Tuesday, June 4, 2019

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 10 topics

"Ophelia" <OphElsnore@gmail.com>: Jun 04 08:14PM +0100

wrote in message news:fbtcfe5brr14tlvme4159ujf3gki3ceigu@4ax.com...
 
On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 09:53:36 +0100, "Ophelia" <OphElsnore@gmail.com>
wrote:
>like to cook from scratch, but I always have plenty for the dishwasher,not
>just two plates and utensils!
 
>Does anyone else have only two plates and utensils??
 
There's just two of us, why would we put out service for three?
 
Everything I use to prep gets cleaned and put away while the dish is
cooking... by the time I serve there is nothing to clean other than
plates and utensils we're using and that takes me ten minutes right
after eating and brushing my teeth. Left overs are still cooling in
their pot so go into the fridge later and the next day I portion them
for the fridge and for the freezer, and scrub the pot. People who
actually know how to cook clean as they go, unless they have a maid.
Restaurant cooks don't need to clean as they go because they have a
maid who scrubs pots, pans, bowls, etc., usually refered to as "Deep
Sink Willy"... a real commercial kitchen contains no soaps or glass.
Restaurant dishes and eating utensils go into a large dishwasher in
its own room, the scullery. Barware is washed by hand by the
barkeeper, when a table is cleared the barware is returned to the bar.
Some restaurants have a separate more gentle washer for glassware.
Restaurant cooks do clean their personal items like knives.
At home I wouldn't put my cookware/bakeware/cutlery or woodenware in
the dishwasher anyway, nor good glassware. Even our good company
dishes and eating utensils are washed by hand. Most of my
cookware/bakeware won't fit in the dishwasher.
 
We each use the same coffee mugs every morning, afterwards they are
hand washed and put back on their cuphook all ready for the next day.
I only have coffee in the morning. My wife drinks tea all day and
uses the same cup all day, just keeps refilling it... typically ends
up on her night table so is washed in the morning. Everything in our
home lives in a particular place, especially in the kitchen, that's
one reason why I do all the cooking, everything gets put back where it
lives. When I arrange the pantry items everything is lined up like
soldiers with all labels facing front. Everything in our fridge and
freezer is arranged in a purposeful way, I never need to search, even
in the dark all I need to do is reach in. We're very organized, a
dishwasher would wreak havoc on our routine, would just cause us
grief. We both like to have everything returned to where it lives all
ready to be used again, immediately, same as normal people do with
their toothbrush.
 
==
 
LOL ok, I will leave "Deep Sink Willy" to you. I will use my
dishwasher as I want and need:))) It works for us:))
Bruce <bruce@invalid.invalid>: Jun 05 05:17AM +1000

On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 20:10:26 +0100, "Ophelia" <OphElsnore@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
 
>You 2 must eat a lot on weekends.
 
>===
 
> Why? We don't only eat at weekends, I do a lot of prep too!
 
Sure, if you cook ahead etc.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 04 12:22PM -0700

On Tuesday, June 4, 2019 at 2:06:58 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> on my own I do dishes by hand. I have a dishwasher and I do not use it.
> I hate loading and unloading it.
>'
Yes, I would use it. Also, I'd probably opt for a smaller size d/w. But
loading and unloading is no different than performing that task with a
countertop dish drainer.
"Ophelia" <OphElsnore@gmail.com>: Jun 04 08:26PM +0100

"Bruce" wrote in message news:mtgdfeh5t0a5p1f7j9pl41vejgs1f7gqe7@4ax.com...
 
On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 20:10:26 +0100, "Ophelia" <OphElsnore@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
 
>You 2 must eat a lot on weekends.
 
>===
 
> Why? We don't only eat at weekends, I do a lot of prep too!
 
Sure, if you cook ahead etc.
 
==
 
Yes, that too!
lucretiaborgia@fl.it: Jun 04 04:46PM -0300

On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 11:10:31 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net"
>was a child my 2 at home brothers and I were 'suppose' to take turns washing
>dishes. Soon that job became mine and I HATED it but I don't mind it so much
>now, but not a favorite chore by any means.
 
Assume you have seen the half size dishwashers? If I was redoing my
kitchen now I would get one of those so I could fill and run more
often. However I really don't do food entertaining anymore so am not
going to redo the kitchen :)
Bruce <bruce@invalid.invalid>: Jun 05 04:40AM +1000

On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 09:19:12 -0400, Dave Smith
>told her to leave her breakfast dishes in the sink and I will wash them
>with mine. The dishwasher will not be used until after she gets back. I
>prefer to take a couple minutes to do the dishes by hand.
 
Thanks for sharing.
Jack Granade <laffin@u.none>: Jun 04 02:43PM -0400

> Every chimpanzee knows that.
 
You look like a kike chimp:
 
https://imgur.com/a/l6YDTQb
Bruce <bruce@invalid.invalid>: Jun 05 04:44AM +1000

On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 07:46:52 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> two plates and untensils
 
>Of course not. I run the dishwasher when it's full. Every
>day, sometimes twice on a weekend day.
 
