Wednesday, June 10, 2020

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"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 10 10:14AM -0700

On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 9:02:12 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> Google "child shot by police" and see the horror.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
Do you mean Tamir Rice?
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 10 10:17AM -0700


> > Google "child shot by police" and see the horror.
 
> > Cindy Hamilton
 
> Do you mean Tamir Rice?
 
Among others, yes.
 
Cindy Hamilton
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 10 10:22AM -0700

On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 9:24:53 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> with a warning if you are polite and respectful. You don't have to
> admit that you did wrong but you can apologize for whatever you did
> wrong and say you will try to do better.
 
Remember when I said I got pulled over Memorial Weekend for speeding? I
didn't act like a jerk, screaming "I know my rights" or argue with the
police. I knew I was speeding so why act like an asshole and rack up a
bunch of tickets? I wasn't dragged out of my car and it wasn't towed and
nobody had to come bail me out of jail.
 
I drove away with a warning.
 
Why people want to act like they are in charge of the situation when they're
pulled over is beyond me.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 10 10:37AM -0700

On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 12:17:20 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> > Do you mean Tamir Rice?
 
> Among others, yes.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
https://i.postimg.cc/zffb28zv/BB-Gun-or-Pistol.jpg
 
Cameron Tillman --- was armed and that a gun was recovered near his
body. It was later reported that the weapon was a BB gun that
appeared to be a .45-caliber pistol. The cop was not named,
but was identified as an African-American veteran of the division
with no prior infractions.
 
Laquan McDonald --- After a tire-puncturing spree in late October,
17-year-old Laquan McDonald was shot dead by a police officer in
Chicago. Officers reported to a call about someone breaking into
cars in the Archer Heights neighborhood. The teen refused to drop
his knife, according to officers, fixed them with "a 100-yard stare,"
and walked toward them. That's when a cop fired at McDonald, killing
him.
 
Jeffrey Holden --- An 18-year-old was killed by police officers after
opening fire on a cop with two guns in Kansas City in late October.
Jeffrey Holden had reportedly been shooting at houses and passersby
before the authorities arrived at the scene. he was listed as a missing
person and had two outstanding warrants.
 
Qusean Whitten --- Two armed robbers were killed after holding up a
Dollar General Store in Columbus, Ohio in October. Eighteen-year-old
Qusean Whitten had jumped from the car he was using to flee the scene
and started running when police opened fire.
 
Sergio Ramos --- In August, an 18-year-old was shot and killed by a
Dallas police officer after a car crash in a parking lot near a Walmart
store. According to police, Sergio Ramos had just robbed a killed an
associate when he was confronted by an off-duty cop, reached for the
gun in his shorts, and was shot multiple times.
 
There's more.............
 
Miguel Benton --- In early October, 19-year-old Miguel Benton managed
to steal an officer's gun and shoot him twice. Two cops were transporting
Benton and another inmate to jail on drug and robbery charges in Georgia
when the incident occurred. Another officer shot and killed Benton.
 
Levi Weaver --- A man welding a baseball bat and a kitchen knife lunged
at police officers in his home in Georgia, and was fatally shot in late September. According to the sheriff, 18-year-old Levi Weaver begged the
officer to shoot him, and then leapt at him. The officer shot Weaver twice.
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jun 10 01:39PM -0400

On 6/10/2020 12:24 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
 
>> Most shootings of police officer happen within seconds of their initial
>> encounter.
 
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/2015/12/26/a-year-of-reckoning-police-fatally-shoot-nearly-1000/?itid=sf_
 
The other side of reality
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/09/11/los-angeles-police-video-officer-shot-point-blank-range/1273887002/
 
https://www.macon.com/news/local/crime/article218275885.html
 
https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2017/08/11/sc-officer-shot-glasses-camera-orig-vstop.cnn/video/playlists/november-2016-police-shootings/
 
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/bodycam-footage-shows-st-paul-officer-being-attacked-shooting-man-n1058291
graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: Jun 10 11:47AM -0600

On 2020-06-10 11:39 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
 
> https://www.macon.com/news/local/crime/article218275885.html
 
> https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2017/08/11/sc-officer-shot-glasses-camera-orig-vstop.cnn/video/playlists/november-2016-police-shootings/
 
> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/bodycam-footage-shows-st-paul-officer-being-attacked-shooting-man-n1058291
 
England is a cup of tea.
France, a wheel of ripened brie.
Greece, a short, squat olive tree.
America is a gun.
 
