Wednesday, June 10, 2020

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 8 topics

Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jun 10 09:43AM -0400

On 2020-06-10 7:07 a.m., Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> name because of their habit of defecating when flushed."
>> (wiki)
 
> There's also the sea gull, commonly known as a Shite Hawk.
 
Shit Hawks or Dump Ducks.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jun 10 09:58AM -0400

>> state if I should ever come visit again?
 
>Not that I have the slightest interest in visiting but why is it
>pronounced "Loss" Vegas and not "Lass"?
 
The Spanish speakers say "Lahs"
 
Most folks out that way say Vegas, no Las at all. Most folks out west
say Frisco or San Fran, not both together. Where I lived for a good
portion of my life most people say Lunguyland, one word. Many Noo
Yawkers live by TurdyTurd & Turd.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jun 10 10:25AM -0400

>Mine is made with V-8 juice, lots of black pepper
>and no alcohol.
 
>Just a nice spicy drink for breakfast or a liquid lunch.
 
My Bloody Mary is pretty standard except I jazz it up with horseradish
and fresh lemon. Long ago I bought bottled lemon juice once and used
it to deoderize the trash cans. I buy fresh lemons in a two pound
bag, usually $3.99, 7-8 lemons, they typically last me 7-8 weeks.
GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Jun 10 07:26AM -0700

Sheldon wrote:
 
 
> The upstate Noo Yawkers really mangle the English language, I have a
> difficult time understanding them on the phone, there's a city not far
> from me named Cairo, here they pronounce it Kayrow.
 
 
Same for the "Cairo" in southron Illannoy...
 
--
Best
Greg
GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Jun 10 07:33AM -0700

Leo wrote:
 
> place. Which brings me to Nevada.
> By Nevadans, Nevada is pronounced Ne va duh, not Ne voh duh. Apparently,
> we're the only ones who know this ;)
 
 
There is a "Nevada" in North - Central Iowa, it is pronounced differently than your state:
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevada,_Iowa
 
"Nevada, Iowa
 
Nevada (/nəˈveɪdə/ nə-VAY-də) is a city in, and the county seat of, Story County, Iowa, United States. The population was 6,798 in the 2010 census, an increase from 6,658 in 2000. Nevada is part of the Ames, Iowa Metropolitan Statistical Area, which is a part of the larger Ames-Boone, Iowa Combined Statistical Area. Nevada is the second most populous city in Story County, with Ames being the most populous. The city's name is pronounced differently from the U.S. state of Nevada
 
History
 
Nevada was platted in 1853. It was named after the Sierra Nevada mountains..."
 
</>
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jun 10 12:26PM -0400

On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 Bruce wrote:
>>Mine is made with V-8 juice, lots of black pepper
>>and no alcohol.
 
>Yep. alcohol's expensive.
 
Without the alcohol it'd be a Virgin Nun.
Crystal Palace is not expensive, may cost the same or less than tomato
juice or V8... and it'd be very stupid to use a $40 bottle of vodka in
such a mixed drink.
Worcestershire is like deodorant for Gary's 'used' beef... there are
far better marinades than worcestershire for so-so beef or even
premium beef... one of my favorites for a London broil of top round is
ginger, orange marmalade, garlic, white pepper and a bit of toasted
sesame seed oil. I've spoken to enough butchers to learn never to buy
that 'used' meat, if not cooked immediately upon arriving home you're
taking a risk. And I strongly suggest never buying 'used' ground beef
or grinding 'used' beef yourself. When I grind beef I ask for a
couple three 5-6 pound roasts when on sale... they never have large
roasts already on display so I know mine are freshly cut. The roasts
on display are rarely over 3 pounds and were put out in early morning,
not very fresh, you can tell old beef by that puddle of blood it's
swimming in. When I want a pork loin roast I buy a whole loin on sale
and portion it myself, even for on the bone I have a hack saw reserved
for cutting meat bones... I rather cut through those bones myself than
have it cut on the butcher's band saw that likely wasn't cleaned since
who knows when. I have the 12" saw, plenty big for home use:
https://www.alliedkenco.com/256.aspx
Allied kenco sells most everything butchers use.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 10 07:02AM -0700

On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 9:18:08 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
 
> It's also not necessary to have any problem with a cop.
> When they stop you for any reason, they are in charge.
> Only problem people have problems with the police.
 
