Friday, July 17, 2020

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 7 topics

Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 17 01:01PM +1000


>In theory I should also have an intolerance to oats, but it doesn't
>seem to affect me. So oats are now also a 'super food'? I think the
>term is used far too liberally.
 
The term is used for all kinds of trendy ingredients, but the real
superfoods are old school foods like oats and (red) cabbage. I guess
there's no money in making a hype around those.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jul 16 08:29PM -0700

On Thursday, July 16, 2020 at 9:47:31 PM UTC-5, Jeßus wrote:
 
> In theory I should also have an intolerance to oats, but it doesn't
> seem to affect me. So oats are now also a 'super food'? I think the
> term is used far too liberally.
 
Oats have the ability to lower cholesterol and decrease sugar spikes plus
making you feel full longer.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jul 17 06:15AM -0400

> > term is used far too liberally.
 
> Oats have the ability to lower cholesterol and decrease sugar spikes plus
> making you feel full longer.
 
I wonder how healthy a bowl of oatmeal is by the time you add
the raisins, brown sugar and butter? ;)
 
Not talking about you Joan, just Cindy and I.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 17 08:30PM +1000


>I wonder how healthy a bowl of oatmeal is by the time you add
>the raisins, brown sugar and butter? ;)
 
>Not talking about you Joan, just Cindy and I.
 
Not that healthy probably, but oats in themselves are.
jay <jay@mail.com>: Jul 17 06:12AM -0600

On 7/16/20 8:47 PM, Je�us wrote:
 
>> Oats are a superfood.
 
> So oats are now also a 'super food'? I think the
> term is used far too liberally.
 
Has to be true, Bruce said so.
Most never eat just the oats.
 
Mares eat oats and does eat oats and little Bruces eat ivy.
Janet <nobody@home.org>: Jul 17 10:09AM +0100

John, the bargeboard above the top window is in a terrible rotten
state. Before retiling the roof, you should have had that wood
replaced, or cleaned off and repainted.
 
It still needs to be done, but now someone will have to walk on the
new tiles and will probably drip paint on them too.
 
Janet UK
Janet <nobody@home.org>: Jul 17 10:29AM +0100

In article <f83989ff-e27c-40da-80f0-0d496300b9b0o@googlegroups.com>,
johnkuthern@gmail.com says...
> > large house.
 
> Me too, but I know quality work when I see it. No not large, only 1500 sqft and now it will have a renewed red clay tile roof, which is a 100 year roof. House was completed in 1930, so just shy of 100 years on the old one.
 
> John Kuthe...
 
No, John. The original tiles you've allowed them to refit, are at the
end of their 100 year life, that's why so many of them became
weatherworn and absorbent, broke or leaked.
 
For what they charged you the roof company should have fitted a
whole roof of new tiles throughout. THEN you'd have a hundred-year tiled
roof.
 
What you've got now is a roof where the original old tiles will
continue to deteriorate and fail, and need regular attention, repairs
and replacements for the rest of your life.
 
The roofing company must be laughing all the way to the bank.
 
Janet UK
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 17 07:31PM +1000

>continue to deteriorate and fail, and need regular attention, repairs
>and replacements for the rest of your life.
 
> The roofing company must be laughing all the way to the bank.
 
Do you also have advice for people who want to start a B&B?
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jul 17 02:49AM -0700

On Thursday, July 16, 2020 at 10:43:00 PM UTC-4, Jeßus wrote:
> willing to spend what is arguably more than the house itself is worth
> - what would other Americans do if faced with such a sitation? I would
> assume they'd go for an iron or similar material?
 
Most Americans would replace that tile with asphalt shingles.
ISTR that's the most common residential roofing material in the
U.S. And the cheapest. Instead of $113,000, that job might cost
$5000 (including getting rid of the tiles).
 
Cindy Hamilton
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jul 17 06:15AM -0400

John Kuthe wrote:
 
> https://i.postimg.cc/dt8GV5RT/Tiles-back-on-7-16-2020-1.jpg
 
> Courtesy of Old World Roofing, doing in the Right Way! :-)
 
Time to tell us a story, John.
 
In addition to restoring your roof, looks like they are
restoring your dormers too. I do think it's a good idea
right while they're up there.
They've taken off the shingles and put new felt paper
on the sides. They've also scraped
off all the peeling paint on the white trim up there.
 
Rather than repaint that top trim, vinyl siding would
be smart to use. That way, nobody will ever need to
go up on your roof again. Looks like your windows there
have already been replaced with vinyl or aluminum
years ago.
 
