glass is your glass.
 
imagine a world so full of people
that we all have to breathe out when
everyone else around us is breathing
in.
 
 
songbird
songbird <songbird@anthive.com>: Sep 23 08:09PM -0400

cshenk wrote:
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> And did a lot of canning of things.
 
yes! she also taught Mom how to cook and can
things. and Mom taught me how to cook and can
but i've gone way beyond what Mom would ever
attempt.
 
 
songbird
songbird <songbird@anthive.com>: Sep 23 08:00PM -0400

Bruce wrote:
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> sandwiches, such as mayonnaise, mustard, and ketchup. These condiments
> can provide the same moisture and flavor as butter, without making the
> bread soggy."
 
butter on bread makes it soggy? um, no... it
makes it slimy/greasy.
 
your "fried" is toast.
 
 
songbird
songbird <songbird@anthive.com>: Sep 23 08:04PM -0400

Ed P wrote:
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> Huh? I put a thin coating on the bread and it toasts up nice and even.
> Does not really taste like anything. Is it better than butter? No, but
> it is easy to get a nice even coating on the bread.
 
if you melt the butter in the pan then put the
bread on it then it has a nice even coating...
 
 
songbird
songbird <songbird@anthive.com>: Sep 23 08:02PM -0400

cshenk wrote:
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> Margarine on sale was 4lbs for 1$. Butter was 1$ a lb on sale.
 
> Mom preferred real butter but with 3 kids to feed on her own, there
> were tradeoffs that had to be made.
 
it was cost and for some time it was also
availability as butter wasn't always around.
 
with how much Mom baked margarine was always
in use. i do not normally use it now and we
primarily use butter for cooking other than
baking and some baking we now use butter and
don't bother with margarine as it has too much
water or just doesn't taste as good.
 
 
songbird
songbird <songbird@anthive.com>: Sep 23 08:06PM -0400

Bruce wrote:
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> You call our butter rancid and then call us snobby? Parbleu!
 
ah, this is a personal campaign... :)
 
considering i love bluecheeses of many kinds a bit
of slightly rancid tasting butter probably would not
be an issue. however, i also like yogurts and other
fermented dairy foods.
 
i've never tried KG. no plans to do it either, but
if someone has some i'd give it a try.
 
 
songbird
songbird <songbird@anthive.com>: Sep 23 07:24PM -0400

jmcquown wrote:
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> meals. If he can put it in the microwave and not have to do anything
> else he's fine with it. To him it's just food. I can't change that.
> Not my monkey, not my circus.
 
yep. sometimes it is just fuel.
 
 
songbird
songbird <songbird@anthive.com>: Sep 23 07:04PM -0400

Bruce wrote:
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> I don't see the problem with that either.
 
me either, chocolate malted milkshake used to be
common around here.
 
 
songbird
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