Bullshit. Police shoot children all the damned time when the kids
are creating problems such as "being in the wrong place at the wrong
time".
 
Google "child shot by police" and see the horror.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jun 10 10:11AM -0400

On 2020-06-10 9:04 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> When necessary is the operative term.
 
> It is not necessary to kneel on the neck of a handcuffed man for 8 minutes.
> Or, for that matter, for any amount of time.
 
You're right. The knee should have been to the shoulder. That would
have given the cop better control. It might have had the same outcome.
It is also not a good idea to resist arrest.
 
> It is not necessary to knock elderly protesters to the ground.
 
 
I watched the video of the old guy in Buffalo and I am quite sure that
he did that on purpose. Instead of moving out as the cops tried to clear
the area he advanced on the cops. They barely pushed him and he acted
like an Italian soccer player. Unfortunately he overplayed his part and
he got hurt. If you are old and frail you should not be attending
protests ans should not be confronting the police. Not that the man was
a well known activist.
 
 
 
> It is not necessary to run across the street to mace protesters who were
> shouting at police officers but offering no violence.
 
True. Incidents like that should lead to charges against those cops
who did things like that. Apparently some of them had their names and
badges covered up. If I ran the world, cops that covered up their badges
would be deemed not to be officers and therefore have no authority to
tell anyone to do anything and any charges they try to law would be
thrown out.
 
 
> It is not necessary to shoot first and ask questions later.
 
Shoot literally? Rules are different up here, even for cops. They can't
use deadly force unless it is one step up from the force they are facing.
GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Jun 10 07:14AM -0700

Gary wrote:
 
 
> It's also not necessary to have any problem with a cop.
> When they stop you for any reason, they are in charge.
> Only problem people have problems with the police.
 
 
The prob is, a lot of younger peeps - and not just minority - do not know how to act when stopped by the police. Countless examples of drivers being pulled over, instead of sitting still they will reach for, say, a cellphone. The cop does not know what they are reaching for, might be a gun, and then BOOM!, the driver is shot, that is what the cops are taught to do...
 
Peeps do not need to bow and scrape when stopped, but neither should they act in a verbally or physically belligerent manner, just cooperate. Most all of us were taught something along the lines of "Don't do anything to attract the attention of the police"...a good adage to follow.
 
We live in a society where many have lost respect for authority. In the case of "bad" authority, that is a good thing. But overall, a system will not survive where people are allowed - and even encouraged - to show utter contempt for teachers, LEO, etc...especially when people know there will be no "adverse consequences", and where all consider themselves a "victim". In Shitcago, we have a State's Attorney who routinely lets felons off scot - free, see below*
 
As for the Floyd case, I suspect there is "far more than meets the eye", that may come out in the trial, especially "video - wise"...
 
*
https://www.chicagocontrarian.com/blog/how-kim-foxx-has-exceeded-the-authority-of-her-office
 
How Kim Foxx Has Exceeded the Authority of Her Office
 
JANUARY 20, 2020 BY FLORIAN SOHNKE
 
A Progressive theologian hijacks Cook County's system of justice.
 
"Hours after the clinking glasses, the merriment, and the mad celebrations observing the New Year fell silent, Chicago police officers with the 1st District were summoned by a 28-year-old man who said he had been the victim of an assault while a travelling on a southbound CTA Red Line train. Responding to the victim, police quickly confronted the offender, Tyrese Parris, who re-acted to police commands by assaulting one officer and kicking another. Despite being charged with one count of felony aggravated battery of a peace officer, two counts of resisting arrest, and two counts of battery, Parris was released after posting a measly $100 bond. A man who obviously has learned little from previous brushes with the law, Parris' apprehension on January 1st, was the latest in a series of arrests reaching back to May 2019. An odyssey which began a mere eight months ago, Parris was charged with felony robbery, battery, and three counts of theft of lost or mislaid property in May 8. Appearing in court in September for his May crimes, Parris was sentenced to two years probation under a deal which saw the unpleasant lad enter a guilty plea to a reduced charge of theft. Two-and-a-half months later, in incidents weeks apart in December, Parris was twice delivered into the welcoming arms of Cook County prosecutors, who released him after police nabbed him for drug possession and, in the second incident, charged him with possession of burglary tools and trespassing. Despite his probation from his September charge, Parris was released on his own recognizance.
 
