Monday, June 8, 2020

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 6 topics

jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Jun 08 11:33AM -0400

On 6/7/2020 8:31 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> drive. En route he thanked me and told me he would have had less
>> groceries next week if he had to pay a cab.
 
> GASP! You offered a guy a ride.
 
Ain't it grand! Last year I gave a woman who had walked to the
convenience store a ride home. It started pouring down rain and even
though it was a couple of miles out of my way and I didn't know her, I
drove her home. Doesn't make me some kind of hero. I've bought meals
for homeless people, too. Again, doesn't make me a hero. She's picking
on Dave (and now me) for not offering this woman at the clinic a ride to
get cataract surgery when his wife needed him at home to help her after
retinal surgery. Good lord.
 
Jill
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Jun 08 11:38AM -0400

On 6/7/2020 5:48 PM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> appointments. Beyond ridiculous.
 
>> Jill
 
> Still cranking? What's the matter SO go back to his wife??
 
Oh goody. Name-calling and now dragging up that old chestnut. Just
like a troll. I suppose the next thing you'll say is my mother owned an
Aunt Jemima cookie jar and my cat Persia jumped on the kitchen counter
and broke it. Another bit of fake info. Feel free to continue with
your delusions. Seems to be your last resort when you're wrong.
 
Jill
graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: Jun 08 08:24AM -0600

On 2020-06-08 5:14 a.m., Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> Wymondham is pronounced Windum.
>> Happisburgh is Hazebruh.
 
> How about Worcestershire Sauce ?
 
That's a perennial here!
graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: Jun 08 08:28AM -0600

>>> mispronounced it just makes my hair stand on end.
 
>> Shouldn't it be "Day Mwone"?
 
> Yes. But tell that to someone who also says Illy-noise.
 
There is a small town near Calgary called "Balzac" that was actually
named after the French author.
The local pronunciation is Ball-zack when the correct pronunciation of
the author's name is closer to "Barl-zack" i.e., between 'Bal' (short a)
and 'Barl'.
GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Jun 08 07:32AM -0700

> and cities. Greg lives in Illinois and the 's' is silent, but you'll frequently hear it pronounced 'Illy-noise.' Also, there is a city in Iowa by the name
> of Des Moine and it will be mangled to 'Dez Moines.' When I hear those places
> mispronounced it just makes my hair stand on end.
 
 
Many French place names in Illinois, and they are often pronounced very differently from the original French, examples from wiki:
 
"How do you pronounce Marseilles Il?
 
Marseilles of France is pronounced "mar-SAY", while Marseilles of Illinois has been anglicized to "mar-SAILS..."
 
"How do you pronounce Bourbonnais IL?
 
Pronunciation. The original French pronunciation of Bourbonnais came to be Anglicized over time to /bərˈboʊnɪs/ bər-BOH-nis. In 1974, a state representative from Bourbonnais introduced a resolution "correcting" the pronunciation of the town's name to /bɜːrbəˈneɪ/ bur-bə-NAY, closer to the French..."
 
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Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jun 08 10:47AM -0400

On 6/8/2020 9:09 AM, Gary wrote:
 
>> OB food. You can also buy good Wordder Ice there too.
 
> What actually is Wordder Ice? I can't intrepret that.
> I tried.
 
Italian water ice. Some regions may call it a slushy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_ice
GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Jun 08 07:52AM -0700

graham wrote:
 
> The local pronunciation is Ball-zack when the correct pronunciation of
> the author's name is closer to "Barl-zack" i.e., between 'Bal' (short a)
> and 'Barl'.
 
 
So how might they pronounce "Cousin Bette"...???
 
;-)
 
--
Best
Greg
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 08 07:52AM -0700

On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 10:23:17 AM UTC-4, graham wrote:
 
> > Cheh-shure, using a schwa for the "i" in "shire".
 
> i.e., the short "e" sound as in "egg" and the "shire" part rhymes with
> "here".
 
Only if you don't pronounce egg with a long A at the beginning, as in the
word hay.
 
> > How do you pronounce Hampshire? Hamp-shure? Or Hamp-sh-eye-r?
 
