Tuesday, July 28, 2020

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 7 topics

Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 29 04:36AM +1000


> If you've never seen a fat/obese vegetarian that's because you
>haven't been to India.
 
Less than 30% of Indians are vegetarians.
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jul 28 11:47AM -0700

On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 4:24:29 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> everything we need. Problem is, it has to be harnessed and stored, but
> even that is making progress.
 
> Some of my electricity is coming from solar.
 
In the end, all of our power comes from the nearest star, our sun. Power storage i.e., batteries will be the most important thing in the near future. My guess is that this century will be known as the age of power generation and storage.
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jul 28 11:59AM -0700

On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 12:02:50 PM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
 
> I am NOT having any bodywork done as the mechanical repair will cost me about $4000. So now INF-MPG will wear the scar inflicted by a probably stolen White car! And I know it was a white car as it's a very busy intersection at 5PM and other drivers stopped got out to get pieces of the White car out of the road!
 
> Fucking car thieves! :-(
 
> John Kuthe, ClimAte Anarchist, Suburban Renewalist and Vegetarian
 
My son's girlfriend got rid of her Leaf and bought a BMW convertible. That's a good thing - they were spending too much time charging that thing up and her new car is certainly a nice ride. Saving the planet will have to wait a few more years but she should get credit for the time she has already spent.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 29 04:33AM +1000

>everything we need. Problem is, it has to be harnessed and stored, but
>even that is making progress.
 
>Some of my electricity is coming from solar.
 
We'll get there. Question is how much irreversible damage we'll do to
the planet before we get there.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 29 05:09AM +1000

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 11:47:34 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> even that is making progress.
 
>> Some of my electricity is coming from solar.
 
>In the end, all of our power comes from the nearest star, our sun. Power storage i.e., batteries will be the most important thing in the near future. My guess is that this century will be known as the age of power generation and storage.
 
It's a bit early to say. Maybe the dinosaurs come back this century.
Or Martians land.
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jul 28 03:10PM -0400

On 7/28/2020 2:36 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> aged out, is recyclable.
 
> You may see a problem with batteries, but electric is still the way of
> the future.
 
People thought the automobile was just a fad too. but it seems to be
sticking around. Original electrics were crude but are improving.
There are some cobalt free batteries in the works that will put an end
to the child labor portion of it.
 
It does not completely fit my needs yet but the one Chevy Bolt I drove
was impressive performance. Range is adequate for most people's daily
commute, not so good for longer trips. Price is about $10,000 more than
a gas car too, but that will also change with time.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 29 05:10AM +1000

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 11:59:09 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
 
>> Fucking car thieves! :-(
 
>> John Kuthe, ClimAte Anarchist, Suburban Renewalist and Vegetarian
 
>My son's girlfriend got rid of her Leaf and bought a BMW convertible. That's a good thing - they were spending too much time charging that thing up and her new car is certainly a nice ride. Saving the planet will have to wait a few more years but she should get credit for the time she has already spent.
 
No she relapsed. That's frowned upon.
Lucretia Borgia <lucretiaborgia@fl.it>: Jul 28 04:11PM -0300

>>aged out, is recyclable.
 
>You may see a problem with batteries, but electric is still the way of
>the future.
 
Only after they find a solution for the old batteries.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 29 04:36AM +1000

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 09:49:55 -0300, Lucretia Borgia
>downsides as well. I drive a little Mazda II which at this point is
>likely more environmentally friendly. Uses very little gas and when
>aged out, is recyclable.
 
You may see a problem with batteries, but electric is still the way of
the future.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Jul 28 02:22PM -0400

I just cooked 2 cups of yellow grits and here they are:
 
https://i.postimg.cc/KvC4vPS9/yellow-grits.jpg
 
The grits I cook don't look or taste like "wallpaper paste". They don't
taste like the instant grits my dad used to heat in the microwave,
that's for sure. And no, Sheldon, grits are not anything like rice.
 
This is more like very moist polenta. It tastes like corn, which is as
it should be. Cooked with a little salt in the water, of course. I add
butter and I sprinkled a little cayenne pepper on top this time to add a
little heat. These are not what the majority of people tend to think of
as typical grits, that's for sure. :)
 
Jill
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jul 28 12:10PM -0700

On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 1:22:32 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
> little heat. These are not what the majority of people tend to think of
> as typical grits, that's for sure. :)
 
> Jill
 
Those do look good and I'm going to put them on my grocery list and check
if Kroger stocks that brand. They stock every variation of 'flour' so I'll
be disappointed if they don't stock this brand of grits.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 29 04:57AM +1000

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 09:04:35 -0400, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
wrote:
 
>repainting the pink and purple paint (he can't decide if it's "Shit
>Brown" or "Nice Brown") before he can get his "occupancy permit"
>renewed.
 
Since when can you be forced to paint your house? Is this "code"
again?
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jul 28 12:09PM -0700

On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 2:57:43 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> >renewed.
 
> Since when can you be forced to paint your house? Is this "code"
> again?
 
Not "code" as such. "Code" is mainly about safety and health. There's
a National Electrical Code (NEC), a plumbing code, building codes for
structural matters, etc. Not every place requires building to code, but
most of those are extremely rural. Or Texas. ;)
 
Some cities define historical districts where the colors used must be
historically accurate. I think John lives in one of these. They're
easy enough to avoid if you know in advance that your prospective
house is in such a district. A prospective homeowner must investigate
for himself whether the house is located in a historical district.
 
John is under additional restrictions because he operates a rooming house.
The government doesn't much care if I endanger my life by having
deteriorated concrete walkways, but they won't let John endanger his
tenants in that way.
 
