Wednesday, July 8, 2020

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Jeßus <j@j.net>: Jul 09 08:33AM +1000

On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 11:21:24 +0100, "Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:
 
>Apparently they have had it very hot and have been trying to sleep in 35c
>:(( They can't wait to get here:))
 
> I don't think she will be too disappointed, do you???? :)))
 
I'm sure they'll be glad to have a break from the hot weather. 35C is
hot for Gemerany... or at least it used to be. I enjoy our winters in
some ways, but I've also been away from the hot weather for too long
now and I miss it.
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jul 08 05:01PM -0500

Bruce wrote:
 
>> I can't say I miss steak at all -- even though I consider red meat to be
>> nutritionally important.
 
> I'm doing fine without any meat.
 
You get all you need from sniffing meat eater's alimentary canal.
Pamela <pamela.poster@gmail.com>: Jul 08 11:19PM +0100

On 22:42 8 Jul 2020, Bruce said:
 
 
>>On 17:43 8 Jul 2020, Cindy Hamilton said:
>>> On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 12:07:03 PM UTC-4, Pamela wrote:
 
>>>> Intersting account although I thought his need to sear meat to keep
in
 
>>I can't say I miss steak at all -- even though I consider red meat to be
>>nutritionally important.
 
> I'm doing fine without any meat.
 
Far too many veggies suffer decline after a few decades. No vitamin B12,
insufficient carnitine, not enough iron, too little zinc. It's not a
problem at first but after a decade the depletion can be a different
matter for some whose metabolism isn't 100%. I had to spend time helping a
friend recover herself from years of veggie eating (despite taking a multi
vit/min) -- not that she would consider meat but we slowly replenished
what had become depleted when she stayed with me.
 
Another veggie friend of mine has been veggie since childhood and shows no
problems with things like B12 inadequacy. She must be recycling it very
efficiently and perhaps it's creeping into her diet somewhere unknown. In
India it's been observed that faeces from crop fertilisation unexpectedly
provides useful amounts of B12 for vegetarians. Also my friend must be
manufacturing carnitine very effectively. I don't preach about her choice
but I'll help if needed.
 
This guy tried being a vegan but had to relent. As I recall he was telling
me by email that, for some reason, he found lamb particularly good
nutritionally. Go figure.
 
https://vegantroubleshooting.com/minerals.html
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 09 08:32AM +1000

On Wed, 08 Jul 2020 23:19:42 +0100, Pamela <pamela.poster@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
>friend recover herself from years of veggie eating (despite taking a multi
>vit/min) -- not that she would consider meat but we slowly replenished
>what had become depleted when she stayed with me.
 
Well, there you go. You fixed her up without the need for meat.
 
>provides useful amounts of B12 for vegetarians. Also my friend must be
>manufacturing carnitine very effectively. I don't preach about her choice
>but I'll help if needed.
 
I eat fish and a lot of our hens' eggs, so I'll be ok for B12.
 
>me by email that, for some reason, he found lamb particularly good
>nutritionally. Go figure.
 
>https://vegantroubleshooting.com/minerals.html
 
I'm sure that vegans, especially, need to do research and replace what
they're not getting from animal products.
graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: Jul 08 04:32PM -0600

On 2020-07-08 12:55 p.m., Snag wrote:
 
>   Are you referring to foul brood ? I've never had that in my hives nor
> have I heard of anyone in our area that has . AFAIK if your hives get
> infected you kill the bees and burn the equipment .
Yes, Foul Brood.
We used to feed ours a sulfa drug in the Spring (I think) but it's so
long ago that I can't remember if it was to prevent AFB.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 09 07:45AM +1000

On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 13:55:28 -0700 (PDT), Bruce
>> another chapter about your experiences with ophthalmologists.
 
>I see someone is forging my identity yet again, prolly squirtz I suspect
 
><sigh>
 
That wasn't me.
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jul 08 02:47PM -0700

On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 4:08:10 PM UTC-5, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
...
> brushing does NOT kill those volatile compounds found in onions and garlic.
> Nor does gargling with mouthwash after all the previous methods have been
> used after chowing down on garlic or onions.
 
Better than not!
 
And I have my next professional tooth cleaning Aug 19! I have the appt card taped up on my computer desk!
 
John Kuthe...
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 09 07:48AM +1000

On Wed, 08 Jul 2020 22:31:39 +0100, Pamela <pamela.poster@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
>getting desperate.
 
>http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=159424378200
>MID: <news:1tKKG.40935$d95.18779@fx06.iad>
 
Most of the posts that pretend to be me, are from Greg Sorrow. There's
a few I don't know the author of. I doubt that's Sqwertz.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jul 08 02:59PM -0700

On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 4:47:34 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
> > Nor does gargling with mouthwash after all the previous methods have been
> > used after chowing down on garlic or onions.
 
