Saturday, February 23, 2019

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 8 topics

penmart01@aol.com: Feb 23 01:12PM -0500

On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 dsi1 wrote:
 
> the first slice but forced myself to eat another. When I came home
>from work yesterday, I had another slice and my wife had one slice.
>I was looking to eat the other two slices today but they were gone.
 
What a selfish shit, resents sharing a slice with his wife... I bet
you gave her a noogie,
 
>These days my appetite is way down. Beats me why that is.
>Perhaps I am ill but I don't feel ill.
 
Um, people afflicted with mental illness don't feel ill... well, I'm
just being helpful... normally Popeye would have suggested you shove a
meat thermometer up your ass, would have indicated the dreaded Ukelele
Thinks He's Hot Shit Syndrome! LOL
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Feb 23 10:57AM -0800

On Saturday, February 23, 2019 at 8:12:16 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> just being helpful... normally Popeye would have suggested you shove a
> meat thermometer up your ass, would have indicated the dreaded Ukelele
> Thinks He's Hot Shit Syndrome! LOL
 
Sorry pal, I can't come out and play today. A bit under the weather, I'd say. :)
lucretiaborgia@fl.it: Feb 23 02:08PM -0400

On Sat, 23 Feb 2019 10:53:19 -0500, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
wrote:
 
 
>I haven't tried Stouffer's pot pie. Maybe I should. I wasn't at all
>impressed by the Marie Callender pot pie. It was very bland.
 
>Jill
 
I can't say I really liked it but it was okay and nice and lazy for
supper.
lucretiaborgia@fl.it: Feb 23 02:10PM -0400

On Sat, 23 Feb 2019 09:51:22 -0700, U.S. Janet B. <JB@nospam.com>
wrote:
 
>>would say that it is fair to hear the other side.
 
>Gosh, I haven't run into any of that in more than 35-40 years or more.
>Or maybe I just don't notice it.
 
Round here the JWs and Mormons gave up going door to door because
houses were empty all day, both parents working. They tried bothering
small businesses but soon learned that was totally unacceptable.
lucretiaborgia@fl.it: Feb 23 02:11PM -0400


>>> Does using kosher salt make me religious?
 
>> I don't know about you but it didn't work for me. ;)
 
>Perhaps it depends on whether you are circumcised or not:-)
 
Good one Graham :)
lucretiaborgia@fl.it: Feb 23 09:56AM -0400


>Its just that you are obsessed with it. The same as some of the nut
>jobs that blow up churches or run trucks into crowds. Seeking attention
>is what is important to you, more important than the result.
 
Well said Ed. Personally, as an atheist, sometimes other atheists are
as embarrassing as any Jimmy Bakker in their dedication to atheism.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Feb 23 08:56AM -0500

On 2/23/2019 8:42 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote in reply to a nutjob:
 
> Its just that you are obsessed with it.  The same as some of the nut
> jobs that blow up churches or run trucks into crowds.  Seeking attention
> is what is important to you, more important than the result.
 
 
None of his/her contributions have a thing to do with Joan making
chicken pot pie using her Ninja Foodie. I k/f'd the troll the minute I
saw the nickname. I'm in no way religious but I have no desire to give
this person a platform from which to preach (yep, it's preaching).
 
Jill
GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Feb 23 10:35AM -0800

Gary wrote:
 
 
> Cook it my way with 1/2 cup corn in the microwave, add a slice of
> buttered bread and you get a small, satisfying dinner for about
> $0.50. Bigger appetite? Just cook another.
 
 
Had one last year for "nostalgia's sake"...they were a staple earlier in life. Couldn't eat but a bite, it was incredibly SALTY, also had a slimey texture...
 
I'll make a thick chicken stew, then top with simple ho' made bisquits...much tastier and can control the salt...
 
--
Best
Greg
graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: Feb 23 11:35AM -0700

On 2019-02-23 10:25 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
>> not do that.
 
