Tuesday, December 29, 2020

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"cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net>: Dec 29 07:17PM -0600

Julie Bove wrote:
 
 
> Soon it will all be a moot point as I highly doubt I'll put a news
> server on my new computer. And the day I take this one offline will
> be soon.
 
It has been pretty stupid on the questions.
Leo <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net>: Dec 29 05:19PM -0800

On 2020 Dec 29, , Gary wrote
> masks and stay home every chance you get. Not fair to blame him for the
> many deaths in this country. Even if he had done that...still so many
> idiots would have ignored the warnings just like they do now.
 
As much as the Democrat Party wanted President Trump to enact nationwide
executive orders regarding the social aspect of covid, he didn´t. Anyone
with a modicum of intelligence can either blame the whims of a previously
unknown virus or the governors and mayors in each state. Congress could have
enacted emergency laws. They didn´t.
Nobody wanted to touch covid legislation unless they felt they had to.
True science, something that moves slowly and methodically, is finally making
inroads. There´s a dim light at the end of the tunnel.
Social science, and all the other pseudo-sciences that drive politics, are
blindly fumbling forward, still not knowing sh*t but pretending that they do.
Politicians bleat their nonsense to people who know no better, just as the
politicians don´t.
I´m old. I wear a mask, wash my hands well after going to the grocery store
and social distance. Whether it works or not, it makes sense to me.
Master Bruce <masterbruce@null.null>: Dec 30 12:30PM +1100

On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 17:19:26 -0800, Leo <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
 
>politicians don´t.
>I´m old. I wear a mask, wash my hands well after going to the grocery store
>and social distance. Whether it works or not, it makes sense to me.
 
So you're smarter than your president. Next time, you might consider
voting for a president who's as smart as you.
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: Dec 29 06:40PM -0700

On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 16:27:51 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
 
 
> Drs. said he found that people were wearing worn out ones with holes or even
> poking holes in them so they could breathe better. I do wear them though.
> Not going to risk being punched or shot at.
 
GAWD! You really are incredibly stupid!!!! You really are QAninny fodder!
GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Dec 29 05:46PM -0800

Leo wrote:
> politicians don´t.
> I´m old. I wear a mask, wash my hands well after going to the grocery store
> and social distance. Whether it works or not, it makes sense to me.
 
 
Well said...
 
And as far as "blaming" for Covid deaths, we can start right off with the likes of NY Governor Cuomo, who has blood on his hands for his debacle of Covid patients in nursing homes...
 
This first link is from Pro Publica, a liberal group; the second link after is from a NY Times reporter, her father died in one of the NY nursing homes, her words are very powerful:
 
"ProPublica is a nonprofit newsroom that investigates abuses of power. Sign up to receive our biggest stories as soon as they're published..."
 
https://www.propublica.org/article/not-mentioned-in-cuomos-coronavirus-book-how-many-nursing-home-residents-died-in-new-york
 
Not Mentioned in Cuomo's Coronavirus Book: How Many Nursing Home Residents Died in New York
 
by Joe Sexton Oct. 23, 10:25 a.m. EDT
 
Cuomo's new book on leadership, published as the pandemic continues to ravage America, touts his willingness to speak hard truths about the pandemic. Why then has he still not said how many nursing home residents perished on his watch?
 
"New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo's latest book, "American Crisis: Leadership Lessons From the COVID-19 Pandemic," went on sale this month. Its publisher has hailed the governor's courageous honesty.
 
"Real leadership, he shows, requires clear communication, compassion for others, and a commitment to truth-telling — no matter how frightening the facts may be," one bit of advertising for the book reads.
 
Here's one hard truth Cuomo has still yet to tell: how many New York nursing home residents have died of COVID-19.
 
Nine months into the pandemic, and three months after his health commissioner testified that he was hard at work counting nursing home deaths, Cuomo has not announced the grim total.
 
"The governor has time, in the middle of a pandemic, to write a book on the COVID-19 crisis, but after months of delay he has not delivered on his word to provide the legislature with the accurate numbers of nursing home deaths," said Ron Kim, a Democratic state legislator from Queens. "As a result, we are squandering away an opportunity to demonstrate how his government can be there to respond to this crisis."
 
To date, Cuomo has only publicly acknowledged nursing home residents who died of COVID-19 inside their residences, some 6,500 people. While other states have all along combined those deaths with those of nursing home residents who died at hospitals, and made those totals public, New York has not.
 
...
 
