Monday, June 22, 2020

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 11 topics

Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 22 08:55AM -0400

Dave Smith wrote:
 
> Chlorine taste will disappear if you just lest the water sit for a
> while. You can boil it, let it sit for a couple hours, or just pour it
> back and forth a few times.
 
One interesting thing I learned once. People that add a Jacuzzi
or
those walk in tubs with jets to massage you....
 
You'll never hear this in the sales pitch but once you have one
installed, they have a warning sticker on the new units to only
be removed by the customers.
 
They warn you that if you use chlorinated city water, don't stay
in the tubs for more than a few minutes. Those jets aerate the
water and release all the chlorine and you're relaxing there and
breathing in a high concentration of chlorine gas. Not good
for you.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 22 06:04AM -0700

On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 8:58:22 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> water and release all the chlorine and you're relaxing there and
> breathing in a high concentration of chlorine gas. Not good
> for you.
 
"They"?
 
Millions of hot tubs are meant to be kept filled at all times. These
use chlorine or bromine to keep the water from turning green and slimy.
It's entirely up to the owner to regulate the amount of disinfectant
in the tub.
 
If it were a health hazard, people would be suing hot tub manufacturers
right, left, and center. The industry would dry up and blow away.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Janet <nobody@home.org>: Jun 22 01:10PM +0100

In article <OJSHG.34888$DO2.12929@fx45.iad>, j_mcquown@comcast.net
says...
> they'd have been treated no better than any other slave. They were
> bought and paid for.
 
> Jill
 
 
If you're referring to the Battle of Bothwell Bridge in 1679. It
took place in Scotland, not England.
 
 
Janet UK
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Bothwell_Bridge
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jun 22 05:15AM -0700

On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 1:03:54 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> money for cashiers. All starting in July? Not years from now.
 
> Did I hear this wrong? It was only a very brief news bite.
 
> That's a pretty good starting wage for uneducated people.
 
The reality is that even uneducated people have to do things like pay for housing, food, transportation, childcare, utilities, and high speed internet.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 22 05:56AM -0700

On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 8:15:05 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
 
> > Did I hear this wrong? It was only a very brief news bite.
 
> > That's a pretty good starting wage for uneducated people.
 
> The reality is that even uneducated people have to do things like pay for housing, food, transportation, childcare, utilities, and high speed internet.
 
Birth control is cheap. Perhaps those uneducated people should pay for
education rather than childcare.
 
And I don't mean a four-year bachelor's degree.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 22 08:55AM -0400

dsi1 wrote:
> We visited the International Slavery Museum when we were in Liverpool. It was interesting and moving. The Brits abolished slavery about 30 years before the Yanks did. The difference, of course, is that they didn't have a civil war over the matter,
 
Again, the US Civil War wasn't about slavery.
The North was treating the South unfairly with economics.
They chose to leave the union. That's what the civil war
was all about.
 
I suspect Lincoln abolished slavery later just as pay backs
to the South for trying to divide us into two countries.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 22 08:57AM -0400

dsi1 wrote:
> This isn't the 60's any longer that kind of stuff don't fly in the modern world. Back in the 70's, the boomers were king. In the 20's nobody is really interested in what the boomers are having for breakfast because it's the millennials that have taken over the crown. Having a black mammy on a box is viral dynamite that's going to go off sooner or later. It's not personal, it's just business.
 
In the old slave days, the slaves grew crops and animals. The
owners got all the good meat and veggies. The slaves were given
the scrap leftovers to eat.
 
Well, over the years, the slaves learned how to cook very good
food from all those scraps. Used to be known as soul food but
decendents of slaves kept going and definitely know how to
cook excellent home cooked food.
 
Having a pic of a black person on a box of food was to indicate
it was a very good product.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 22 08:58AM -0400


> Actually Washington said his slaves would be freed upon Martha's death.
> She was terrified they would kill or poison her to hasten their freedom
> so she freed them soon after George's death.
 
In other words... G Washington might have talked about freeing
the slaves but he never did until he was on his death bed.
 
Kind of a "do as I say, not what I do" thing.
Janet <nobody@home.org>: Jun 22 01:20PM +0100

In article <rcq5bg$sor$2@dont-email.me>, juliebove@frontier.com says...
 
> It's a cluster mailbox. Like this:
 
> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Florence-8-Mailboxes-2-Parcel-Lockers-1-Outgoing-Mail-Compartment-Pedestal-Mount-Cluster-Box-Unit-1570-8AF/206511886
 
> Houses don't have individual mailboxes here.
 
