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| Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 01 06:03AM +1000 On Sun, 31 May 2020 14:33:25 -0500, heyjoe <sample@example.invalid> wrote: >> come from stupid people. >Isn't that the mind set of progrressives/liberals across the world? >Certainly appears that way to me. It wasn't an opinion. I was pointing out a rather obvious flaw in the stats. |
| Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: May 31 04:13PM -0400 On 2020-05-31 3:06 p.m., Lucretia Borgia wrote: >> assistance here in the US. >> Then again....maybe *they* retired him... > Yes, it does make one wonder. It's funny how some things make you wonder but that it is so hard to get you to use your brain. |
| Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: May 31 04:16PM -0400 >to be used in severe cases of asthma and COPD after milder >medications don't work so well. >I was overprescribed that once and it sure did work well. I use Symbicort, and others, Combivent Respimat works well too. The few people I speak to on the phone know... you refuse to speak on the phone. |
| "Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>: May 31 09:16PM +0100 "Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message news:73f411a2-d491-44e6-abee-5f198e8b60f1@googlegroups.com... On Sunday, May 31, 2020 at 3:35:29 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote: > https://www.npr.org/2019/07/26/745731839/new-study-says-white-police-officers-are-not-more-likely-to-shoot-minority-suspe > ==== > I am very grateful that no one here routinely carries guns:(((( I am now seized with an urge to buy a gun and carry it routinely. (In Michigan, you can't open-carry a gun that someone else has purchased, or I'd just grab one of my husband's guns.) Cindy Hamilton == We both have guns but for sport and we have licences for them. We would never carry them openly in public. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
| "Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>: May 31 09:17PM +0100 "dsi1" wrote in message news:ea9acdc6-3acb-4f8c-b735-e001a1a83f5b@googlegroups.com... On Saturday, May 30, 2020 at 10:27:39 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: > https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50032290 > ==== > OMG!!!!!!!!! Imagine that. You're playing video games with your young nephew, you hear somebody outside, you take a look, and then you're shot dead. === I don't want to imagine that!!! Nor would I want to live in a place that allows that:((( -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
| Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 01 06:21AM +1000 On Sun, 31 May 2020 15:16:34 -0500, heyjoe <sample@example.invalid> wrote: >conservatives think other opinions are stupid or intolerable. >OTOH, progressives/liberals have tried to remove Trump from the >presidency from the day he took office. The only problem with that is that they failed. |
| "Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>: May 31 09:26PM +0100 "dsi1" wrote in message news:86b5272e-b371-4b37-b22e-0e0cb77dbeea@googlegroups.com... On Sunday, May 31, 2020 at 12:25:54 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > A quick google of "police brutality Hawaii" yields quite a few hits. > Pot. Kettle. Black. > Cindy Hamilton Wrong. There's police brutality wherever you find police. My daughter's friend's brother was killed by the cops using a choke hold. The difference in my land is that you don't have half the people afraid of the other half. There's all kinds of people on this rock but we all share a common culture. We don't mind if you look different or have a heavy accent, we'll try to communicate/help/share with you anyway. The reality is that all you have to do to have a good time on this rock is to respect the Hawaiian/local culture. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP0L1uWzKG4 === Oh, she is the boss there eh? She is very lucky she didn't get a slap!!! What an arrogant cow!! |
| Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 01 05:45AM +1000 >Depending on how you slice-n-dice it, white people (includes several >hispanic groups) are 73% (or omiting latin american hispanic white' >54%). Black is 17%. Now look at the stats with that in mind. Exactly. Thank you. |
| Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: May 31 03:56PM -0500 Bruce wrote: >> OTOH, progressives/liberals have tried to remove Trump from the >> presidency from the day he took office. > The only problem with that is that they failed. *MAGA* |
| jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: May 31 05:17PM -0400 On 5/31/2020 4:16 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote: > I use Symbicort, and others, Combivent Respimat works well too. > The few people I speak to on the phone know... > you refuse to speak on the phone. He doesn't want to hear you breathing in his ear. ;) Jill |
| jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: May 31 06:16PM -0400 On 5/29/2020 10:48 AM, Dave Smith wrote: > There are two kinds of racists. There are those who think that black > people all like fried chicken and watermelon and those who would never > serve fried chicken or watermelon to guests. You are the latter. This discussion has gone beyond stupid. I love fried chicken (if it's done right, crispy and not greasy) but I don't like watermelon. Guess means I'm not black and only half racist. OB Food: I'm thinking about cheese soup with garlicky croutons Jill Jill |
| GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: May 31 02:27PM -0700 "...60's liberalism unraveled amid the subsequent nationwide wave of crime, unrest and disorder, which liberal mandarins and liberal machine politicians alike were unable to successfully manage or contain...there is a striking pattern of evidence, teased out in the research of the Princeton political scientist Omar Wasow, showing how peaceful civil rights protests helped Democrats win white votes, and then violence pushed white voters toward Republicans...looking at data from the civil rights era, Wasow argues that "proximity to black-led nonviolent protests increased white Democratic vote-share whereas proximity to black-led violent protests caused substantively important declines" — enough to tip the 1968 election from Hubert Humphrey to Nixon..." https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/30/opinion/sunday/riots-george-floyd.html The Case Against Riots What nonviolent protest gains, violent protest unravels. By Ross Douthat Opinion Columnist May 30, 2020 "In the origin myth of post-1960s liberalism, all the defeats that the Democratic Party suffered in the years of Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan were owed to the party's heroic support for civil rights, which rectified a great injustice but opened the way for the Republicans to build majorities on racial backlash. Like most myths, this story contains pieces of the truth. The battle over civil rights did accelerate the regional realignment of the parties; racial backlash did help the G.O.P. make gains in the once-Democratic South. But what ultimately doomed the old liberal majority wasn't just support for civil rights; that was on the ballot in 1964, when Barry Goldwater won the heart of the old Confederacy but Lyndon Johnson won everywhere else. Rather, liberalism unraveled amid the subsequent nationwide wave of crime, unrest and disorder, which liberal mandarins and liberal machine politicians alike were unable to successfully manage or contain. The riots of the '60s, from Watts to Washington, D.C., were only part of this story; the wider surge of murder, battery and theft probably mattered as much to realignment. But there is a striking pattern of evidence, teased out in the research of the Princeton political scientist Omar Wasow, showing how peaceful civil rights protests helped Democrats win white votes, and then violence pushed white voters toward Republicans. Looking at data from the civil rights era, Wasow argues that "proximity to black-led nonviolent protests increased white Democratic vote-share whereas proximity to black-led violent protests caused substantively important declines" — enough to tip the 1968 election from Hubert Humphrey to Nixon. More broadly, in news coverage and public opinion from those years, nonviolent protests (especially in the face of segregationist violence) increased support for civil rights, while violent protests tipped public opinion away from the protesters, and toward a stronger desire for what Nixon called law and order, and Wasow calls "social control." Some of this research was published in the spring of 2015, when the protests-turned-riots in Ferguson and Baltimore attracted left-wing and radical defenders. Back then, the center-left writer Jonathan Chait cited Wasow's findings in an essay accusing the pro-riot radicals of being politically delusional: "The physical damage inflicted upon poor urban neighborhoods by rioting," he wrote, "does not have the compensating virtue of easing the way for more progressive policies; instead, it compounds the damage by promoting a regressive backlash." In response, the more left-wing columnist Ryan Cooper argued that, in effect, that was then and this is now: Maybe riots weakened liberalism in the past, but the riots of 2015 were more localized and therefore less threatening, the America of 2015 was less white and therefore less easily threatened, and the Republicans of 2015 were "talking about prison reform, not Willie Horton." I would submit that subsequent events vindicated Chait, and that in hindsight the riots of 2015 — as well as the late Obama-era crime spike, and a cluster of high-profile cop killings in 2016 — helped create a late-1960s backlash moment in miniature. Republicans didn't abandon prison reform; indeed, they eventually helped pass a criminal-justice reform bill. But they stopped talking about that issue, or talking like civil libertarians in general, and they nominated a figure for president who sounded like Nixon on a good day and George Wallace on the rest. Which meant that 18 months after the Baltimore riots, the violence's major legacy was a still-wounded city — and the presidency of Donald Trump. You can't take this as proof that rioting never works, that it never succeeds in calling attention to an injustice that a more peaceful protest might incline the comfortable to downplay or ignore. But the political history of both the 1960s and the 2010s suggests a strong presumption against the political effectiveness of looting or vandalism