> > Cindy Hamilton
 
> Hamp-shear (as in shearing sheep)
 
Huh. I've always heard people put the schwa there. Sadly, this PC
doesn't have speakers, so I can't find the Received Pronunciation of the
word.
 
Cindy Hamilton
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Jun 08 11:17AM -0400

On 6/7/2020 3:25 PM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
 
> Time for you to shut up McBiddy - for a start I wasn't even around
> usenet December/January, that might have been when he mentioned it.
> Rarely miss his posts, just about the only worthwhile ones here.
 
Oh nice, resort to name-calling. Ed mentioned well before building the
house and moving to Florida (long before December/January) that his son
lived there. I remember it distinctly because Sheldon kept saying Ed
would regret moving from CT to FL where he didn't know anyone. Ed
spelled it out very clearly, he wasn't moving to a place where he didn't
know anyone.
 
Jill
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Jun 08 11:20AM -0400

On 6/7/2020 7:58 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> Before you know it, you're pronouncing the x in Bordeaux.
 
> At a really classy restaurant I had a glass of Bore docs with my es car
> got.
 
More important, were there prices listed on the menus given to the women? ;)
 
Jill
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Jun 08 11:21AM -0400

> and cities. Greg lives in Illinois and the 's' is silent, but you'll frequently hear it pronounced 'Illy-noise.' Also, there is a city in Iowa by the name
> of Des Moine and it will be mangled to 'Dez Moines.' When I hear those places
> mispronounced it just makes my hair stand on end.
 
What about AR-KANSAS? LOL
 
Jill
graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: Jun 08 09:32AM -0600

On 2020-06-08 9:21 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> mispronounced it just makes my hair stand on end.
 
> What about AR-KANSAS? LOL
 
> Jill
and why is it "My-ami" instead of "Me-ami"?
Boron Elgar <boron_elgar@hotmail.com>: Jun 08 11:38AM -0400


>> How do you pronounce Hampshire? Hamp-shure? Or Hamp-sh-eye-r?
 
>> Cindy Hamilton
 
>Hamp-shear (as in shearing sheep)
 
"In Hertford, Hereford, and Hampshire, hurricanes hardly ever happen"
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Jun 08 10:59AM -0400

> had their noodle side dishes in the past and they've always been flavorful.
> Why this was better tonight after a thorough chill, I don't know but glad
> it wasn't bland like it was Friday night.
 
I tried that stuff once and was equally unimpressed. Tiny bits of
dehydrated broccoli, hardly worth mentioning. Were I to doctor it up
I'd add more broccoli. :)
 
Jill
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jun 08 11:10AM -0400

On 6/8/2020 9:07 AM, Gary wrote:
 
> excuse to drink.
 
> If the food is right, no need to "cleanse the pallet"
> and eliminate that good taste.
 
Never got drunk on wine, though people do.
 
I don't know what you mean by cleansing the pallet. It is not a
cleansing but a complement. Like gravy on mashed potatoes or ketchup on
a burger, a sip of a good Cabernet with a nice steak is just plain good
flavors.
 
Wine and cheese makes a nice easy Saturday dinner too.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Jun 08 11:27AM -0400

On 6/8/2020 11:10 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> cleansing but a complement. Like gravy on mashed potatoes or ketchup on
> a burger, a sip of a good Cabernet with a nice steak is just plain good
> flavors.
 
Cleansing the palate is something done between wine tastings. It's not
done when drinking wine paired with a meal.
 
> Wine and cheese makes a nice easy Saturday dinner too.
 
Add a little bread (a baguette, perhaps) and you've got a picnic on the
lanai. :)
 
Jill
graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: Jun 08 09:27AM -0600

On 2020-06-08 9:10 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> a burger, a sip of a good Cabernet with a nice steak is just plain good
> flavors.
 
> Wine and cheese makes a nice easy Saturday dinner too.
 
