Monday, July 13, 2020

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 7 topics

Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Jul 13 03:33PM -0700

On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 1:51:15 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
 
> >"Gotta have 'em in Texas.... everyone's a millionaire"
 
> >Go ahead, foreign haters - you're up!
 
> Another cheese swamp. Americans and cheese...
 
This American loves cheese. This evening it was grated Asiago on the spaghetti with tomato sauce. The sauce was 1 jar Classico four cheese https://www.walmart.com/ip/Classico-Four-Cheese-Pasta-Sauce-24-oz-Jar/10307634 about a dozen cherry tomatoes off my plants, pureed in the blender, and a generous glug of olive oil.
 
--Bryan
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Jul 13 04:04PM -0700

On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 5:29:54 PM UTC-5, Pamela wrote:
 
> The strange thing is many popular American cheeses, such as Monterey Jack,
> are largely tasteless and serve to contribute mainly fat and gumminess to
> a dish rather than flavour.
 
I seldom put cheese on a sandwich.
 
> Why start with a cut of beef so fat-free that it needs to be served with
> cheese?
 
Well, pastrami is what it is. I'd never eat a Reuben because I detest both rye bread and sauerkraut. My sandwiches for the past 2 weeks have been mortadella with pistachios on Italian bread. It has plenty of fat. The local salumeria has had it half price two weeks in a row. No cheese. Just a little Dijon type mustard. https://www.volpifoods.com/products/classics/mortadella-with-pistachio/
 
--Bryan
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jul 13 07:10PM -0400

On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:04:52 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons
>> cheese?
 
>Well, pastrami is what it is. I'd never eat a Reuben because I detest both rye bread and sauerkraut. My sandwiches for the past 2 weeks have been mortadella with pistachios on Italian bread. It has plenty of fat. The local salumeria has had it half price two weeks in a row. No cheese. Just a little Dijon type mustard. https://www.volpifoods.com/products/classics/mortadella-with-pistachio/
 
>--Bryan
 
Boars Head Mortadella with pistachios is one of my favorites, makes a
wonderful hero sandwich.
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Jul 13 04:13PM -0700

On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 5:01:22 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
 
> My everyday water glass (plastic) holds 32 ounces to the rim.
> I don't consider that to be 2 buckets full of water.
 
> At least in the USA, a bucket normally indicates a gallon.
 
I drink icewater, beer, and cheap sangria over ice, out of a glass intended to be a flower vase. It's probably about 32oz.
 
--Bryan
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Jul 13 04:25PM -0700

On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 5:26:24 AM UTC-5, Pamela wrote:
 
> Gruyere would make a good choice, assuming you like that sort of flavour. I
> was referring to extremely bland cheeses like Jack which add no taste but
> only texture and fattiness.
 
I disagree that what you call "bland cheeses" have no flavor. Butterfat has flavor. Cow butterfat has a very subtle, but rich flavor. Sheep butterfat has a more pronounced flavor, and goat butterfat has a strong flavor, even in an unripened cheese.
 
--Bryan
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Jul 13 04:33PM -0700

On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 5:48:18 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> My favorite on salad eaten with spaghetti or lasagna.
> On the same plate too. That dressing is good with
> the red sauce.
 
I can't recall ever having food nightmares, but if I did, jarred mayo mixed with ketchup might be a featured horror.
 
--Bryan
"cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net>: Jul 13 06:49PM -0500

heyjoe wrote:
 
 
> Oops. Both of those are out of my price range. I knew the "good"
> supermarket stuff was expensive but the real thing is more than I'd
> spend on top shelf bourbon.
 
If it helps, what I have works from me. Star brand, says Modena Italy
and while I do not recall the price, it was probably more like 10$ or
less at the grocery.
 
It lasts a very long time in the cabinet and here, is used more for
bread dipping with olive oil, black pepper, and may be parm/romano.
Sometimes in a salad dressing but not that often.
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jul 13 04:11PM -0700

4+# of beans, 4 large onions, 1.5 heads of garlic, cooked in EVOO.
 
