Wednesday, June 17, 2020

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notbob <notbob@nothome.com>: Jun 17 01:15PM

....to visit me and he's tearing the house apart (good thing cuz Imma
lazy ol' geezer).
 
Anyhow, I got a new 4 qt Crock-Pot and a 3-1/2 lb pork loin to cook
innit. Plan to make pull-pork sliders with (w/ King Hawaiian slider
buns). Any suggestions on how to make pull-pork or jes follow the
intructions (recipe) that came with the pot?
 
Recommend any good crock-pot recipe sites? ;)
 
nb
U.S. Janet B. <JB@nospam.com>: Jun 17 07:31AM -0600

>intructions (recipe) that came with the pot?
 
>Recommend any good crock-pot recipe sites? ;)
 
>nb
crock pot recipe is probably good. Those kind of recipes usually
appeal to everyone and are generally easy to do. Have fun.
Janet US
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 17 06:24AM -0400

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> could trust them to do the job the most expedient way and labor rate was
> fair. If there were alternatives they would bring them up. They earned
> a reputation and were careful to preserve it.
 
And that was my case. I didn't say that "no one" asked for a
price. I said "very few customers" did. And that was after I
had built up a clientele in the first few years. I did regular
work for these people plus they recommended me to their friends
and neighbors.
 
"Word of Mouth" advertising is the best form. That's the only
advertising that I did.
 
When I did give a price (or a range of price), I was always
happy to be able to charge less. I've never worked for
anyone else that would do that.
 
If they tell you, $5000 that's what they would charge even
if it worked out to cost less. If I told someone $5000
and it worked out to be $4600, that's what their bill
would be. I appreciated every job I got and I treated
my customers fairly.
 
Honestly, about 85% of my work was done with no price discussed.
The other 15% were new customers.
 
Funny: The only estimates that I gave and didn't get the
jobs were for newly married couples who said they always
did their own painting before. Hiring a professional was
quite a shock.
 
About 85% of a professional paint job is for labor.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jun 17 07:51AM -0400

>did their own painting before. Hiring a professional was
>quite a shock.
 
>About 85% of a professional paint job is for labor.
 
We have several tradespeople do work here, they all give their hourly
rate plus materials. The appliance repair person charges $65/hr +
parts, even if he completes the job in 15 minutes it's still $65 for
part of an hour, which obviously covers his travel. I can't expect a
price for a job over the phone when I call and explain the problem as
best as I can, he still needs to see the job. That's true for all
trades, the plumber needs to see the job before giving a price,
installing a toilet will be a different price depending on where.
If I'm happy with the work and price I'll call back and give a
recommendation, if not I'll never see him again.
No tradesman has given me a price after the job is completed, if they
know what they're doing they will be able to calculate cost before
starting. If you call a painter and he arrives to look at a job
without a tape measure it's best to write him off... that's true of
any tradesman, they all travel with a tape measure.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 17 10:15PM +1000

>did their own painting before. Hiring a professional was
>quite a shock.
 
>About 85% of a professional paint job is for labor.
 
I painted a few houses and nearly fell off a few ladders when I was
young, in order to finance holidays to France. I always quoted
customers a price for the whole job or worked at an agreed upon hourly
rate. Of course, Gary's a professional and I was an amateur, although
a more and more experienced one.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 17 08:25AM -0400

Sheldon Martin wrote:
 
> If you call a painter and he arrives to look at a job
> without a tape measure it's best to write him off...
 
You really are just as stupid as you pretend to be.
I thought your odd rants were due to Crystal Palace but
maybe you really are dumb as a clam in normal life.
 
If a painter shows up with a tape measure, best to
tell them nevermind. That's not any real experienced
painter.
 
Size doesn't matter. Many different conditions on any
job. A good experienced painter can mentally paint
a room and give an accurate price.
 
