Saturday, August 29, 2020

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 11 topics

U.S. Janet B. <JB@nospam.com>: Aug 29 11:01AM -0600

On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 03:15:07 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>in the function of the vehicle than its age or appearance. It's holding up well, and even if I pay $500-$1000
>a year fixing something, that's still cheaper than buying a new car.
 
>Cindy Hamilton
 
Ditto except a 1980 Ford 250. It works, why replace?
Janet US
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Aug 30 05:23AM +1000

On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 11:01:47 -0600, U.S. Janet B. <JB@nospam.com>
wrote:
 
>>a year fixing something, that's still cheaper than buying a new car.
 
>>Cindy Hamilton
 
>Ditto except a 1980 Ford 250. It works, why replace?
 
And I bet it looks much better than those shiny new cars.
U.S. Janet B. <JB@nospam.com>: Aug 29 11:05AM -0600

On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 03:50:11 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
<angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
snip
 
>Now, a nice curried turkey with a good blend of spices, including plenty
>of hot peppers--that appeals a lot more.
 
>Cindy Hamilton
 
Do you have a recipe to go with that tempting idea?
Janet US
U.S. Janet B. <JB@nospam.com>: Aug 29 11:09AM -0600

On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 19:44:31 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net"
>and let it soften in a covered bowl. Don't forget the egg salad will
>need a bit of salt when mixing.
 
>It's great for breakfast or lunch as a sandwich or on crackers.
 
I use the softened cream cheese to mix with a mix of chopped black and
green olives, some garlic powder and salt and pepper. Good however
you want to use it.
Janet US
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Aug 29 12:16PM -0500

Bruce wrote:
>> The main thing for me is not to use too much.
 
> Cloves in the US probably have added foam suppressant which also
> suppresses part of their flavour.
 
Yes, it goes much better with our industry tortured dead animal
dishes ... with gallon glasses of high fructose sweet tea.
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Aug 29 12:18PM -0500

Bruce wrote:
 
>> Now, a nice curried turkey with a good blend of spices, including plenty
>> of hot peppers--that appeals a lot more.
 
> But a factory turkey would be ok? Not a quality free-range bird?
 
It's still a dead turkey. But the lack of torture flavors makes it
unpalatable.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Aug 29 10:31AM -0700

On Saturday, August 29, 2020 at 1:05:30 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
 
> >Cindy Hamilton
> Do you have a recipe to go with that tempting idea?
> Janet US
 
Not really. I'd start with any chicken curry recipe that I like and simply use turkey.
 
But my husband would rebel. For him, it has to be traditional turkey, dressing, and gravy.
No bread sauce, though. I wonder why we kept so many other English foods but not
bread sauce (as it is a very old recipe).
 
Cindy Hamilton
U.S. Janet B. <JB@nospam.com>: Aug 29 12:08PM -0600

On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 10:31:05 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>No bread sauce, though. I wonder why we kept so many other English foods but not
>bread sauce (as it is a very old recipe).
 
>Cindy Hamilton
 
Since it is just the 2 of us, I don't make traditional turkey anymore
(maybe not even turkey) I think I will put your idea in the T day box
to maybe do with a turkey breast.
Janet US
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Aug 29 11:44AM -0700

On Saturday, August 29, 2020 at 2:08:16 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> (maybe not even turkey) I think I will put your idea in the T day box
> to maybe do with a turkey breast.
> Janet US
 
My husband loves turkey; we cook it every 2-3 months. I have to confess that quite
a bit of the breast meat ends up in the stock pot with the carcass. He likes dark
meat and I like white meat, but I don't like leftover turkey all that well. One or
two meals of leftovers is fine, but that doesn't even use up half the breast.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Aug 29 01:22PM -0400

On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 19:55:57 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net"
>> chopped mint or cilantro. Fold up the end and then toll them.
 
>> Pretty darned good.
 
>I like everything but that cilantro.
 
Cilantro tastes like soap to me and I detest mint in any form,
especially tooth paste. I'd have used parsley, curly leaf prefered.
I'd like to know what's "toll them".
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Aug 29 01:49PM -0400

On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 03:36:33 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
 
>> Pretty darned good.
 
>You can use mint _and_ cilantro if you have both.
 