When ther beans are done, drain, refill with clean H2O, add 1/4 cup brown sugar, 5 bouillon cubes, 1/4cup+ of sweet paprika, less cayenne, molasses, bay leaves, 16oz can of tomato paste, stir and cook! Freeze to keep good!
 
John Kuthe...
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jul 13 07:22PM -0400

On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:11:44 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
 
>4+# of beans, 4 large onions, 1.5 heads of garlic, cooked in EVOO.
 
>When ther beans are done, drain, refill with clean H2O, add 1/4 cup brown sugar, 5 bouillon cubes, 1/4cup+ of sweet paprika, less cayenne, molasses, bay leaves, 16oz can of tomato paste, stir and cook! Freeze to keep good!
 
>John Kuthe...
 
Would have been far better to use Goya canned beans... and cost less
too.
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jul 13 04:30PM -0700

On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 6:22:44 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
 
> >John Kuthe...
 
> Would have been far better to use Goya canned beans... and cost less
> too.
 
I buy my dried beans from an Indian food store in STL!
 
5" bags of black, chick peas, red kidney and black-eyed peas.
 
John Kuthe...
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jul 13 07:34PM -0400

On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:30:15 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
 
>I buy my dried beans from an Indian food store in STL!
 
>5" bags of black, chick peas, red kidney and black-eyed peas.
 
>John Kuthe...
 
Dried beans are a PIA.
Alex <Xela777@gmail.com>: Jul 13 06:59PM -0400

Gary wrote:
 
> You need to hire "Old World Very Expensive" painters too.
 
> No need to have taped those window areas. If you can't paint
> neatly next to the glass, you shouldn't be doing the painting.
 
Is TSP the best for preparing surfaces like he has?
Alex <Xela777@gmail.com>: Jul 13 07:02PM -0400

Sheldon Martin wrote:
>>> neatly next to the glass, you shouldn't be doing the painting.
> That's what single edge razor blades are for... a lot less effort/time
> to scrape a few runs/holidays than to tape.
 
I prefer that method.  Even the best painters tape can't give you a
perfectly clean line.  Radii are even trickier to tape off.  I do the
best I can and clean up with a razor.
Alex <Xela777@gmail.com>: Jul 13 07:07PM -0400

John Kuthe wrote:
> Yeah, he began hating me when I outed him here for having Narcissistic Personality Disorder probably because it's dead on.
 
> I have Bipolar Disorder and I thank Big Pharma for making Seroquel cheap enough to afford!
 
> John Kuthe...
 
A mental patient diagnosing another person's mental state.  Go figure.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jul 13 07:18PM -0400


>I prefer that method.  Even the best painters tape can't give you a
>perfectly clean line.  Radii are even trickier to tape off.  I do the
>best I can and clean up with a razor.
 
Glass is very easy to clean up paint with a razor... auto glass
installers clean up with a razor. It's actually silly to tape glass.
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jul 13 04:21PM -0700

On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 6:07:53 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote:
 
> > I have Bipolar Disorder and I thank Big Pharma for making Seroquel cheap enough to afford!
 
> > John Kuthe...
 
> A mental patient diagnosing another person's mental state.  Go figure.
 
PEOPLE with Mental Illness are still PEOPLE! Sometimes smarter than YOU Alex!
 
Ever hear the one about the traveling salesman who got a flat right next to the asylum? As he was out to change his tire he knocked the hubcap over with all his lugnuts in it which all went down the sewer. "OMG what am I gonna do?" he asked. "Um excuse me?" a voice was heard from the asylum. "Why don't you take one lug nut off the other three wheels and that might hold the wheel on until you can get it fixed"
 
OMG the salesman said! That was brilliant! Why are you in that asylum, you should be out here helping people!
 
I'm crazy, not stupid!
 
;-)
 
John Kuthe...
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jul 13 07:30PM -0400

On 2020-07-13 7:21 p.m., John Kuthe wrote:
>> figure.
 
