Sunday, May 31, 2020

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"Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>: May 31 08:30AM +0100

"dsi1" wrote in message
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On Saturday, May 30, 2020 at 10:09:26 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
 
> ====
 
> Let us hope! Something needs to be seen to happen to deter someone else
> from doing the same thing!
 
It's happened before. I suppose that nothing will come of it. In America,
the white folks are afraid of the black folks, the black folks are afraid of
the police, the police kill the black folks, the white folks don't see that
there's a problem. That's just goofy as hell.
 
https://www.npr.org/2017/10/23/559498678/i-can-t-breathe-explores-life-and-death-at-the-hands-of-police
 
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It is all very frightening:((
 
 
 
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"Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>: May 31 08:35AM +0100

"Taxed and Spent" wrote in message news:raum3f$cba$1@dont-email.me...
 
On 5/30/2020 3:13 PM, Bruce wrote:
 
>> https://i.postimg.cc/KjqXjLf0/Statistics.jpg
 
> You'd also need to know how many of each there are. Per capita would
> be more meaningful.
 
Even more important is who is doing the killing. White cops? Black
cops? And how much crime for each? And how many justified?
 
"The race of a police officer did not predict the race of the citizen
shot. In other words, black officers were just as likely to shoot black
citizens as white officers were."
 
https://www.npr.org/2019/07/26/745731839/new-study-says-white-police-officers-are-not-more-likely-to-shoot-minority-suspe
 
====
 
I am very grateful that no one here routinely carries guns:((((
 
 
 
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dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: May 31 12:37AM -0700

On Saturday, May 30, 2020 at 9:30:52 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
 
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Indeed!
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50032290
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: May 31 06:15PM +1000

On Sun, 31 May 2020 08:35:23 +0100, "Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:
 
 
>https://www.npr.org/2019/07/26/745731839/new-study-says-white-police-officers-are-not-more-likely-to-shoot-minority-suspe
 
>====
 
> I am very grateful that no one here routinely carries guns:((((
 
Yes, that must add a lot to the police's fear. Every Tom, Dick and
Harry can pull a gun on you.
"Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>: May 31 09:27AM +0100

"dsi1" wrote in message
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On Saturday, May 30, 2020 at 9:30:52 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
 
> https://www.npr.org/2017/10/23/559498678/i-can-t-breathe-explores-life-and-death-at-the-hands-of-police
 
> ====
 
> It is all very frightening:((
 
Indeed!
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50032290
 
====
 
OMG!!!!!!!!!
 
 
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"Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>: May 31 07:57AM +0100

"dsi1" wrote in message
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On Saturday, May 30, 2020 at 6:56:12 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> bare simmer).
 
> Makes probably 20 1/2 cup servings so 10-12 with how we eat it, broth
> and all.
 
That's a most impressive amount of pork. I'll have to cook up some beans but
I like to use sad, tiny, amounts of pork.
 
Yesterday I made some fried rice with Mexican chorizo and kim chee. Boy that
was tasty. I used Noh Kim Chee powder to season it. There's a lot of
possibilities with that stuff.
 
https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/EQsglj9AS36oQWXBaqqKBA.FJysNTOOsLeJQqahW3YYPT
 
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It looks really good, but we could never eat it:))) Without the spices
however ... <g>
 
 
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dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: May 31 12:22AM -0700

On Saturday, May 30, 2020 at 8:57:16 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
 
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I think it was the Koreans that taught the Hawaiians how to appreciate spicy foods. Of course, so did the Vietnamese, Thais, and Indians in later years.
 
For my wife's dinner tonight at work, I made loco moco. It's a bed rice with a hamburger patty. Gravy is poured over the rice and an egg is laid on top. I put some Hawaiian style kim chee on the side. Ya gotta have your veggies...
 
One day, everybody will be eating like this.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6djLcXY_fnE
"Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>: May 31 09:20AM +0100

"dsi1" wrote in message
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On Saturday, May 30, 2020 at 8:57:16 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
 
> It looks really good, but we could never eat it:))) Without the
> spices
> however ... <g>
 
I think it was the Koreans that taught the Hawaiians how to appreciate spicy
foods. Of course, so did the Vietnamese, Thais, and Indians in later years.
 