> Better than not!
 
Just don't get any closer than 10 feet to people as garlic breath is powerful
nose crinkling stuff.
 
> And I have my next professional tooth cleaning Aug 19! I have the appt card taped up on my computer desk!
 
> John Kuthe...
 
Are we supposed to congratulate you that you have a dental appointment or
are we supposed to congratulate you that you have it taped on your pc desk?
Not sure why you felt we needed that information. Just do the dentist and
the hygienist a great favor and lay off the garlic potatoes for at least
two days before you go in.
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Jul 08 05:03PM -0500

On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 09:10:25 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:
 
> beans and rice and a freshly killed bowl of chopped veggies on
> top! YUM!
 
> John Kuthe...
 
I'm sure some people want to strangle me, too.
 
-sw
Pamela <pamela.poster@gmail.com>: Jul 08 11:04PM +0100

On 22:48 8 Jul 2020, Bruce said:
>>MID: <news:1tKKG.40935$d95.18779@fx06.iad>
 
> Most of the posts that pretend to be me, are from Greg Sorrow. There's
> a few I don't know the author of. I doubt that's Sqwertz.
 
The one I mention is definitely Squirt, as I explain here:
 
http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=159424575900
MID: <news:ECC1B9A3CA45D4AM2@185.90.196.79>
 
He socked up and tried to swing the discussion.
Jeßus <j@j.net>: Jul 09 08:29AM +1000

On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 14:47:32 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>> used after chowing down on garlic or onions.
 
>Better than not!
 
>And I have my next professional tooth cleaning Aug 19! I have the appt card taped up on my computer desk!
 
Thanks for keeping us informed. My pen is sitting on our kitchen
table. Not sure where our tape is. Just FYI.
"cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net>: Jul 08 04:59PM -0500

Sheldon Martin wrote:
 
> eat good vittles but doesen't feel like cooking... all very well
> seasoned.... puts other canned foods to shame... great limas.
> https://margaretholmes.com/category/boiled-peanuts/
 
I've gotten the Limas too. Her brand is just about everyplace here.
"cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net>: Jul 08 04:39PM -0500

notbob wrote:
 
 
> I've "used" Circus brand "raw" peanuts (in the shell), but have never
> even seen a "green" peanut. Seriously! ;)
 
> nb
 
Baby peanuts I think are called that?
 
Anyways, we make them 3-4 times a year. I deliberately make a bigger
batch than we will eat right away and unshell the cooked ones then
freeze the meats for other things in smaller bags or just defrost and
eat cold as a snack.
"cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net>: Jul 08 05:27PM -0500

Daniel wrote:
 
> brewery. I was skeptical at first but man... They were good. There was
> something I liked about the softness of the nut. The saltiness came in
> second. It was a good experience. I will try this recipe.
 
Here's 2 variations I put in MM for the cooking echo.
 
Note Kikkoman Lite is now lower than Datu Puti in sodium but I wasn't
getting USA versions then. I don't know if it changed in the years
since, or the overseas Japan version was higher sodium.
 
Also see the time of cooking variations. Some like them more 'done'
than others. As long as you keep them soupy wet and the natural low
simmer of 'low' of a crockpot, 3 days is optimal but we start munching
a few at 24 hours. Others may cook them only 14 hours (higher setting)
but I found the salt or spices did not penetrate then.
 
 
MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

Title: Xxcarol's Boiled Peanuts
Categories: Xxcarol, Appetizers, Crockpot
Yield: 15 Servings

1 lb Peanuts in shell
1/4 c Salt
1 tb Red Pepper
Water to cover

I love munchies! These are perfect for a salty snack and are very
inexpensive to make. Take a bag of peanuts, still in the shells (raw
or can be roasted already, makes little difference) and fill the
crockpot to 3/4 full. Now, add water to 1 inch below brim (yes dear,
they float and as they cook down, this is the rare recipe you will
add water to!). Now, add 1/4 cup salt. Sounds like alot but you want
very salty water. (Option, you can use seawater like we do in costal
Georgia!). If you like a bit of 'spice' add a hot red pepper powder
of your choice to it.

Set crockpot on low. As it cooks the shells down, you will probably
need to add a little water. This process will take about 3 days til
they are 'just right' (Nutmeat soft and salty-spicey).

Stovetop version- set on lowest setting. Will cost more than crockpot
running and time is not reduced.

