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| Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Feb 27 11:12AM -0500 "U.S. Janet B." wrote: > What do you like with scallops? My mind won't settle. I need some > ideas. Well I sat on this one just to see what others have said. Scallops are the one shellfish that I don't buy too often. Don't worry about frozen ones. Just as good as fresh. Jill buys frozen ones and she lives right beside the ocean. Only time you might get them fresh at the seaside is from local seafood(only) market, or have them served in locally owned restaurants. That's it. I've cooked both and no significant difference at all. Anyway, for small bay scallops, I stir fry them in a nip of oil. High heat, quick sear and they are done. For the larger sea scallops, nip of oil and pan sear top, then bottom, then I'll even sear on the rounded side...sear and slowly roll around the pan. Just that side searing often finishes them. If not quite just turn down heat for another minute. I prefer them pretty much on their own...a large appetizer or a small entree. For occasional seasoning, I like a very small drizzle of: - just 1 TBS melted salted butter - only 2-3 drops of lemon - tinyest nip of garlic powder (or just a shred of real garlic clove) You want the flavor of the butter with just barest hint of the lemon and garlic. Ed's white wine sounds good to me but just a few drops Sides to serve with? Around the beach here, locals like to keep it simple. Let the seafood be the star of the dish. Very common here (and with most seafood dinners) is just a simple side of fries with s&p. That gives you a nice variety of taste but not intrusive at all. The seafood of choice will still remain the star. One more thing...if you just make them seared only, use a neutral tasting oil with maybe a bit of butter mixed in. Anyway, just more for you to consider next time. HTH :) |
| parkstreetbooboo@gmail.com: Feb 27 08:18AM -0800 > suggestions I made in a previous reply or even use a gluten fee soy > noodle pasta. That would taste so good with a large portion of the > cheese sauce I suggested... put stuff in your rice. nicely diced different coloured bell peppers, diced onions, mushrooms etc. |
| U.S. Janet B. <JB@nospam.com>: Feb 27 09:25AM -0700 >One more thing...if you just make them seared only, use a neutral >tasting oil with maybe a bit of butter mixed in. >Anyway, just more for you to consider next time. HTH :) thanks. You and I are part of the keep it simple group.. thanks for taking the time |
| Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Feb 27 11:45AM -0500 "U.S. Janet B." wrote: > obviously I am dealing with frozen ... I had my first taste > of scallops when I briefly lived in New Jersey and I loved them. Those > of you next to the ocean can get fresh caught, I can't.\ Again....not a thing wrong with frozen. The most expensive tuna served raw in restaurants was frozen at sea. All large fish are frozen at sea. At seaside, only way to maybe get fresh scallops is local seafood market and at privately owned local restaurants. YOU can get frozen. Consider it fresh, taste wise. Not only that....I have never seen a live scallop in shell sold even in a seafood market. They are always removed from shell. Unlike clams and oysters where you open the shell and eat everything inside, you don't eat the entire scallop. All you eat is the muscle that opens and closes the thing. Scallop 'guts' are discarded and never sold. Again Sheldon lied about "slurping down fresh scallops" on Long Island years ago. What a choad. heheh |
| ChristKiller@deathtochristianity.pl: Feb 27 08:49AM -0600 On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 04:24:03 -0800, "Julie Bove" >> sounds a good bit like an excuse >I rarely have any fruit. Don't like it. Don't use cornstarch or Tamari. >Don't and won't use canola oil. Don't usually have green onions either. You don't use soy sauce? tamari is soy without the wheat, they tasted exactly the same though... I don't really use much canola either mainly just EVOO or just OO... I could not go without green onions/scallions... I have a nice little patch of them in my garden -- ____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____ |
| Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Feb 27 10:47AM -0500 On 2019-02-27 7:24 a.m., Julie Bove wrote: > I rarely have any fruit. Don't like it. Don't use cornstarch or Tamari. > Don't and won't use canola oil. Don't usually have green onions either. Oh come on now. Why don't you just write down the whole list of things you don't like and get it over with. |
| Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Feb 27 07:51AM -0800 On Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 10:45:39 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote: > > Don't and won't use canola oil. Don't usually have green onions either. > Oh come on now. Why don't you just write down the whole list of things > you don't like and get it over with. Honestly, seeing the two of them go at it is some of the best entertainment we've had in a long while. I scarcely know who to root for. Cindy Hamilton |