>Cindy Hamilton
 
Mint _and_ cilantro belongs in my compost bin... parsley would work as
well and not turn my stomach. I like cucumbers and carrots but their
textures don't go well together, carrots are hard and dry, cukes are
tender and juicy, I'd likely use shredded cabbage, we have tons. And
rather than spinach I'd use Swiss chard, only because we have enough
to run the baler. With all the rain the past three days some of our
heirloom tomatoes (ox heart) have grown to over 2 pounds and split,
but still edible.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Aug 29 11:39AM -0700

On Saturday, August 29, 2020 at 1:49:47 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
 
> >Cindy Hamilton
> Mint _and_ cilantro belongs in my compost bin... parsley would work as
> well and not turn my stomach.
 
Luckily, I wasn't recommending it to _you_. Your preferences are irrelevant.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Aug 29 10:20AM -0700

On Saturday, August 29, 2020 at 12:39:17 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> or 'I have heard that'? When backed into and forced into a straight
> answer he leaves the stage.
> Janet US
 
I love it when he stomps off in a snit like an eight-year-old girl.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Aug 29 01:18PM -0500

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> Janet US
 
> I love it when he stomps off in a snit like an eight-year-old girl.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
And the very next day, he says everything is "incredible".
"cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net>: Aug 29 01:02PM -0500

For those with special dietary needs, this link is to the USDA and has
extensive information.
 
https://fdc.nal.usda.gov/fdc-app.html#/food-details/169404/nutrients
 
That one is for Gai-lan (aka Chinese Broccoli)
"cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net>: Aug 29 12:54PM -0500

Hi all, as I was making lunch, I realized this one is heart healthy.
 
One pot type meal, rice maker with steamer top inserted.
 
1c rice, white medium grain calrose
2c water scant 2 TB
1 broken up knorrs beef cube, can use 1/2 or a lower salt beef/pork type
1ts Vadouvan or other mid yellow curry blend
12 Lam Sheng Kee fishballs
1/2 broccoli, include 1/2 stem (more if fits steamer)
 
Turn rice maker on.
 
https://www.fda.gov/safety/recalls-market-withdrawals-safety-alerts/global-lamsheng-kee-inc-issues-allergy-alert-undeclared-egg-frozen-fish-tofu-frozen-fried-fish-ball
 
Oddly I can only get you a good picture of the fish balls with nutrient
information on a product recall page. It's the only known recall they
have ever had. Cross over of egg in some of them. I don't care as
eggs don't bother me at all.
 
My package is clearer. 8 balls per serving. 90 calories, 1g saturated
fat, 10mg cholestrol, 490mg sodium, 12g carb. The rice was posted
earlier at 91mg per serving. Broccoli will add very little sodium at
15mg per 1/2c.
 
If your limits are 1500mg sodium a day, reduced fat, and aiming to low
calorie, this is an optimal yet flavorful dish. In our case, each fish
ball is 61.2mg sodium and I will have 7 and Don will have 5. His meal
will be about 450mg total and mine will have a double serving of rice
so be more like 600mg sodium.
 
There's a lot that can be done with a simple rice maker with a steamer
top.
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Aug 29 10:46AM -0700

I don't know if any of you live in a place that has a Granite City brewery, but they've got a new beer tapping today, with $6 growler fills.
 
https://untappd.com/b/granite-city-sabro/3428621
 
--Bryan
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Aug 29 11:59AM -0500

John Kuthe wrote:
 
>> Unless you douse them with salt or sugar or saute them in trans fats.
 
> I use almost no sugar or trans fats, but salt is NOT a poison but a necessary nutritive component! And Gandhi led a Salt March to the Indian city of Dandi to evidence that the British should NOT place a tax on a naturally occurring substance! Gandhi made salt by the ocean and was promptly ARRESTED for not paying the UNFAIR British taxes on it!
 
> John Kuthe...
 
And he burned ZERO GASOLINE !!!!
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Aug 29 10:23AM -0700

> a puddle in his back yard and introduce some guppies and say he's a fish
> farmer. (sorry, I couldn't help myself!)
 
> Jill
 
He could turn Kuthe Creek into a trout stream. Could be problematic if
it doesn't rain for a while, though.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Pamela <pamela.poster@gmail.com>: Aug 29 06:27PM +0100

On 06:27 29 Aug 2020, Bruce said:
 
>>empathy for others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence lies
>>a fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism."
 