Measuring would only be to measure amount of paint
necessary and only a newbie would do that.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 17 08:27AM -0400

Sheldon Martin wrote:
> stoops and porches in Brooklyn I painted 65 years ago that still don't
> need repainting. A properly painted Benjamin Moore job can easily
> last 100 years. Benjamin Moore paints last like the pyramids.
 
I should print this out and post it in the paint stores.
All painting contractors would love to get a morning laugh
over this rant. lol
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jun 17 08:59AM -0400

>a room and give an accurate price.
 
>Measuring would only be to measure amount of paint
>necessary and only a newbie would do that.
 
Then for you all tradesmen who use tape measures are newbies.
All the tradesmen I've dealt with carried a tape measure, and a pad
with something to write down measurements. Those who show up without
a tape measure and paper and pencil are telling me that they can't do
basic math and are illiterate. Maybe all your painting is with cheapo
white that you stock by the truckload. Most people want different
colors for different rooms so a real painter would need to write down
the different colors and how much of each to arrive with.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 17 09:10AM -0400

Sheldon Martin wrote:
> white that you stock by the truckload. Most people want different
> colors for different rooms so a real painter would need to write down
> the different colors and how much of each to arrive with.
 
I always carried pad of paper to write down stuff. Just not a
worthless tape measure. I can easily judge how much paint I
will need. That comes with experience, not a tape measure.
 
Not only that, the one thing that separated me from the
regular painters is that I can match any color exactly.
Not many can do that.
 
On those color charts you see, there are many shades inbetween
all of them. I always carried a box of color tints to
make it perfect.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 17 09:00AM -0400

cshenk wrote:
> 1/2 c Canola oil or peanut oil
 
> Mix all that except the wrapper and oil until well blended. Set aside
> then separate the lumpia wrappers.
 
Carol, that sounds like a decent recipe for a spring roll.
Is the difference only the wrapper used?
 
I love the chinese spring rolls. Had a good recipe once but lost
it.
"Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>: Jun 17 10:37AM +0100

"Bruce" wrote in message news:lcmjef10j92tda2cffmusanni60f8n3h4c@4ax.com...
 
On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 09:43:01 +0100, "Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:
 
 
>Isn't it a form of cooking? :)
 
>==
 
>You need to ask Terry about that <g>
 
That could be difficult :)
 
===================
 
Why? He's here, ask him ,)
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 17 08:00PM +1000

On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 10:37:43 +0100, "Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:
 
>That could be difficult :)
 
>===================
 
> Why? He's here, ask him ,)
 
Yes, but I've hurt his feelings and he's killfiled me.
"Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>: Jun 17 11:23AM +0100

"Bruce" wrote in message news:kbqjef9nf6o5h41sq1029fj6r643ne2ovd@4ax.com...
 
On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 10:37:43 +0100, "Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:
 
>That could be difficult :)
 
>===================
 
> Why? He's here, ask him ,)
 
Yes, but I've hurt his feelings and he's killfiled me.
 
===
 
Pah, he's having you on:))
Snag <snag_one@msn.com>: Jun 17 06:50AM -0500

On 6/17/2020 5:23 AM, Ophelia wrote:
 
> Yes, but I've hurt his feelings and he's killfiled me.
 
>    ===
 
>   Pah, he's having you on:))
 
Nah , my feelings ain't hurt . I killfiled him because he's such a
prick and he NEVER contribute anything but discord and strife .
--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crotchety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 17 10:10PM +1000


>>   Pah, he's having you on:))
 
> Nah , my feelings ain't hurt . I killfiled him because he's such a
>prick and he NEVER contribute anything but discord and strife .
 
Ouch, now HE hurt MY feelings. But I'll be a man about it and I won't
killfile him.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jun 17 08:06AM -0400

>miles from the nearest town , which has a Walmart and one other grocery
>store . The nearest freeway is almost a hundred miles away ... and I
>haven't touched a bologna sandwich in over 25 years .
 