You 2 must eat a lot on weekends.
"Ophelia" <OphElsnore@gmail.com>: Jun 04 08:19PM +0100

"Gary" wrote in message news:5CF675DC.32B4ACB8@att.net...
 
Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> oregano, basil, sliced olives, mushrooms, garlic, salt, sugar,
> spaghetti noodles and...um, love. What a pain in the ass!
> I think of this dish and tuna casserole as "belly filler".
 
That sounds good PLUS I've had in mind to make a tuna casserole
the last week or two. I always liked them well enough as long as
it's not too often. It has been maybe 10 years now (just guessing
but probably longer than that).
 
A good homemade tuna casserole is nothing for anyone to turn
their nose up about.
 
==
 
Who knows? I've never had one:))
"Ophelia" <OphElsnore@gmail.com>: Jun 04 08:20PM +0100

"heyjoe" wrote in message news:qd6053$po9$1@dont-email.me...
 
On Tue, 04 Jun 2019 09:45:00 -0400
in Message-ID: <news:5CF675DC.32B4ACB8@att.net>
 
>good homemade tuna casserole
 
That's right up there with "flood control", "good grief" and "ill
health". An oxymoron of the highest degree.
 
=====
 
Are you saying it is not something I ought to try??
"Ophelia" <OphElsnore@gmail.com>: Jun 04 08:21PM +0100

"heyjoe" wrote in message news:qd68ug$g37$1@dont-email.me...
 
On Tue, 04 Jun 2019 10:55:18 -0400
in Message-ID: <news:5CF68656.C10F6813@att.net>
 
>> That's right up there with "flood control", "good grief" and "ill
>> health". An oxymoron of the highest degree.
 
> Ok, you convinced me. I'll make one tomorrow. :)
 
What tuna do you buy? Canned or pouch?
 
Just curious, as my biggest problem with tuna is the smell, overly
fishy, IMO. But am willing to learn about a better product, as I like
fish, in general.
 
=====
 
Oh dear, you have put me right off. :(
"Ophelia" <OphElsnore@gmail.com>: Jun 04 08:56PM +0100

"dsi1" wrote in message
news:a5fbdab5-9314-445f-b3a3-371cffb1ac0d@googlegroups.com...
 
On Tuesday, June 4, 2019 at 12:15:38 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
 
> But only in the US do disgruntled retards walk around with a gun. To
> each their own, of course. Enjoy.
 
My wife's great-grandfather did walk/ride around with a gun. It's how the
freakin' West was won! :)
 
https://yesteryearsnews.wordpress.com/2009/02/26/flopping-bill-cleans-the-ranges-of-desperados/
 
===
 
:))))
"Ophelia" <OphElsnore@gmail.com>: Jun 04 08:36PM +0100

"notbob" wrote in message news:glnbp4Feoh1U1@mid.individual.net...
 
I jes ran across this:
 
"The Ingredient You Should Be Adding to yer Pasta Sauce". "it's not
sugar" .....or cinnamon!
 
https://www.rd.com/food/recipes-cooking/add-butter-to-pasta-sauce/
 
Who knew!? .....besides Marcella. ;)
 
nb
 
==
 
Me:)) Butter makes it all taste wonderful:))
Hank Rogers <nospam@invalid.org>: Jun 04 02:44PM -0500

> off a paper sack of veggies at my neighbor's side door won't be long
> I'll find a pint of honey by my door. He'd leave me a larger amount
> but he knows that a pint will last me a year.
 
That wasn't honey Popeye! It was a burning bag of dogshit.
Hank Rogers <nospam@invalid.org>: Jun 04 02:48PM -0500

Bruce wrote:
 
> You should hook up with Janet UK. You two could go door to door with
> your vegetables, holding hands and singing authentic folk songs along
> the way.
 
I always buy his canned spinach. Popeye spinach is certified Popeye
approved, so it is the finest in the universe.
 
I'll subscribe if he starts home delivery.
graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: Jun 04 01:21PM -0600

> thing were done or added and how it effected the end results.
 
> I guess a great many of us now who know these things from watching his shows
> are too sophisticated to have anything explained to us.
 
He could do it without the pathetic "humour".
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 04 12:26PM -0700

On Tuesday, June 4, 2019 at 2:21:26 PM UTC-5, graham wrote:
 
> > I guess a great many of us now who know these things from watching his shows
> > are too sophisticated to have anything explained to us.
 
> He could do it without the pathetic "humour".
 
It got people to pay attention and learn something other than add, mix, cook.
Bruce <bruce@invalid.invalid>: Jun 05 05:39AM +1000

On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 12:26:06 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net"
>> > are too sophisticated to have anything explained to us.
 
>> He could do it without the pathetic "humour".
 
>It got people to pay attention and learn something other than add, mix, cook.
 
If his target audience was children under 10, his humour was spot on.
"Ophelia" <OphElsnore@gmail.com>: Jun 04 08:27PM +0100

"notbob" wrote in message news:glnal3FehddU1@mid.individual.net...
 
