Thursday, July 23, 2020

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Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jul 23 08:14AM -0400

On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 16:46:24 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons
>> and no labor.
 
>While I agree than home canning them is impractical, cooking fresh ones can be great. A few days ago, I made BBQ sauce from garden (cherry) tomatoes, a serrano pepper, and a bunch of other ingredients, including a little bottled black cherry juice. I think I went too heavy on the apple cider vinegar (I should have used half apple cider vinegar and half distilled vinegar), brown sugar and mustard powder, and a little tamarind might have improved it, but it was pretty good for a first attempt.
 
>--Bryan
 
With all those other ingredients no one could tell whether they were
home grown or canned. If you have a glut of home growns canning home
made BBQ sauce is an option but I'd not choose to use home growns in a
recipe like that unless I had more than could be eaten fresh, and I
had a lot of time to waste reducing all the water gently without
caramelizing them. For me I'd rather give my excess homegrowns to
someone who'd appreciate them rather than cooking them... especially
since reducing the excess water in fresh tomatoes requires a lot of
time and labor as you'd need to remove the skins and seeds.... whole
canned tomatoes with skins already removed are readily available for
cheap, and removing the seeds with a food mill is a lot easier than
peeling and coring.
I've learned not to grow more tomatoes (and other crops) than I can
use fresh. Just because I have space to grow fifty heads of cabbage I
limit myself to growing no more than a dozen, and still I give some
away. Cabbage grows very well in our cool weather, 10+ pound heads
are usual, what would I do with 100 pounds of cole slaw? I use at
least half for cabbage soup and some for stuffed cabbage cooked in the
same pot as those freeze well. I tried making kim chi but I don't
care for it. I use the sweet cabbage centers in tossed salads and I
like to eat the cabbage hearts with just a bit of kosher salt, I first
pare away the bitter outter portion.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jul 23 08:22AM -0400

On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 17:19:27 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons
 
>Whether or not one needs the minerals for health, purified water is less aesthetically appealing. IMO, the best tasting water comes from deep wells in the Missouri and Arkansas Ozarks. When we go camping, we bring empty jugs to fill up at the state park for drinking. https://mostateparks.com/park/echo-bluff-state-park
 
>> songbird
 
>--Bryan
 
We have deep well water but this being an agricultural area farmers
use a lot of chemicals and live stock waste adds plenty of minerals
and germs... our drinking water is RO filtered and all our water is
treated with UV... Dermatologists are wealthy enough.
jay <jay@mail.com>: Jul 23 07:47AM -0600

On 7/22/20 6:19 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
 
> Whether or not one needs the minerals for health, purified water is less aesthetically appealing. IMO, the best tasting water comes from deep wells in the Missouri and Arkansas Ozarks. When we go camping, we bring empty jugs to fill up at the state park for drinking. https://mostateparks.com/park/echo-bluff-state-park
 
>> songbird
 
> --Bryan
 
Very true!
 
One of our wells is drilled around 700 feet deep and hits static water
around 500 feet. Best water ever! RO water tastes very flat and 25
percent of the filtered water is wasted down the drain.
 
Maintaining a deep water well is expensive though. There is a lot of
labor expense in pulling the well head for repair or replacement since
it comes out in 20 foot sections and of course those that do this work
know very "well" how to charge for it. :(
U.S. Janet B. <JB@nospam.com>: Jul 23 08:47AM -0600

On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 08:14:16 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>
wrote:
 
>care for it. I use the sweet cabbage centers in tossed salads and I
>like to eat the cabbage hearts with just a bit of kosher salt, I first
>pare away the bitter outter portion.
 
There are many, many food preparations that call for the entirety of
the tomato. The recipe needs the juice of the tomato to provide a
tasty liquid. I have no idea why you think all tomatoes must have the
juice cooked away and caramelized to be useful. I heard that those
tomato pastes and sauces was where all the 'mystery' tomatoes that
were bruised and rotten went. :))
Janet US
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jul 23 11:01AM -0400

>labor expense in pulling the well head for repair or replacement since
>it comes out in 20 foot sections and of course those that do this work
>know very "well" how to charge for it. :(
 
No one with a functioning brain believes your water well is 700 ft
deep and another at 500' deep... the typical residential water well is
about 100'... at 700' someone was drilling for oil off shore.
 