A man whose zeal for criminal behavior never receded during intervals between arrests, the ease with which Mr. Parris was returned to the streets unfortunately encapsulates Cook County's justice system under Chief Judge of the Circuit Court Timothy Evans, Sheriff Tom Dart, and State's Attorney Kim Foxx. While Dart and Evans play a critical role in the demise of law and order in Chicago, Kim Foxx is more responsible than others for the failures which have occurred. Although a prosecutor is often confronted with a disordered and troublesome county, in the three years since she became Cook County State's Attorney, Foxx has made the condition of law and order worse, and in some cases, markedly worse. In the course of her term, Foxx has implemented nearly every policy she envisioned as a candidate. As a result, the cumulative effects of her policy failures have been extraordinarily damaging to Cook County..."
 
</>
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jun 10 10:25AM -0400

On 2020-06-10 9:15 a.m., Gary wrote:
 
> It's also not necessary to have any problem with a cop.
> When they stop you for any reason, they are in charge.
> Only problem people have problems with the police.
 
 
Cops can be assholes, but they are still in charge. Some people are
their own worst enemies and talk themselves into more trouble. I am sure
that most people are aware of the fact of attitude adjustment charges.
Those are the tickets for relatively violations that might normally be
verbal warnings but get written up because the person was so
belligerent. I remember one guy that I did it too. I wanted him to get
the message that I was not going to put up with that crap from him, It
worked. Then next time I had dealings with him he very well behaved and
actually apologized for his behaviour in the previous incident. Then
there are the total assholes whose conviction records show multiple
incidents of multiple charges, mostly attitude adjustment charges.
 
 
If you get pulled over for something you are much more likely to get off
with a warning if you are polite and respectful. You don't have to
admit that you did wrong but you can apologize for whatever you did
wrong and say you will try to do better.
 
One of the very few times I charged someone for not wearing a seat belt
was when the belligerent driver told be he won't wear his and I couldn't
make him.
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jun 10 10:53AM -0400

On 6/10/2020 10:11 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> he got hurt. If you are old and frail you should not be attending
> protests ans should not be confronting the police.  Not that the man was
> a well known activist.
 
Just being there after a legal curfew was wrong but he was a long time
protester and constitutional activist. To approach a marching policeman
and put your arm out towards him is not a good idea. Turned out is was
a cell phone, easily seen from the angle of the video, not so much from
the angle of the cop. Could have been a knife, gun, needle full of drugs.
 
There are consequences for your actions. Before anyone says I'm wrong,
go out today and do the same thing to a policeman and tell us what the
consequences were. Think it a good idea?
 
 
>> It is not necessary to shoot first and ask questions later.
 
> Shoot literally?  Rules are different up here, even for cops. They can't
> use deadly force unless it is one step up from the force they are facing.
 
While that makes sense,how much time do you have to determine how much
force you are facing? Cops do get shot and killed while making that
decision and reacting.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jun 10 11:12AM -0400

On 2020-06-10 10:53 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
 
> While that makes sense,how much time do you have to determine how much
> force you are facing?  Cops do get shot and killed while making that
> decision and reacting.
 
Most shootings of police officer happen within seconds of their initial
encounter.
Boron Elgar <boron_elgar@hotmail.com>: Jun 10 12:21PM -0400

On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 11:12:27 -0400, Dave Smith
>> decision and reacting.
 
>Most shootings of police officer happen within seconds of their initial
>encounter.
 
Let' see your stats.
Boron Elgar <boron_elgar@hotmail.com>: Jun 10 12:24PM -0400

On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 11:12:27 -0400, Dave Smith
>> decision and reacting.
 
>Most shootings of police officer happen within seconds of their initial
>encounter.
 
