Tuesday, July 28, 2020

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 21 updates in 9 topics

Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 29 05:12AM +1000

>was impressive performance. Range is adequate for most people's daily
>commute, not so good for longer trips. Price is about $10,000 more than
>a gas car too, but that will also change with time.
 
It's strange that people who normally don't bother about child labor
or the environment or anything else (not referring to anybody in
particular), suddenly use it as an argument against electric cars.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 29 05:20AM +1000

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 16:11:01 -0300, Lucretia Borgia
 
>>You may see a problem with batteries, but electric is still the way of
>>the future.
 
>Only after they find a solution for the old batteries.
 
You'll grasp at anything to justify driving your old stinker :)
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jul 28 12:50PM -0700

On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 9:09:58 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
 
> >In the end, all of our power comes from the nearest star, our sun. Power storage i.e., batteries will be the most important thing in the near future. My guess is that this century will be known as the age of power generation and storage.
 
> It's a bit early to say. Maybe the dinosaurs come back this century.
> Or Martians land.
 
Well okay, some of us just need a little more time to recognize what's in front of them.
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jul 28 12:54PM -0700

On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 9:10:40 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
 
> >> John Kuthe, ClimAte Anarchist, Suburban Renewalist and Vegetarian
 
> >My son's girlfriend got rid of her Leaf and bought a BMW convertible. That's a good thing - they were spending too much time charging that thing up and her new car is certainly a nice ride. Saving the planet will have to wait a few more years but she should get credit for the time she has already spent.
 
> No she relapsed. That's frowned upon.
 
For some folks, an electric car is not a practical option. Having one's life ruled by having to strategically map out charger location is no way to live. Charging the car was free but still wasn't worth the hassle. That's just my awesome opinion.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Jul 28 03:52PM -0400


> Those do look good and I'm going to put them on my grocery list and check
> if Kroger stocks that brand. They stock every variation of 'flour' so I'll
> be disappointed if they don't stock this brand of grits.
 
I have to say I never saw Lakeside brand or any other "yellow" grits
when I lived in TN. These beat the heci out of the gluey white grits I
remember as a teenager. No guarantees, mind you, but they might change
your mind about grits. I'd have sprinkled some cheese on top (always a
plus) but I don't have the right cheese on hand right now.
 
Jill
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 29 05:14AM +1000

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 20:01:48 +0100, "Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:
 
 
>Central heating is the best, I think.
 
>===
 
> It keeps us warm in winter!
 
We'd set it to 15C overnight and 20C during the day and not think
about it much for 9 months.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jul 28 12:18PM -0700

On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 3:01:20 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> >this a bit better, please?
 
> Something like in the first two rows:
> <https://www.bunnings.com.au/our-range/outdoor-living/barbecue/accessories/gas-bottles>
 
Ah. That's what we would call a 20-pound tank. It holds about 10 kilos (or
a little less) of liquefied propane?
 
When we bought our house, it had a 500-gallon propane tank:
 
<http://www.missiongas.com/500gallontank.htm>
 
That's more typical for cold-climate heating needs.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 29 05:26AM +1000

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 12:18:01 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> <https://www.bunnings.com.au/our-range/outdoor-living/barbecue/accessories/gas-bottles>
 
>Ah. That's what we would call a 20-pound tank. It holds about 10 kilos (or
>a little less) of liquefied propane?
 
"A 9kg gas bottle is considered the standard size BBQ gas bottle and
is roughly equivalent to a 20 lb propane tank."
 
I think we had one of those with a spare standing by. With a
connection against an outer wall of the house. It worked, but
electricity is easier.
 
>When we bought our house, it had a 500-gallon propane tank:
 
><http://www.missiongas.com/500gallontank.htm>
 
>That's more typical for cold-climate heating needs.
 
I never see anybody with a beast like that. Maybe it's also used for
heating.
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jul 28 03:31PM -0400

On 7/28/2020 3:01 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> this a bit better, please?
 
