Sunday, May 31, 2020

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Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: May 31 09:53AM -0400

On Sun, 31 May 2020 04:23:47 -0700, Taxed and Spent
>> are sold in many places (online and in stores).
 
>> ill
 
>best to keep glass out of the prep and cooking areas.
 
Exzactly. I have a set of stainless steel bowls with snap-on lids,
some quite small... however I rarely prep ingredients in advance,
instead I prep as I place ingredients into the pot/bowl. Sometimes
I'll measure out ingredients onto a piece of paper, saves clean up...
however I rarely measure other than via eyeball.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: May 31 10:16AM -0400

On 2020-05-31 9:53 a.m., Sheldon Martin wrote:
> instead I prep as I place ingredients into the pot/bowl. Sometimes
> I'll measure out ingredients onto a piece of paper, saves clean up...
> however I rarely measure other than via eyeball.
 
I have couple large cutting boards that I use for mis en place. I
slice and chop the things that will be going in and them slide them off
the board into the pan or pot as needed. I can use one for vegetables
and one for meet.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: May 31 11:19AM -0400

On 5/31/2020 10:16 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> slice and chop the things that will be going in and them slide them off
> the board into the pan or pot as needed.  I can use one for vegetables
> and one for meet.
 
Chopping/cutting boards are one thing. Ramekins are used for small
amounts of herbs and spices during food prep. The OP wanted to know
what they're called. I completely understand if a dish calls for a lot
of ingredients the desire to measure (okay, guestimate) a Tbs of this
and a tsp of that and put it in ramekins. That way you know you have
everything ready and on hand. And if you suddenly discover you don't,
oh dear, need to run to the store or find a substitute.
 
Jill
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: May 31 11:30AM -0400

On 5/31/2020 8:02 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> <https://www.amazon.com/OXO-Grips-Angled-Measuring-Clear/dp/B00FYL4MPY/>
 
> Although I didn't pay $17 for mine.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
Nice but pricey. The mini is double the cost of the 2 cup. I guess
they are still amortizing the tooling cost.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: May 31 11:36AM -0400

On 5/31/2020 11:30 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
 
>> Cindy Hamilton
 
> Nice but pricey.  The mini is double the cost of the 2 cup.  I guess
> they are still amortizing the tooling cost.
 
I still have pyrex glass measuring cups.
 
I do have some stainless bowls with lids but they're mixing bowls, not
measures.
 
Jill
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: May 31 11:11AM -0400

On 5/31/2020 6:51 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> Weekly, biweekly, semimonthly, monthly are all common.
 
> I get paid semimonthly. When my husband was working, he was paid monthly.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
Over the years at different jobs I was paid bi-weekly, weekly, monthly.
I like monthly best. Just sit down one time, pay the bills and what is
left over is yours.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: May 31 11:25AM -0400

On 5/31/2020 11:11 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> Over the years at different jobs I was paid bi-weekly, weekly, monthly.
> I like monthly best.  Just sit down one time, pay the bills and what is
> left over is yours.
 
The first job I had where I was paid monthly it took a couple of weeks
to get used to. Once I was used to it I liked it. Like you, I just sat
down and paid all my bills at one time. I put the extra money in the
bank. :)
 
Jill
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: May 31 11:27AM -0400

On 2020-05-31 11:11 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
 
 
> Over the years at different jobs I was paid bi-weekly, weekly, monthly.
> I like monthly best.  Just sit down one time, pay the bills and what is
> left over is yours.
 
I have been paid weekly, biweekly then, for many years, semi monthly. My
wife was a teacher she was paid once a month. Around here teachers are
paid an annual salary, but it is based on the number of teaching days,
so if they are off more days than their sick pay allows, or if they take
unpaid leave, they loose a a significant about. When we were first
married they good a big cheque at the end of the school year and then a
another big on in September, so they had to budget that big June pay for
three months. Later on they changed to equal pay for all 12 months.
 