Pressure-cooker version- I found the results very disappointing (no
flavor to the peanuts) so dumped them in the crockpot for 3 days. ;-)

From the kitchen of: xxcarol Date: 10-19-00
Cooking

MMMMM

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

Title: Xxcarol's lower sodium peanuts
Categories: Xxcarol, Crockpot
Yield: 4 Servings

4 c Peanuts in the shell, raw
3 tb Datu Puti brand soy sauce
7 ea Cloves garlic
1 ts Red Korean chile powder

This is the first of a growing set with variations on how to make
'salt boiled peanuts' in a crockpot, which are sodium reduced enough
to allow a cup of peanuts in the shell for a day's serving on a
2,000mg sodium diet.

Place 4 cups of raw peanuts, still in shell, in a smallish crockpot
(one that holds 6 cups is perfect). Add the soy sauce and peeled
whole garlic cloves and chile powder to taste. The Soy here is a
brand called 'Datu Puti' and is about 1/2 the sodium of 'Kikkoman
lite'. The 'Korean Chile powder' is hard to obtain in some areas of
the world so to make a substitute, use 1/2 hot-sweet paprika and 1/2
cayenne pepper.

Add enough water to fill and place heavy glass lid on crockpot to
make them stay down. Run on low for 3 days. They will be edible
after 2 days but are much better 3rd day.

Alternative additions: Black fresh ground pepper, 1 TS suggested.

From the Sasebo Japan kitchen of: xxcarol 2SEP2006

MMMMM
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 09 07:44AM +1000

On Wed, 08 Jul 2020 22:37:33 +0100, Pamela <pamela.poster@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
>posted.
 
>For all John's faults, I expect his account would be more grounded than
>yours as you seem to be as high as a kite.
 
I thought Sqwertz' account was quite funny and likely correct. He then
proceeded to see a problem that didn't exist.
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Jul 08 04:57PM -0500

On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 11:23:29 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
 
 
>> You're as bad as Julie.
 
> Even with an explanation, you just have to play the victim. Have at it
> and enjoy yourself.
 
<yawn>
 
-sw
Pamela <pamela.poster@gmail.com>: Jul 08 11:06PM +0100

On 22:44 8 Jul 2020, Bruce said:
 
>>yours as you seem to be as high as a kite.
 
> I thought Sqwertz' account was quite funny and likely correct. He then
> proceeded to see a problem that didn't exist.
 
John Kuthe may have a somewhat selective interpretation of reality but
Squirt's self-aggrandising accounts are decidedly out of this world.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 09 07:49AM +1000

On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 13:57:03 -0700 (PDT), Thomas <canope234@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
 
>I would like a good chart.
 
>I see 1 cup is 8 oz times 28.35g equals 226.8
>I have been failing.
 
It depends one cup of what. One cup of lead or one cup of feathers?
Thomas <canope234@gmail.com>: Jul 08 02:50PM -0700

I have a good scale but when a recipe calls for 1 cup at a wierd number do i use a cup or their grams?
Thomas <canope234@gmail.com>: Jul 08 02:55PM -0700

Bruce, one cup ap flour. It is not apples oranges.
Just looking for a real baking chart that is not all over the place.
You do not bake.
I know bread flour is heavier than ap.
Pamela <pamela.poster@gmail.com>: Jul 08 11:01PM +0100

On 21:57 8 Jul 2020, Thomas said:
> All recipes.com says one cup dry is 128g
 
> Bread baking for beginners book says 225g
> Elements of pizza book says 225g
 
They both say (towards the end of each book), 1 cup is 240 ml.
 
 
> I would like a good chart.
 
> I see 1 cup is 8 oz times 28.35g equals 226.8
> I have been failing.
 
A cup measures volume. Those gram quantities are weights.
 
This equivalence will change depending on the ingredient.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 09 08:04AM +1000

On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 14:55:08 -0700 (PDT), Thomas <canope234@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
>Bruce, one cup ap flour. It is not apples oranges.
>Just looking for a real baking chart that is not all over the place.
>You do not bake.
 
I've baked more bread than most here.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Jul 08 05:53PM -0400

On 7/8/2020 5:10 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> plays at the best of time. Shakespeare is hard enough to read, but the
> earlier works covered were even harder to read because the language was
> quite different.
 
That's what Cliff's Notes were for. ;)
 
Jill
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jul 08 02:45PM -0700

On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 8:20:20 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
> and another:<https://postimg.cc/zVQGSXSH>
> and here's one in progress:<https://postimg.cc/XptnB14w>
 
> She also makes family facemasks. At least one of us does something ;)
 
Thanks for the pictures. I like the second one best but that's probably because I used to be a printer. Quilting is big on this rock. Mostly, it's done by the older generation. My guess is that it's some kind of thing that the missionaries taught because it was seen as a wholesome, activity that kept idle hands busy. The Hawaiian quilts are mostly based on plant motifs.
 
https://www.pinterest.com/quiltinspire/hawaiian-quilts/
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