Thursday, June 18, 2020

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 7 topics

Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jun 17 10:40PM -0400

On 6/17/2020 9:21 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
 
> I like just enough smoke flavor to taste it's there, but I reckon some
> folks do like a stronger smoke flavor.
 
You really have to be careful with the liquid. I've used it a couple of
times where it gave that hint of smoke but it is very easy to ruin
something.
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jun 17 10:19PM -0500

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
 
> You really have to be careful with the liquid.  I've used it a
> couple of times where it gave that hint of smoke but it is very
> easy to ruin something.
 
I know. When I first started using it, I ruined a couple of things
before I started throttling it way, way back.
 
But maybe some like a very strong smoke flavor. Like you, I want
just enough to know it's there.
 
If you use too little, maybe you don't get all the taste you were
shooting for, but at least the food isn't ruined and inedible.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 18 03:03PM +1000

On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 18:50:07 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> > some folks do like a stronger smoke flavor.
 
>> actually, it doesn't take on as much smoke flavor as you would think. The first time I made it I thought 2 T was too much as well. The next time I used the 2 T and it was just right.
 
>The people on this rock need Liquid Smoke because it's an important ingredient of oven kalua pork. I've been making it since I was in high school. Mostly, I use a couple of teaspoons or less.
 
I'd have thought your rock people would make their own smoke, rather
than rely on an industrial concoction.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 18 05:39AM -0400

> can of diluted cream of mushroom soup. Simmered all very slowly for about
> an hour.
 
> Served with fried corn and green beans. Heavenly!
 
I do that occasionally with pork chops. I like to add
mashed potatoes on the side too for that good "gravy."
I also only dilute the can with about 1/3 can water.
 
Just curious:
If it turned out heavenly, why did you describe the can of
cream of mushroom soup as "the dreaded can of...?"
Leo <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net>: Jun 17 09:38PM -0700

On 2020 Jun 16, , Bruce wrote
 
> Of course, the Roosevelts are Dutch.
 
Sure, but they wouldn't admit to it in a New York Minuit.
 
leo
Leo <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net>: Jun 17 09:55PM -0700

On 2020 Jun 16, , jmcquown wrote
(in article <a66GG.11840$DO2.7315@fx45.iad>)
 
> https://i.postimg.cc/xT6FycYf/sunset914.jpg
 
Nice picture!
 
> that I'd rather not have come into the house. Don't want the lizard in
> the house, either. Still, there's no source of water for it so I wish
> it would find its' way out when I have the garage door open.
 
The skink is doing you a favor by eating unwanted bugs. Do it a favor by
providing a low source of water with a ramp. Or not. It will leave or die
soon enough. Or a cat will get it.
I don't mind wolf spiders in my house. Once in a while, they end up in
the bathtub which is a death trap. They can't get out. I've provided a
piece of string as a ladder.
My wife tolerates my creepy benevolence, but she doesn't like it. I will
kill a black widow spider on sight.
 
leo
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 18 03:03PM +1000

On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 21:38:18 -0700, Leo <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
 
>(in article<53kieftblh3nsbjprk99hs0ep8fpqj63o4@4ax.com>):
 
>> Of course, the Roosevelts are Dutch.
 
>Sure, but they wouldn't admit to it in a New York Minuit.
 
I guess they were ashamed of it.
Leo <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net>: Jun 17 10:27PM -0700

On 2020 Jun 17, , Bruce wrote
> wrote:
> > Sure, but they wouldn't admit to it in a New York Minuit.
 
> I guess they were ashamed of it.
 
Shame on you! You appear not to know who the Dutch founder of New York was.
;-)
 
leo
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 18 03:34PM +1000

On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 22:27:24 -0700, Leo <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
 
 
>> I guess they were ashamed of it.
 