> Atheists have killed millions. Stalin. Pol Pot. Mao Zedung. You may
> dismount from your high horse.
 
That's a stupid argument that has been slammed many times! They didn't
kill BECAUSE of their atheism. I would have thought that was obvious.
 
NOW, LET'S GET BACK TO FOOD!!!!!!!!!!!
Bruce <bruce@invalid.invalid>: Feb 24 05:40AM +1100


>That's a stupid argument that has been slammed many times! They didn't
>kill BECAUSE of their atheism. I would have thought that was obvious.
 
>NOW, LET'S GET BACK TO FOOD!!!!!!!!!!!
 
If they had been religious, they might not have thought they were God
themselves?
GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Feb 23 10:50AM -0800

graham wrote:
 
> > dismount from your high horse.
 
> That's a stupid argument that has been slammed many times! They didn't
> kill BECAUSE of their atheism. I would have thought that was obvious.
 
 
The afore - mentioned monster leaders did *indeed* kill many religious believers, religion was the first thing they attempted to "liquidate" after seizing power...and they did a pretty good job of it!
 

> NOW, LET'S GET BACK TO FOOD!!!!!!!!!!!
 
 
Now graham, *always* remember that Our Dear Lord considers even *you* one of his children...
 
:-)
 
--
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Greg
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Feb 23 10:53AM -0800

On Saturday, February 23, 2019 at 8:35:22 AM UTC-10, GM wrote:
 
> --
> Best
> Greg
 
I used to eat those Swanson's pies for lunch when I had my business. I didn't have to leave my office for lunch so I saved a lot of time. They were salty little bastards alright. I didn't care about that. The only thing I cared about was that you could cook them in the microwave in a few minutes and they were 99 cents each. It makes me happy just thinking about it. :)
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Feb 23 01:57PM -0500

On 2019-02-23 12:17 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
 
> The last time I saw a JW or a Mormon I was probably in my late 20's.  So
> that was 30 years ago.  If he's still being bothered by them maybe he
> needs to move. ;)
 
I don't plan to move to avoid the god squads. JWs have not come around
here in ages, though we did get a phone call from them a couple years
ago. I had sent them a letter a long time ago advising them that they
are not welcome here and that if the come around again they would be
charged with trespassing. They wanted to know if that letter was in
effect. Yes it is, and thank goodness they have honoured it. I am still
grateful to the person who told me that was the way to stop them.
Ironically, it came from a born again "Christian" who was upset with
them for their spreading the wrong words.
 
On a slightly food related note.... the JHs are fairly active around
here and they usually go to the corner coffee shop for coffee and
conversation while they are out knocking on doors. One day I was in
there shortly after. I was in line for for than 10 minutes because they
were all ordering specialty coffees. Two guys with the group were
directly ahead of me in line, so we are standing right in front of the
display cases and under the menu. They chatting away all the time they
are waiting. Then they get up to the counter and instead of ordering
what he had had plenty of time to think about, said "What do you have?".
 
I was seriously tempted to whack him upside of the head for being so
stupid. You should be able to do that.
 
 
 
 
  He can always change the channel on the radio or the
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Feb 23 01:58PM -0500

On 2019-02-23 12:25 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
 
>>> I don't know about you but it didn't work for me.  ;)
 
>> Perhaps it depends on whether you are circumcised or not:-)
 
> Oh please don't invite that topic into this discussion!
 
Indeed. It might lead to a discussion about how much of a tip to leave.
Pamela <pamela.poster@gmail.com>: Feb 23 06:09PM


> Personally, I prefer the mined ancient sea salt, now just called
> salt. The ocean was much more pure when that salt formed in
> ancient and long gone oceans. :)
 
Not forgetting pink Himalayan salt. Heh!
Pamela <pamela.poster@gmail.com>: Feb 23 06:50PM

>> > ancient and long gone oceans. :)
 
>> Not forgetting pink Himalayan salt. Heh!
 
> That Himalayan salt was also formed at the bottom of an old sea.
 
