Sunday, June 21, 2020

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 24 updates in 6 topics

dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jun 21 12:20PM -0700

On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 8:11:29 AM UTC-10, GM wrote:
 
> --
> Best
> Greg
 
Indeed, you are just sayin. People's "metrics" are mostly rationalizations so they can see the world the way that need to. Every country will see their history and historical figures in whichever way that need to. In the end, whether one views things in the past in a favorable light or not matters about as much as what their favorite color is.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 21 12:26PM -0700

On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 12:27:07 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> a familiar face, a nice lady that just wanted you to have a good
> breakfast. IMO, the world would be a better place if everyone had an
> Aunt like her.
 
Does anybody think this is about something besides Quaker Oats' bottom
line?
 
Obviously they feel the risk of keeping Auntie J is greater than
that of getting rid of her.
 
Cindy Hamilton
GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Jun 21 12:47PM -0700

dsi1 wrote:
 
> > Best
> > Greg
 
> Indeed, you are just sayin. People's "metrics" are mostly rationalizations so they can see the world the way that need to. Every country will see their history and historical figures in whichever way that need to.
 
[...]
 
"In the end, whether one views things in the past in a favorable light or not matters about as much as what their favorite color is..."
 
 
An inane statement on your part...you've a very "flip" attitude towards life...
 
--
Best
Greg
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jun 21 12:49PM -0700

On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 9:26:20 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> Obviously they feel the risk of keeping Auntie J is greater than
> that of getting rid of her.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
Why yes, it's always all about the money. What I don't get is why someone would give a fuck about whose picture is on the cover of product. Are these people so OCD that they need that picture of some fictitious character nearby so they can feel right about eating some lousy pancakes? Why yes, undoubtedly.
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jun 21 12:53PM -0700

On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 9:47:10 AM UTC-10, GM wrote:
 
> --
> Best
> Greg
 
So you think Stalin is one cool cat. So whaddaya want - medal?
 
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesrodgerseurope/2020/06/20/russias-putin-gives-the-west-a-wwii-history-lesson-heres-why/#162fd4ee3366
GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Jun 21 12:54PM -0700

dsi1 wrote:
 
> > that of getting rid of her.
 
> > Cindy Hamilton
 
> Why yes, it's always all about the money. What I don't get is why someone would give a fuck about whose picture is on the cover of product. Are these people so OCD that they need that picture of some fictitious character nearby so they can feel right about eating some lousy pancakes? Why yes, undoubtedly.
 
 
You obviously do not understand the process of a market economy...
 
--
Best
Greg
Pamela <pamela.poster@gmail.com>: Jun 21 07:36PM +0100

On 17:59 21 Jun 2020, Daniel said:
 
 
> As a naive 18-year old it was lost on me that it was a money laundering
> operation at the same time. Those clues were pieced together years
> later. Sort of fascinating now that I think about it.
 
Interesting points! :)
Pamela <pamela.poster@gmail.com>: Jun 21 07:38PM +0100

On 15:55 21 Jun 2020, Sheldon Martin said:
 
> haven't posted food pictures for a long time now because no one comments
> good, bad, or indifferent. I don't think many read my posts other than
> you... I must be in everyone's killfile but I don't care, their loss.
 
Frozen dough never seems as good as handmade even if it's a lot easier.
 
Reading between the lines, and from your other posts, your choice of
toppings seem classic, which is good in my book.
Pamela <pamela.poster@gmail.com>: Jun 21 07:43PM +0100

On 13:58 21 Jun 2020, Cindy Hamilton said:
 
 
> Millions of people like the caramelized taste. I often brown
> tomato paste to add depth of flavor to soups and sauces.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
I've never had a pizza or pasta tomato sauce that tastes worse for long
simmering. Some people prefer a fresh tomato taste in their sauce but to me
it just tastes raw.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 21 12:01PM -0700

On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 2:43:57 PM UTC-4, Pamela wrote:
 
> I've never had a pizza or pasta tomato sauce that tastes worse for long
> simmering. Some people prefer a fresh tomato taste in their sauce but to me
> it just tastes raw.
 
I like tomato sauce both ways. It doesn't have to be one or the
other for me.
 
Cindy Hamilton
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Jun 21 03:12PM -0400

On 6/21/2020 2:52 AM, Leo wrote:
>> on tv. Pizza should NEVER be cooked over 400 F in a closed oven.
 
> I disagree.
 
> leo
 
Heh. You're replying to a guy who thinks cauliflower makes for a good
pizza crust.
 
Jill
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jun 21 03:47PM -0400

On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 12:01:50 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
 
>I like tomato sauce both ways. It doesn't have to be one or the
>other for me.
 
>Cindy Hamilton
 
Caramelized tomato sauce is TIAD.
graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: Jun 21 01:05PM -0600

On 2020-06-21 10:46 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> It worked out beautifully. The dough was a little difficult to
> form since it was so soft and wet, but it baked up like a dream.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
I'm surprised as the hydration was only 66% plus a small amount of oil.
Did you use cups instead of weighing?
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 21 12:19PM -0700

On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 3:05:27 PM UTC-4, graham wrote:
 
> > Cindy Hamilton
 
> I'm surprised as the hydration was only 66% plus a small amount of oil.
> Did you use cups instead of weighing?
 