For my wife's dinner tonight at work, I made loco moco. It's a bed rice with
a hamburger patty. Gravy is poured over the rice and an egg is laid on top.
I put some Hawaiian style kim chee on the side. Ya gotta have your
veggies...
 
One day, everybody will be eating like this.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6djLcXY_fnE
 
==
 
LOL As for spicy foods, I never had them growing up so I guess that
played a part.
 
 
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"Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>: May 31 08:07AM +0100

"dsi1" wrote in message
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On Saturday, May 30, 2020 at 12:05:00 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >freakin' idea. I suppose the answer to that is "because they can."
 
> Where I'm from, everybody's paid once a month. If you're that poor
> that this is a problem, you should move to a better country.
 
That's because your country is kind of backwards. That stagecoach only pulls
through town once a month, right? Paying people on calendar dates instead of
a regular schedule requires the use of sophisticated high-speed digital
computers. Yoose guys should really try getting some.
 
====
 
LOL I always got paid once a month too:))
 
 
 
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"Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>: May 31 08:09AM +0100

"dsi1" wrote in message
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On Saturday, May 30, 2020 at 12:35:05 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> like John, probably don't get overtime until he hits a set limit that
> is past 40 hours a week but right now, he's at 40 on average.
 
> I wish him well!
 
There's some state jobs in Hawaii that still pay overtime. The situation is
a little nutty because some people are able to get as much overtime as they
can grab. I'm talking about months of overtime.
 
I wish Mr. Kuthe well too, some folks here would like him to fail and fall
on his ass. These are not nice people.
 
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Absolutely!!!
 
 
 
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"Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>: May 31 08:12AM +0100

"Bruce" wrote in message news:q7n5df989iuj60gsci1vupquc31b7p4ogu@4ax.com...
 
On Sat, 30 May 2020 10:30:35 -0400, Dave Smith
>crashes. No one seems to want to deny them the hero title by expecting
>the deed to be above a certain bar, so they drop the bar and give it to
>everyone.
 
Is there anybody you're not jealous of?
 
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Anyone who uses more than on computer?
 
 
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Bruce <bruce@null.null>: May 31 06:18PM +1000

On Sun, 31 May 2020 08:12:30 +0100, "Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:
 
 
>Is there anybody you're not jealous of?
 
>===
 
> Anyone who uses more than on computer?
 
Yes, he's jealous of them too :)
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: May 30 10:16PM -0500

John Kuthe wrote:
 
> I was basically the Accucheck and Insulin Nurse today! Lotta of finger sticks and insulin pens, only one old fashioned syringe!
 
> And I worked about 15.5 hours too! IN ONE DAY!! :-)
 
> John Kuthe...
 
I am so proud of you! Insulin nurses are very important.
 
What do accucheck nurses do? Are they important too?
 
Don't work too much overtime. It can make you become tired and not
do a good job.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: May 31 02:27PM +1000

On Sat, 30 May 2020 23:19:00 -0500, Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>
wrote:
 
 
>> And I worked about 15.5 hours too! IN ONE DAY!! :-)
 
>Sounds like a jail or prison. Where else would you get that many
>diabetics in one place (other than a diabetic convention)?
 
The US?
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: May 31 12:33AM -0700

On Saturday, May 30, 2020 at 4:08:05 PM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
 
> I was basically the Accucheck and Insulin Nurse today! Lotta of finger sticks and insulin pens, only one old fashioned syringe!
 
> And I worked about 15.5 hours too! IN ONE DAY!! :-)
 
> John Kuthe...
 
Contrary to the beliefs of some people on this newsgroup, nurses have to know how to make calculations. It's an important part of their jobs. My wife is pretty careful when she's a med nurse. She finds that some of the staff don't know what the hell they're doing. That's not good. One nurse was off on a dosage by several decimal points i.e., she was going to administer 1000X the dose that was required.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6djLcXY_fnE
S Viemeister <firstname@lastname.oc.ku>: May 31 06:49AM +0100

On 5/31/2020 12:44 AM, Bruce wrote:
> <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>> My dad used a 55 gal drum which he left outside.
 