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/2015/12/26/a-year-of-reckoning-police-fatally-shoot-nearly-1000/?itid=sf_
KenK <invalid@invalid.com>: Jun 10 02:54PM

dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote in
> soak the rice for about 20 minutes before cooking. She said "okay",
> now she cooks rice proper. For rice, a pre-soak is recommended. Well,
> by me, anyway.
 
 
I've never pre-soaked rice. Wasn't even aware that some people did.
 
--
I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.
KenK <invalid@invalid.com>: Jun 10 02:58PM

songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote in
> lot of dirt. i'd have been ashamed to sell beans
> in that condition.
 
> songbird
 
 
My mother and grandmother both spread the dry beans out on the kitchen
table and checked them before cooking them. I never do. I'm sure I
should.
 
--
I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.
KenK <invalid@invalid.com>: Jun 10 03:03PM

dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote in
> longer, then another half-hour, after another half-hour, I just gave
> up and ate these uncooked potatoes. I won't salt beans until after
> they're done as a general principle.
 
I got a big bag of frozen chicken dark meat pieces a while back.The
package says to cook then two or three minutes in the MW. The few times I
used than as a stand-alone meat course they were very tough. Last time I
let them sit out a few hours to thaw and then only cooked them for about
15 - 30 sec. to heat them up in the MW. Nice and tender!
 
 
--
I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jun 10 09:18AM -0700

On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 4:54:50 AM UTC-10, KenK wrote:
 
> I've never pre-soaked rice. Wasn't even aware that some people did.
 
> --
> I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.
 
It's something that Japanese and Korean folks do to cook medium grain rice. I don't know if Chinese people do that too. They cook a different kind of rice.
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jun 10 09:19AM -0700

On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 5:04:04 AM UTC-10, KenK wrote:
> 15 - 30 sec. to heat them up in the MW. Nice and tender!
 
> --
> I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.
 
That makes a lot of sense.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jun 10 11:43AM -0400

On 2020-06-10 11:40 a.m., Sqwertz wrote:
>> going round n' round the same oval all the time.
 
> If you weren't so runted then maybe you could see above the steering
> wheel and display screen. Ya dwarf.
 
A friend of mine bought one last summer. I think it has pretty nice
lines. He loves it.
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Jun 10 10:40AM -0500

On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 09:29:52 -0400, Sheldon Martin wrote:
 
> electric trains I had as a kid... does the Tesla come with extra
> tracks so you can design your own route... it's got to get boring
> going round n' round the same oval all the time.
 
If you weren't so runted then maybe you could see above the steering
wheel and display screen. Ya dwarf.
 
-sw
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Jun 10 10:41AM -0500

On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 18:58:45 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
 
> doesn't affect the bean tenderness - it's all just a kitchen myth.
> I sometimes soak, sometimes not, but I always salt and never had a
> problem except for old garbonzo beans.
 
I meant to include at least one cite.
 
https://www.seriouseats.com/2016/09/salt-beans-cooking-soaking-water-good-or-bad.html
 
-sw
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jun 10 10:55AM -0400

On 6/10/2020 6:37 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
> I shall have to ask the HR lady where I work.
 
> John Kuthe...
 
Hopefully as much as they are paying you.
ImStillMags <sitara8060@gmail.com>: Jun 10 07:52AM -0700

This awesome book is available right now on Kindle for $2.79 if anyone is interested.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 10 06:58AM -0700

On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 9:05:41 AM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
 
> I used to buy Zenobia pistachio nuts in five pound bags but I don't
> dare anymore, I'll keep eating til all are gone and my fingers are
> numb and raw from shelling.
 
Have you no self-discipline? Measure out a reasonable portion and
put the five-pound bag away.
 
> It's best to buy pistachios in their
> natural undyed shells unless you like red fingers. I think California
> pistachios are better than those from Turkey.
 
I usually buy shelled pistachios because I eat them as an afternoon snack
at work. I don't want the sound of cracking pistachio shells resounding
across the cube farm.
 
Cindy Hamilton
You received this digest because you're subscribed to updates for this group. You can change your settings on the group membership page.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it send an email to rec.food.cooking+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
Posted by at

No comments:

Post a Comment

Subscribe to: Post Comments (Atom)