Why not? Land of the Free, etc.
 
Our mail is delivered into the house through the letterbox in our
front door.
 
Janet UK
"Julie Bove" <juliebove@frontier.com>: Jun 22 12:56AM -0700

"Hank Rogers" <Nospam@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:rcor30$e4d$1@gioia.aioe.org...
 
> Walmart sells mailboxes for less than $20. The mounting post costs $15 or
> so. While there, buy a 6 pack for the gardener, and I bet he'll have it
> done in less than an hour.
 
It's a cluster mailbox. Like this:
 
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Florence-8-Mailboxes-2-Parcel-Lockers-1-Outgoing-Mail-Compartment-Pedestal-Mount-Cluster-Box-Unit-1570-8AF/206511886
 
Houses don't have individual mailboxes here.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 22 06:00AM -0700

On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 8:20:16 AM UTC-4, Janet wrote:
 
> > https://www.homedepot.com/p/Florence-8-Mailboxes-2-Parcel-Lockers-1-Outgoing-Mail-Compartment-Pedestal-Mount-Cluster-Box-Unit-1570-8AF/206511886
 
> > Houses don't have individual mailboxes here.
 
> Why not? Land of the Free, etc.
 
We're free to buy houses that don't require a locking cluster mailbox.
Except in Bothell, of course, where there is no freedom.
 
> Our mail is delivered into the house through the letterbox in our
> front door.
 
Mine is delivered to a box at the side of the road, right in front of my
house. A very common situation for rural (or semi-rural) residents.
I provide the box, which must adhere to some fairly minimal standards
set out by the U.S. Post Office.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 22 08:56AM -0400

dsi1 wrote:
 
> We used to have anoles running about here 30 or so years ago. I don't see them anymore. We used to call them "chameleons." If they can change colors that's good enough for us. OTOH, we've also had Jackson chameleons. That used to be the craze on this rock. People would catch them and keep them while they withered away and then fall off their branch dead because not many people knew how to take care of them.
 
My young daughter raised anoles once in an aquarium with a screen
lid. She fed them
crickets and also had a water bowl. They lived a long time.
 
Then she caught a praying mantis once outside. It lived for years
on top of
her bedroom curtain. She also fed it crickets. No water...I guess
the
crickets had enough moisture in their bodies.
 
And no...she didn't go out hunting for crickets. The pet store
sold them
cheap...about 100 small crickets for a dollar.
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jun 22 05:01AM -0700

On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 1:40:14 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> on the later numbers to see the history of posts in the
> thread. No confusion ever.
 
> https://www.hostpic.org/images/2006221650100104.jpg
 
No need to go through all that trouble clicking on links. Just set your display to a "tree" view. You can even do it in Google Groups. Of course, this requires one to know how to operate their readers. Lots of folks don't. That's kind of lame.
Pamela <pamela.poster@gmail.com>: Jun 22 01:02PM +0100

On 09:51 20 Jun 2020, Daniel said:
 
> some research to find that article with no luck. But, now, there are a
> number of sites out there discussing it.
 
> https://www.bakingsteel.com/blog/72-hour-pizza-dough
 
Proving pizza dough is important but the Associazione Verace Pizza
Napoletana, who are a very fussy bunch with a hard-won reputation for good
pizza, suggest about 6 or 7 hours in total. See their guide:
 
www.pizzanapoletana.org/images/file/disciplinare%202008%20UK.pdf
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 22 08:54AM -0400

Sheldon Martin wrote:
> >new thing to buy. Any pizza I make, Homemade or store bought
> >cooks just fine and the same on my solid 16" pan.
 
> So truth is you never had one, too CHEAP to spend the $15.
 
No, I bought one years ago, tried it a few times then haven't
used it since. I saw no difference from my solid pan.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 22 08:55AM -0400

jmcquown wrote:
> I'm with you on the not too much tomato-y sauce on pizza.
 
I like both. With seasoned tomato sauce and also white pizzas.
 
My next one planned is a common pepperoni pizza. I've got
all the ingredients but still haven't made one. Hopefully
soon. I've never made one of those.
 
Just need to make the sauce first. Trying a bit different
sauce this time.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 22 08:56AM -0400

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> If I get the right tomatoes I slice and put them on pizza instead of
> sauce. Makes for a nice change once in a while.
 
When I add fresh tomatoes to a pizza, I like to semi-dehydrate
them first in the oven. Fresh sliced can make your pizza a
bit watery. The meatier roma tomatoes are better.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 22 08:54AM -0400

> - hide quoted text -
 
> >A small plate. Two crab cakes...
 