I mentioned it as another example of overpriced salt.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Feb 23 01:13PM -0500

jmcquown wrote:
 
> I found a package of lamb shoulder blade chops, each with a nice bit of
> meat on them, three for under $8. Took them out to thaw for tomorrow's
> dinner.
 
Three under $8.00 is meaningless.
Probably about a pound or very slightly more total for the 3.
Be sure to add 4 brussel sprouts (lightly oiled) to
complete your meal. ;)
Send a pic else this a lie. Popeye told me this to watch out for.
U.S. Janet B. <JB@nospam.com>: Feb 23 11:22AM -0700

On Sat, 23 Feb 2019 12:56:25 -0500, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
wrote:
 
 
>I haven't decided what to cook with the lamb chops yet. Lots of things
>to choose from!
 
>Jill
 
I used to cook that kind of lamb cut as a braise. I'd brown the chops
with onion, garlic and green pepper. Add tomatoes and soy sauce.
Serve
over rice. I know you don't care for anything like this but your
chops made me think of it and now I have a craving. I'll have to look
for lamb the next time I am at Albertsons. Albertsons because they
cut up a whole lamb and sell all the pieces. Other supermarkets on my
route by the pre-packaged, crovac'd stuff with just the top selling
pieces of lamb. . . chops and leg. Dummies! Some of us want the
other parts of a critter.
Janet US
GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Feb 23 10:30AM -0800

Gary wrote:
 
> Be sure to add 4 brussel sprouts (lightly oiled) to
> complete your meal. ;)
> Send a pic else this a lie. Popeye told me this to watch out for.
 
 
Sheldon abhors lamb, ya know, he will say it "SCHTINKS", lol...
 
Can't remember the last time I imbibed on lamb, it was many years ago...as a meat it's pretty much "off the radar" anymore...
 
Greek joints offer lamb...and there's a Chinese place in town that offers "Sheep Intestine Soup"...
 
--
Best
Greg
Bruce <bruce@invalid.invalid>: Feb 24 05:29AM +1100

>pays taxes. They pass that cost onto the customer.
 
>If the government put a tax on wheat used in bread, people would cheer.
>Then be bewildered when the price of bread goes up.
 
Those price rises would be limited by competition. Corporations should
pay taxes. That has nothing to do with "the little guy feeling good".
GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Feb 23 10:14AM -0800

http://www.newgeography.com/content/006230-the-dark-side-of-green-technology
 
The dark side of Green technology
 
By Ron Stein|February 18th, 2019|Energy|7 Comments
 
"When you consider the push for electrical vehicles (EVs) to replace gas and diesel combustion transports on our roadways, the carbon footprint valuation appears quite attractive. The batteries that power those EV's are however dependent on exotic minerals to function which exposes the dark side of green technology.
 
The mere extraction of the exotic minerals cobalt and lithium used in the batteries of EV's present social challenges, human rights abuse challenges, and environmental challenges. Hazardous working conditions where the workers make such meager wages they live in abject poverty. Moreover, they are regularly exposed to out of control pollution and countless other environmental issues which cannot be ignored.
 
The key minerals used in today's batteries are cobalt of which 60% is sourced from one country, the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC), and lithium of which more than 50% is sourced from the Lithium Triangle in South America, which covers parts of Argentina, Bolivia and Chile. Today 20% of cobalt is mined by hand. Amnesty International has documented children and adults mining cobalt in narrow man-made tunnels, at risk of fatal accidents and serious lung disease.
 
The cobalt mined by children and adults in horrendous conditions in the DRC in Africa is entering the supply chains of some of the world's biggest brands. The richest most powerful companies in the world are still making excuses for not investigating their supply chains. Even those that are investigating are failing to disclose the human rights risks and abuses they find.
 
As demand for rechargeable batteries grows, companies have a responsibility to prove that they have ethical supply chains, a priority when implementing green policies, and are not profiting from the misery of miners working in terrible conditions like those in the DRC. The energy solutions of the future must not be built on human rights abuses.
 
