Tuesday, March 12, 2019

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 7 topics

dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Mar 12 11:04AM -0700

On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 3:52:12 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> too.
 
> All my homemade pizza's, either white or with red sauce, have
> broccoli. Good stuff, bro!
 
The truth is that I don't care one way or the other if people put broccoli in their meat pies or on their pizza.
 
You need to focus your perception more on reality and not so much on any deficiencies of mine that you fantasize. A non-rfc'er i.e., regular person, would recognize my post as a joke - and not a very original one either. The reality is that you probably need to get out more often. Ironic, ain't it? :)
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Mar 12 11:16AM -0700

On Monday, March 11, 2019 at 11:59:13 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
 
> ---
 
> Mine were frosted but... When Angela was a kid, she was big into food that
> comes in packages. Still kinda is but she does cook some stuff.
 
I can see kids being fascinated by foods that come in packages. Adults too. My shtick is that given enough added sugar, you can get a kid to eat anything. It's a shtick alright but that don't make it not true. Hee hee.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmj9TYJ6ghQ
ChristKiller@deathtochristianity.pl: Mar 12 02:34PM -0500

On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 11:04:50 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> broccoli. Good stuff, bro!
 
>The truth is that I don't care one way or the other if people put broccoli in their meat pies or on their pizza.
 
>You need to focus your perception more on reality and not so much on any deficiencies of mine that you fantasize. A non-rfc'er i.e., regular person, would recognize my post as a joke - and not a very original one either. The reality is that you probably need to get out more often. Ironic, ain't it? :)
 
 
Speakin of the broc... A Chinese take out order is just not a Chinese
take out order if it does not contain poorly cooked stiff crunch
brocc...
 
--
 
____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Mar 12 01:10PM -0400

On 3/12/2019 6:02 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> consider my request.
 
>  I recall correctly, you don't like spicy food?
 
>      Yes, we can't eat them.
 
Can't but now are?
 
> two, I have been learning Hawaiian and other Asian foods.  Dsi1 has
> taught me a lot and we are loving it. We have never eaten such foods but
> now we are addicted :))
 
dsi1's examples of Asian foods are extremely limited.
 
Jill
tert in seattle <tert@ftupet.com>: Mar 12 05:23PM


>He really is an idiot when it comes to making sweeping statements like
>that. How does he know what you or I or the average "mainlander" thinks
>when we see an Asian person?
 
it's his shtick - he doesn't put much thought into it and neither should
anyone else
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Mar 12 10:38AM -0700

On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 12:07:05 AM UTC-10, Janet wrote:
 
> First you gave them wrong information then you tried to deny the
> correction.
 
> Janet UK
 
Things can be similar and different at the same time. American food and UK foods are similar but they're also different. That shouldn't be a hard concept to digest. I did explain a couple of differences - the rice the Thais eat is different. The level of heat is different.
 
Don't get your knickers in a twist. My comments were not about you, they were specifically about Americans. My guess is that people in the UK might be more knowledgeable about Asians since historically, they have lorded over their countries. The truth is that I'm not an expert on your country or white people in the UK. I once asked a bunch of kids if they were Irish. They said they were Scottish. I apologized profusely. My guess is that Scottish people don't like being mistaken as Irish any more than Koreans like being called Chinese. Things are easy in the US - white people are mostly just American.
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Mar 12 10:51AM -0700

On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 3:52:50 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> only one out of 50 states. You shouldn't speak for any other.
> ALL are different in certain ways.
 
> Your guesses are often wrong but always amusing. ;-D
 
I got news for you - your news is fake news. I've been on the mainland, I've read the posts on rfc. A guy that grew up with my son who now lives in Pittsburgh, has expressed his frustration with the locals calling Koreans "Chinese." Cultural/Racial ignorance and insensitivity runs rampant in the US. I'm sorry to have to break that news to you.
 
Your insights on reality are often wrong but always amusing - please keep it up! :)
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Mar 12 11:35AM -0700

On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 1:51:41 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > ALL are different in certain ways.
 
> > Your guesses are often wrong but always amusing. ;-D
 
> I got news for you - your news is fake news. I've been on the mainland, I've read the posts on rfc. A guy that grew up with my son who now lives in Pittsburgh, has expressed his frustration with the locals calling Koreans "Chinese."
 