The question of nursing home deaths has dogged Cuomo virtually since the outbreak of the pandemic. He announced that protecting the state's roughly 600 facilities was his top priority. But under a policy he enacted in late March, more than 6,400 patients sick with COVID-19 were sent from hospitals to nursing homes without being tested to see if they were still contagious.
 
The policy was adopted out of a fear that hospitals would become overwhelmed during the initial surge of infections and deaths. As a result, the policy allowed patients deemed "medically stable" to be sent to nursing home facilities.
 
The policy enraged families, home administrators, epidemiologists and politicians of both major parties. Historically, nursing homes have struggled to limit outbreaks of infectious disease, in part because they have large staffs that come and go and often work at other facilities. Admitting sick COVID-19 patients, to many, seemed a needless added risk.
 
....
 
He (Cuomo) writes that the state's efforts to better protect the homes were undermined by how widely the virus had spread even early on and how limited the state was in its ability to conduct aggressive testing of staff and residents. He writes that criticism of his performance on nursing homes was the organized and cynical work of Republicans looking to avoid accountability for their own failures in the face of the crisis.
 
In October, ProPublica asked the Health Department to account for the time the count was taking.
 
Cuomo, in his book, was as he has been in public — withering in his criticism of President Donald Trump and his administration. He portrays the administration as ignorant, incompetent, dishonest and more concerned with public relations spin than saving lives.
 
His administration was different.
 
"Donald Trump did not have the only microphone," Cuomo wrote. "I had one, too. And I had something else — credibility."
 
So far, Cuomo has not used that microphone to deliver the hard truth of the state's tragic loss of life..."
 
 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
 
https://www.propublica.org/article/coronavirus-entered-my-fathers-nursing-home-and-nobody-warned-me-i-did-not-get-the-chance-to-save-him
 
Coronavirus Entered My Father's Nursing Home and Nobody Warned Me. I Did Not Get the Chance to Save Him.
 
Reporter Jan Ransom's father was the fourth resident of his nursing home to get COVID-19. Nobody told her about the first, so she couldn't move him before he got sick. "I think that's very unfair," her father told her a week before he died.
 
by Jan Ransom for ProPublica April 21, 6 a.m. EDT
 
...
 
"...Shortly after being admitted to the hospital, he tested positive for COVID-19. Hours later, I called the nursing home to alert the staff. A nursing home staffer told me that my father was not the first resident to test positive. He was the fourth. I was stunned.
 
I'm a reporter for The New York Times and have been covering the pandemic's impact on New York City jails, including Rikers Island, and the state's prison system.
 
Other journalists at the Times and elsewhere have been writing about the toll the virus was taking on nursing homes, killing hundreds of residents and infecting thousands more. As I read those harrowing stories, my dad was never far from my thoughts.
 
After realizing my dad's nursing home had left me in the dark, I started to make some calls. I thought about my father's roommate and the families of other residents at the facility who were unaware of the storm brewing inside.
 
I was certain I should have been alerted that the virus had been detected in the home they shared. I was wrong.
 
When I called the state Department of Health to complain on my family's behalf, I was informed that nursing homes in New York — the epicenter of the crisis in the United States — were not obligated to tell families when the virus is detected in other residents.
 
"Guidelines require nursing home operators to notify a resident's family of illness, they do not require notification to relatives of other residents," a Department of Health spokesman later said in a statement.
 
That left me even more puzzled, and not just as a daughter but as a journalist. So I emailed the state asking if the agency was weighing whether to change the policy in response to the growing crisis..."
 
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jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Dec 29 08:57PM -0500

On 12/29/2020 7:54 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> two put in zero effort as far as I'm concerned. The last one started out
> well, giving me roses on our first date. If you can call it a date. We
> had to meet in the Central Market parking lot as so much is closed here.
 
Do you have any idea how that sounds? So much is closed there, you had
to meet some guy in the Central Market parking lot for your first date.
In the middle of a pandemic. And ooh, he brought supermarket roses!
 
> Would you continue on with a guy who dropped out of your life for three
> months, then came back said, "You're probably pretty mad at me..."
 
No.
 
> Or
> another who you haven't seen in person for two months, makes no effort
> to see you, but every 2-3 weeks, sends a "Wyd?" message.
 
No.
 
> They've had
> enough chances. Cat allergy guy is trying to get me back now. Nope.
> Don't need that.
 