> Re-read that last sentence a few times, Sqwertz :)
 
The way Squirt quoted that shows he clearly doesn't believe it applies to
him. Amazing!
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Aug 29 01:05PM -0400


>> The even simpler fix is to unplug the refrigerator for a day and let the ice melt on its own. If it happens again, you probably need to replace your defroster heater. It's an easy enough job - if you like dicking around with appliances. It sounds like you do.
 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPJM0TCaQDg
 
>Simpler if you have a place to put the food and keep it cold.
 
When our kitchen fridge went on the fritz it was nice to have a fridge
in the basement until the appliance repair person arrived two days
later. We also bought a block of dry ice for our large ice chest, two
days later when the fridge was repaired everything was still frozen
solid. I remembered from when long ago I drove a Bungalow Bar ice
cream truck that kept the ice cream frozen for days with blocks of dry
ice in the attic... the trick to make the dry ice last longer was to
wrap it in several layers of newspaper.
 
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Aug 29 10:27AM -0700

On Saturday, August 29, 2020 at 4:42:45 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
 
> > Ours quit giving ice, so we bought a countertop ice maker. Stuff isn't made to be repaired anymore. We had two clothes washers quit working in the past 11 years, and the second one was a Samsung. Today, we're biting the bullet and buying a Speed Queen which will probably outlive both of us.
 
> > --Bryan
> We had a Samsung washer too. Well, it was an LG actually - same thing. That didn't last very long. Our dreams of an all Korean appliance home crashed and burned. Live and learn.
 
No more shitty appliances. Our dishwasher is an 11 year old Whirlpool that was one of their lower-mid priced ones. It has a few broken off tines, so it is probably near its end, and the replacement will be this. https://www.mieleusa.com/e/fully-integrated-full-size-dishwasher-g-4977-scvi-sf-am-stainless-steel-10778830-p Not a lot of fancy bells and whistles. Just durability.
 
--Bryan
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Aug 29 10:15AM -0700

On Saturday, August 29, 2020 at 10:34:18 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> > about trans fats.
> Going way back, wondering if Bryan still drives that barbie
> motor scooter?
 
Not Barbie, Blossom. I sold it for what I paid for it, and bought a 50cc scooter. I sold that for more than I paid for it, and bought one of these. https://www.motorcycle.com/specs/lance/scooter/2015/havana-classic/150.html It's not running right now because of a gas line issue, and it needed a new battery, which came a few days ago, so I hope to have it fixed in a few weeks. I've got another 125cc that I need to have serviced, then sell.
 
> And still use that nifty fan exhaust that he invented for
> his cat litter box?
 
The little fan is still keeping the room from smelling overly of cat box odors.
 
--Bryan
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Aug 29 10:18AM -0700

> Don't see anything wrong with the Pringles process.
> Unless some toxic glue is used to form the "chip".
> I got the Lays version of pulver.
 
The Lays version would be Stax?
 
Here's the ingredients for the Mesquite barbecue flavor:
 
Dried Potatoes, Vegetable Oil (Cottonseed, Sunflower, And/Or Corn Oil), Unmodified Potato Starch, Sugar, Rice Flour, And Less Than 2% Of The Following: Salt, Maltodextrin (Made From Corn), Mono- And Diglycerides, Dextrose, Soy Lecithin, Onion Powder, Monosodium Glutamate, Corn Syrup Solids, Tomato Powder, Hydrolyzed Corn Protein, Natural Flavor, Artificial Color (Yellow 6 Lake, Yellow 5 Lake, Blue 2 Lake), Malic Acid, Sodium Diacetate, Spice, Sodium Caseinate, Citric Acid, Disodium Inosinate, And Disodium Guanylate. Contains Milk and Soy Ingredients.
 
I think I rather just have fried potatoes:
 
Potatoes, Vegetable Oil (Sunflower, Corn and/or Canola Oil), and Salt.
 
That's Lay's plain old chips.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Aug 29 12:12PM -0500

Bruce wrote:
>> was more concerned with giving him a stable home which he would not
>> have had if he'd stayed around you.
 
> Wow, RFC has its own psychic!
 
And butt sniffer!
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