True oyster sauce seems to becoming a rarity.
 
Years ago, I usta buy the Lee Kum Kee real oyster sauce in their
traditional 240g jars. Even saw an old documentary on how it was made
(using real oysters).
 
Now, all I can seem to find is the Lee Kum Kee "oyster flavored" sauce,
in large bottles. Is all the oyster sauce now an "oyster flavored"
sauce? I can see it, oysters becoming more rare.
 
 
I jes noticed I'm also currently out of any soy sauce. I like the
Kimlan brand (Taiwan). Not available, locally, so I gotta order it,
online.
 
Soy is Chinese in origin. Kikkoman is Japanese. All Asian cultures
have their own favorite brand. ;)
 
nb
 
==
 
I have some oyster sauce. How do you use it?
penmart01@aol.com: Jun 04 02:24PM -0400

>Too much trouble to collect the infrequent ingredients.
>Much nicer to buy a freshly made pint from a good
>Chinese restaurant occasionally. :)
 
I prefer making my own Chinese soups, they are easy and fast... and I
think mine are better.... most of the odd ingredients are readily
available in cans/bottles, everything else at the produce department .
And I make a double quantity. enough for two days.
Most Chinese restaurant soups are awful... they come out of a #10 can,
heated and thickened. How do you think they can serve you in ten
minute, ten minute... no matter what you order it's always ten minute,
ten minute.. why do they always say ten minute twice, do they really
mean twenty minute and expect you to have a abacus?
However I'd much rather a store bought premium icecream. Most people
who attempt homemade waste good ingredients, typically too hard and
too sweet.
"Ophelia" <OphElsnore@gmail.com>: Jun 04 08:28PM +0100

"Gary" wrote in message news:5CF66E79.FEB910BC@att.net...
 
Ophelia wrote:
 
> I got big one. <Ice cream maker>
> I ended up giving it to the grands:)
 
I was once gifted a nice but too large electric
deep fryer. Good for frequent large amounts of
cooking but not for me. I just use a dedicated,
fairly small saucepan for the rare times I deep fry.
 
I ended up giving it to my daughter but I doubt she
uses it either. oh well.
 
Same with ice cream, as seldom as I eat ice cream,
I'll just buy some occasionally.
 
Also with my (probably) favorite soup - Hot&Sour soup.
Too much trouble to collect the infrequent ingredients.
Much nicer to buy a freshly made pint from a good
Chinese restaurant occasionally. :)
 
===
 
Sounds good to me, if you like that one:)))
"Ophelia" <OphElsnore@gmail.com>: Jun 04 08:30PM +0100

wrote in message news:socdfe1ft38b5e5cl8ctdlvrk721aeg53l@4ax.com...
 
>Too much trouble to collect the infrequent ingredients.
>Much nicer to buy a freshly made pint from a good
>Chinese restaurant occasionally. :)
 
I prefer making my own Chinese soups, they are easy and fast... and I
think mine are better.... most of the odd ingredients are readily
available in cans/bottles, everything else at the produce department .
And I make a double quantity. enough for two days.
Most Chinese restaurant soups are awful... they come out of a #10 can,
heated and thickened. How do you think they can serve you in ten
minute, ten minute... no matter what you order it's always ten minute,
ten minute.. why do they always say ten minute twice, do they really
mean twenty minute and expect you to have a abacus?
However I'd much rather a store bought premium icecream. Most people
who attempt homemade waste good ingredients, typically too hard and
too sweet.
 
==
 
Please share your Hot&Sour soup!
"Ophelia" <OphElsnore@gmail.com>: Jun 04 08:31PM +0100

"dsi1" wrote in message
news:25fa5d5b-0eea-4374-936b-bf44782d229b@googlegroups.com...
 
On Monday, June 3, 2019 at 11:57:05 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
 
> Thanks:) That sounds like it might be tasty poured over other things
> too:))
 
> Today I am making seafood fried rice. What would you add to that?
 
Oyster sauce, soy sauce, sugar, and sesame oil would work fine for a Chinese
style fried rice. There's all kinds of fried rice around here. These days
I'm partial to making fried rice with kim chee. It's kind of a thing around
here.
 
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/07/e8/ce/07e8cefabfa7b550691bc364ea0c9596.jpg
 
====
 
Thanks very much:))))
Pamela <pamela.poster@gmail.com>: Jun 04 07:02PM +0100


> https://www.rd.com/food/recipes-cooking/add-butter-to-pasta-sauce/
 
> Who knew!? .....besides Marcella. ;)
 
> nb
 
There's much to be learned from Marcella's books, but I'm no fan of using
onion the way she suggests because it takes the tang out of the tomato.
 
Must be an old web page because she's died.
graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: Jun 04 01:20PM -0600

On 2019-06-04 1:06 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> concessions at all to our prime minister and would force a deal that
> Trudeau would be too embarrassed to sign. He denied saying it, but
> someone had him on tape saying it, and he dismissed it as fake news.
 
It's pathetic and scary that many 1000s believe him!
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