I've had more than one man try to get back into my life. That was after
having had actual (in person) relationships that lasted several years.
Amicable break-ups. It sounds like you're bouncing around with online
guys trying to find someone to fill a vacancy.
 
> New guy made promises to me at the start and so far has kept all of them.
 
Promises? What kind of promises? It would never occur to me to ask for
promises at the start of a new relationship. I would, however, ask the
guy what kind of food he likes to eat.
 
> I know people here are going to make all sorts of things out of this.
> Nothing I can do about that. That's the way you are.
 
You put it out there, I replied. That's the way I am.
 
Jill
Leo <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net>: Dec 29 05:59PM -0800

On 2020 Dec 29, , Master Bruce wrote
 
> So you're smarter than your president. Next time, you might consider
> voting for a president who's as smart as you.
 
Good Lord Bruce, that would be impossible. Have you learned nothing under my
tutelage?
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Dec 29 09:09PM -0500

On 12/29/2020 8:19 PM, Leo wrote:
> I´m old. I wear a mask, wash my hands well after going to the grocery store
> and social distance. Whether it works or not, it makes sense to me.
 
Makes sense to me, too, Leo. Discussing politics and pointing political
fingers at this point is useless. Covid-19 doesn't care about the election.
 
Jill
Master Bruce <masterbruce@null.null>: Dec 30 01:11PM +1100

On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 21:09:23 -0500, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
wrote:
 
>> and social distance. Whether it works or not, it makes sense to me.
 
>Makes sense to me, too, Leo. Discussing politics and pointing political
>fingers at this point is useless. Covid-19 doesn't care about the election.
 
Nevertheless, at least in the US, right-wingers tend to be covid
spreaders.
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Dec 29 05:52PM -0800

On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 11:47:43 AM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
> I learned my lesson the first time. :)
> Some people just *need* someone. I've always been a loner and am fine
> just with my own company.
 
I know folks here think I'm mean anyway, but if I wasn't getting partner sex
pretty much every day, at least once, I'd be downright vicious. Heck, if I were
ever widowed, I could see marrying someone just for sexual compatibility,
and I don't have your aversion to *old ladies*. I feel very lucky to be blissfully
married, but I could have been happy without that. I "*need*" sex. It's
convenient that I have great companionship and affection with the same
person with whom I have great sex, but I'm a sex addict, and I have been since
I first had a real girlfriend, and even before.
 
I don't consider that to be a weakness because I figure that I'd always figure
out a way to get an adequate amount of sex without exploiting another
person. People are touch starved in general if they're not in a loving pair bond,
even if they don't know it, and awakening that often requires some effort, but
the rewards are so worth it. You just need to reframe your requirement of a
youthful appearance for sexual pleasure. Just turn out the light, turn on
whatever fantasies, and tune in to the sensations.
 
--Bryan
Master Bruce <masterbruce@null.null>: Dec 30 12:58PM +1100

On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 17:52:47 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
>> just with my own company.
 
>I know folks here think I'm mean anyway, but if I wasn't getting partner sex
>pretty much every day, at least once, I'd be downright vicious.
 
You're so edgy, Brian.
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Dec 29 08:11PM -0600

Bryan Simmons wrote:
> youthful appearance for sexual pleasure. Just turn out the light, turn on
> whatever fantasies, and tune in to the sensations.
 
> --Bryan
 
In the old days, folks just said "Put a brown paper sack over her
head"!
Lucretia Borgia <lucretiaborgia@fl.it>: Dec 29 09:12PM -0400

On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 15:17:48 -0800 (PST), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net"
>breakfast items were feasted upon. Mimosas as well as some
>other sort of alcoholic Christmas punch and coffee, too, were
>available to slurp on.
 
Glad you're back and that you had a good Christmas - JanetUS is also
missing due puter probs.
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Dec 29 07:14PM -0600

Sheldon Martin wrote:
> Welcome back, Joan... I really missed you... I wish we can have some
> Crystal Palace slurps together...
 
Hmm Popeye, yoose must figure she has enormous bosoms.
And loves the palace.
Leo <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net>: Dec 29 05:36PM -0800

On 2020 Dec 29, , itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote
> breakfast items were feasted upon. Mimosas as well as some
> other sort of alcoholic Christmas punch and coffee, too, were
> available to slurp on.
 
