Saturday, July 11, 2020

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 10 topics

Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 12 03:47AM +1000

On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 10:17:19 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>
wrote:
 
>The last time I had that Hoppin' John has to be a couple of years ago,
>I like her Limas much better.
 
Margaret Holmes Seasoned Medium Green Lima Beans
"medium green lima beans, water, monosodium glutamate, salt,
dehydrated onion, sugar, spices, natural flavors, natural flavors,
natural smoke flavor and chicken fat."
 
The more they say "natural", the more it's crap. And chicken fat? Do
Americans drop dead if they eat something with no corps juices in it?
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 12 03:50AM +1000

On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 06:27:58 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net"
>But don't let this sample of her vegetables throw you off. Although I shy
>away from turnip greens now, hers are really outstanding. The Glory brand
>is very good, too.
 
"Margaret Holmes Seasoned Turnip Greens
Cut Leaf Turnip Greens, Water, Monosodium Glutamate, Sugar, Salt,
Hydrolyzed Soy Protein, Corn Gluten and Wheat Gluten with Partially
Hydrogenated Cottonseed and Soy Oil, Vinegar Powder (Maltodextrin,
Food Starch-Modified, and Vinegar), Dehydrated Onion, Maltodextrin,
Spice, Dehydrated Garlic, Rendered Bacon Fat and Bacon Bits (Contains
Natural Smoke Flavor, Water, Salt, Sugar, Sodium Phosphate, Sodium
Erythorbate, Sodium Nitrate), Lard, Sodium Diacetate, Natural Flavor
(Contains Natural Smoke Flavor), Gelatin, Silicon Dioxide, Disodium
Inosinate, Smoked Pork Fat."
 
Ewww. And what the hell are bacon fat and pork fat doing in a can of
vegetables? You'd think people could add that themselves if they felt
like Dracula.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 12 03:51AM +1000

On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 09:23:01 -0400, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
wrote:
 
 
>I wouldn't have bought the Hoppin' John but that's because I don't like
>Hoppin' John even when made from scratch. LOL I like Margaret Holmes
>seasoned butter beans. They go well with pork chops. :)
 
"Margaret Holmes Seasoned Butter Beans
butter beans, water, monosodium glutamate, salt, dehydrated onion,
sugar, spices rendered bacon fat, calcium chloride (as a firming
agent) and natural hickory smoke flavor."
 
What a company.
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jul 11 01:35PM -0500

Bruce wrote:
 
> Ewww. And what the hell are bacon fat and pork fat doing in a can of
> vegetables? You'd think people could add that themselves if they felt
> like Dracula.
 
Druce, you ingest all that stuff and more ... just from the butt fumes.
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Jul 11 11:59AM -0700

> > that's an Aussie thing.
 
> Really? It is said quite frequently in the South.
 
> "All y'all get in the car right now!"
 
I'm from St. Louis, and I say, "You all," fairly often, but not the contraction.
 
--Bryan
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jul 11 12:37PM -0700

On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 1:44:29 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
 
> If you make a vegetable product, it's not smart to exclude 10-15% of
> potential buyers by adding animal products. Companies generally care a
> lot about 10-15% more or less profit.
 
It's not smart to exclude 100% of their actual buyers by making a
product that they wouldn't recognize as the named dish and wouldn't
enjoy the taste.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Jul 11 12:44PM -0500

On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 09:59:55 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
 
> I should think "Fake" pretty much covers the situation. I don't
> need to call them much of anything except, "Oh, hey. Let's do
> _this_ for lunch."
 
Fake Buffalo Wings covers every food on Earth.
 
I had a fake roast beef sandwich for breakfast. It was 2 eggs, ham,
and cheese.
 
> Breaded and fried chicken breast strips are sometimes called
> "boneless wings" in restaurants, which is simply incorrect.
 
Hence my second comment about them having to be wings. You called
your breast strips wings....
 
-sw
Lucretia Borgia <lucretiaborgia@fl.it>: Jul 11 03:53PM -0300

On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 09:59:55 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
 
>Breaded and fried chicken breast strips are sometimes called
>"boneless wings" in restaurants, which is simply incorrect.
 