I've written this before but a few years ago I had a friend for dinner
and as the main was grilled lamb chops, I opened a bottle of Bordeaux
from a classed growth chateau (Gruaud-Larose) before starting the
cooking. After an initial taste I thought that I might have to open
another bottle but by the time we sat down to eat, it was perfect with
the lamb. To finish off the bottle, I served some 5year-old cheddar. The
result was remarkable. The flavours of both the wine and the cheese
"exploded" in the mouth. Many years later, my friend still remarks on
that experience.
BTW I wouldn't serve a red wine with all cheeses. Think of the
differences between Stilton, Cheddar and Camembert
graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: Jun 08 09:34AM -0600

On 2020-06-08 9:27 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
 
> Add a little bread (a baguette, perhaps) and you've got a picnic on the
> lanai. :)
 
> Jill
Bread, cheese, a pickled onion and a pint of ale. Another great combination.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Jun 08 10:46AM -0400

>> there was a reason why the guy from Hawaii sounded a bit off sometimes.
 
> Crusty Kruller takes the prize most times. He came into the group being
> an in-your-face asshole and has yet to disappoint.
 
He came in ranting about religion. Quickly switched to "gluten free"
everything. I doubt anyone cares if he avoids gluten.
 
Jill
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jun 08 10:49AM -0400

On 2020-06-08 10:46 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> an in-your-face asshole and has yet to disappoint.
 
> He came in ranting about religion.  Quickly switched to "gluten free"
> everything.  I doubt anyone cares if he avoids gluten.
 
We already had a few too many attention whores when he arrived. He was
bozoed with record speed.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 08 07:56AM -0700

On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 10:46:16 AM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
> > an in-your-face asshole and has yet to disappoint.
 
> He came in ranting about religion. Quickly switched to "gluten free"
> everything. I doubt anyone cares if he avoids gluten.
 
Only to the extent that he has a shit fit if you mention wheat.
 
Cindy Hamilton
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Jun 08 11:23AM -0400

On 6/8/2020 10:56 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> everything. I doubt anyone cares if he avoids gluten.
 
> Only to the extent that he has a shit fit if you mention wheat.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
There's that. Sorry I don't have a problem with wheat or gluten or
anything that might contain gluten. Or nuts, for that matter, except
when it comes to nuts on usenet. ;)
 
Jill
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Jun 08 10:55AM -0400

On 6/7/2020 10:21 AM, Gary wrote:
 
>> Jill
 
> I call bullshit on you, Jill. You would never imagine using
> such a thing now.
 
Only because it's easy enough to combine breadcrumbs (or crushed
stuffing crumbs) and seasonings. I always have breadcrumbs on hand and
plenty of dried herbs and spices.
 
 
> Bruce can look up "BBQ flavor" shake-n-bake ingredients.
> It was a strange concoction. I remember mostly red dye
> and sugar.
 
You're talking apples and oranges. I've never tried the "BBQ flavor"
Shake-n-Bake, I didn't even know they made such a thing. I'm talking
about the original stuff which was pretty much just seasoned breadcrumbs
and came with a bag in which to shake the chicken pieces to coat.
 
Jill
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Jun 08 10:38AM -0400


> It's a soapbox derby. Kids make cars out of wooden boxes and race to see
> who will win, downhill of course. Many fathers get into the building of
> the wooden cars and there have been cases of cheating over the years.
 
I thought soapbox derby's went out of fashion about the time men stopped
wearing fedoras. ;)
 
Jill
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jun 08 10:47AM -0400

On 2020-06-08 10:38 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> the wooden cars and there have been cases of cheating over the years.
 
> I thought soapbox derby's went out of fashion about the time men stopped
> wearing fedoras. ;)
 
When we moved to St.Catharines back in the mid 60s there was a Soap Box
Derby Hill. It was actually a city street with a couple houses on it in
a quiet little corner of the city. In the mid 70s they built a highway
though the city and the grade was removed, so no more steep hill for
soap box races and no more derby.
 
 
When my son was in cubs they had a competition project with little
gravity race car kits. The kids paid to buy a kit and then had to
assemble and decorate them. I was ticked off about the first place
winner. The son of a wood carver won, and it was obviously the father's
work, along with a paint job that I doubt a kid that young could do on
his own.
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