Monday, April 27, 2020

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 15 topics

Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Apr 27 11:33AM -0400

Bruce wrote:
> If you eat an animal, it still died for nothing.
 
No, it died to feed another. That's not for nothing.
 
> If a cannibal kills
> and eats you, will you think, just before you die, "at least they're
> eating me"?
 
You're just twisting, Bruce.
If a wild australian dog killS and eats YOU, it will live and
be able to feed her baby wild puppies. Fair trade.
 
My Mom(tm) once asked me about that.
"What if you die and your ferrets eat you?"
"No worries, Mom. Once I'm dead I would hope that
they eat my body in order to survive."
 
Only problem there is that I know once I was discovered, the
newspaper headlines would read, "FERRETS EAT GARY!"
"MAN EATING FERRETS!" Then they would be killed by our
nifty "authorities."
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Apr 27 09:01AM -0400

On 2020-04-27 8:32 a.m., Gary wrote:
>> lucky, I'll get the first shot at it. And then there was none...
 
> Sounds to me like your gardener might be related to
> Dave's "big niece." :)
 
The difference would be that the niece works and pays her own way. This
guy is just a dead beat sponging off a martyr.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Apr 27 11:33AM -0400

Bruce wrote:
> >> the little fat Commie drops dead?
 
> >Well yes - for starters.
 
> It would make a lot more sense than wishing him well.
 
Not good diplomacy, pal. You only say something like that
right before you start a war.
 
> Trump gets everything wrong. Everything.
 
We all know that everything that goes wrong is
Trumps fault. No need to keep repeating it.
 
> Any Americans want to be injected with disinfectant?
 
Do you remember that recently Sheldon said that he sent
a letter to the White House advising Trump that
Crystal Palace can be the cure for this.
 
That might be why he said that. ;)
 
In real life though, Sheldon might be on to something there.
Think about it. If alcohol can kill the virus, may be that
people that drink (and have alcohol in their blood) might
be a bit more resistent to it.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Apr 27 11:31AM -0400


> Well, my nephew had a pet ferret and it would mark its' territory and it
> was a VERY distinctive odor. Maybe because its' scent glands had not
> been removed but it was quite pungent.
 
Actually, marking territory is a urine thing, not a scent
gland thing. His ferret wasn't spayed/neutered. My one
male ferret was.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Apr 27 08:39AM -0400

dsi1 wrote:
 
> The reality is that nuclear power is our cleanest and safest
> source at this time.
 
That's what's powering my lights and computer now. I never worry
about it. It's located maybe about 70 miles from here.
If that ever melts down our only worry will be if the
wind is blowing our way. Plenty safe from earthquakes
and tsunami's though.
 
My company is about to make offshore windmills soon
though. (and there goes the cheap electric bills)
 
> The old farts think that we have all the time in the world
> to work on this problem. That's not what the kids are feeling,
 
Aren't you an old fart too?
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Apr 27 08:58AM -0400

On 2020-04-27 2:07 a.m., songbird wrote:
 
> i'm not interested in self-serving excuses from the older people who
> think they are not responsible for the mess they've made even when
> the science has been clear for many years.
 
With all due respects, I would suggest that the miserable old bastards
started working on cleaning up the environment years ago. Our
grandparents had been a lot less respect for the land and nature than we
have. They clear cut forests, spewed industrial smoke into the air and
dumped chemicals and biological pollutants into streams and rivers. I
don't think you can imagine how much worse it would be now if they had
not started to clean up their act more than 60 years ago.
 
Maybe our biggest fault was trying to do too much for our children and
turned then into hypocritical snow flakes.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Apr 27 11:26AM -0400


>> The old farts think that we have all the time in the world
>> to work on this problem. That's not what the kids are feeling,
 
>Aren't you an old fart too?
 
There aren't nearly as many old farts as there are 16-26 year olds
increasing the population way beyond manageable at the speed of light.
The biggest blight on this planet is over population... I hate that my
tax dollars are supporting yoose and your useless nincompoop spawn.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Apr 27 11:30AM -0400

Bruce wrote:
> Please stop referring to 30 and 40 year olds as kids.
> A kid is under 18.
 
I will disagree with you there.
There's no light switch that you turn on at age
18 that magically transforms you into an adult.
 
At age 18 many kids are "officially" adults but
that's just a political definition depending on
where you live and current laws.
 
Many of these "adults" can be drafted for a war.
In the USA, it's the year you turn 19.
But many aren't allowed to drink until age 21.
 
18 year old kids still think they know everything
and the ones that go to college are still supported
by their parents for several more years.
 
In my case, I watched my daughter grow and mature
and all her friends too. It's a slow process. Might
start at age 18 but IMO, a true adult begins at
age 25, on average.
 