Brazil is a football on the sand.
Argentina, Maradona's hand.
Germany, an oompah band.
America is a gun.
 
Holland is a wooden shoe.
Hungary, a goulash stew.
Australia, a kangaroo.
America is a gun.
 
Japan is a thermal spring.
Scotland is a highland fling.
Oh, better to be anything
than America as a gun.
 
Brian Bilston
GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Jun 10 10:54AM -0700


> Levi Weaver --- A man welding a baseball bat and a kitchen knife lunged
> at police officers in his home in Georgia, and was fatally shot in late September. According to the sheriff, 18-year-old Levi Weaver begged the
> officer to shoot him, and then leapt at him. The officer shot Weaver twice.
 
 
Thank you, Joan...in all of the above case LEO's response was proper...
 
As for McDonald, he had been on a lengthy criminal spree by the time he was shot. Unfortunately, the CPD officer who shot him was accused and sent to prison, a miscarriage of justice IMO...
 
It is very easy in hindsight to be "judge and jury" re: these police actions, but the officers involved had a split - second "life - or - death" decision to make, they did not have minutes or even many seconds to ponder how they should react...
 
--
Best
Greg
GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Jun 10 10:56AM -0700

graham wrote:
 
> Oh, better to be anything
> than America as a gun.
 
> Brian Bilston
 
 
Nonsensical airy - fairy rubbish, graham...
 
--
Best
Greg
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jun 10 02:01PM -0400

On 2020-06-10 12:21 p.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 11:12:27 -0400, Dave Smith
> <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
 
re facing.
 
>> Most shootings of police officer happen within seconds of their initial
>> encounter.
 
> Let' see your stats.
 
That is the advice given in use of force training. I have taken it. If
you want to dispute the source, do your own research.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jun 10 02:04PM -0400

On 2020-06-10 12:24 p.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
 
>> Most shootings of police officer happen within seconds of their initial
>> encounter.
 
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/2015/12/26/a-year-of-reckoning-police-fatally-shoot-nearly-1000/?itid=sf_
 
That's nice, but I was referring to the cops being shot not the person
they were dealing with,
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jun 10 01:16PM -0400

On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 21:10:30 -0400, songbird <songbird@anthive.com>
wrote:
 
 
> i guess the salt comes in with the butter and some
>other things we eat.
 
> songbird
 
Salting dried beans at the start of cooking prevents the water from
penetrating the bean skin pores, the salt negates the osmosis, like
corking all those microscopic pores... beans toughen and the skins
become like toenails... best to wait until the beans just begin to
become tender before adding salt/cured meat. Cured meat doesn't
really flavor the interior of the beans nor do you want it to,
primarily it flavors the gravy, you should be tasting the natural bean
flavor as each type of bean has its own natural bean flavor, otherwise
blindfolded you couldn't tell lima from kidney.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 10 10:40AM -0700

On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 4:44:11 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> bland.
 
> References available upon request.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
You must have Jack in the Beanstalk magic beans. Salt will indeed
toughen skins and beans. They're still edible but not tender.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 10 10:41AM -0700

On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 9:58:40 AM UTC-5, KenK wrote:
 
> My mother and grandmother both spread the dry beans out on the kitchen
> table and checked them before cooking them. I never do. I'm sure I
> should.
 
That was one of my chores as a child and there were always rocks and bad
beans in the bag. But I don't see rocks and rarely a bad bean in the bag
now when I opt to cook dried beans.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jun 10 01:45PM -0400

On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 01:44:33 -0000 (UTC), Mike Duffy
>process of osmosis. Individual cells within a permeable extracellular
>matrix, and to a lesser extent exterior skins of organs are such
>membranes.
 
There's nothing lesser about my organ, are you saying my organ is
covered with a permeable membrane kinda like a teabag... and all this
time it felt like all of me blasted out the front in ginormous
lava-like spurts... so that's why women call me Vesuvius. ;)
 
 
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 10 10:46AM -0700


> > Cindy Hamilton
 
> You must have Jack in the Beanstalk magic beans. Salt will indeed
> toughen skins and beans. They're still edible but not tender.
 