>Shame on you! You appear not to know who the Dutch founder of New York was.
>;-)
 
Peter Stuyvesant.
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Leo <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net>: Jun 17 11:23PM -0700

On 2020 Jun 17, , Bruce wrote
> > ;-)
 
> Peter Stuyvesant.
> <https://shop.a-kerk.nl/images/products/6159003143.png>
 
Peter Minuit.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Minuit>
 
Old Pete -->Minuit<-- bought Manhattan Island for twenty-four bucks. I'd
even do that today. Stuyvesant was just some punk wannabe who blundered in
later to undeserved fame. Hell, even Bed-Stuy has another guy named before
him. Pfffft!
 
leo
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 18 07:38PM +1000

On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 23:23:19 -0700, Leo <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
 
>even do that today. Stuyvesant was just some punk wannabe who blundered in
>later to undeserved fame. Hell, even Bed-Stuy has another guy named before
>him. Pfffft!
 
So Peter Minuit -who I've never heard of- bought Manhattan and Peter
Stuyvesant founded New Amsterdam.
"cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net>: Jun 17 09:32PM -0500

Snag wrote:
 
> deal , on good sales once or twice a year . So when on sale , we
> stock up . I suppose buying canned goods by the case offends you too
> ...
 
He will not understand. He refuses to do so. It's a loss-leader
battle to try to get the concept in his head but i bet you everyone
else gets it just fine.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 18 02:38AM -0700

On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 10:23:55 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
 
> You do know regular folks figured this one out 100 years ago and more
> right? I hope you also realize some live in fairly remote areas and
> dont HAVE a quickie-mart with a fresh meat butcher nearby right?
 
He's at least partially right. Freezing, especially at domestic-freezer
temperatures, creates ice crystals that break cell walls. A steak
frozen at home will not be as good as a fresh steak.
 
Still, it's better than no steak at all.
 
The loss of quality is far outweighed by the convenience of opening
the freezer, pulling out a steak, and having a quick and tasty
dinner with relatively little effort. Especially for those of us
who have a job.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 18 03:03PM +1000

On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 17:25:35 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>
wrote:
 
>requires greater skill... both require the same brute labor.
>I've proved many times that a ten year old can out paint any so-called
>pro painter. Painting is no more a trade than floor sweeping.
 
It's a skilled trade alright. And it's not only about painting, but
just as much about the preparation.
Janet <nobody@home.org>: Jun 18 10:34AM +0100

In article <PNGdnUH0T7sPDXfDnZ2dnUU7-fXNnZ2d@giganews.com>, cshenk1
@cox.net says...
> supervisiory middle management SQL job. They offered 36K and I laughed
> and walked.
 
> https://devskiller.com/sql-developer-salary/
 
When US employers advertise for staff, doesn't the advert mention
either a pay band or which grade-level bracket it falls into where
there's some common career pay structure, (in nursing, etc)
 
Like this
https://www.nursingtimesjobs.com/job/staff-nurses-band-5-0
 
Staff Nurses
 
Band 5
 
£24,214 - £30,112 per annum
 
Janet UK
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jun 17 10:37PM -0400

On 6/17/2020 9:21 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> supplied rice to the armed forces in World War II, chose the name Uncle
>> Ben's as a means to expand his marketing efforts to the general public.
 
> That's fine, if the idea of your mom being forced to work for slave wages cleaning up other people's houses and raising other people's kids appeals to you. It's great if you think putting a grinning picture of your mom or aunt on a box of product to sell to generations of people that called her "mammy" because economic and societal conditions forced her to raise them instead of raising you is a good thing.
 
We evolved away from that years ago. I know people that make a very
good wage cleaning houses. You problem if you want to live with old
stereotypes and not move on.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 18 03:03PM +1000

>a familiar face, a nice lady that just wanted you to have a good
>breakfast. IMO, the world would be a better place if everyone had an
>Aunt like her.
 
Australian cheese brand Coon, named after American Edward William Coon
is on the radar of the Permanently Offended:
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Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 18 03:03PM +1000

On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 13:31:18 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net"
>> Ben's as a means to expand his marketing efforts to the general public.
 
>In the South, the title uncle or aunt was applied to either black or white
>elderly folks as a matter of respect.
 
That's proof that Hawaiians can swim.
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jun 17 10:49PM -0700

> > Ben's as a means to expand his marketing efforts to the general public.
 
> In the South, the title uncle or aunt was applied to either black or white
> elderly folks as a matter of respect.
 