Nope. I set my scale to grams and weighed.
 
Perhaps "wet" is a little overstatement, because I have relatively
little experience with dough. But it was very soft.
 
Cindy Hamilton
graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: Jun 21 01:47PM -0600

On 2020-06-21 1:19 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> Perhaps "wet" is a little overstatement, because I have relatively
> little experience with dough. But it was very soft.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
The instructions said to process for 30 seconds. Those that I follow
have the machine running while you steadily pour in the water, after
which you process for a whole minute. I've found that the longer time
makes a difference. I would also add the oil after the water.
Pamela <pamela.poster@gmail.com>: Jun 21 07:32PM +0100

On 04:03 20 Jun 2020, Bruce said:
>>burn in your craw for so long.
 
> Pamela's hard to talk to because he takes 4 weeks breaks between
> appearances.
 
Bruce it may surprise you but not everyone spends anything like as much
time here as you do.
 
Sometimes I wonder why your life appears so empty that it's a highlight
for you to spot new messages here and reply within a matter of minutes.
 
Take a break. Go and do something else. Don't post for a few days. Break
your addiction. Try it.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Jun 21 03:19PM -0400

On 6/18/2020 8:57 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Now there is one way to make a big difference. Defrost it with the
> microwave defrost feature.*UGG*. Huge difference from just letting it
> naturally defrost in the fridge.
 
OMG, no. I'm not sure what you're saying UGG to but never use the
microwave defrost setting to thaw a steak or any sort of frozen meat
unless you want it to be partially cooked before it's thawed through in
the middle.
 
Thaw well wrapped meat in a bowl of cold water if you're in a hurry.
 
Jill
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Jun 21 03:24PM -0400

On 6/18/2020 9:16 PM, cshenk wrote:
> match something you said (but I do not recall the specifics). He's
> also said much that would get him booted out on his ass from the Navy
> by 1980 much less now.
 
He did once declare to me there were no Marines on Navy ships during
WWII. He doesn't realize the Marine Corps and Navy have always been
joined at the hip.
 
Jill
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jun 21 12:36PM -0700

On Friday, June 19, 2020 at 2:41:13 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> > season and take them out of the fridge an hour before grilling.
 
> THat works. I tried the defrost setting and it's lame in the extreme
> for meats and flavor as opposed to just doing it right in the fridge.
 
If you have a sous vide cooker, you can immerse the frozen steak into the water bath and set it at 125 to 130 degrees and let it go for 3 hours or more. Then you take it out and sear it because it's already cooked.
 
I cooked this steak in the sous vide and then blasted the shit out of it in a carbon steel pan. Of course, it came out perfectly medium rare. It wasn't frozen though. One day, I'll have to try it. My guess is that I could pre-season steaks, bag them, and freeze them. You could then have steaks from the freezer to perfectly done in 3 three hours. That would be awesome.
 
https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/22CtZqyuRkeuZuokGxEQyw.5qy-aBey2yJuHDmuuek3Zt
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jun 21 02:41PM -0400

On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 08:35:22 -0700 (PDT), GM
>> brochure, they may have been designed in the UK but they were made in
>> the PRC.
 
>Please don't tell me they were Wharfedales or B&W's or KEF's...!!!
 
Those Chinee speakers translated Engrish into fly lice.
A rot of teenaged Chinee gals I met in the nabe had hefty bra busting
hooters... I gaurantee their personal biznez wasn't slanty.
GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Jun 21 11:54AM -0700

Sheldon wrote:
 
 
> Those Chinee speakers translated Engrish into fly lice.
> A rot of teenaged Chinee gals I met in the nabe had hefty bra busting
> hooters... I gaurantee their personal biznez wasn't slanty.
 
 
A cousin who was stationed in Kwajalein in the late 60's used to take "R&R" breaks in Bangkok...he said that at one place he went to the strippers would 'smoke' a cig out of their *vaginas*...
 
8-D
 
--
Best
Greg
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jun 21 02:00PM -0500

Sheldon Martin wrote:
 
> Those Chinee speakers translated Engrish into fly lice.
> A rot of teenaged Chinee gals I met in the nabe had hefty bra busting
> hooters... I gaurantee their personal biznez wasn't slanty.
 
Pour yooself another glass of crystal palace Popeye.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jun 21 03:15PM -0400

On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 11:54:38 -0700 (PDT), GM
>> hooters... I gaurantee their personal biznez wasn't slanty.
 
>A cousin who was stationed in Kwajalein in the late 60's used to take "R&R" breaks in Bangkok...he said that at one place he went to the strippers would 'smoke' a cig out of their *vaginas*...
 
>8-D
 
I've seen that throughout most of Europe, especially in Rome and
Naples. 15 year old boys in Italy were selling their sisters and
mammas.
evamariesommersberlin@gmail.com: Jun 21 11:37AM -0700

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