| ChristKiller@deathtochristianity.pl: Feb 27 04:59AM -0600 On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 12:56:38 +1100, Bruce <bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>Can ya hear what the rock is saying? >The way you hardly distinguish between Chinese and Asians, does that >mean Americans are really Germans? Chinese are asians, russians are asians, koreans are asians.. What is the Problem exactly? -- ____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____ |
| ChristKiller@deathtochristianity.pl: Feb 27 05:00AM -0600 On Tue, 26 Feb 2019 20:57:04 -0800, "Julie Bove" >> have named it orange chicken.... >> Can ya hear what the rock is saying? >Asians in American invented those dishes for Americans! Buy a clue. Wow did you even read what you just said? -- ____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____ |
| ChristKiller@deathtochristianity.pl: Feb 27 05:12AM -0600 On Tue, 26 Feb 2019 20:45:21 -0800, "Julie Bove" >> sriracha is the secret sauce for everything.. You can add sriracha >> to peach cobbler and make it better... >Soy based pasta? PPpppyuk! yes and they are very good https://www.amazon.com/s?k=soy+noodles&ref=nb_sb_noss_1 >If I want orange chicken, I use use whatever nuggets or strips I have in the >freezer and toss them Well I hope you were the one that actually cut them up and did not buy that chemically infused chicken they sell at stores >(after cooking) with purchased orange sauce. More chemically infused cap usually with refined sugar, and/or corn syrup. It is so easy to make. >rice. >I'm not going to go out and buy a bunch of ingredients to make this dish. We >only eat it maybe 2-3 times a year. It's okay for a change. Not a favorite. The only ingredient that I usually don't have readily available in my kitchen is fresh oranges since I am more of an apple strawberry banana and pineapple eater. So "going out to buy" a bunch of ingredients sounds a good bit like an excuse -- ____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____ |
| U.S. Janet B. <JB@nospam.com>: Feb 27 09:35AM -0700 Our weatherman has given up trying to tell us what is going on. We have Frog (frozen fog) and mixed precip. I'm not going out to shop today, I'm raiding the deep freeze. Soup for lunch from frozen stock -- clean out the veggies in the fridge. Usual suspects, onion celery, carrots, potato, cabbage, green beans, maybe some bell pepper and a couple of mushrooms. Bay leaf and thyme of course. Dinner. I'm thawing a couple of thin cut pork chops for sandwiches on Kaiser rolls that I am thawing. Probably Apple Crisp to round out dinner. How about you? The way I see it everyone here is scheduled for unpleasant weather. Janet US |
| Bruce <bruce@invalid.invalid>: Feb 27 11:16AM -0500 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtQFkh1CHlo |
| John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Feb 27 08:20AM -0800 On Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 10:17:04 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtQFkh1CHlo Cohen's really spilling the beans, eh? RICO! RICO!! PRISON!!! Oh, and DRUMPF'S IMPEACHMENT!!! John Kuthe... |
| cshenk <cshenk@lyco.net>: Feb 27 11:27AM -0500 In article <0KydE.3880$UC1.2216@fx25.iad>, bruce@invalid.invalid says... > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtQFkh1CHlo That little black kid made me laugh. It's hard to believe it's only about 3 years away from its first murder conviction. |
| ChristKiller@deathtochristianity.pl: Feb 27 08:44AM -0600 On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 07:04:51 -0600, Terry Coombs <snag_one@msn.com> wrote: > My wife uses/drinks soy milk , I can't stand the stuff . I use real >milk for mine and the dog's morning coffee and an occasional bowl of >cereal . all I drink is soy milk, I get mine from TJ's which is gluten free. To me it tastes pretty much like any other kind of milk. I don't eat cereal, but I use the soy for my coffee in the am, different recipes during the day, and a white or black russian at night(modified of course). I have never given coffee to my dog either... that seems a bit much.. -- ____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____ |
| Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Feb 27 10:49AM -0500 On 2019-02-27 8:04 a.m., Terry Coombs wrote: > My wife uses/drinks soy milk , I can't stand the stuff . I use real > milk for mine and the dog's morning coffee and an occasional bowl of > cereal . I was never impressed with soy milk, but almond milk is quite palatable. Oak milk is great on cereal. My wife likes it in coffee. |
| Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Feb 27 11:12AM -0500 Dave Smith wrote: > Oak milk is great on cereal. My wife likes it in coffee. Oak milk? Jeez, you're just as weird as Julie with food. ;) |
| Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Feb 27 11:19AM -0500 > all I drink is soy milk, I get mine from TJ's which is gluten free. LOL TJ's. What an over-rated store. I've been twice to buy an item that someone raved about. Each product was nasty. What did you do before they showed up? |
| parkstreetbooboo@gmail.com: Feb 27 06:30AM -0800 On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 4:53:12 PM UTC-5, graham wrote: > > Hmmmmm, that's interesting. I may need to do some research before attempting > > to make stock in the pressure cooker. > YMMV:-) I think big commercial kitchens still use the long, slow method. i worked in a large hotel. when we made chicken stock we used necks and backs exclusively. and started it out at around 9:00AM. bring to boil, skim and skim. get it down to an extremely low simmer. a couple of bubbles every minute. at around 6:00pm add water again and let it go all night. the morning cook turns it off. strain etc. |
| Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Feb 27 11:19AM -0500 > i worked in a large hotel. when we made chicken stock we used necks and backs exclusively. and started it out at around 9:00AM. bring to boil, skim and skim. get it down to an extremely low simmer. a couple of bubbles every minute. at around 6:00pm add water again and let it go all night. the morning cook turns it off. strain etc. Definitely. The 24 hour simmering time gives the best and richest results. I do the same. I don't skim (not concerned with clear broth) but I use my old crockpot. Start in the morning...about 12 hours later, open up and break up any large parts and stir, then lid back on for another 12 hours. After 24 hours, all the ingredient flavors are in the broth. You don't make chicken salad out of the chicken meat as it's totally flavorless by then. That tells me that Sheldon doesn't really make chicken or turkey broth. I even seem to remember a few years ago that he said that he didn't. Just tossed all parts out to the critters (growing rat population too) ;) |
| Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Feb 27 09:38AM -0500 On 2/27/2019 12:13 AM, graham wrote: >> will tax us 100%. I still pay about $650 a month for us with Medicare >> and supplement. > Pity the poor sods who can't afford that! If on Medicare they do get 80% coverage and many Medicade get 100%. Bad as our system is, many people get at least basic coverage for free, thus my high premium. I've always done well with employer paid medical. Problem is, the average person becomes unaware and uncaring, I got mine, so you get your attitude. I take a couple of medications. I pay for insurance and have a co-pay of about $15 a month. I know of someone on disability that pays no insurance premium and gets all his drugs for free. It is state paid. I'm not against medical for everyone, but no one has given us the real cost of it. Obamacare helped some, hurt others. |
| GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Feb 27 07:28AM -0800 Ed Pawlowski wrote: > insurance premium and gets all his drugs for free. It is state paid. > I'm not against medical for everyone, but no one has given us the real > cost of it. Obamacare helped some, hurt others. Ed, here is an interesting article, I was going to start a new thread, but I'll post it here, it makes some interesting points re: European health care, and questions whether health care is a "right"...none of the countries mentioned (Scandinavian, Switzerland, Singapore...) regard health care as a "right", and it is certainly not "free". In fact, if we followed the Swiss (citizens are absolutely mandated to pay for their own health insurance - under *****severe***** penalty of law) or some other models, many here in the States would openly revolt: https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/02/bernie-sanders-health-care-rhetoric-rights/ Health Care Is the Opposite of a Right By KEVIN D. WILLIAMSON February 27, 2019 6:30 AM "Bernie Sanders, like many American progressives, is almost completely parochial. Senator Bernie Sanders, gamely making the case for socialism on CNN, offers a familiar argument: that access to health care and other goods like it should be understood as a "right." Properly understood, that claim is literally nonsensical, having the grammatical form of a sentence but no meaningful content, inasmuch as it is logically meaningless to declare a right in a scarce good. (I am using scarce here in its economic sense rather than in its common conversational sense.) For example: If you have twelve children and six cupcakes, the possibilities of division remain the same even if you declare that every child has the "right" to an entire cupcake of his own. Goods are physical, while rights are metaphysical, and the actual facts of the real world are not transformed by our deciding to talk about them in a different way. Other declarations in the same form — "Health care is quintessentially axiomatic," "Health care is candy-apple gray," "Health care is a spastically cloistered bottle of