 
I had an issue with overtime. They only paid it once ever few months.
When the OT pay finally came through you would get a huge gross pay, but
then they would withhold income tax as if that was your regular pay, so
you could kiss half of it goodbye until income tax time when you would
be likely to get a big refund.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: May 31 11:35AM -0400

On 5/31/2020 9:01 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> My frank opinion? He's too narcissistic to read what we write with
> any attention and too mentally scattered to write clearly.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
Yep, it's narcissistic. I'm not sure why Kuthe thinks anyone cares how
many hours he's worked. He said he got a job. I believe him. Then he
gets home and runs straight to the computer to cuss everyone out on RFC.
What is the point?
 
Jill
Boron Elgar <boron_elgar@hotmail.com>: May 31 09:48AM -0400

>https://heyjackass.com/
 
>They give victims by race but most assailant is unknown though seems to
>be a trend.
 
I went in to look for more detail about the study the NPR piece
mentions. I have not gone into deep dive of the stats themselves, but
can only see several articles that reference it, including the study
itself:
 
https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2019/07/16/1903856116
 
Please keep in mind that the study was limited to 2015, and did not
have direct access to police records, but used a combination of data
gathering techniques- calling police department and used data gathered
by two media outlets, The Guardian and the Washington Post.
 
I do not have any deeper info to endorse or quibble with these data
collection techniques,nor the choice to use 2015 as the data focus,
though I, myself, am a tad surprised at using self-reported data from
police without outside verifications. Still, these numbers could be
spot on.
 
The reason I raise any question is that most states have laws that
prohibit the release of details of the officers involved in
disciplinary investigations.
 
Now, you might say that such disciplinary investigations incorporate
all police related shootings and death of civilians (example- Eric
Garner was not shot, nor was George Floyd), but we all know that many
of these incidents do not go into such investigations at all.
 
https://project.wnyc.org/disciplinary-records/
 
Twenty-three states prohibit officer data from being released to the
public.
 
Further, another fifteen limit data released.
 
Such information is key to understanding these shootings or deaths. It
is not just police shootings that cause civilian deaths, but
interactions from initial contact onward.
 
So, my advice is that we should all be careful with using limited and
specific stats to prove or disprove a larger, more general situation.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: May 31 09:50AM -0400

On 2020-05-31 9:32 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
> (need we remind him he's an American?) as if the US was the only country
> (a fairly new country, at the time) that had slaves.  I think we can all
> agree slavery was a horrific thing.
 
Actually, it was Africans who were the world leaders in the slave trade.
They waged war on their neighbours to capture people to be sold into
slavery. The Portuguese were the biggest transporters of slaves to the
Americas. While Britain did not ban slavery at home and it its colonies
until 1833 they had banned the slave trade more than 20 years earlier.
 
Slavery was indeed a horrific thing. It has been practiced around the
world for years. It is still happening. When my son was living in Africa
about 20 years ago he had a friend from Sudan whose parents had slaves.
Boron Elgar <boron_elgar@hotmail.com>: May 31 09:51AM -0400

On Sun, 31 May 2020 09:11:47 -0300, Lucretia Borgia
>>likes to try to throw it in my face once in a while to make herself feel
>>good.
 
>What an abusive rant. Now I wonder why you really retired early!
 
Cushy retirement, eh, especially from a guy who repeatedly whines
(often with racist overtones) about peeps getting social safety net
assistance here in the US.
 
Then again....maybe *they* retired him...
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: May 31 10:00AM -0400

On 2020-05-31 9:48 a.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
> interactions from initial contact onward.
 
> So, my advice is that we should all be careful with using limited and
> specific stats to prove or disprove a larger, more general situation.
 
Not wanting to be left out of the protest fever, there are were protests
in Toronto in solidarity with the Americans protested George Floyd, and
are also all worked up over the death of a black woman in Toronto. The
distressed mother of the dead woman accused the police of having pushed
her over the balcony. The woman was out out in the hallway and had no
way to see what happened but she believe they had pushed here.
 