You've got one data point. Or a few, at best. Hardly a
statistical sampling of American caucasians.
 
I might not be able to tell a Korean from a Chinese by
looking, but I know there is a difference.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Bruce <bruce@invalid.invalid>: Mar 13 06:05AM +1100

On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 11:35:39 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>statistical sampling of American caucasians.
 
>I might not be able to tell a Korean from a Chinese by
>looking, but I know there is a difference.
 
Can a Chinese tell a German from a Frenchman?
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Mar 12 12:32PM -0700

On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 8:35:42 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> I might not be able to tell a Korean from a Chinese by
> looking, but I know there is a difference.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
Black folks on the mainland are just as ignorant about Asians as are American Caucasians. That's just the way it is. My guess is that will change as the boomers head towards extinction. Hopefully, Asian-Americans won't be as ignorant about other Asians but I don't have any "data points" on that. My son's friend is a haole of Greek heritage and proudly so. He grew up in an environment where he was expected to know about Asians was well as other ethnic groups. The people on the mainland probably wonder why a white boy is trying to school them on Chinese people. One thing is for sure, the way mainlanders treat minorities over there ain't gonna fly over here.
 
You also got no call to give me a lecture on data points. Evidently, you feel you can teach me about carbon steel pans without having any experience with them. That's common among engineers and rfc'ers, ain't it? :)
Bruce <bruce@invalid.invalid>: Mar 13 06:22AM +1100

On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 19:17:40 GMT, Pamela <pamela.poster@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
>Why did you stop using Mesnews a few weeks ago?
 
Why do you think I used that?
Pamela <pamela.poster@gmail.com>: Mar 12 07:17PM

Why did you stop using Mesnews a few weeks ago?
Bruce <bruce@invalid.invalid>: Mar 13 04:20AM +1100


>I posted this in the egg thread
 
You could have fooled me.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Mar 12 01:22PM -0400

On 3/12/2019 10:51 AM, Gary wrote:
 
> Same with ham and cheese next time I cook a ham.
> (It's been a few years since I cooked a ham)
 
> Do you ever cook meat pies? What do you use?
 
She undoubtedly makes her own crust if she makes steak and kidney pie. ;)
 
Jill
tert in seattle <tert@ftupet.com>: Mar 12 05:33PM

>stuff like sausage rolls.
 
>You know, that type of thing. It's great as a topping for meat etc pies too
>:))
 
 
is it "rough" because you mix the butter in with the flour and salt rather
than fold it in to the dough?
"Ophelia" <OphElsnore@gmail.com>: Mar 12 06:24PM

"tert in seattle" wrote in message news:q68qgr$36a$2@ftupet.ftupet.com...
 
 
>You know, that type of thing. It's great as a topping for meat etc pies
>too
>:))
 
 
is it "rough" because you mix the butter in with the flour and salt rather
than fold it in to the dough?
 
==
 
I suppose so. It is much easier and faster too:))) I haven't made real
puff pastry for eons.
 
I started making rough puff in my early 20s and I am still doing so:))
 
I still have my Bero book, but it is just about falling to bits <g>
 
This is mine
 
https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/192850355084?chn=ps
 
Bero Rough Puff Pastry
 
http://www.be-ro.co.uk/Be-Ro/media/downloads/Be-Ro_website_recipes.pdf
 
Ingredients
225 g (8 oz) Be-Ro Plain Flour
a pinch of salt
100 ml (4 fl oz) water
150 g (5 oz) lard and margarine, mixed
cold water to mix
 
Preparation Instructions
1. Mix flour and salt, add fat cut into small pieces.
2. Stir in with a knife (do not rub in). Mix to a stiff dough with water.
3. Roll out on a floured surface to a narrow strip.
4. Fold in three, give a quarter turn so one of the open ends is towards you
and roll out again. Do this
three times in all.
5. Cover pastry and leave to rest (about 15 minutes) then roll into desired
shape.
6. In hot weather allow pastry to rest for 20-30 minutes in a refrigerator
or cool place before use.
NB: Always take care to roll away from you and do not break the air bubbles
that will rise.
 