> Considering the size of American gals, that must have been enormous!
 
Umm...US 'gals' are considerably smaller than Imperial 'gals'.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: May 31 04:43PM +1000

On Sun, 31 May 2020 06:49:14 +0100, S Viemeister
>>> My dad used a 55 gal drum which he left outside.
 
>> Considering the size of American gals, that must have been enormous!
 
>Umm...US 'gals' are considerably smaller than Imperial 'gals'.
 
Ah yes, almost a quarter bigger.
Confusor <confusor@sincorreos.net>: May 31 09:34AM +0200

A diet to follow between the first of June to 10 June.
 
Essays.
In search of the best diets.
It is suggested to FOLLOW next diet with the relationship
of food more convenient to the season.
 
GROUP: (2/6)
 
CARBOHYDRATES.
barley, Job's tears, maize, millet, oat, rice, rye, sorghum, teff,
wheat, amaranth, buckwheat, quinoa,
 
VEGETABLE PROTEINS.
almond, pumpkin seeds, hemp seeds, watermelon seeds,
 
MEAT.
beef, goat, horse, pork, rabbit, sheep,
 
DAIRY.
butters, cottage cheese, cream cheese, farmer cheese, milk,
 
FERMENTED PRODUCTS.
cheeses, yogurts, honey,
 
POULTRY.
 
FISH AND SEAFOOD:
crustaceans:
mollusks:
fishes: albacore, anchovy, angler, breams, blue whiting, tuna,
bonitol, cod, conger, groupers, hake, halibut, herring, pollack,
salmons, sardine, sea bass, sea trout, skates, sole, turbot,
and so on,
 
OILS.
coconut, pumpkin seeds, maize, palm,
 
LIVE FOOD.
avocado, bean greens, cabbages, broccoli, Brussels sprout,
cauliflower, red cabbage, carrot, celery, cucumber, fennel, calabash,
fig-leaf gourd, squash, mushrooms, mustard greens, parsnip, radish,
turnips, Chinese cabbage, rutabaga, water chestnut, watercress,
zucchini,
 
FRUITS.
acai berry, apple, apricot, banana, plantain, boxthorn, breadfruit,
coconut, currants, custard apple, cherry, date, fig, gooseberry,
groundcherry, guava, guavasteen, jackfruit, java-plum, jujube, loquat,
melons, mulberry, noni, papaya, pawpaw, peach, pear, pineapple, plum,
pomegranate, quince, rowanberry, blackberry, raspberry, strawberry,
watermelons,
 
BEVERAGES.
almond milk, apple juice, beetroot juice, coffee, pear juice,
pineapple juice, prune juice, pomegranate juice, blackberry juice,
sugar cane,
 
SPICES.
bay leaf, cayenne, chili, paprika, cinnamon, clove, ginger, nutmeg,
turmeric,
====================================================================
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: May 30 11:11PM -0500

On Sat, 30 May 2020 14:52:59 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
 
 
>> Do you want to go back in there with an Uzi?
 
> He's waiting for his chance to deal with TJ's when a peaceful protest
> rolls by.
 
He could also do an Andy Burns and go in there and smash all the
bread because the cashiers won't take his creepy advances.
 
-sw
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: May 30 11:16PM -0500

On Sat, 30 May 2020 23:11:42 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
 
> 3 oz. Prague Powder #1
> 3 oz. powdered dextrose
 
> Spray pump the briskets to about 12-15% of their original weight.
 
How about 112-115% instead?
 
How do we spray pump at home? I just use one of those injectors
that come on the side of the bottle of Cajun-somethingoranother.
I should really get one of those injectors like the dentists use.
 
> Smoke at 140F until the meat is dry and then increase smoker temperature
> to 200-220F and hold until internal temperature of meat reaches 170-180F.
 