It's a little known fact! Due to the paranoia of the Yellow Scare during the Korean war, all traces of the words "uncle" and "aunty" was removed from the movie "Gone with the Wind", and replaced with "mammy", "masta" and "nigger." Because present day America is more accepting of Asians these days, the time might be right to restore GWTW back to its original artistic vision of the antebellum South.
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jun 17 11:03PM -0700

On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 4:37:05 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
 
> We evolved away from that years ago. I know people that make a very
> good wage cleaning houses. You problem if you want to live with old
> stereotypes and not move on.
 
It's not really my problem. Yoose folks on the mainland can keep your vestiges of the old South that yoose so desperately cling to. Us guys on this rock have our own problems to tend to. I was just trying to get people to see what it looks like from the other guy's point of view. Oh well, we can't all be Gregory Peck.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b05CMl4hwcc
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 18 04:36PM +1000

On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 23:03:02 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> >>>> will be more racist if they replace her with a white woman.
 
>> >>>> Is Uncle Ben next?
 
>> >>> You better believe it! They want to get rid of Mrs. Butterworth too. I'm thinking that might not be possible since the bottle is the product. I never thought Mrs. B was a black lady anyway. Her name should be your first clue about that matter. I'd be agreeable to changing the name to Mrs. Doubtfire and altering the bottle a
little. In fact, that would be awesome!
>> >> supplied rice to the armed forces in World War II, chose the name Uncle
>> >> Ben's as a means to expand his marketing efforts to the general public.
 
>> > That's fine, if the idea of your mom being forced to work for slave wages cleaning up other people's houses and raising other people's kids appeals to you. It's great if you think putting a grinning picture of your mom or aunt on a box of product to sell to generations of people that called her "mammy" because economic and
societal conditions forced her to raise them instead of raising you is a good thing.
>> stereotypes and not move on.
 
>It's not really my problem. Yoose folks on the mainland can keep your vestiges of the old South that yoose so desperately cling to. Us guys on this rock have our own problems to tend to. I was just trying to get people to see what it looks like from the other guy's point of view. Oh well, we can't all be Gregory Peck.
 
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b05CMl4hwcc
 
A mouse and an elephant are crossing a bridge. The mouse says to the
elephant: "We're making the whole bridge shake."
 
That's dsi1's rock versus the mainland.
"Julie Bove" <juliebove@frontier.com>: Jun 18 02:23AM -0700

"Ed Pawlowski" <esp@snet.xxx> wrote in message
news:svrGG.12803$DO2.5548@fx45.iad...
 
> Some have considered the familiar figure racists but to me, she was just a
> familiar face, a nice lady that just wanted you to have a good breakfast.
> IMO, the world would be a better place if everyone had an Aunt like her.
 
Not only that, SHE founded that brand name, herself. She was the first black
millionaire in this country, Sad.
"Julie Bove" <juliebove@frontier.com>: Jun 18 02:24AM -0700

"Ed Pawlowski" <esp@snet.xxx> wrote in message
news:5ssGG.21113$PN2.20682@fx48.iad...
 
> I see commercials all the time that have token minorities in them. It
> will be more racist if they replace her with a white woman.
 
> Is Uncle Ben next?
 
Yep. I heard that's going too.
ahat1992@gmail.com: Jun 17 11:01PM -0700

بتاريخ الخميس، 16 يناير، 1992 10:18:31 م UTC+3، كتب Irene Dale:
> I buy already cut up garlic in jars.
> When a recipe calls for a clove of garlic
> how much of this stuff do I add?
 
ID> I've already bought pieces of garlic in jars.
ID> when the recipe calls for a clove of garlic
Id> How many of these things do I add?
 
Between half a teaspoon and a teaspoon. Those things you buy contain flaxseed oil or
Some nonsense is unpleasant (IMHO), so you want to go a little
More volume.But if you previously bought crushed garlic, you may not
He really likes garlic, so he may have to use something less.

Personally, we keep some heads around the house, self-cleaning (classification
Squeeze the garlic and use fresh minced garlic for many things. Why alone
This morning I made waffles and
 
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Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 18 03:03PM +1000


>> I just put that in there to see if anybody was paying attention.
 
>Yeah, but we got people here from either side of the ponds and they
>wouldn't know that ;-)
 
I'm from 2 other sides of the pond and even I know that Hawaiian
cuisine is as unknown as Dutch or Australian cuisine.
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