When do the companies who produce canned beans add the salt? Right
at the beginning. The put the beans, salt, water, and whatever other
flavorings into the can, seal the can, then heat the can. Yet the skins
are tender.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jun 10 01:48PM -0400

On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 02:44:06 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>bland.
 
>References available upon request.
 
>Cindy Hamilton
 
Soaking is only necessary if you're rushed for time, but still dried
beans need to be picked over and washed.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jun 10 12:44PM -0400

On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 03:11:53 -0000 (UTC), Mike Duffy
>were the same person. Then when I realized I had conflated the two of
>them, I continued belabouring under the faulty perception that they were
>both in Hawaii.
 
For the cost of a luxury cruise ticket you can make that happen, but
we'd much rather sail to New Caledonia, Ukeleleland is too
commercialized.
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions-g294129-Activities-New_Caledonia.html
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jun 10 10:39AM -0700

On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 6:44:13 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> we'd much rather sail to New Caledonia, Ukeleleland is too
> commercialized.
> https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions-g294129-Activities-New_Caledonia.html
 
You need to get yourself a one-way ticket to the beautiful island of Kahoolawe. You'll appreciate its wild, natural, beauty and the fireworks show put on by the US Navy is not to be missed!
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_5TEkEhQGA
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jun 10 12:12PM -0500

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> numb and raw from shelling.
 
> Have you no self-discipline?
> Cindy Hamilton
 
Hahahahahahahahahah ... What a question to ask Popeye!
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jun 10 12:26PM -0400

On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 Bruce wrote:
>>Mine is made with V-8 juice, lots of black pepper
>>and no alcohol.
 
>Yep. alcohol's expensive.
 
Without the alcohol it'd be a Virgin Nun.
Crystal Palace is not expensive, may cost the same or less than tomato
juice or V8... and it'd be very stupid to use a $40 bottle of vodka in
such a mixed drink.
Worcestershire is like deodorant for Gary's 'used' beef... there are
far better marinades than worcestershire for so-so beef or even
premium beef... one of my favorites for a London broil of top round is
ginger, orange marmalade, garlic, white pepper and a bit of toasted
sesame seed oil. I've spoken to enough butchers to learn never to buy
that 'used' meat, if not cooked immediately upon arriving home you're
taking a risk. And I strongly suggest never buying 'used' ground beef
or grinding 'used' beef yourself. When I grind beef I ask for a
couple three 5-6 pound roasts when on sale... they never have large
roasts already on display so I know mine are freshly cut. The roasts
on display are rarely over 3 pounds and were put out in early morning,
not very fresh, you can tell old beef by that puddle of blood it's
swimming in. When I want a pork loin roast I buy a whole loin on sale
and portion it myself, even for on the bone I have a hack saw reserved
for cutting meat bones... I rather cut through those bones myself than
have it cut on the butcher's band saw that likely wasn't cleaned since
who knows when. I have the 12" saw, plenty big for home use:
https://www.alliedkenco.com/256.aspx
Allied kenco sells most everything butchers use.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 10 09:42AM -0700

On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 12:58:23 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
 
> I think he looks pretty good with some hair.
 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHwyChvmfvI
 
He must have had on spiked heels as Yul was only 5'8".
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 10 09:45AM -0700

On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 8:39:46 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
 
> The upstate Noo Yawkers really mangle the English language, I have a
> difficult time understanding them on the phone, there's a city not far
> from me named Cairo, here they pronounce it Kayrow.
 
There's also a Cairo, Illinois and I believe it is also pronounced as
Kayrow as in Karo syrup. Maybe Greg will come along and enlighten us.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 10 09:47AM -0700

On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 9:26:50 AM UTC-5, GM wrote:
 
> --
> Best
> Greg
 
Ok! (I should have read further down before replying to Sheldon.)
GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Jun 10 09:49AM -0700

> > Best
> > Greg
 
> Ok! (I should have read further down before replying to Sheldon.)
 
 
;-)
 
--
Best
Greg
graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: Jun 10 11:10AM -0600

>> from me named Cairo, here they pronounce it Kayrow.
 
> There's also a Cairo, Illinois and I believe it is also pronounced as
> Kayrow as in Karo syrup. Maybe Greg will come along and enlighten us.
 
People also talk of visiting Coasta Rica or eating risoato.
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