>Cindy Hamilton
 
Don't know if it is the same in the US but about a year ago they
stopped selling 'real' chicken wings, just as they come off the
chicken, 3 piece with two joints. Now they only sell the chopped up
rubbish. Since I like to bake them plain, all the liquid drains out
in the cooking. I have, thankfully, found one store that still sells
the wing intact, so I do a short drive every so often to stock up on
them.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 12 04:54AM +1000

On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 15:53:10 -0300, Lucretia Borgia
 
>Don't know if it is the same in the US but about a year ago they
>stopped selling 'real' chicken wings, just as they come off the
>chicken, 3 piece with two joints.
 
3? Chickens only have 2 wings.
 
>in the cooking. I have, thankfully, found one store that still sells
>the wing intact, so I do a short drive every so often to stock up on
>them.
 
Factory chicken?
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jul 11 12:30PM -0700

On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 2:55:00 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> >stopped selling 'real' chicken wings, just as they come off the
> >chicken, 3 piece with two joints.
 
> 3? Chickens only have 2 wings.
 
A chicken wing has two joints that correspond to the human wrist and
elbow, separating three sections that correspond to the human hand,
forearm, and upper arm.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jul 11 12:34PM -0700

On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 1:45:13 PM UTC-4, Sqwertz wrote:
 
> Hence my second comment about them having to be wings. You called
> your breast strips wings....
 
> -sw
 
Anybody who isn't trying to pick a fight would recognize my "Fake
Buffalo Wings" as a higher-protein, lower-fat alternative to wings.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jul 11 01:31PM -0500

Bruce wrote:
>>> etc.
 
>> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA, bending over and busting a gut laughing at you!!!
 
> Ah, Joan goes into child mode.
 
Get a good sniff Druce?
Pamela <pamela.poster@gmail.com>: Jul 11 07:51PM +0100

On 16:28 11 Jul 2020, Mike Duffy said:
 
> On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 03:25:01 -0700, Leo wrote:
 
>> Luckily, I can hang in there for a few more posts and your edification.
 
> Oh, please, Uncle Leo, tell Pamela another story.
 
I can hardly wait. :)
Pamela <pamela.poster@gmail.com>: Jul 11 08:03PM +0100

On 16:45 11 Jul 2020, Gary said:
>> American population think he's a moron. His own family think he's a
>> moron.
 
> Just look at what a moron can achieve in the USA. Jealous much?
 
Trump is a grifter. In business he's swindled customers, suppliers and
workmen all his life. Before that, he swindled the taxman.
 
His neice reminds us he's not self-made but inherited most of his wealth.
 
His achievement has been to con people. :(
Pamela <pamela.poster@gmail.com>: Jul 11 08:05PM +0100

> paper when ever the USA is mentioned. I'm sure there's enough
> aggravation in your own country to keep your b/p at the stroke level
> without looking overseas for more teeth grinding news.
 
If I did that I would be as poorly informed about other countries as Trump
is.
Pamela <pamela.poster@gmail.com>: Jul 11 08:09PM +0100


> I love how everyone living o.u.t.s.i.d.e. the USA, aka not citizens,
> have the answers to all our 'problems'. As if they didn't have enough
> of their own to have time to even read about our er, um, ah 'problems.'
 
If America is so smart then why is it in the current mess? It's like watching
a reality tv show and trying to tell the participants, "Wake up, your
nightmare really is reality!"
 
> Fat Tony eh? Where does the answer to all our problems live? Since he
> has taken on the persona of a woman (Pamela), is he a cross-dress, too?
 
How do personal cheap shots reduce the condition America's in?
Pamela <pamela.poster@gmail.com>: Jul 11 08:16PM +0100

On 16:44 11 Jul 2020, Gary said:
 
>> shot. You've become the laughing stock of the whole world.
 
> The whole world is free to laugh at the US. Just know that we are
> still the alpha country. Jealous much?
 
Strange thing is America never comes top of any international satisfaction
survey. It's rich but unhappy.
 
Nobody I know wants is applying to live America.
CookinYeti <yeti.set.cook@gmail.com>: Jul 11 12:11PM -0700

So I have been working on building my own pizza oven over the past month. It
is about ready to start doing some really firing and pizza making.
 
Do any of you guys have advice on pizza dough? Any suggested recipes?
Also what is the best way to fire a pizza oven? This is technically a cob oven.
 