When a company has contributed to, or benefited from, child labor or adults working in hazardous conditions, it has a responsibility to remediate the harm suffered. This means working with other companies and the government to remove children from the worst forms of child labor and support their reintegration into school, as well as addressing health and psychological needs.
 
One of today's biggest environmental problems caused by our endless hunger for the latest "smart" devices that are made from the chemicals manufactured out of deep earth minerals/fuels, is a growing mineral crisis, particularly the minerals needed to make the batteries that power these devices.
 
There are additional environmental concerns related to those rare earth metals. In recent years, rare earth metals like lithium have been imported in greater quantities from China, which has been able to lower its prices enough to now monopolize the industry. One of the reasons China could sell lithium so cheaply is because it widely ignores environmental safeguards during the mining process.
 
In the Bayan Obo region of China, for example, miners remove topsoil and extract the gold-flecked metals using acids that enter the groundwater, destroying nearby agricultural land. Even the normally tight-lipped Chinese government has admitted to rare earth mining abuses in some provinces.
 
Battery production causes more environmental damage than carbon emissions alone. Consider dust, fumes, wastewater and other environmental impacts from cobalt mining in the DRC; water shortages and toxic spills from lithium mining in South America, which can alter ecosystems and hurt local communities; a heavily polluted river due to nickel mining in Russia; or air pollution in northeastern China.
 
Most electric vehicles in use today are yet to reach the end of their cycle. The first all-electric car to be powered by lithium-ion batteries, the Tesla Roadster, made its market debut in 2008. This means the first generation of electric vehicle batteries have yet to reach the recycling stage. An estimated 11 million tons of spent lithium-ion batteries will flood our markets by 2025, without systems in place to handle them.
 
Energy is more than just electricity from cobalt and lithium minerals used in batteries. Electricity alone, especially intermittent electricity from renewables, has not, and will not, run the economies in the world, as electricity alone is unable to support the energy demands of the military, airlines, cruise ships, supertankers, container shipping, medications, vaccines, and trucking infrastructures.
 
The intermittent electricity from wind, solar, or batteries CANNOT supply the thousands of products from petroleum that are demanded by every transportation infrastructure, electricity generation, medications, cooling, heating, manufacturing, agriculture, and virtually all the products that are the basis of everyone's standard of living across the globe.
 
As the world scrambles for more "clean" electrical energy, the environmental impact of locating and extracting all the lithium and/or cobalt required to enable and sustain the transformation could become a serious issue in its own right. The electrical energy solutions of the future must not be built on human rights abuses or on non-existent environmental regulations..."
 
From "comments"
 
"Brin Jenkins wrote:
 
Disposal of green solutions is set to astound us, and sooner than we thought perhaps.
 
One of my near neighbours fitted solar panels to her 100 year old Delabole slate roof, which is one of the World's very best slate. Our roof is in the same material and approaching 150 years, and its still very sound. The panel fitting disturbance had damaged the roof, and after 8 years leaks got too much. So it was all stripped, and re-slated in Brazilian slate, looks good, but not so good as original.
 
The panel mounting rails have been refitted for the 8 year old photo panels, but since last October no one wants to refit the old panels and guarantee they will still work. Scaffolding is still in place at great expense, and continues as an on going eyesore.
 
A quick calculation shows the free electricity has cost a new roof £7000. Extended scaffold hire some £2000. redundant rails despoiling her new roof, and probably scrapped her solar panels.
 
Was this really necessary over the CO2 panic that has never been explained I ask myself?..."
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Feb 23 10:29AM -0800

On Saturday, February 23, 2019 at 12:14:47 PM UTC-6, GM wrote:
> http://www.newgeography.com/content/006230-the-dark-side-of-green-technology
...
 