courageous smoke," etc. — would be equally meaningless as sentences. "Health care is a right" is a sentence that fools some people into thinking that it means something because the synthetic impression of moral urgency that accompanies the declaration of "a right" overwhelms the ordinary logical faculty, which in many people is less developed than the emotional endowment, that widespread condition being the principal defect in democracy. When a politician declares a "right" in a scarce good, it indicates either that he is a simpleton or that he believes you to be, and one's as good as the other, that being another defect in democracy. (Another defect in democracy is its apparently inability to learn, hence the Democratic embrace of socialism in 2019 in spite of socialism's unbroken track record of failure and brutality.) Senator Sanders points to the Scandinavian model as an example of what it means to have health care as a right. Senator Sanders has traveled widely in his life — he found much to praise in the Soviet Union while honeymooning there, and said so — but he is, like many American progressives, almost completely parochial. As is the case with the United Kingdom and much of Europe, Sweden, Norway, and Denmark are in the 21st century markedly different from the countries they were in the 1970s, when Senator Sanders's awareness of the world seems to have congealed into the impenetrable clot of ignorance on such ghastly display in his current political career. A generation of reform — including tax cuts and reductions in the scope of the public sector — have left the Scandinavian countries with lower public-sector spending than such European standard-bearers as France and Belgium. In the Heritage Foundation's economic-liberty rankings, the Scandinavian countries come in right alongside the United States — and behind such market-oriented leaders as Switzerland, Australia, New Zealand, and Singapore. On many scores, the Scandinavian countries offer more robust free-market systems than does the United States. Another thing the Scandinavian countries have in common: Their politicians may talk about health care as a right sometimes, too, but in none of those countries is health care free. There isn't a single "Scandinavian" model of health care, but there are some features common in the set. One of them is that consumers pay out of pocket for health care, starting with copays but also extending to many specialist services, prescription drugs, dental care, and the like. In fact, as the Commonwealth Fund runs the numbers, private out-of-pocket spending on health care is proportionally higher in Sweden (about 16 percent of all health-care spending) than in the United States (about 11 percent). Out-of-pocket spending as a share of health-care costs is higher in Denmark (12 percent) and Norway (14 percent), too. (Statistical note: There is a small difference between private spending and out-of-pocket spending, but it is trivial in the Scandinavian cases cited here, with out-of-pocket spending accounting for 98 percent or so of private spending. Also, those figures are complicated by the fact that spending levels are different from country to country, and that the United States is an outlier; the Swedes spend more out-of-pocket as a share of a lower spending total, meaning that their out-of-pocket expenses are higher than U.S. rates as a share of medical costs but lower in absolute terms.) In other countries with widely admired health-care systems, out-of-pocket spending is even higher as a share of health-care costs: around 19 percent in Switzerland and 60 percent in Singapore. Those numbers in some ways say both more and less than it may seem, in that the U.S. employer-based health-insurance system plays a role similar to the social-insurance programs some other countries (it does not perform that role especially well), and a dollar taken out of your paycheck for health-care coverage is a dollar gone whether we call it a tax or an insurance premium. It is a peculiarity of the American system that we attempt to deputize employers to administer what is in many other countries part of the welfare state. As it stands, the U.S. system retains much of what people dislike about private care while incorporating much of what's undesirable about state-dominated systems: insecurity and relatively high costs plus sclerotic bureaucracy and cumbrous regulation — hooray for us. The numbers may not be quite what American progressives expect, but what is interesting about them is not so much what they tell us about economic incentives as what they tell us about health-care attitudes. In an interview with James Pethokoukis, Swedish economist Tino Sanandaji links the social organizing principle behind the Scandinavian welfare states to what the Swedes refer to as duktig — loosely translated, "competence." Citizens are understood not as baby birds with open beaks being fed by the state, but as having primary responsibility for themselves. "It