Millions of Americans voluntarily buy houses in neighborhoods that are
controlled by "Homeowners' Assocations" (HOAs). The HOA can specify
colors that residents are allowed to paint their houses, and they
can apply a myriad of other restrictions, such as Christmas lights,
flags, garden structures, storage of unused vehicles, ad infinitum.
Again, relatively easy to avoid if you are forewarned.
 
John's paint difficulties are largely self-inflicted.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 29 04:38AM +1000

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 11:34:39 -0500, Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>
wrote:
 
>> Fresh picked cucumber.
 
>Sounds great... With 1/4lb of grilled ground beef, cheese, onions,
>and special sauce.
 
Ah, there's the dead mammal.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jul 28 11:50AM -0700

On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 2:38:07 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
 
> >It's an American thing. I wouldn't expect you to know about it.
 
> >For one thing, your goat barn has to have a refrigerator ;)
 
> Damn, we hang our food in the creek for cooling.
 
Seriously, refrigerator pickles are made (typically) by pouring a
hot, flavored, salted, vinegar solution over vegetables (or fruit)--
usually right into a canning jar full of the produce. They are not
water-bath processed, but after a short marination period in the
refrigerator are ready to eat. They don't last a long time because
they're not preserved, as such. Most people make only enough at one
time for themselves and their friends to enjoy before they go bad.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 29 05:07AM +1000

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 11:50:02 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>refrigerator are ready to eat. They don't last a long time because
>they're not preserved, as such. Most people make only enough at one
>time for themselves and their friends to enjoy before they go bad.
 
Thanks. I hadn't heard of that quick way of doing it. I mainly know
pickles via Indonesia:
<https://static.reto.media/inprobanl/productfoto-2018/cached/f2e3f40a53ee2616_inproba-atjar-tjampoer-530-g-nw-recept.png>
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 29 04:31AM +1000

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 13:09:16 -0400, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
wrote:
 
>> spiteful haranging.
 
>You mean like the way you disparage people for not posting food pics
>then haranging them when they do? Pot, Kettle, Black.
 
Bingo.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 29 04:40AM +1000

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 13:19:23 +0100, Pamela <pamela.poster@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
>> dry.
 
>My friends in Perth say it get terribly hot. Where are you? Some parts of
>the Eastern Ozzie states must get hot too.
 
I'm on the east side. Summers are generally in the 30s and humid. It
gets hotter up north.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 29 04:41AM +1000

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 18:36:31 +0100, "Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:
 
>everything. Us and the cats. Is that like your heat pump? Gas central
>heat sounds good.
 
> We have gas central heating now, in Scotland:)
 
Central heating is the best, I think.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jul 28 11:44AM -0700

On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 2:48:11 AM UTC-5, S Viemeister wrote:
> we can still cook, and heat water (we have a very large kettle). We have
> two canisters, with an automatic switchover. A red flag pops up on the
> empty one, giving us plenty of time to arrange for replacing it.
 
These bottles of gas that you and Bruce speak of have me a bit confused.
Here, if you don't have natural gas delivered to you by underground pipes
then your option is propane. Sheldon has that but they are quite large
above-ground tanks only needing to be refilled once or twice per year.
 
Can y'all post a picture of what you are speaking of so I can grasp
this a bit better, please?
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jul 28 11:55AM -0700

On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 10:54:10 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> house but I rarely use it. We have lots of trees around the house that
> keep it shaded and it rarely becomes unbearably hot, I did have it on
> for three days last week, and that could be close to a record for a summer.
 
Although my neighborhood has many old, old trees my house is not shaded
by any except the crappy hackberry across the alley in the neighbors'
yard on the western side of the house. But presently it is 94°F here
and no clouds; the house would be unbearable without a/c even though it
is well insulated. Before Gary rushes in and tells me to fling open my
windows it would be for naught as there is no breeze. And if there were
it would feel like all I had done is open the oven door after baking.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 29 05:01AM +1000

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 11:44:16 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net"
>above-ground tanks only needing to be refilled once or twice per year.
 
>Can y'all post a picture of what you are speaking of so I can grasp
>this a bit better, please?
 
Something like in the first two rows:
<https://www.bunnings.com.au/our-range/outdoor-living/barbecue/accessories/gas-bottles>
"Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>: Jul 28 08:01PM +0100

"Bruce" wrote in message news:l9s0iflqc2mkaaa0hg1dpffk7vedqkmskc@4ax.com...
 
On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 18:36:31 +0100, "Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:
 
>everything. Us and the cats. Is that like your heat pump? Gas central
>heat sounds good.
 
> We have gas central heating now, in Scotland:)
 
Central heating is the best, I think.
 
===
 
It keeps us warm in winter!
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 29 05:02AM +1000

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 11:55:11 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net"
>is well insulated. Before Gary rushes in and tells me to fling open my
>windows it would be for naught as there is no breeze. And if there were
>it would feel like all I had done is open the oven door after baking.
 
Sounds like my kinda climate.
"Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>: Jul 28 08:04PM +0100

"dsi1" wrote in message
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On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 7:36:37 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> everything. Us and the cats. Is that like your heat pump? Gas central
> heat sounds good.
 
> We have gas central heating now, in Scotland:)
 
A heat pump is exactly like your airco, which consists of a pump,
refrigerant, and evaporator and condenser liquid to air heat exchangers. You
use your airco for cooling, heat pumps will typically be used for heating.
 
Our condo uses heat pumps to heat water. Ideally, our system should be used
for air conditioning and heating water since there is a need for both.
That's not the case and cold air is ducted into the parking lot. When it's
hot you can see dogs and humans standing/sitting next to the vents.
 
====
 
Ooops!!! No! Our heating is not gas .... it's oil!!!! It seems to work
the same as it did when we had gas:)))) Sorry!!!
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