Is this included in the contract price or does that
come under the "additional work" part?
Janet <nobody@home.org>: Jul 17 11:41AM +0100

In article <vn8QG.95840$%p.38720@fx33.iad>, esp@snet.xxx says...
> > move.
 
> Many things we buy are not worth the actual price yet we buy an
> expensive dinner or bottle of wine.
 
That's fine for those who can afford it. Not for someone who
emptied their bank account for one meal, leaving nothing to buy food
with for the next month.
 
Janet UK
Janet <nobody@home.org>: Jul 17 11:51AM +0100

In article <reqe3f$gnc$1@dont-email.me>, jay@mail.com says...
> > large house.
 
> Yes it's a 100K+ courtesy .. a moving fee. Moving the tile out of the
> way refelting and moving it back. They will use very few new tiles.
 
They've reused 100 year old clay tiles. 100 years is the lifespan of
a clay tile. John has already seen many of those 100 yr old clay tiles
weather, fracture, become brittle, leak; but he's dim enough to believe
the worn out tiles are now newborn and will last another 100 years.
 
Thats a bit like a heart surgeon implanting a 90 year patient
"Good news; the donor heart is 90 years old so it's good for
another 90 years".
 
Janet UK
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jul 17 06:58AM -0400

Janet wrote:
> replaced, or cleaned off and repainted.
 
> It still needs to be done, but now someone will have to walk on the
> new tiles and will probably drip paint on them too.
 
I just wrote him about that, Janet. I'm assuming that's
part of the job...or extra's that they told him about.
 
Interesting...Never heard that called "bargeboard" before.
Must be a UK term. In the usa, the top board is usually
referred to as the "facia" the entire top would be called
the "cornice"
 
I've just always referred to it all as the top trim
around the dormer.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jul 17 07:01AM -0400

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> ISTR that's the most common residential roofing material in the
> U.S. And the cheapest. Instead of $113,000, that job might cost
> $5000 (including getting rid of the tiles).
 
Not for $5000. Maybe for 15 or 20. Those tiles could be saved
for other jobs that Old World does, so maybe a cost reduction
to let them have them.
 
They probably specialize in restoring historic house roofs,
not a plain old house like John has.
 
My father had an old giant Black Walnut tree removed
from his yard once. They wanted several thousand dollars
to cut it down and remove the wood.
 
Dad knew the value of Black Walnut wood though. He bartered
with them and ended up getting the tree and wood removed,
and they got to keep the wood.
 
An equal trade. No money exchanged.
 
Like you, I think I would have opted for the asphalt shingles.
They do come in a nice dark red too. Maybe only 20 year
life but a big savings now and in the long term.
 
And not new copper gutters either. Those are also only
for historic houses.
jay <jay@mail.com>: Jul 17 06:11AM -0600

On 7/17/20 5:01 AM, Gary wrote:
>> U.S. And the cheapest. Instead of $113,000, that job might cost
>> $5000 (including getting rid of the tiles).
 
> Not for $5000. Maybe for 15 or 20.
 
Yes. 5K would be a dog house with bottom of the line 3 tab shingle.
Recently spent 18k on a not so large one and most all of y'all chipped
in. Roofing contractors pay an exorbitant amount for insurance just like
tree trimmers.
jay <jay@mail.com>: Jul 17 06:12AM -0600

On 7/16/20 8:52 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
 
> The owner wants it and is willing to pay for the satisfaction of having it.
 
> Been to an art museum?  I've seen paintings worth a million bucks and
> I'd pay you $10 to take out of my house.
 
Kuthe doesn't have expensive dinner or wine money. He is gilding a pig
and can't afford it. When the property goes to tax lien foreclosure
someone will get a nice roof though. People who buy expensive art have
the wherewithal to do so. There is zero wherewithal in this case.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jul 17 07:26AM -0400

cshenk wrote:
> Gary, I was talking population, not land mass.
 
Yes but, increase the land mass and naturally you get
a larger population.
 
Notable exception:
 
Alaska
663,268 square miles
2010 population of 710,231
 
Virginia Beach
497 square miles total
2010 population of 460,000
 
More than half of all in Alaska
Sounds pretty darn crowded here to me.
 
We must also be the most waterborn city too
249 square miles is land and 248 square miles water.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jul 17 06:17AM -0400

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> Once in bed, "Alexa, turn off bedroom" and off it goes.
 
> My living room light is the same setup but set to go on and off at a set
> time, though I can do it by voice too if I want.
 
Interesting story, Ed. Alexa would be perfect for someone
with no arms.
 
Would be fun to experiment with that.
Try, "Alexa, what are you wearing?"
 
