Sunday, June 21, 2020

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 9 topics

"Julie Bove" <juliebove@frontier.com>: Jun 21 04:16PM -0700

I made this last night with the following changes. 10 strips of regular
bacon instead of the pancetta, no cayenne and a small can of tomato sauce
with a sprinkle of Italian seasoning as I had no Marinara.
 
https://2sistersrecipes.com/baby-lima-bean-soup/
 
The beans must have been very fresh. At one hour, they were slightly
overcooked. I tasted for seasonings. Added black pepper. Tasted great! Added
the tomato sauce and... Not so great. Might taste better when I reheat it
tonight. I didn't eat any last night. Just tasted it.
 
Pretty sure if I make it again, I'll leave out the tomato.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 21 02:48PM -0700

On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 8:36:32 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> >> useless pans.
 
> >They work great for me. You must not be doing it right.
 
> >-sw
 
I don't use a perforated pan at all, so I'm not doing anything wrong.
> pan makes it easy to place the pie into the oven and to remove from
> the oven, needs no corn meal or peel. And I slice the pizza right on
> the perforated pan. Gary doesn't say what is bad about it.
 
I have no trouble placing that frozen Newman's Own pizza directly on the
oven rack and no trouble at all removing it. It doesn't fold up or flop
all over the place when removing it. Nor do I use a peel, it's not needed
nor is cornmeal. I don't know what I'd use that cornmeal on unless I just
threw it on the oven floor.
 
Cooking that pizza directly on the oven rack produces a perfectly browned
and crispy crust.
graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: Jun 21 03:52PM -0600

On 2020-06-21 2:22 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
 
>> Cindy Hamilton
 
> If I get the right tomatoes I slice and put them on pizza instead of
> sauce.  Makes for a nice change once in a while.
When I lived in Aussie, I used to make my pizzas with fresh tomatoes and
a visitor from from Europe said that mine were just like the ones he'd
eaten in Italy.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 21 02:58PM -0700

On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 3:18:38 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> In your opinion. Luckily, you are not the Supreme Arbiter of
> taste for everyone in the world.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
I don't think it would taste bad either. I watch Lidia Bastianich on
PBS and when she uses tomato paste she will make a 'hot spot' in the
pan by moving some of the vegetables to the side. Then she'll put
however much tomato paste she is adding in that bare spot and cook it
slightly to get rid of the 'canned' taste and deepen the tomato taste.
Thomas <canope234@gmail.com>: Jun 21 04:07PM -0700

If you can put self made pizza on an oven rack, just getting there is delirious.
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jun 21 06:13PM -0500

> pan by moving some of the vegetables to the side. Then she'll put
> however much tomato paste she is adding in that bare spot and cook it
> slightly to get rid of the 'canned' taste and deepen the tomato taste.
 
You shouldn't have mentioned Lidia. Popeye will go on and on bout
her "bosoms"
"Julie Bove" <juliebove@frontier.com>: Jun 21 04:11PM -0700

Some of you may remember the pic of my dirty, rusty, moss covered mailbox.
Around 7:00 pm last night, someone took it out. We don't know who. My
gardener said he heard a loud noise. He didn't know what it was. His
girlfriend drove over here to pick him up and saw the aftermath. She called
the police. They think it was hit by a car, likely on purpose. There must
have been mail all over as a neighbor put a note on the remains listing his
address and telling people to get their mail there.
 
I spoke to one neighbor last night. He walked down there, took pics and sent
them to me.The guy on the other side of me is not currently living in the
house. I know the lady on the other side of him so will go down there and
see if she knows something.
 
We're not sure what to do. The police said to notify the USPS online but I
can't find such a place on their website for this particular situation. I
think it is up to us to procure a new mailbox but need permission from the
USPS to install it and also the locks that they will need to use. Such a
mailbox costs well over $1,000 to buy, plus $40 for each lock. Then there is
installation. No HOA here. Not good.
 
I can't post a pic of the damaged box as I no longer have a pic hosting
service.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 21 03:24PM -0700

On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 10:11:23 AM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
 
> All BOTH of them!
 
> An I can DO THIS JOB for $250/week! For 6 more years until I retire officially!
 