Are you familiar with ancient Earth history? Are you familiar with how many extinctions there have been in Earth's 4 billion year history? The Dinosaur's and LOTS of other forms of life on the planet were in the 5th Extinction, 65 million years ago! One YUGE meteor about 6 miles wide VAPORIZED when it hit the planet Earth where the Gulf Of Mexico is now! We FOUND the YUGE crater, magnetically looking for OIL!
 
https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=PZBxXIvpG8rYjwTtwqfoCA&q=5th+extinction+cause&btnK=Google+Search&oq=5th+extinction+cause&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i8i30.3599.15570..17439...0.0..1.129.1795.22j1......0....1..gws-wiz.....0..35i39j0i131j0j0i10j0i30j0i5i30j33i299j33i160.S4D7HQ8Wung
 
We are NOW in the 6th Extinction phase, well into it! And WE CAUSED a LOT of it!!
 
We should have left it all underground! :-(
 
https://www.google.com/search?ei=UJBxXJ_SKePTjwSmoLy4Cw&q=6th+extinction+cause&oq=6th+extinction+cause&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i30j0i8i30l4.143375.146372..151004...0.0..0.81.295.4......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71j0i13i30.cvguyyv_YUs
 
John Kuthe, 6th Extinction progressing nicely!
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Feb 23 12:25PM -0600

On Sat, 23 Feb 2019 01:58:24 -0600,
> face and head itch like I have poison oak over my entire body... You
> say I am an attention whore, well if I am such then I will gladly
> trade you my symptoms for yours.
 
You're describing the symptoms of celiac disease/gluten intolerance,
which doctors are quite competent at diagnosing these days. It's
actually very easy to diagnose BY A DOCTOR. Those who have tested
negative for this still claim a "Gluten sensitivity" (not
"intolerance"), but there are no degrees of celiac, just as you
can't be "almost pregnant".
 
I actually thought I may have it back in 1995, long before it became
fashionable. I was scoped and snipped and scoped again and I
didn't. I let it go. What I was rely denying was that it was my
lifestyle at he time that included lots of drinking. Being celiac
would have been a great excuse, though. Everybody I knew would have
known about it within days and I could have been special rather than
just an alcoholic.
 
What you have instead is Mock Adult Onset Attention Deficit
Disorder. Meaning, you're not getting the attention you require so
you act out to bring attention to yourself. Even the doctors aren't
giving you the attention you think you warrant because they know
you're full of shit, too. So you resort to diagnosing yourself over
the Internet by quacks who virtually agree with you and find
like-minded people who, like you, also became gluten sensitive (not
gluten intolerant, mind you) practically overnight. Just like when
every little brat kid all the sudden had ADD back in the 90's.
 
Have you met Julie Bove, yet? We already have a huge bag of
bottomless mixed nuts to snack on and most of us are pretty tired of
them by now.
 
> with no knowledge and no understanding and have a firm belief that
> fairies are real. In other words I would trade all my symptoms to be a
> religious moron, you know just like you are.
 
See? This is why you're downright dumb, gullible, and incredible.
Calling yourself ChristKiller and then spouting off about how
anybody who may not believe you is a "religious moron" (even after I
just told you I wasn't). That makes you a fucking nutcase, and not
ironically, a religious moron too.
 
-sw
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Feb 23 12:27PM -0600

On Sat, 23 Feb 2019 07:09:18 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
>> on a deserted island with a bike generator a small dish for
>> broadcasting my signal and a few coconuts.
 
> Mind if we call you Gilligan?
 
I'm just going to call him JB if he's here much longer.
 
-sw
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Feb 23 01:05PM -0500

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> Oddly enough, the saltines I bought today said "sea salt". Plain old
> Premium saltines.
 
Think about it though, Cindy. This is where Premium is probably
trying to trick us only because the "trending salt" these days is
sea salt. People now spend more for sea salt and they feel
superior. It's just a marketing ploy. All salt is sea salt, only
difference is where it came from and how long ago it formed.
 
Personally, I prefer the mined ancient sea salt, now just called
salt. The ocean was much more pure when that salt formed in
ancient and long gone oceans. :)
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