Friday, June 26, 2020

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 5 topics

Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 26 09:58AM -0400

Bruce wrote:
> But just the fact that you have to be there from x am until y pm...
> Some people couldn't work self-employed, though. They wouldn't do
> anything :) It's not for everybody.
 
To be successful self employed you do need discipline to work
when you have work.
 
I've known a few that were self employed and their wife also
had a job that was steady income and paid the bills. One of
them slacked off because of that.
 
In my case, single parent and no spouse, I worked every single
day that I had work to do. I would never go to the beach on
a nice day because I wasn't required to. If I had work, I
was always there. I would feel guilty taking off a frivolous
day.
 
I had to reset my weekends too. Not every Sat and Sun off.
My weekends came inbetween jobs no matter what day of week
it was.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 26 09:59AM -0400


> You probably weren't paying attention when Nancy Pukeosi said "We don't
> know what's in the bill until we pass it." Gotta love that power-hungry
> bitch. She actually said that.
 
When Congress passes a bill, only the first few important things
are voted on. Many other small things included in about 400
pages...grants for this and that, etc. are often ignored other
than staff looking through them to advise.
 
Nancy Pelosi really is the wicked witch of the west. I wish
she would get voted out but she won't. Her California district
loves her.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 26 10:25AM -0400

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> It's a decent policy, but very chintzy on covering prescriptions. My
> husband uses GoodRx or the Kroger "prescription club" for several of his,
> and doesn't bother trying to use insurance for them.
 
At least YOU realize the high cost of healthcare. Many have
company paid or co-paid and don't realize just how expensive
it actually is. It's insane.
 
Start your own business and not only do you pay it all
but an individual policy has very few benefits as compared
to a larger company group policy.
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jun 26 12:30PM -0400

On 6/26/2020 5:01 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>> Not free, but free to them. Not everyone, but plenty of people. Free
>> stuff! It's only fair!
 
> What free stuff are you talking about? Healthcare? Medical care isn't free but it should be. Who the heck is selling free healthcare? I'm voting for that guy. That's some pretty darn exciting news!
 
Please explain how to make healthcare free.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 26 12:37PM -0400

Bruce wrote:
 
> That sounds bad, but I find it hard to believe that he'd want to come
> up with a plan to include everybody and then fail so badly. I don't
> think he's stupid plus he had advisors.
 
Believe it or not, that's what happened here. No...no right at
all.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 26 01:00PM -0400

Sheldon Martin wrote:
 
> And avoid declaring lots of income.
 
If you don't declare your income, you are a tax cheater.
Part of the underground economy that hurts us.
 
> If someone has their house
> painted and pays cash they'll get a lower price
 
Only tax cheaters. A few of my customers paid in cash.
They got no discount as I claimed all my income.
 
> and no one really
> needs a receipt for a paint job unless it's a capital improvement for
> a business...
 
Receipts are good deducting rental improvement and also for
your own house if you're fixing it up to sell.
 
 
> but home owners are only looking for a good price for a
> good job, and for cash there's no tax.
 
Tax cheating supporter POS is all you are.
 
Funny too as so many people bitch about the very rich paying as
little tax as they can. Yes they do, but they do it legally.
Blame
Congress and their laws for that.
 
You on the other hand are supporting tax fraud by paying in cash
to people that might give you a discount and them not declaring
that income. It's people like you multiplied by millions that
really hurt our country and economy. Very double standard.
 
When a few customers paid me in cash, they got no discount and I
deposited that cash and paid my proper taxes on it.
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jun 26 10:15AM -0700

On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 6:30:33 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> stuff! It's only fair!
 
> > What free stuff are you talking about? Healthcare? Medical care isn't free but it should be. Who the heck is selling free healthcare? I'm voting for that guy. That's some pretty darn exciting news!
 
> Please explain how to make healthcare free.
 
I don't know how but apparently people keep voting for free stuff. It's totally amazing!
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 26 06:54AM -0700

On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 9:27:34 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > only time my gun is unloaded is when I'm cleaning it then it is reloaded
> > with hollow points until the next cleaning.
 
> Hollow points. You're packing serious heat.
 
Hollow points have the advantage over standard ammo in that
they'll rarely punch right through someone (or something)
and hit an innocent bystander behind the target.
 