> Something like in the first two rows:
> <https://www.bunnings.com.au/our-range/outdoor-living/barbecue/accessories/gas-bottles>
 
We had two 100# like this.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Worthington-Pro-Grade-100-lb-Empty-Propane-Cylinder-303953/202034849
Piped together, a truck would come to fill them once a year for
cooking. You can get much larger too if you heat with propane.
"Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>: Jul 28 08:31PM +0100

"Bruce" wrote in message news:b6u0if18pr62ah9prqofjgu35ou031fhej@4ax.com...
 
On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 20:01:48 +0100, "Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:
 
 
>Central heating is the best, I think.
 
>===
 
> It keeps us warm in winter!
 
We'd set it to 15C overnight and 20C during the day and not think
about it much for 9 months.
 
===
 
Yep!
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jul 28 12:46PM -0700

On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 9:04:15 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
 
> ====
 
> Ooops!!! No! Our heating is not gas .... it's oil!!!! It seems to work
> the same as it did when we had gas:)))) Sorry!!!
 
Double oops. I assumed that "airco" was Brit for air conditioning i.e., cooling. Heat pumps can also be used for heating too. Running an electric pump to heat stuff up is more efficient than running current through a wire to heat it up. OTOH, a piece of resistance wire is a lot cheaper than an electric motor, pump, and heat exchangers.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jul 28 12:32PM -0700

On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 10:16:28 PM UTC-5, Leo wrote:
> it? I should have told her that black or white fabric would be fine.
 
> <https://postimg.cc/r05GzPq4>
 
> leo
 
Oh wow, very pretty!!!
 
They sell those KitchenAid mixer covers and they sure must think a lot of
them as they are pricey.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 29 05:17AM +1000

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 12:09:55 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>flags, garden structures, storage of unused vehicles, ad infinitum.
>Again, relatively easy to avoid if you are forewarned.
 
>John's paint difficulties are largely self-inflicted.
 
So he painted his house the wrong colour and the HOA went WHOA? And
now he has to repaint it?
 
But I still don't understand why you can't have tenants in a house
that's being repainted. I never told people to evacuate before I
painted their house.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jul 28 12:27PM -0700

On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 3:17:56 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
 
> >John's paint difficulties are largely self-inflicted.
 
> So he painted his house the wrong colour and the HOA went WHOA? And
> now he has to repaint it?
 
Not the HOA but probably something called the Historic District Commission.
But, essentially, yes.

> But I still don't understand why you can't have tenants in a house
> that's being repainted. I never told people to evacuate before I
> painted their house.
 
That's unclear. I've never heard of that either. Perhaps the inspector
found some health/safety violations but all John cares about is the
pink and purple paint so he's not telling us everything.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 29 05:32AM +1000

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 12:27:35 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> now he has to repaint it?
 
>Not the HOA but probably something called the Historic District Commission.
>But, essentially, yes.
 
I once painted my parents 1930s house light green and blue. Nobody
complained, although these commissions exist in the Netherlands too.

 
>That's unclear. I've never heard of that either. Perhaps the inspector
>found some health/safety violations but all John cares about is the
>pink and purple paint so he's not telling us everything.
 
We might never know, because he's embarrassed to talk about his lack
of tenants for some reason. I was just curious.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jul 28 12:23PM -0700


> Not as much as they downplayed her looks in "The Heiress."
 
> Lenona.
 
Of course, they downplayed her looks in "The Heiress." She was supposed to
look like someone no man would really be interested and a plain Jane. What
made her 'attractive' to fortune-hunter Montgomery Cliff was her money. If
she'd been pretty as a picture in the movie men would have been swarming
about her and she could have had her pick. But then we wouldn't have the
movie as it was presented, would we?
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jul 28 12:26PM -0700

On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 11:13:48 AM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
 
> TCM will probably show
> some of her films in tribute. She had a very long career.
 
> Jill
 
If TCM does air "The Heiress" try to watch it. The transformation is
good.
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Jul 28 02:22PM -0500

Sqwertz's Climactic Brownies
 
A Super Fudgy Browned Butter and Brown Sugar Brownie.
 