I made this using cob, which is a mix of clay and sand. I used about a 1:1 ratio and built up nearly 6 inches thermal mass. I made it to be modile, so during the winter I can move it to the garage so it hopefully last longer.
 
If you want to see how I made it, heres a link:
https://youtu.be/PkfRTFKJ8sU
jay <jay@mail.com>: Jul 11 11:59AM -0600

On 7/11/20 7:08 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
 
>> Dissimilar metals will cause corrosion.  They should use copper nails.
 
> Copper nails are not very strong and stainless steel nails won't cause
> corrosion.
 
They won't be there long enough to corrode anyway. Copper gutters are a
thieves delight.
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jul 11 12:02PM -0700

On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 12:59:06 PM UTC-5, jay wrote:
> > corrosion.
 
> They won't be there long enough to corrode anyway. Copper gutters are a
> thieves delight.
 
And THAT is why the existing copper gutters were painted Black!
 
John Kuthe...
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jul 11 02:55PM -0400

On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 Gary wrote:
>> most meat loaf is disgusting, made with mystery meat.
 
>Even worse made with no onions that your wife won't allow, you
>wimp.
 
My wife doesn't care for meat loaf even without onions. I make it for
me however I want, and with onions... I make enough to freeze several
slices. I defrost how much I want in the fridge, I much prefer cold
meat loaf sandwhiches. When cold there is no onion aroma.
There are lots of foods she likes that I don't like, however we
respect each other's likes and dislikes. I detest the smell of tea
with hot milk, she has her tea when I'm not around. I detest the odor
of burnt toasted bread so now she knows to turn on the exhaust fan
when toasting bread. We don't argue about foods, actually we don't
argue about anything, definitely not about what to eat, probably why
we've been happily married since '91.
It's much easier to get along when there's no control freak... I think
most marriges fail because one or both are control freaks. And since
I do ALL the cooking and she's very happy that I do, so it's very easy
for me to prepare what she likes and what I like. We both like most
foods, there are only a few that we don't like and we both have the
same dislikes, we both despise lamb. My wife doesn't like runny eggs,
that's very easy to work around, I put her's in the pan first and
leave her's in the pan a minute longer. Right now I'm stewing yellow
crookneck squash fresh picked from our garden, usually I'd add a
sliced onion but a large can of whole tomatoes and Italian herbs was
fine without the onion. Garlic doesn't bother her so I added two
cloves of minced... and a 1/4 stick of butter, s n'p to round it off.
I could have added a few sliced carrots and potatoes but was too lazy
to peel. As it is I filled an 8 qt pot... a lot of nice squash for a
first harvest... will be a lot more very soon. Cukes are coming and
lots more. WTF don't you have a garden... a grown man living all
alone paying rent yet, no ferret either... what's wrong with you?
Lucretia Borgia <lucretiaborgia@fl.it>: Jul 11 03:49PM -0300

On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 17:54:05 +0100, S Viemeister
 
>> There's a DVR built into my cable box. I'd like to stop the cable service
>> and exclusively stream, but my husband complains whenever I suggest it.
 
>Mine, too.
 
I cut the cable about four years ago and have never regretted it.
There is more than I could ever watch. I do have netflix and that is
$9 a month, a pittance compared to cable :)
graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: Jul 11 11:53AM -0600

On 2020-07-11 11:35 a.m., Bryan Simmons wrote:
>> Al Pacino in the title role.
 
> I love this movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZD2yJMGKXw
 
> --Bryan
 
I last saw AMND at the Globe in London's South Bank. The production in
this replica of a theatre from Shakespeare's time was truly magical.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 12 03:52AM +1000

On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 08:53:21 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net"
 
>> Jill
 
>I just hope he doesn't go out and try to chitchat with the roofers and they
>all pass out and cause a delay in the roofing or them dropping tiles.
 
Only if those roofers are real Anglos and don't eat garlic themselves.
graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: Jul 11 11:18AM -0600

On 2020-07-10 9:57 p.m., Leo wrote:
 
> Although I strenuously disagree with your politics, you have terrific
> skills in more than one arena. Become a capitalist with "Graham's Bake
> and Bowl", or start an Internet business.
 
Thanks, Leo! As I mentioned in another post, I have retired from a
professional lifetime of marketing my qualifications etc. and don't
relish the thought of starting again - but it seems that I must:-(
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