Yay! In addition to covid, Nashville has had a hell of a year. I worried
about the tornadoes. I wasn´t worried about you and the current
disaster.
Master Bruce <masterbruce@null.null>: Dec 30 12:38PM +1100

On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 17:36:20 -0800, Leo <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
 
 
>Yay! In addition to covid, Nashville has had a hell of a year. I worried
>about the tornadoes. I wasn´t worried about you and the current
>disaster.
 
At least you missed her. That counts too.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Dec 29 06:11PM -0800

Thanks ALL! I missed the gang and glad to be back!! Also glad I had
some computer games I could play when I got bored with TV. :o)
 
I was fortunate the tornado missed me by 3 blocks but the Christmas
morning explosion about tossed me out of the bed. Let's hope the
New Year will be better for everyone.
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: Dec 29 06:49PM -0700

On 2020-12-29 6:28 a.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
>> kits are available from the UK.
 
> You've talented hands, Graham, and if you can resurrect that Kenwood,
> it'd be a real delight with all the baking you do.
 
I'm a terrible procrastinator. I've a pair of Kef loudspeakers in the
basement that have needed new crossovers for the last 25 years or so. I
could get them from the UK but haven't got around to it:-)
In my profession, I'm the opposite and have made decisions in minutes
that have affected multi-million dollar drilling programs. Perhaps my
procrastination is in reaction to this.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Dec 29 06:03PM -0800

On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 6:08:04 PM UTC-6, Leo wrote:
 
> And not a soul in this thread has mentioned a Sunbeam Mixmaster. That´s
> what my Mom used while I was growing up. Even I don´t have one, but I think
> of all these eggbeaters as Mixmasters.
 
My mom had a Hamilton Beach stand mixer and I believe she got it with either
Top Value or S&H green stamps. She was very proud of that thing and very
'protective' of it. She wouldn't let us kids monkey around with it in fear of
breaking either of the included bowls.
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Dec 29 07:16PM -0600

Master Bruce wrote:
 
> It's going to be interesting in 4 years. Will Americans, in their
> understandable dislike of regular politicians, vote for a clown again?
> And will it be an evil clown again?
 
And will you still be here, sniffing asses?
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Dec 29 08:28PM -0500

On 12/29/2020 7:53 PM, Master Bruce wrote:
 
 
> It's going to be interesting in 4 years. Will Americans, in their
> understandable dislike of regular politicians, vote for a clown again?
> And will it be an evil clown again?
 
Given his age, in four years his health my not allow it but if he does,
you can be sure he will have some support from the present Trumpets.
 
There is supposed to be a bunch of lawsuits just waiting for him to not
be president that will potentially keep him busy. It may get very
interesting.
Master Bruce <masterbruce@null.null>: Dec 30 12:35PM +1100


>There is supposed to be a bunch of lawsuits just waiting for him to not
>be president that will potentially keep him busy. It may get very
>interesting.
 
Trump's father died at the age of 93, his mother at the age of 88. So
maybe he's good for another term. Powered by cheeseburgers!
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: Dec 29 06:36PM -0700

On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 18:52:34 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
 
 
> https://us.bertazzoni.com/products/ranges?qCaratteristiche=148||30%20in
 
> This house came with GE appliances. Not my first choice but the range
> has been good and I like the griddle in the center.
 
According to Consumer Reports, GE is one of the more reliable brands.
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Dec 29 08:33PM -0500

On 12/29/2020 6:57 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> also don't use it often enough to continue.
 
> We're talking ricotta. My friend said you need some kind of starter to
> make Mozzarella.
 
You need rennet and it is readily available mail order.
https://www.thekitchn.com/how-to-make-homemade-mozzarella-cooking-lessons-from-the-kitchn-174355
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Dec 29 05:17PM -0800

On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 3:25:36 PM UTC-8, Leo wrote:
 
> <https://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2011/08/31/140090116/why-gibson-
> guitar-was-raided-by-the-justice-department>
 
> That was a fine use of Justice Department resources.
It's not a Gibson, it's a counterfeit. I'll be taking it apart and monkeying around with it. I do have some real Gibsons but no monkeying around is possible with those. It's doesn't have the heft of a real Les Paul because the top is not a thick slab of maple. Instead, there's a very thin veneer of book-matched flamed maple on a carved mahogany body. It looks right pretty and construction like this makes a lot of sense these days. You can build a lot more beautiful guitars a lighter Les Paul is not a bad thing.
I do indeed remember the night they drove old Gibson down. That certainly put the fear of God into the manufacturers of guitars. In the end, Gibson paid a $300,000 fine and forfeited the wood. That's the breaks.
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