Cindy Hamilton
"Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>: Jun 26 02:58PM +0100

"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
news:b013aebf-43c8-41a1-b0b0-6b5e07edfd1ao@googlegroups.com...
 
On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 5:16:11 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
 
> Cindy Hamilton
> ===
 
> Quite so, but what if they are running away?
 
If they are still coming at you
then
you may shoot
else
you may not shoot
 
Cindy Hamilton
 
=====
 
How can they be 'coming at you' while they are running away?
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 26 07:04AM -0700

On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 5:11:56 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
 
> Unless you're a cop, then you can shoot people in the back like some no good dirty bushwhacking sidewinder.
 
No, you cannot.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 26 07:22AM -0700

On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 8:27:34 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> > only time my gun is unloaded is when I'm cleaning it then it is reloaded
> > with hollow points until the next cleaning.
 
> Hollow points. You're packing serious heat. What caliber?
 
.38
> seal it up.
 
> Shoot someone even in the shoulder or leg with one of those
> and they will die quickly.
 
https://i.postimg.cc/rsN6P4PF/Hollow-Points.jpg
 
> So Joan...did you ever get a good holster? I remember you
> were looking for one once.
 
I haven't found one that I 'really' like. I've looked at the small of
back type but still haven't decided. I've also looked at the fanny/waist
pack type that has the breakaway zipper that would be good for when I ride
my bike.
 
> Also, do you "carry" outside of the home often or just
> mostly keep it handy in the house?
 
Not too often. My brother thinks it should be on me at all times when
I'm out. Carrying a loaded gun in a purse begins to feel like you are
toting a concrete block around.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 26 07:26AM -0700

On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 8:54:30 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> they'll rarely punch right through someone (or something)
> and hit an innocent bystander behind the target.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
True, true. More than once a single shot by a policeman using a revolver
has put a criminal on the slab. Now they favor automatic pistols.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 26 07:36AM -0700

On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 9:58:32 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
> =====
 
> How can they be 'coming at you' while they are running away?
 
Did you not see the word "if" in the first clause?
 
Cindy Hamilton
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jun 26 01:05PM -0400

> On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 5:11:56 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
 
>> Unless you're a cop, then you can shoot people in the back like some no good dirty bushwhacking sidewinder.
 
> No, you cannot.
 
They sure can't do that here. Even if a cop shoots a guy coming at him
with a knife there is a chance he will be charged.
 
In fact. we had a case here a few years ago where a young man with a
knife was shot by a cop. They guy was messed up, had been laughed for
exposing his dick in a streetcar, then slashed at woman seated nearby.
Passengers all fled, exploding through the doors as soon as they opened.
Cops arrived, one kept telling the guy to drop the knife, warned him
not to advance..... guy advanced and the cop fired a volley of shoots
into him.... all legal so far. But... then the cop fired a second
volley of shots into what an expert witness claimed was a dead body. Cop
was charged and convicted of attempted murder. ... even though the
initial shooting and killing was legal.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jun 26 01:14PM -0400


>> Cindy Hamilton
 
> True, true. More than once a single shot by a policeman using a revolver
> has put a criminal on the slab. Now they favor automatic pistols.
 
That would be semiautomatic pistols. They give them more firepower.
They can carry several extra magazines with 15 rounds each rather than
revolver speed loaders with only 6 rounds each. I don't know about the
US prices, but up here a revolver is usually more expensive than a
decent quality semiautomatic.
 
 
I remember reading that the US marines went into WWII with the old
Springfield bolt action rifle because it was reliable and accurate and
troops would not need as much ammunition. A semi automatic can blow off
a lot of heavy ammunition very quickly.
Daniel <me@sci.fidan.com>: Jun 26 10:08AM -0700


> I have had chopped up cauliflower. It is okay. I suppose it can be
> mixed with other things and fried up in patties. I shall put on my
> thinking cap.
 
I like to steam the cauliflower then make a good cheddar sauce and
combine. I stir around as the cauliflower breaks up. I've converted a
number of people who claimed to not cauliflower after trying it.
 