has the connotation that you have the social obligation to be competent," Sanandaji says. Not a right, but a duty. As a matter of national rhetoric, this is strongly emphasized in countries such as Switzerland and Singapore. That is one reason why the individual mandate to carry health insurance is uncontroversial in Switzerland. "We consider the health insurance mandate to be a form of socially responsible civic conduct," former Swiss health minister Thomas Zeltner told Health Affairs. "In Switzerland, 'individual freedom' does not mean that you should be free to live irresponsibly and freeload from others." In the United States, the individual mandate has been effectively repealed, but even before that, the Supreme Court was obliged to participate in a silly charade that the mandate was an exercise of Congress's taxing authority in order for the law to even partly withstand a constitutional challenge. Adopting a rhetoric of rights is not going to simplify that. Fundamentally, health care is not a moral question but an economic one. That much can be demonstrated by the fact that even if every American agreed with Senator Sanders about health care as a moral question, we'd still be obliged to approach it as an economic one — the moral consensus, even if it were not mistaken, would solve precisely nothing. Medical care costs something, and we have a social commitment to seeing to it that those costs don't come down on vulnerable people in an unnecessarily burdensome way, part of what F. A. Hayek described as "providing for those common hazards of life against which few can make adequate provision." Contra Senator Sanders et al., this is not a project that require socialism in any degree. What it does require is responsibility — including responsible citizenship — and a clear-eyed understanding of the nature of the problem. What does it mean to be a responsible citizen? In the United States, we have a poor and diminished notion of citizenship, that citizens are only "taxpayers" and "voters." Good citizens, in the inescapable contemporary formulation, are those who "play by the rules and pay their taxes." That's the real individual mandate: Pay and obey. The progressive proposition is that, in exchange for this obedience, childlike citizens are to be provided for by government in loco parentis, and that their role in this is almost entirely passive: submit to taxation, follow the regulations, receive the benefits. Hence the rhetoric of health care as a right. A fuller and more mature notion of citizenship would be one that holds, as ours once did, that among the first duties of the citizen is to provide for himself and look after his family so as not to burden his neighbors unnecessarily. The rhetoric of benefits as rights cultivates just the opposite attitude, one of learned helplessness, not in response to extraordinary challenges but in the face of the ordinary business of life. That attitude of helplessness is of great benefit to a certain stripe of politician. It is not good for people or countries. And it isn't really characteristic of the Scandinavian societies that Senator Sanders thinks he admires..." </> |
| Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Feb 27 10:43AM -0500 On 2019-02-27 6:14 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote: > Realistically speaking, that kind of system here would be (a) unconstitutional > and (b) require the virtual dismantling of the wealthy and powerful private > insurance sector. The curious thing is that health care is a major expense and a major cause of concern for Americans, but so many people are adamantly opposed to making changes to make it more affordable and available to all. The for profit medical business spends a lot of money lobbying to prevent changes that will cut into their profits and they have the support of the same people who complain about it. |
| Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Feb 27 11:17AM -0500 John Kuthe wrote: > > equation? > Oh yes they do! Wellness care!! WE U.S. citizens DON'T!! And most to all the rich Democratic Socialist nations have BETTER METRICS of Public Health than the U.S.! > John Kuthe... Every Saturday night one channel here shows an old episode of "Lost in Space." I watched those shows new each week back in the 60s because I was "in love" with Penny. Why? Because I was the same age as she was...and still am. At age 13, she was my tv dream girl RFC now features a modern episode almost every day. John is the new "Dr.Smith" |
| ChristKiller@deathtochristianity.pl: Feb 27 08:40AM -0600 On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 04:28:58 -0800, "Julie Bove" >need for an air fryer for any of those things! >I eat that way not because anyone told me to eat that way. Those are my >favorite foods! Cottage cheese is packed full of cholesterol unless it is the soy cottage cheese -- ____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____ |
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