220F is too low for the duration. Crank that baby up to 300F after
3 hours at 225F. Ain't got all night! ;-)
 
-sw
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: May 30 11:19PM -0500

On Sat, 30 May 2020 19:08:01 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:
 
 
> I was basically the Accucheck and Insulin Nurse today! Lotta of
> finger sticks and insulin pens, only one old fashioned syringe!
 
> And I worked about 15.5 hours too! IN ONE DAY!! :-)
 
Sounds like a jail or prison. Where else would you get that many
diabetics in one place (other than a diabetic convention)?
 
-sw
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: May 30 11:21PM -0500

On Sat, 30 May 2020 19:08:01 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:
 
 
> I was basically the Accucheck and Insulin Nurse today! Lotta of finger sticks and insulin pens, only one old fashioned syringe!
 
> And I worked about 15.5 hours too! IN ONE DAY!! :-)
 
> John Kuthe...
 
So it only took you 3 minutes to get to work and 3 minutes to get
back, and 4 minutes to post those two messages. Even that 6:AM to
9:PM is only a maximum of 15 hours with no breaks.
 
Got any more lies for us?
 
-sw
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: May 30 11:23PM -0500

On Sat, 30 May 2020 19:57:54 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:
 
> working are mostly all of a sudden "nice" to me because I AM
> working and earning $$! ROFL! Really shows me a lot about what
> kinds PEOPLE you all are! Mammon Worshiping SCUM!
 
Now we're worshipping you because you're making mammon?
 
-sw
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: May 30 11:11PM -0400

How do I make my own corned beef?
 
For best results, use trimmed briskets.
 
 
Start with a curing brine. This recipe makes enough for 25 lbs of meat.
 
 
5 quarts ice water (about 38-40F)
8 oz. salt
3 oz. Prague Powder #1
3 oz. powdered dextrose
 
Spray pump the briskets to about 12-15% of their original weight. After
pumping, the briskets are packed in a vat, and sprinkled with whole
pickling spice. If more than one brisket is done at a time, pack them
flesh to flesh with the fat sides out. Add enough brine to cover and
allow to cure for 3-4 days at 38-40F. The meat is then ready to use
(but still requires cooking).
 
 
 
 
 
What is pastrami and how do I make my own?
 
For best results, use trimmed briskets.
 
 
Start with a curing brine. This makes enough for 25 lbs of meat.
 
 
5 quarts ice water (about 38-40F)
8 oz. salt
5 oz. Prague Powder #1
5 oz. powdered dextrose
1 Tb garlic juice
 
Prepare and cure as for corned beef.
 
After curing, remove from brine and rub liberally with cracked black
pepper and coriander seeds.
 
Smoke at 140F until the meat is dry and then increase smoker temperature
to 200-220F and hold until internal temperature of meat reaches 170-180F.
 
Chill overnight before using. This meat is fully cooked.
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: May 30 11:09PM -0400

How do I make my own bacon at home?
 
It is my experience that bacon is the easiest slow smoked product to
produce at home and the results are as good as, or better than, the best
commercially produced bacon.
 
 
I use Morton Tender Quick and brown sugar. Rub down a slab of fresh
bacon (pork belly) with a liberal quantity of the Tender Quick. You
can't really use too much but a cup or so should do. Then follow with a
thorough rub of brown sugar (again, start with a cup or so).
 
Then place the meat in heavy plastic and allow curing for 7 days at 38F.
I use a small refrigerator for this. I run a remote temperature probe
inside and monitor the temperature, tweaking the thermostat when
necessary. The temperature is important; too low (below 36F) and the
curing action will cease, too high (above 40F) and the meat will begin
to spoil. I also cut the pork belly in two and cure it with the meat
surfaces face to face and the skin on the outside. It helps it fit in
the fridge and improves the curing action.
 
I then smoke it at 140-150F until the internal temperature of the pork
reaches 128F (about 8 to 10 hours). I find it best to remove the skin
about 3/4 of the way through the smoking process. This way the fat is
protected but still acquires some color.
 
Chill overnight before using. Slice into approximately 3/16" thick and
fry as usual.
 
 
If you are using Prague Powder #1, mix 2 oz with 1 lb of salt and use
like the Tender Quick.
Rick Thead
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