or arson, to go along with the direct costs for the communities where riots are most likely to break out. For radicals, this presumption doesn't require shedding tears for the insurers of, say, a ransacked Minneapolis Target. It just requires recognizing that most spasms of robbery or arson aren't the revolution but often a ritual reaffirmation of the status quo — a period of misrule that doesn't try to establish an alternative order or permanently change any hierarchies, as a true revolution would, but instead leaves the lower orders poorer and the well-insured upper classes more or less restored. For liberals, meanwhile, or anyone committed to reform without revolution, recognizing how the politics of riots usually play out imposes a special burden to forestall and contain them — and when that isn't possible, to clearly distinguish the higher cause from the chaos trailing in its wake. Would you like recommendations for more stories like this? Yes My suspicion is that this will be more easily accomplished in 2020 than it was in 2016 or 1968. Across his presidency Trump has been more a Wallace than a Nixon, less "law and order" than "the law for thee but not for me," and his obvious disregard for civic peace makes it hard for him to campaign as its custodian. At the same time, the manifest injustice of George Floyd's treatment by the Minneapolis police has imposed a limit on Trump's demagoguery; even the president claimed to be honoring Floyd's memory in the same breath that he attacked the rioters. And unlike four years ago, in 2020 Trump's waning re-election hopes probably depend on winning a higher-than-usual number of black and Latino men, which mean that the politics of racial backlash are more fraught for his strategists than one might usually expect. Meanwhile Joe Biden, as a moderate Democrat with a law-and-order past who won his party's nomination with strong African-American support, is arguably better positioned than some Democratic politicians to balance outrage over racial injustice with a message of peace, nonviolence, calm. Biden probably won't go to war with the parts of his coalition that are inclined to portray riots as necessary uprisings or cathartic wealth-redistribution, but he has a primary season's worth of experience ignoring them. So if Minneapolis is the beginning of a season of protest, he may find it much easier to balance moral outrage with reassurance than a nominee more beholden to the left. And in striking that balance he would carry on, rather than betray, the legacy of the most successful civil rights activists. Martin Luther King Jr. became more politically radical in his last years, but his opposition to rioting was a constant. "Every time a riot develops," he warned just months before his death, "it helps George Wallace." If we are headed for a long, hot, virus-shadowed summer, those are words that a liberalism that doesn't want to help Donald Trump would do well to keep in mind..." </> |
| Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: May 31 03:32PM -0500 Sheldon Martin wrote: >> measures. >> Jill > My SS bowls are marked in cups, easy to read in the inside. I bet they have little sailing ships engraved too. |
| jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: May 31 04:41PM -0400 On 5/31/2020 3:44 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote: >>> best to keep glass out of the prep and cooking areas. >> Geeze, you sound like Sheldon. > You do realize that you're dumber than a rock. No, she's really not. You've said in the past you put glass containers in your freezer. No way would a commercial kitchen do that. > A home kitchen is different from a commercial kitchen, or you haven't > figured that out... I operate my kitchen as if it were commercial. Why? You don't have a bunch of kitchen elves running around potentially knocking things off the counters and breaking things, unless maybe you count your cats. > swimming pools saying NO GLASS! Restaurants do not permit any > glassware in the kitchen, mixing bowls are metal. Celebrity chefs on > Food TV sip their wine/booze from ceramic cups. Who is going to sue you (or the OP) if a ramekin breaks? Just sweep it up and move on. Jill |
| Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 01 06:01AM +1000 On Sun, 31 May 2020 11:35:08 -0400, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote: >> Cindy Hamilton >Yep, it's narcissistic. I'm not sure why Kuthe thinks anyone cares how >many hours he's worked. Ask him. He's here. |
| Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: May 31 03:26PM -0500 Bruce wrote: >> Yep, it's narcissistic. I'm not sure why Kuthe thinks anyone cares how >> many hours he's worked. > Ask him. He's here. Is it his day off today Fruce? |
| heyjoe <sample@example.invalid>: May 31 03:16PM -0500 On Sun, 31 May 2020 13:35:35 -0600 in Message-ID: <news:rb10u7$gki$1@dont-email.me> graham wrote : >> Certainly appears that way to me. > Isn't that the mind set of conservatives across the world? > Certainly appears that way to me. Conservatives didn't try to impeach Obama during the eight years of his presidency, no matter how much they may have disagreed with his policies, attitudes or mannerisims. That doesn't support the idea that conservatives think other opinions are stupid or intolerable. OTOH, progressives/liberals have tried to remove Trump from the presidency from the day he took office. Seems clear that only progrssive/liberal opinions/ideas are correct and MUST be followed - there is no wiggle room. -- The job of a journalist is to report the facts. Changing people's minds is not journalism, it's propaganda. |
| Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 01 05:59AM +1000 On Sun, 31 May 2020 09:37:03 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com> wrote: >>I think it was the Koreans that taught the Hawaiians how to appreciate spicy foods. >>Of course, so did the Vietnamese, Thais, and Indians in later years. >Actually hot pepper came from the Americas. Yes, you'd almost forget that seeing how Asians are all over them. |
| Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 01 06:01AM +1000 >> I am sure you recipe is delightful >> .. Just saying >LOL CK, I take it you aren't into butter beans or Black Eyed peas.... Yet, this is kinda catchy: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRzMtlZjXpU> |
| "Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>: May 31 09:05PM +0100 "dsi1" wrote in message news:2c44aa16-e6b6-4ad4-ab8b-fdbf0c6f0f81@googlegroups.com... On Saturday, May 30, 2020 at 10:20:20 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: > == > LOL As for spicy foods, I never had them growing up so I guess that > played a part. I never ate spicy foods while growing up either. These days, I like food that has a little kick. Beats me why that is. Here's the real picture of a loco moco. The dish was invented by a little old Japanese lady that had a diner in Hawaii. She needed a cheap food item that the kids could afford after a day of surfing. She pretty much nailed that one. The rest is history. https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/v6x8lVEASEeLKsAwkv6Buw.W_4IaFqUNNjK_VVadoApHq ==== What is in that bowl? I don't know what loco moco is:)) -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
| "Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>: May 31 09:09PM +0100 "Gary" wrote in message news:5ED3EEEB.44006313@att.net... Ophelia wrote: > LOL As for spicy foods, I never had them growing up so I guess that > played a part. When I was growing up, I never had spicy food. Dad didn't like it and Mom cooked for Dad. Us kids got to eat whatever Dad liked. He was our God back then. His rules only. He also insisted on all meat cooked very well done. Steak back then was thin and tough like shoe-leather. That's when I fell in love with A-1 steak sauce. Every bite of steak was smothered in the sauce. And even though we lived by fresh seafood most times, the only seafood ever served was frozen and breaded fish sticks from the grocery store. Usually drowned in ketchup. Once I finally left home (right before age 20) did I discover the real world of good food. === Well I am very pleased you are happy with it:)) I left home when I got married. D. was in the Military and we went off to Malta for 4 years. I didn't get any spicy food there. It was mostly Italian. After that I had become used to NO spicy stuff, so I don't look at it any more:)) Anyway D. doesn't like it ... so that is the end of that LOL -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
| "Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>: May 31 09:10PM +0100 "cshenk" wrote in message news:zr-dnTM-HqhMaU7DnZ2dnUU7-UHNnZ2d@giganews.com... Ophelia wrote: > > Yesterday I made some fried rice with Mexican chorizo and kim chee. > > Boy that was tasty. I used Noh Kim Chee powder to season it. > > There's a lot of possibilities with that stuff. https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/EQsglj9AS36oQWXBaqqKBA.FJysNTOOsLeJQqahW3YYPT > == > LOL As for spicy foods, I never had them growing up so I guess that > played a part. It's ok Ophelia, I use lots of savory spicing, but when it comes to 'heat' I'm generally medium to mild. == So long as you enjoy:)) -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
| "cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net>: May 31 03:08PM -0500 cshenk wrote: > It's curing now. Thats an initial run with pam sprayed all around. > Cover the coil with foil when you spray then remove foil and operate > unit 2 hours. It finished curing. We let it cool down then lit it off again with the brisket, ham and water/smoke chips. We were supposed to preheat it but forgot. We put the meat in trays but I think you are supposed to just use the racks and add a drip tray at the bottom. We just added the defrosted yellowfin tuna filets (spiced with a lemon pepper blend). Smells good! Next time, we preheat and wait for smoke to start before adding meat. Looking good anyways. |
| Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 01 05:56AM +1000 >> Ed, you've hardly made your comeback and you're already looking for a >> fight again? >You missed Ed's straight face joke. whooosh! Yet, you took what I wrote seriously. |
| Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 01 05:55AM +1000 On Sun, 31 May 2020 08:14:47 -0500, >>>That didn't hurt your feelings, did it? >>It was a blow. >Shake it off man. She can not understand typos...LOL I must say I feel better after a good night's sleep. |
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