> Joh1n Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and Future Mayor of Bel Nor MO!
 
* * * * Another KOO-KOO-Kuthe attention seeking post * * * *
 
At first, you were working 12-hour shifts for 3 days on and 4 days off. Now
you're down to 2 days a week and about 4 hours per day. You can't learn all
the new-fangled charting so they've sent you to another nursing home with
even fewer hours than before?
 
Can't find a part-time job anywhere else on those days off? I'd suggest
being a checker at the grocery store, but that would involve running a
cash register. Maybe you can hire on as a stocker or as a grocery bagger.
See if Burger King or Taco Bell or Dominos pizza is hiring.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 22 08:46AM +1000

On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 15:24:04 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net"
>being a checker at the grocery store, but that would involve running a
>cash register. Maybe you can hire on as a stocker or as a grocery bagger.
>See if Burger King or Taco Bell or Dominos pizza is hiring.
 
Yes, let's all start telling each other what we need to do with our
lives.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 21 04:10PM -0700

On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 5:46:07 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
 
> Yes, let's all start telling each other what we need to do with our
> lives.
 
At the rate he is going he'll be lucky if his Social Security check will
be sufficient to pay the electric bill in his all-electric house. Plus,
he won't have enough to pay his campaign fees when he runs for mayor.
 
@ @ (eye roll)
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jun 21 01:39PM -0700

On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 10:17:38 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
 
> Then why change it? It was put there for a reason but now they are
> pandering for profit. Product recognition is good but now it has to
> change.
 
This isn't the 60's any longer that kind of stuff don't fly in the modern world. Back in the 70's, the boomers were king. In the 20's nobody is really interested in what the boomers are having for breakfast because it's the millennials that have taken over the crown. Having a black mammy on a box is viral dynamite that's going to go off sooner or later. It's not personal, it's just business.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 22 06:55AM +1000

On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 16:39:43 -0400, Dave Smith
>to stick. One of the lame reasons not to name it after Wellington was
>that he was alleged to have been anti Semitic. It was the early 1800s.
>Most people in England were probably anti Semitic back then.
 
Simple: don't name things after English people from the early 1800s.
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jun 21 01:55PM -0700

On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 10:35:00 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> This was because poi dogs, with plump and soft bodies, were primarily
> meant to be eaten as food. Ancient Hawaiians prized roasted dogs,
> especially young puppies, and considered them a delicacy.
 
As far as I know, the Hawaiians don't eat dog any more. The Filipinos still do. Well, at least the old ones still do. I doubt the kids go for that kind of fare these days. They'd rather eat green bean casserole. People on the mainland don't like the idea of eating dogs but I don't have a problem with it. The local joke is that the Filipinos think that the black dog is the best tasting. We used to have a black dog so there was a lot of joking around about Filipinos stealing our dog for eat at one party. It's one of the perks of owning a black dog.
 
As far as poi dogs goes, I like those dogs. They seem to have a lot of spunk.
 
http://archives.starbulletin.com/2007/12/19/news/story02.html
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 22 07:00AM +1000

On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 13:55:45 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>kind of fare these days. They'd rather eat green bean casserole.
>People on the mainland don't like the idea of eating dogs but I don't
>have a problem with it.
 
That's because you're an old boomer. With old boomer ideas.
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jun 21 04:19PM -0500

dsi1 wrote:
>> pandering for profit. Product recognition is good but now it has to
>> change.
 
> This isn't the 60's any longer that kind of stuff don't fly in the modern world. Back in the 70's, the boomers were king. In the 20's nobody is really interested in what the boomers are having for breakfast because it's the millennials that have taken over the crown. Having a black mammy on a box is viral dynamite that's going to go off sooner or later. It's not personal, it's just business.
 
Yoose right. If the image of a black lady on a bottle of syrup is
going to cause millenials to riot, it's not worth it.
 
The old guys can just print out mammy jemima's picture, glue it on
the damn bottle, and enjoy their breakfast.
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jun 21 04:20PM -0500

Bruce wrote:
>> that he was alleged to have been anti Semitic. It was the early 1800s.
>> Most people in England were probably anti Semitic back then.
 