> PEOPLE with Mental Illness are still PEOPLE! Sometimes smarter than
> YOU Alex!
 
Not really. It just that the delusions, symptoms of their illness, make
them think they are much smarter than they are.
Alex <Xela777@gmail.com>: Jul 13 07:27PM -0400

John Kuthe wrote:
> https://i.postimg.cc/qv268d8V/First-coat-Lacey-Lilac.jpg
 
> Sweat Equity?
 
> John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist, Suburban Renewalist and Vegetarian
 
Might have been easier to do the ceiling first.
"cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net>: Jul 13 05:55PM -0500

> sorry ass cooks people are who don't make their own.)
 
> I do keep 'Better Than Bouillon' in the 'frig and use it frequently
> but the cubes are just mini salt blocks to me.
 
It's true the mini-cubes are just salt bombs. Making your own broth is
easy but having lost (old age) the 2 dogs, we found out Prince actually
(oddly for a dog) is not that fond of it. We find older dogs often
have a really good sense of 'what works for them' so I suspect he may
either have a mild chicken/poultry allergy or an issue with any fatty
foods? Hard to tell.
 
Also making your own means you have to eat a fair amount of poultry so
you can save the bones (and can't have been fried). For us, through
the years, we had families save poultry carcasses in the freezer for us
(or bring them over and we'd freeze). That made up the gap we needed
but may not be workable for others.
 
I agree the 'BTB' label is a good one. Knorrs also makes a decent
powder version. Since I use more probably than most, I get it in bulk.
"cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net>: Jul 13 06:02PM -0500

Gary wrote:
 
 
> I mean...everyone here likes to brag about their cooking.
> Why use inferior ingredients?
> Note: homemade broth is even cheaper
 
This is true and with a crockpot and leftover bones from baked poultry,
it's production cost in the home is about 25cents for 2.5 gallons or so
and all energy used to cook it. Stovetop would be about 2$ I think.
"cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net>: Jul 13 06:16PM -0500

> all made by one or two processing plants. Not a single one is
> offensive nor do they have an 'off' taste.
 
> Gary gets only one guess which one I make a point of buying.
 
LOL, I'm going to Kroger maybe! I'd stock up at sales time. For me,
the extra trip would have me pay the higher price since the route I use
to/from work doesn't naturally put me real near anything but Food Lion,
Aldis, Lidl, and Harris Teeter. Krogers is across a street with an
awkward turn around reequired (no light, may sit 10 minutes to make the
u-turn required) and I might add, LOTS of issues with the parking and
accidents including getting run over in the parking lot to get into/out
of the store.
 
I normally add 'cost of production' to my posts because locally I try
to help folks on limited funds reduce bills and same post gets copied
back and forth from here to Yahoo or NextDoor.
"cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net>: Jul 13 06:24PM -0500

> amount of onions, garlic, and chili powder is optional as well. But
> the chili powder really adds something to it without it turning into
> a blow your head off dish.
 
Works for me!
 
I have a pot of it with a mix of Butterbeans (large limas), Black Eyed
Peas, and Navy beans (all dried). Big meaty hambone and Knorrs chicken
powder plus onion and spices.
Alex <Xela777@gmail.com>: Jul 13 07:17PM -0400

John Kuthe wrote:
> This is thirsty old wood!
 
> https://i.postimg.cc/XJJ0hXwM/Three-coats.jpg
 
> John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist, Suburban Renewalist and Vegetarian
 
I would replace those hinges.  Cheap and easy.  It will look great!
"cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net>: Jul 13 05:17PM -0500

songbird wrote:
 
> > rainforests for this one.
 
> yes, yes they do.
 
> songbird :(
 
Only because of crop rotation and to add nitrogen.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 14 09:03AM +1000


>> yes, yes they do.
 
>> songbird :(
 
>Only because of crop rotation and to add nitrogen.
 
lol
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