I just called it cheesy cauliflower.
--
Daniel
 
Visit me at: gopher://gcpp.world
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 26 07:36AM -0700

On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 5:58:00 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
 
> I went to the courthouse years ago for jury selection. We was waiting around and a guy came out and told us the defendant had made a plea deal and we could go. . The judge is so happy about it that he's willing to give a lighter sentence.
 
Really?? That must be a peculiarity of Hawaiian courts.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 26 07:41AM -0700

On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 7:22:32 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> (3 misdeamors = a felony in Virginia)
 
> Imagine what 8 years in prison would cost the state too.
> All for stealing a $5 box of steak. (I assumed Steakums).
 
Pffttt. He probably would have been out in less than 5 years with good
behavior.
 
> I also was NOT going to vote to send him to prison for
> 8 years just for that. I would think some hours of
> community service would have been a better sentence.
 
He shouldn't have a lowlife thief if he didn't like the idea of prison.
> that the defendant was guilty but I was NOT going to
> vote that. Not with that harsh sentence. That was
> just so wrong.
 
So, you already had your mind made up instead of listening to all sides
and consider what you'd heard in the courtroom.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 26 07:46AM -0700

On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 8:01:34 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
 
> After that amount of time some of the witnesses will be gone and the
> evidence perhaps mislaid. They end up getting acquitted for lack of
> evidence, not necessarily because the were actually innocent.
 
They're not acquitted, they've been found guilty and the lawyers are
dragging out the sentence being carried out. The cancer on society is
sitting in jail and getting three meals a day and receiving visitations
from his family. Meanwhile, the family of his victim(s) are visiting a
grave.
 
> > Just last month one was granted another stay of execution because of the
> > Covid19 virus here in Tennessee.
 
> That seems like an odd reason to stay an execution.
 
ANYTHING, absolutely anything to delay their just reward.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 26 07:46AM -0700

On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 8:25:15 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> When I was on jury duty, I was paid by my employer just as if I
> had been at work.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
I was, too.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 26 12:33PM -0400


> Pffttt. He probably would have been out in less than 5 years with good
> behavior.
 
Even 5 years in prison for shoplifting $5 worth of steaks?
 
> > 8 years just for that. I would think some hours of
> > community service would have been a better sentence.
 
> He shouldn't have a lowlife thief if he didn't like the idea of prison.
 
Agreed but the sentence was way overkill.
 
> > just so wrong.
 
> So, you already had your mind made up instead of listening to all sides
> and consider what you'd heard in the courtroom.
 
As I said, I listened to all sides that morning and was convinced
that the guy was guilty. I still wasn't going to vote to send him
to prison for many years for that. Just because something is
"official" doens't make it right.
 
After the trial was dismissed, I talked to a couple of other
jurors on the way out to our cars. Both agreed with me that
the guy was obviously guilty but the harsh sentence was
way overboard. Both had also planned to vote not guilty.
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jun 26 12:39PM -0400

On 6/25/2020 3:20 PM, songbird wrote:
> (and was doing a real poor job of it in the jury selection
> part) and i doubt he won just based upon how bad that went.
 
> songbird
 
Not sure what I would do, but I'd try to be impartial. Some people do
seem kind of sleazy so human nature would make it easy to lean to guilty
in spite of evidence. Easy to say sitting at a keyboard versus hearing
testimony. Cases like that can be difficult to determine who it
truthful. Good chance nither for part of it.
Lucretia Borgia <lucretiaborgia@fl.it>: Jun 26 10:52AM -0300


>A day to be nice (for a change) to one of us here.
 
>Happy Birthday, Julie! :-D
 
Happy Birthday Julie (if indeed it is your birthday lol)
"Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>: Jun 26 03:02PM +0100

"Gary" wrote in message news:5EF5D6B4.B58FDA28@att.net...
 
A day to be nice (for a change) to one of us here.
 
Happy Birthday, Julie! :-D
 
=====
 
Is it her birthday? If so, I hope you have a really good one, Julie!
Enjoy:))
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 26 10:11AM -0400

Ophelia wrote:
 
> =====
 
> Is it her birthday? If so, I hope you have a really good one, Julie!
> Enjoy:))
 
YES! Today (June 26) is Julie's birthday.
http://www.recfoodcooking.org/birthday.php
 
I remember because mine is tomorrow.
Happy Birthday Gary tomorrow, dammit! :)
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