I use butter or lard, it tastes better.
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Mar 12 11:41AM -0700

On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 8:24:19 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> NB: Always take care to roll away from you and do not break the air bubbles
> that will rise.
 
> I use butter or lard, it tastes better.
 
That's some interesting stuff. I like books which are primers of the basics of cooking. Most Americans are unfamiliar with rough pastry. The usual suspcts of rfc will deny that truth vigorously but that's just what they do. Anyway, thanks!:)
"Ophelia" <OphElsnore@gmail.com>: Mar 12 06:59PM

"dsi1" wrote in message
news:5ec41fa8-b7aa-4844-88df-455d53da239e@googlegroups.com...
 
On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 8:24:19 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> bubbles
> that will rise.
 
> I use butter or lard, it tastes better.
 
That's some interesting stuff. I like books which are primers of the basics
of cooking. Most Americans are unfamiliar with rough pastry. The usual
suspcts of rfc will deny that truth vigorously but that's just what they do.
Anyway, thanks!:)
 
==
 
You are very welcome:)) I had never expected anyone else here would be
interested:)
Bruce <bruce@invalid.invalid>: Mar 13 06:07AM +1100

On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 11:41:38 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> that will rise.
 
>> I use butter or lard, it tastes better.
 
>That's some interesting stuff. I like books which are primers of the basics of cooking. Most Americans are unfamiliar with rough pastry. The usual suspcts of rfc will deny that truth vigorously but that's just what they do. Anyway, thanks!:)
 
You'd get into less trouble if you limited your blanket statements to
Hawaiians, them being people that you actually know well. Unless you
like trouble, of course. Then everything goes.
Bruce <bruce@invalid.invalid>: Mar 13 04:19AM +1100

On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 11:05:11 -0000, "Ophelia" <OphElsnore@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
>recipient.
 
>==
 
>Oohh that sounds good to me:))) What did the other 'recipient' have?
 
The same. I meant to say that I didn't cook it. I only ate it :)
"Ophelia" <OphElsnore@gmail.com>: Mar 12 06:10PM

"Bruce" wrote in message news:qgqf8elk361i6clcp2l9ivuasg15au46v2@4ax.com...
 
On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 11:05:11 -0000, "Ophelia" <OphElsnore@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
>recipient.
 
>==
 
>Oohh that sounds good to me:))) What did the other 'recipient' have?
 
The same. I meant to say that I didn't cook it. I only ate it :)
 
==
 
Awwwww do you cook?? Hmmm???
Bruce <bruce@invalid.invalid>: Mar 13 05:29AM +1100

On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 18:10:06 -0000, "Ophelia" <OphElsnore@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
 
>The same. I meant to say that I didn't cook it. I only ate it :)
 
>==
 
>Awwwww do you cook?? Hmmm???
 
Yes, but not as often as I should.
"Ophelia" <OphElsnore@gmail.com>: Mar 12 06:33PM

"Bruce" wrote in message news:cjuf8e9cp4u5pvssacpaqol4k3vbseetrt@4ax.com...
 
On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 18:10:06 -0000, "Ophelia" <OphElsnore@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
 
>The same. I meant to say that I didn't cook it. I only ate it :)
 
>==
 
>Awwwww do you cook?? Hmmm???
 
Yes, but not as often as I should.
 
==
 
What do you cook, when you do ... iyswim? :)
Bruce <bruce@invalid.invalid>: Mar 13 06:04AM +1100

On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 18:33:53 -0000, "Ophelia" <OphElsnore@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
 
>Yes, but not as often as I should.
 
>==
 
>What do you cook, when you do ... iyswim? :)
 
Indonesian, for instance. Nasi, ikan bali (fish) or tempeh goreng
(fried tempeh), for instance. Everything as spicy as we can just
handle, of course :)
"Ophelia" <OphElsnore@gmail.com>: Mar 12 06:45PM

Very strong (it was cooked very slowly for around 2 days (as I learned
here:) It is beautiful and smells heavenly.
 
I haven't made it for a very long time, but thanks to you all for
encouraging me:))
 
What would you make with it?
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