If they offer a "no censor" option, answer might be interesting.
Lucretia Borgia <lucretiaborgia@fl.it>: Jul 17 07:39AM -0300

>time, though I can do it by voice too if I want.
 
>https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B010OYASRG?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_dt_b_product_details
 
>Yeah, so Jeff Bezos knows what time I go to bed.
 
I have Alexa too and one day realised she is simply my intelligent
radio :) I like to listen to the radio at night and simply tell her
to play 'classic fm' or DW Germany, or Australian BC etc. and with a
slight delay she finds them all.
F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>: Jul 17 08:11PM +1000

On 14/7/20 10:47 am, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>> bit then almost same weight of sugar as fruit
>>     cheated a bit and used jam setting sugar
 
> What does that taste like?  Are you happy with your results?
Yes It is close to melon and lemon jam
F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>: Jul 17 08:15PM +1000

>> love them when mixed with a plain greek or almond or soy yogurt.
 
> A lemon jam sounds really good though but I can see why you would need
> so much sugar..
 
In the old days the standard with out recipes was same weight fruit and
sugar, gradually people experimented with less til it ceased to work.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jul 17 02:37AM -0700

On Thursday, July 16, 2020 at 6:54:45 PM UTC-4, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> wide motorized, commercial sough sheeter with pasta cutter, just in case
> I run out.
 
> I don't see how they are going to get a true picture with that survey.
 
Since I bought a box of pasta during the pandemic, I got to answer
all of the questions. They wanted to know things like:
 
Were there shortages
How did you deal with the shortages (buy elsewhere, buy a different brand)
Do you care if your pasta is made in the U.S.
Do you care if your pasta is, um, sustainable
 
Cindy Hamilton
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jul 17 02:38AM -0700

On Thursday, July 16, 2020 at 7:26:55 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> > concerned about pasta for that matter.
 
> Sorry, but I was too much of a cynic to fall for a postgraduate study
> based on an internet poll originating from foodbanter.
 
Why "fall for" ? It was no different from taking a quiz in
Cosmopolitan. Ok, bad analogy. I haven't read Cosmo in
40 years, and I don't imagine you've ever read it.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Jul 16 05:30PM -0700

On Thursday, July 16, 2020 at 5:10:15 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> I grow the things I want to grow: garlic and herbs. I used to
> grow tomatoes but gave up because they reliably died of blossom-end
> rot.
 
You need lime. It doesn't take much at all A bag of it would last you the rest of your life. Just top dress a little every year. I never buy tomato plants anymore I sometimes buy a packet or two of seeds from the local community garden resource place for 25 cents a packet, but the tomatoes that really produce are the volunteers. All you have to do is water the area where the tomatoes were the year before. For salads, cherry tomatoes are great, and today is the point that I will have as many cherry tomatoes as my family would wish to eat until the first frost. To celebrate that, I bought a large head of iceberg.
 
Tomorrow we'll be having green salads, and it's a Jack Sprat thing. My son dislikes the inner parts of an iceberg head, and while he'd prefer leaf lettuce, he's OK with the outer leaves, and I love the crunchy inner portions. It gets better. We'll have baked russets, par cooked in the microwave and finished in the oven, but I also bought some ungraded ribeyes today that if they'd been graded, would have been on the better side of Choice for marbling. They'll be grilled over a hot fire, and I mean fire, not just charcoal that flares up with dripping fat, but fire from half burned seasoned hickory.
 
I don't know what others will add to their lettuce/tomato salads, but mine will be dressed with only some Key lime juice (we have several Key limes that won't be good much longer) and a little pre-grated domestic Asiago.
 
I'm a spiteful person, and I'm sending out hate toward every person who is not practicing proper Covid-19 hygiene, but I'm also feeling love for all of you who are acting like adults, and doing what you can to prevent unnecessary transmission of the virus. I wear a face covering all day at work, and anytime I am in a building not my home. I'm not a hero for enduring the minor discomfort of the mask. I'm just being a grownup. Most other grownups are acting like grownups, and the few who are not deserve to die.
 
--Bryan
 
--Bryan
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jul 17 02:34AM -0700

On Thursday, July 16, 2020 at 8:30:26 PM UTC-4, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> > grow tomatoes but gave up because they reliably died of blossom-end
> > rot.
 
> You need lime. It doesn't take much at all A bag of it would last you the rest of your life. Just top dress a little every year.
 
I don't think that would help our somewhat alkaline soil.
 
Now I depend on the kindness of friends and the farm stand.
 
Cindy Hamilton
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