As I said though, it's a progression over many years
and not an automatic age.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Apr 27 11:30AM -0400

Hank Rogers wrote:
 
> Bruce wrote:
> > A kid is under 18.

> No, a kid is a young goat.
 
heh heh. Very true and they are also way under age 18.
 
Goats are odd but friendly creatures with alien eyes.
Remember the old cartoons that always showed goats
eating tin cans? lol
 
And then in real life, we have goats that climb trees.
How crazy is that? Probably since they still can't
get a driver's license yet.
 
http://viralcircus.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/goats1.jpg
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Apr 27 11:31AM -0400

Bruce wrote:
> >still be there! >;-o
 
> >She got the message! :)
 
> And fell pregnant?
 
Yes. At age 30 after she got married.
That doesn't mean she didn't have sex before
but a "Dad" doesn't what to hear about that. :)
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Apr 27 11:31AM -0400

Bruce wrote:
 
> Meat eaters have no morals whatsoever. They should shut up
> and be ashamed of themselves.
 
Are you ashamed of yourself, Bruce?
You could remedy your situation if it bothers you.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Apr 27 11:05AM -0400

>worked but once (many years ago), I used a pound of
>ground hot sausage instead of ground beef. It was amazing
>and much improved taste.
 
What's to write down... I've done that all the time for over 50 years,
with freshly ground pork and/or beef, Italian seasonings, canned
crushed and diced tomatoes, onion, garlic, red pepper flakes, s n'p, I
like it tossed with small shells pasta. That was one of my favorite
grade school lunches, that or tomato soup with frankfurter coins. I've
never tasted Hamburger helper.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Apr 27 11:08AM -0400

On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 22:15:42 -0700 (PDT), Bruce
 
>> It's very good. I think you could substitute rice for the pasta or make it
>> as sort of a meat gravy and serve over toast, biscuits or mashed potatoes.
 
>Another one of your witless "food" troll posts. lol
 
You wouldn't laughing after it was dumped over your thick skull.
LOL-LOL
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Apr 27 11:31AM -0400

Julie Bove wrote:
> Cooked Pasta
> Seasonings of choice
 
> It's very good.
 
Sounds good to me but I'm surprised that you liked it.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Apr 27 11:31AM -0400

On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 19:59:29 -0500, Terry Coombs <snag_one@msn.com>
wrote:
 
>was a "German shepherd mix" on paper , but we're pretty sure she was
>half coyote . She made it to 13 , got into it with a critter out in the
>woods and was badly injured , we ended up putting her down .
 
WTF was the old girl loose in the woods??? an imbecile dog keeper!
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Apr 27 08:24AM -0700

Six tomato plants, six tomato plant cages the CORRECT WAY!
 
https://i.postimg.cc/HWJMTkvH/Six-tomato-cages-2-4-27-2020.jpg
 
https://i.postimg.cc/mDkbNh1r/Six-tomato-cages-1-4-27-2020.jpg
 
Cage 'em when young, it's much easier :-)
 
John Kuthe...
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Apr 27 10:08AM -0500

On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 10:05:34 -0400, Sheldon Martin wrote:
 
>>ValrhonaDroste, Ghiradelli ). Any thoughts?
 
> Penzeys is by far the best:
> https://www.penzeys.com/online-catalog/natural-cocoa-powder/c-24/p-913/pd-s
 
If Penzy's sold dog turds you would claim they're the best, too. If
you really knew this then you'd have mentioned which variety.
 
I thought you dumped Penzey's about 10 years ago after you found out
he was a homo and then disguised the complaint as a long-winded
shipping complaint and vowed never to order from them again.
 
Penzey's is simply the cheapest shit they can get and sell for the
biggest markup. A high turnover bulk spice section at the grocery
store (all temporally closed to self service - pre-bagged) is just
as good as Penzey's at 1/4rd the cost. Almost all the retail cocoa
powder comes from Blommer or Mondelez (Nestle). I don't even think
Hersheys processes beans any more.
 
-sw
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Apr 27 10:05AM -0400

On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 12:38:18 +0100, WilliePartingto
>it with the Kroger brand. I'm quite pleased with the results but I'm
>wondering if it's worth it to try some of the finer brands (Guittard,
>ValrhonaDroste, Ghiradelli ). Any thoughts?
 
Penzeys is by far the best:
https://www.penzeys.com/online-catalog/natural-cocoa-powder/c-24/p-913/pd-s
Silvar Beitel <silverbeetle@charter.net>: Apr 27 07:40AM -0700

On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 8:10:14 AM UTC-4, WilliePartingto wrote:
> it with the Kroger brand. I'm quite pleased with the results but I'm
> wondering if it's worth it to try some of the finer brands (Guittard,
> ValrhonaDroste, Ghiradelli ). Any thoughts?
 