You probably have everything you need to make these RIGHT NOW! Why
resist?
 
3 sticks (12 ounces) Salted butter [or unsalted and add 1 ts of
table salt to batter]
8 ounces Milk Chocolate Morsels
13 ounces White Sugar
5 ounces Light Brown Sugar
6 large Eggs (cold)
1.5 TB Vanilla
4.5 ounces All-Purpose Flour
4 ounces Cocoa Powder
 
Heat oven to 350F
 
Make browned butter: In a 2qt or larger saucepan melt and cook
butter over medium heat until it starts to foam and the
bubbling/sputtering stops. Stir a few times, especially after solids
sink to bottom, to make sure they don't burn. Butter should be
medium golden yellow. Immediately remove from burner. Stir in
chocolate chips until incorporated. Allow to rest 10 minutes while
you...
 
Pan: Line a 9 x 12 x 2" metal - not glass or ceramic - baking dish
with [nonstick] foil as flat and neatly as possible. Fold edges
over outside to use to lift the brownies out of the pan after
cooling.
 
Batter: In small bowl, whisk together cocoa powder and flour. In
large bowl mix eggs, sugars, vanilla, [salt if using unsalted
butter], and vanilla. Beat with electric hand mixer on medium for 2
minutes. Incorporate the butter-chocolate mixture on low speed. Add
in the flour-cocoa mixture and mix until roughly incorporated.
Finish the mixing with your hand whisk or rubber spatula until fully
incorporated, making sure to scrape bottom of bowl.
 
[Tasting: Lick the beaters/spatula - AFTER detaching beaters from
unit first!]
 
Bake: Pour batter into your foil-lined metal baking dish and place
on middle rack in pre-heated oven. Clean up the mess you made while
the brownies bake for 35 minutes or until thermometer reads 210F in
middle of brownie (not the bottom of the pan) no comes out barely
clean, but no longer (check at 30 minutes). Allow to cool for at
least an hour.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 29 04:55AM +1000

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 13:55:09 +0100, "Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:
 
 
>They were at least a weekly recurrence in my family.
 
>===
 
> Share recipes please?
 
I'll see if I can find my mother's old recipe. But the ingredients
would roughly be rice, onion, garlic, leek, cumin, coriander, pork
filets or shrimp or fried egg, kecap until the rice is light brown,
served with krupuk.
"Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>: Jul 28 08:21PM +0100

"Bruce" wrote in message news:9ds0ifdqeks2l4ffdbej5lkm6g3r8s1nno@4ax.com...
 
On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 13:55:09 +0100, "Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:
 
 
>They were at least a weekly recurrence in my family.
 
>===
 
> Share recipes please?
 
I'll see if I can find my mother's old recipe. But the ingredients
would roughly be rice, onion, garlic, leek, cumin, coriander, pork
filets or shrimp or fried egg, kecap until the rice is light brown,
served with krupuk.
 
===
 
Thank you:) If you can find your Mother's recipe I would be very
grateful:)) They are not something I have ever made:)
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Jul 28 10:29AM -0400

On 7/26/2020 5:49 PM, Janet wrote:
 
>> Jill
 
> So do I, but they are no longer an economy cut. Since oxtails became
> sought after by upmarket restaurants, the price has shot up.
 
Oxtails are very expensive now but they make such a nice soup/stew! I
don't recall exactly where we were - in transit someplace in the
mid-1960's when my father had been transferred yet again. We stopped at
a diner while driving across the country, somewhere in the middle of the
US. Dad was thrilled to find oxtail stew on the menu! My mother,
brothers and I had never heard of it. We stuck with the rather
pedestrian, familiar spaghetti & meatballs. LOL
 
I never actually tasted oxtails until I was in my late 20's. I know the
price has gone waaaay up since then. But they make for some of the
richest, best tasting beef stock/soup ever!
 
> the retail market , I think they all get ground up for junkfood
> products.
 
> Janet UK
 
I do remember there used to be "stewing hens" and then there were
"fryers". These days most whole chickens aren't labeled that way.
 
Jill
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