What happened was that woman was in distress. There had been three 911
calls about her and two of them reported a knife. The woman jumped off
the balcony. She had been acting crazy enough that here own family had
called the police. Now they are upset because the police were not able
to deal calm her down before she took her own life.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: May 31 10:13AM -0400

On Sat, 30 May 2020 16:52:14 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net"
>unable to read the chart. I cannot make it any plainer for you nor do I
>have the inclination to have a small one-on-one class with pointer in hand.
 
>Can someone help out Bruce on this simple chart, he's having great difficulty.
 
I'm not sure about the rest of the world but there are very few pure
race people in the US, the majority are mixed race.... those charts
simply reflect the box people chose to check. Looking at those
rioters I'm sure very few know whose their daddy... even their mommy
doesn't know whose their daddy.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: May 31 10:13AM -0400

On 2020-05-31 9:51 a.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
>>> likes to try to throw it in my face once in a while to make herself feel
>>> good.
 
>> What an abusive rant. Now I wonder why you really retired early!
 
 
Wow.Another cheap shot by the old crone to discredit me. Retirement was
my choice. The government wanted to downsize. They wanted to reduce
staff and to contract out some of its operations. Thanks to job security
clauses in our contract it was not easy for them to just lay everyone
off, so they reduced the qualifying time for retirement with full
pension. I opted to retire.
 
 
 
 
 
> Cushy retirement, eh, especially from a guy who repeatedly whines
> (often with racist overtones) about peeps getting social safety net
> assistance here in the US.
 
I have stated repeatedly that it is important to have a social safety
net. I do object to a system which involves multiple generations of
welfare families. It should be there to help them get back on their
feet, not as a career.
 
 
> Then again....maybe *they* retired him...
 
Nope. You are wrong again.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: May 31 10:17AM -0400


>>> It was less than an hour ago :)
 
>>You're the one whining, show me which post hurt your feelings.
 
>You can't hurt my feelings.
 
It's patently obvious that you haven't any... any feelings/emotions
you may have had were discarded with your after birth.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: May 31 11:10AM -0400

On 5/29/2020 8:07 AM, Gary wrote:
> for me for almost 30 years. He always knows not to step
> inside too. He knows his place."
 
> That shocked me. So much for my "nice old lady" opinion.
 
What, you lived in a 'Driving Miss Daisy' moment? Don't paint everyone
with the same brush. If my landscaper is thirsty he won't come inside
because he's been tramping around in the yard and his shoes are dirty.
He'd be more than welcome to take his shoes off and come in for some
water. Then again, he has a truck with a big Coleman jug of ice water
because he's in the business of landscaping and knows it's hot outside
and he'll get thirsty.
 
> and are nice to "those people." They just don't consider
> blacks as equals (i.e. - they're 2nd class citizens)
> Kind of like treating your pets nicely.
 
Da south? I can't believe you're painting everyone with the same brush
as dsi1. Not to say there isn't racism, of course.
 
Racism was rampant in Memphis. (No need to bring up Dr. King). Years
later, and I've mentioned this before. In the early 1980's a co-worker
friend and I went to lunch together. She was black. She wanted to go
to Target to buy an alarm clock. Target had a lunch counter. After she
bought her alarm clock we went to have a bite to eat before going back
to the office. The black woman behind the counter took Clarisse's
order. Then she pointedly ignored me. Clarisse noticed and asked me,
"Does this happen often?" Unfortunately, yes. She spoke up, "Aren't
you going to take my SISTER's order?" The black woman started
sputtering, oh, uh, I didn't know, uh, may I take your order?
 
Yeah, we could have had different fathers or mothers. The lunch counter
woman had no idea. Clarisse, bless her, couldn't believe there was such
blantant reverse racism.
 
That was not the only time I encountered it in Memphis, either. In the
1990's I lived near a convenience store that had fryers and steam tables
and they served breakfast and lunch, mostly to go. I'd stop there on my
way to work to get biscuits & gravy. Yum! Occasionally some fried
chicken with potato logs (oh boy, battered quartered baking potatoes
deep fried) and some green beans to go with it. One of the black women
(Verniece) was very nice to me. The other woman (her name tag said Miss
Pinky) acted like she'd just as soon spit on me than serve me.
 