11 miles to Walmart is not far from anywhere, and has to have a large
population to rate a Walmart.
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jun 17 04:56AM -0700

On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 2:19:19 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
 
> > and the Hummingbirds LOVE IT! :-)
 
> > John Kuthe...
 
> OMG! You're not supposed to juice them!
 
*I* call it Hummingbird Juice, 4 cups water to one sugar! Fake flower nectar! But they love it! :-)
 
John Kuthe...
"Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>: Jun 17 10:49AM +0100

From D.
 
Unfortunately it isn't so cheap in UK
 
A 5oz bar of Fels naptha costs £8.99, a 500g box of Borax substitute
(ordinary borax is no longer available in the EU) is £2.30, and a 350g box
of washing soda is £4.99. So at about £16.30 total at the current exchange
rate that would come out at $20.45. You'd get a lot of cups of borax and
soda out of those boxes but the cost of the naptha is the killer. I'd guess
you could use ordinary soap to bring that price down dramatically but the
cleaning power probably wouldn't be as good, even then commercial detergent
might be almost as cheap.
Snag <snag_one@msn.com>: Jun 17 06:47AM -0500

On 6/17/2020 4:49 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> killer. I'd guess you could use ordinary soap to bring that price down
> dramatically but the cleaning power probably wouldn't be as good, even
> then commercial detergent might be almost as cheap.
 
I'm not sure what we paid for the fels naptha , but it sure wasn't
that expensive . Perhaps there is an equivalent product sold there
that's cheaper ?
--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crotchety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 17 02:47AM -0700

On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 6:58:47 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
 
> >I'd say or both of the Roosevelts...
 
> >;-)
 
> Correct!
 
Ok. Let's have FDR back.
 
Cindy Hamilton
"Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>: Jun 17 10:38AM +0100

"Bruce" wrote in message news:ja5ief579crevt1rt4p7vp2hoel3rlbnh6@4ax.com...
 
On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 19:52:42 +0100, "Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:
 
>holidays in southern Europe. Now I use it every day.
 
>===
 
> You too eh?? :)))
 
I don't know when you lived in Malta, but I bet they use a lot of
olive oil there.
 
====
 
I haven't been there for many years, but yes, olive oil was common .
"Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>: Jun 17 10:11AM +0100

"Mike Duffy" wrote in message news:rcbhvm$9fm$2@dont-email.me...
 
On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 17:55:45 +0100, Ophelia wrote:
 
> LOL ask me how I know!!
 
I seem to recall that someone pulling a trailer ('caravan') has right-of-
way over other vehicles, i.e. so it does have to back up to a wider point
of the track so they can pass one another.
 
The exception, of course, is the pickup truck pulling the camper trailer
which is pulling a boat on another trailer. He then has right-of-way over
everyone else.
 
===
 
We never knew that!
"Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>: Jun 17 10:16AM +0100

"dsi1" wrote in message
news:b23ef8b6-8e85-4977-bf31-7401b8106eafo@googlegroups.com...
 
> Not too sure about here though:) We are a bit remote:) I would
> expect
> visitors to want to be in Glasgow or Edinburgh:)
 
Well, okay. I shall remember that.
 
Well if you ever land in Scotland, let us know:))
 
 
Dinner tonight was pork adobo with potato. I've made a lot of adobo, but
this was the first time I made it with potato. The potatoes come out real
nice. Adobo is a Filipino dish that's popular in Hawaii because we got a lot
of Filipinos here. It is meat boiled in soy sauce, vinegar, black pepper,
garlic, and bay leaves. The real Filipinos would probably add some fish
sauce/paste or bagoong but I never have.
 
https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/YN5xHpIUQi-7AD8QBx9VhQ.a2s2a-OM5p5D5he1jd0lLD
 
 
They are pretty big pieces!
barbie gee <booger@nosespam.com>: Jun 16 09:19PM -0500

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