> Sometimes I wonder if so-called Maryland crab cakes really use crabmeat driven up from the Gulf of Mexico.
 
Plenty of crabs in Maryland so if you buy them there, they are
probably true to the area.
 
Jill uses canned crabmeat though...no telling where that
came from.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 22 08:54AM -0400

Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> now while it is really fresh, reasonable price and before
> international trade resumes completely and our prices make me balk at
> buying :)
 
OK, if they can't sell internationally right now, prices should
be
very cheap here now. No cheap prices here.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 22 08:53AM -0400

Sqwertz wrote:
> https://i.postimg.cc/rmLm3KJt/Smorgastarta-Finsihed.jpg
 
> New Rule: Any haters want to chime in? Then they need to post
> pictures of what THEY made tonight [dropping microphone]
 
What an odd sounding dish but I'm sure it was good.
 
BTW, your hero - Bobby Flay (southwestern cooking) always
drops a pepper grinder, not a microphone. Get it right!
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jun 22 05:24AM -0700

On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 4:14:15 PM UTC-10, Nellie wrote:
 
> I have been to your island and plan to go
> again. Will check in on your Kailua.
 
> Nellie
 
Kailua is a different kind of place than Kailua-Kona. There's a lot of haoles living there and it's a younger, hipper, laid-back, population. There's also a lot of dogs. The place is ideal for raising dogs and kids. My guess is that my town, Kaneohe is a cat town.
 
https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/hGLdE0htTLWmd0vo8SIXjw.W7uH2eMOXNMF9LqnbtONlU
songbird <songbird@anthive.com>: Jun 22 08:17AM -0400

Sheldon Martin wrote:
...
> chips, I added chopped and whole peanuts. I used to prefer those
> Spanish peanuts with the brown skin still attached, in fact I still
> prefer them, they have a more pronounced peanut flavor.
 
when making peanut butter cookies with whole peanuts
including the skins (often called redskins here) it was
usually a good idea to use raw peanuts in the recipe,
like when making peanut brittle the uncooked peanuts
can cook a little during the process and don't get so
overdone or abused. however, we hardly ever make
peanut butter cookies any more here so even when we
do now we just use peanut butter and no chunks of
peanuts or raw peanuts in the mix. :(
 
this is funny though because not having made any
peanut butter cookies for a long time Mom decided to
make some a few weeks ago. but she skimped on the
peanut butter so they're a wimpy version. i may
have to make some peanut butter frosting to put on
them to make them worth eating or just get out the
jar of peanut butter... that's much easier. :)
 
 
> boy the white chocolate was real only I didn't like it... to me eating
> white chocolate was like eating Spry... Spry was like Crisco.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spry_Vegetable_Shortening
 
poor people in Haiti mix Crisco and clay together
and eat it - if you ever have a shitty day think of
that...
 
 
songbird
songbird <songbird@anthive.com>: Jun 22 08:08AM -0400

Sqwertz wrote:
...
> You specifically mentioned 2 ingredients instead of one. It not
> about being clear or not.
 
ok Skippy!
 
 
songbird
songbird <songbird@anthive.com>: Jun 22 08:06AM -0400

Julie Bove wrote:
 
> the tomato sauce and... Not so great. Might taste better when I reheat it
> tonight. I didn't eat any last night. Just tasted it.
 
> Pretty sure if I make it again, I'll leave out the tomato.
 
so much in cooking is about personal preferences. nothing
there sounds bad to me, but i rarely do much to lima beans
because i love 'em as they are. a bit of butter is most often
and then once in a great while i'll add a bit of garlic salt.
 
as mixed vegetables are frequently used here as additions
to vegetable soups and the soup usually also has tomatoes
in it i've never had a problem with the lima beans in that
being messed up in flavor. so to me this does sound like a
personal preference.
 
 
songbird
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jun 22 05:04AM -0700

On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 1:44:53 AM UTC-10, Janet wrote:
 
> > The election of Trump was supposed to appease and calm those resentful of having a colored guy in office for 8 years. Instead it further divided our nation and emboldened crazy white Karens to demand that Mexican-Americans, Asian-American, and Latinos, go back to where they belong. The good news is that the negros are no longer being told to go back to Africa. The bad news is that they're now told that they're going to get their asses called on by the cops.
 
> " Instead he" not " Instead it"
 
> Janet UK
 
Are you quite sure of that? You wanna double down?
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