One Saturday afternoon I brought Verniece a container of homemade red
beans & rice with andouille sausage. I said I figured she might like
something to eat other than what they cooked every day for lunch. She
loved it!
 
I went back a few days later and Verneice said, "Miss Pinky kept asking
me what that was I was eating. I gave her a taste and she said 'Dis
shit is GOOD!'" (Miss) Pinky was nice as pie to me after that.
 
I don't have any idea why she automatically assumed I was an evil white
woman.
 
I don't encounter that sort of prejudice way down here in 'da South
South Carolina. People of any color don't act as if the Civil War is
still going on.
 
Jill
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: May 31 11:18AM -0400

>>because some idiot got himself killed in a tussle with the polices.
 
>I can't believe you don't understand what I'm saying. And then you
>call me stupid :)
 
It's you who are not comprehending... even taking into account the
ratio of blacks to whites blacks place themselves into predicaments
more frequently. Even at traffic stops blacks are three times more
likely to become beligerant, even with a black cop... blacks feel they
are stopped because they are black, even on a dark night, when all the
cop could see is that the car shot through a stop sign.
Working at a national laboratory I worked with many minority races and
people of every ethnicity. In any conflict they always feel targeted
because of their race, nationality, accent, religion, etc... and these
are highly educated scientists, most with Phds. These are people who
wake up each morning with a big chip on their shoulder... and
naturally the more highly educated the more they feel superior in all
ways.
 
I've been stopped for speeding several times over the years, I learned
a long time ago that the best way to behave is to keep my lip zipped,
keep my hands on the wheel in plain sight and to make no sudden moves
such as opening the door unless told to. I knew I was doing 72 in a
65 zone but by behaving in a respectful manner I stood a much better
chance of being told to watch my speed and get no ticket.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: May 31 11:18AM -0400

On 2020-05-31 10:13 a.m., Sheldon Martin wrote:
> simply reflect the box people chose to check. Looking at those
> rioters I'm sure very few know whose their daddy... even their mommy
> doesn't know whose their daddy.
 
Look at the rioters and you will see a lot of the Antifa crowd. They
will go a long way to participate in a riot. They will dress up in
black, wear scares and goggles to hide their indentity and go and and
create havoc. I doubt that they really care that much about the protest,
and their actions do more to undermine the real protest.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: May 31 11:22AM -0400


>>Thank you.
 
>All I was saying was that the graph didn't give much information.
 
>But I can't explain that to you, because you're dumb as a stick.
 
You need to get out your dictionary and look up "extrapolate".
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: May 31 11:27AM -0400

>> the whites, Hispanics and others protest as much. They seem to accept
>> that the person who got killed by the cops was in the wrong.
 
>The racial mix in the USA is not what you have in Canada.
 
The racial mix in Canada is grater only different races. I've
traveled all through Canada and everywhere people speak of the Indian
problem.
"cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net>: May 31 10:10AM -0500


> I'm wanting a smoker badly and yes, I want a Bradley because I'm lazy
> and don't want to have to feed it with chips every few hours. Be
> sure and report back on your results!
 
It's curing now. Thats an initial run with pam sprayed all around.
Cover the coil with foil when you spray then remove foil and operate
unit 2 hours.
"cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net>: May 31 10:19AM -0500

dsi1 wrote:
 
 
> Do you have to move it out of the elements or can it be just left
> outside? My dad used a 55 gal drum which he left outside. How heavy
> is that smoker? Thanks.
 
With a cover, it could be outside. It's on a covered slab built porch
for now.
"cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net>: May 31 10:24AM -0500

dsi1 wrote:
 
 
> Do you have to move it out of the elements or can it be just left
> outside? My dad used a 55 gal drum which he left outside. How heavy
> is that smoker? Thanks.
 
Oh, it's 55lbs.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: May 31 09:37AM -0400

On Sun, 31 May 2020 00:22:33 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> https://www.avg.com
 
>I think it was the Koreans that taught the Hawaiians how to appreciate spicy foods.
>Of course, so did the Vietnamese, Thais, and Indians in later years.
 
Actually hot pepper came from the Americas.
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