> Simple: don't name things after English people from the early 1800s.
 
Or black folks in the early 1900's.
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jun 21 04:22PM -0500

Bruce wrote:
>> People on the mainland don't like the idea of eating dogs but I don't
>> have a problem with it.
 
> That's because you're an old boomer. With old boomer ideas.
 
When you sniff a boomer, can you tell right off Druce?
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 21 02:25PM -0700

On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 11:35:26 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
 
> My wife has a problem with Washington and Jefferson being slave owners. I don't have any particular feelings about it. Logically, she's right, of course. My guess is, that in the future, these two founding fathers are going to go down too. It might be real soon.
 
She'll get her panties in a knot when she learns Alexander Hamilton, James
Madison, James Monroe, Andrew Jackson, James K. Polk, John Tyler, and Zachary Taylor were all slave owners. By the way, Lincoln's plan was to provide
passage back to Africa to the country of Liberia or to Central America.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 21 02:27PM -0700

On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 12:45:22 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
 
> At the end of his life,
> Washington made the decision to free all his slaves in his 1799 will -
> the only slave-holding Founding Father to do so.
 
Actually Washington said his slaves would be freed upon Martha's death.
She was terrified they would kill or poison her to hasten their freedom
so she freed them soon after George's death.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jun 21 05:44PM -0400

On 2020-06-21 3:49 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> product. Are these people so OCD that they need that picture of some
> fictitious character nearby so they can feel right about eating some
> lousy pancakes? Why yes, undoubtedly.
 
You can't win. If they don't have enough diverse actors in commercials
and other advertising there are people who will complain. When they use
the image of a woman who made a lot of money flogging her image they
complain. It's time for people to take a stand and tell the protestors
to pound salt. Let them go ahead and protest. There will be so many
protests going on that people just won't care anymore. Look at the Me
Too movement and the way male celebrities were facinf allegations of
sexual improprieties. After a few weeks there were so many of them they
people stopped caring.
"cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net>: Jun 21 05:52PM -0500

> bring in some big bucks for their services. It's a very lucrative
> business here but I'm not sure how they've fared since the shutdown
> and so many folks not working and can't afford them now.
 
Same here. Most are white.
Nellie <julie.nils@gmail.com>: Jun 21 03:39PM -0700

Dsl1said:
 
It was a nice place back in the day. They did nice little town things like an annual picnic. They still do a 4th of July parade and fireworks show. OTOH, things have changed. The beach is about half as wide as it used to be in the 60's and Kailua has turned into tourist town. A lot of people are liking it because there's money to be made. As we all know, money changes everything.
 
I live in Kaneohe now. I don't much like going to Kailua anymore. Too much tourists.
 
————————
Funny, we were in Kailua in August 2016. I
enjoyed it so much Sure there were tourists there but not so bad. I can understand, though, that
it may have looked different back in the day.
 
We had a great time there, drinking that Kona coffee, going to the lava beaches. I guess we
are what you don't like about it now.
That's the breaks. J/k of course.
 
Nellie
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 21 03:28PM -0700

On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 12:31:28 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
> to wash each leaf to get the sand out and then cut out the tough stems.
> Canned is easier and tastes good.
 
> Jill
 
Even though I haven't eaten turnip greens in a bit over 2 years, the brands
"Glory" and "Margaret Holmes" seasoned greens are/were very, very good.
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jun 21 05:50PM -0400

On 6/21/2020 4:32 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
 
>> https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/bvvc.pdf
 
>> Keep in mind that blacks are only 14% of the US population when
>> reading some of those numbers and charts.
 
Never bothered me in the past, growing up in Philadelphia. Went to
college at predominately black neighborhood and never saw problems at
night. Been years since I was in Chicago and no desire to return now.
 
Just seems that we got along better some years ago. That goes for race,
politics, religion. We're getting worse, not better.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jun 21 05:37PM -0400

>> recipes in the Woman's Day Encyclopedia of Cookery (my basic cookbooks for the
>> last 26 1/2 yrs. of marriage). I hope they are what you want. I'm including
>> the comments at the beginning of the recipe.
 
I think the OP died of old age waiting for that recipe. You are 25 years
too late with your reply.
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