I have good old Hersheys, Ghiradelli (this stuff, I think: <https://www.ghirardelli.com/100-unsweetened-ground-cocoa-%288-oz%29-61703cs>) and both the regular and Dutch-process Penzeys cocoa. I am unable to tell you if one is better than the the others; they all seem to work fine in the cakes, cookies, and hot chocolate drinks I've made.
 
Dammit. Now I've got the jones for a childhood favorite: Snow-on-the-Mountain cookies (what my mother and her mother called 'em.)
 
This recipe looks about right:
<https://amandascookin.com/chocolate-crinkle-cookies/>
 
--
Silvar Beitel
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Apr 27 10:31AM -0400

On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 Bruce wrote:
 
>On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 james.walker wrote:
 
>>All natural stone is porous, including marble
 
>Sheldon's head isn't porous. It doesn't let any information through.
 
If yoose had a functioning brain and could bake even a lick yoose
would realize it's refering to a "BAKER'S stone (a work surface), NOT
a stone that goes into an oven like a silly/useless pizza stone.
We sll know that Brwucie can't cook/bake/nada... Brwucie is only here
as a semen receptical, to sniff anuses, and to suck the shit stains
out of underpants.
Silvar Beitel <silverbeetle@charter.net>: Apr 27 07:04AM -0700

Ho-hum regular ingredients: About 2 cups cooked white-meat chicken cubes, a diced onion, a diced celery rib, maybe 3 Tbsp mayo (Hellman's), maybe more, some salt.
 
MAGIC SECRET ingredient: Berbere. A good 2+ Tbsp's worth.
 
See <https://www.daringgourmet.com/berbere-ethiopian-spice-blend/> or
<https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/255863/berbere-spice-blend/>
 
I use mild dried New Mexico chiles plus one hot one when I make my berbere so it doesn't turn out taste-bud-killingly hot, but you can do what you want.
 
The chicken salad looks totally unappetizing (lumpy, brown) but throw some into a half pita with lettuce and holy smokes. So good I just HAD to post about it. :-)
 
--
Silvar Beitel
Terry Coombs <snag_one@msn.com>: Apr 27 08:23AM -0500

On 4/27/2020 7:34 AM, Gary wrote:
> it cool then reheat in a microwave later if necessary.
 
> If I brew more than one cup, I'll wrap it in a kitchen towel
> to keep warm rather than keep it on a heat source.
 
  I drink mine within an hour of making it . The second cup is just as
tasty as the first ... and I start every day with a cup - right after
Max and I have our morning walk . Put the coffee on to brew , by the
time we get back it's ready . Now if I could only get him to sleep in a
little , he gets up as soon as it's light and expects me to do the same .
 
--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Apr 27 09:52AM -0400

Terry Coombs wrote:
> Max and I have our morning walk . Put the coffee on to brew , by the
> time we get back it's ready . Now if I could only get him to sleep in a
> little , he gets up as soon as it's light and expects me to do the same .
 
My cat (lived to be 19.5) would always sleep on the end of my
bed. Right about 4am, he would wake up and purposely walk right
over me then go to his litter box in the bathroom.
 
So I got up too and went to make coffee. Cat was waiting
for me in the kitchen for his morning can of meat breakfast.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Apr 27 09:42AM -0400

jmcquown wrote:
> walks of life. The only ones I've encountered pushing an agenda when it
> comes to food are the people who *don't* eat meat. I'm sure as hell not
> trying to shove a nice tender (medium rare) steak down anyone's throat.
 
You're always welcome to shove one down my throat, Jill! :-D
 
> at me because I choose to eat meat. I don't try to convince him he
> should eat meat. No skin off my nose what he eats. We get along just
> fine. :)
 
Here's a funny. My stepdaughter (lives in the SF bay area)
is a vegetarian and doesn't preach it. She comes for a visit
about once every 3-4 years.
 
When she does come, she always requests a "Dad chicken dinner
with all the works." (Think a traditional Thanksgiving dinner
only using chicken rather than turkey). heh heh
 
The first time she requested that, I just *had* to ask.
It's her "vacation back east treat." The only time she
eats meat. Funny girl.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Apr 27 08:36AM -0400

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> Again, you overestimate the power of the federal government. Our
> Constitution deliberately gives those powers to the states and not
> to the Fed.
 
 
Not only that but even many citizens are protesting (in large
groups) against their own governors and the stay at home
restrictions.
 
Even in those areas, it's just the vocal crowd that makes
the news. I suspect that many in those areas will still
opt on the side of caution. I know I will.
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