I don't believe yoose two pinheads have any well... yoose moroons are
drinking typical bottled water, comes from a gas station hose bib.
I've had well water most of my life, on Lung Guyland it was a 2" well
about 90' into the aquafer. Here we have two wells, the one we use at
home is a 4" well 120 feet deep. A second well is an 8" high capacity
well that's about 100 feet deep that was originally for agri use
(irrigation), Yields 23 gallons per minute we use it for our garden
and for washing our tractors... it was recently fitted with a new
self-draining pressure tank so we don't need to mess with it for
winters other than turning it off at the circuit breaker and emptying
the pressure tank. I know a lot about water wells, if you claim a
700' and 500' deep wells they have to be Pinochio Brand wells.
Submersable pumps that can bring water to the surface from those
depths would cost many thousands of dollars and have a monel point and
screen.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jul 23 03:07AM -0700


> > Cindy Hamilton
 
> The food wasn't bad, just not satisfying. If I remember correctly a lot
> of the dishes were baby food consistency.
 
Yep, that's Indian food. At least Indian dishes with meat usually
have some chunks in them.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jul 23 10:29AM -0400

On 7/23/2020 5:09 AM, Bruce wrote:
 
> Generally speaking, vegetarians won't eat meat or fish, but will eat
> dairy products and eggs. Vegans also don't eat those, which makes
> their lifestyle harder to me.
 
When I lived in Philly I used to go to a kosher vegetarian restaurant.
It was another step but not too difficult if already vegetarian. It was
really a great place with impeccable service. The waiters were all
older men that worked there for years.
 
Unfortunately, the building and name still exist but that is all. Used
to be the only beverage was ginger ale and iced tea. Now it is a full
bar and you can get cheeseburgers. No going back. No more blintzes.
U.S. Janet B. <JB@nospam.com>: Jul 23 09:00AM -0600

On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 10:25:05 +0100, "Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:
 
 
>======
 
> Yes I did. I grew up with it. It is only since I got older I have gone
>off it.
 
a half dozen or less bites of meat and I am done. I love dishes that
have been flavored with meat like soups, casseroles and the like.
Janet US
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jul 23 03:33AM -0700

On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 10:26:58 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
 
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If you like drying stuff, you might like one of these gizmos:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzoHJn1lo_w
songbird <songbird@anthive.com>: Jul 23 06:16AM -0400

Ophelia wrote:
...
> could you maybe find some in there?
 
> I have seen much smaller dehydrators these days, small round ones. Could
> you fit one of those it?
 
no, it just would not be used enough to justify the
space it would take up. i have higher priority things
like books. :) i'm making progress on getting some
space back by shredding old papers and getting rid of
stuff, but this is a tough time of the year to try to
do anything like that with the gardening and other
issues coming up. it's been a rather hectic summer
so far.
 
 
songbird
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jul 23 08:55AM -0400

On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 16:20:15 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net"
>> the apples or the nuts.
 
>I've never seen W.S. with marshmallows and I haven't seen a.n.y. dish
>that contains the colored marshmallows.
 
Depends whose making it, I've seen many versions of each and they
overlap... typically prepared by the upstate NY church ladies for an
after Sunday morning mass feed... accompanied by bologna and American
cheese on white with ballpark yallow mustard. Long ago I had occasion
to attend church in Little Falls, NY... only the macaroni salad was
edible.
U.S. Janet B. <JB@nospam.com>: Jul 23 08:56AM -0600

On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 09:15:34 +0100, "Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:
 
 
> I've don't think I've ever had Ambrosia. The only thing I can remember
>as a child were cans of Ambrosia Rice Pudding but I think that was just the
>name:)
 
This is the Ambrosia recipe that I have.
 
1 cup chunk pineapple (canned and drained)
1 cup mandarin oranges (drained)
1 cup bite size marshmallows
1 cup shredded coconut
1 cup sour cream
Mix, chill and serve.
 
Janet US
"Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>: Jul 23 03:57PM +0100

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On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 10:26:58 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
 
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If you like drying stuff, you might like one of these gizmos:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzoHJn1lo_w
 
 
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I can't open that:(
songbird <songbird@anthive.com>: Jul 23 06:21AM -0400

Ophelia wrote:
...
> Nummyness eh???? LOL that is a new one to me. I love it:))))
 
:) num num in my tum! :)
 
 
songbird
"Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>: Jul 23 03:45PM +0100

"songbird" wrote in message news:fu4oug-772.ln1@anthive.com...
 
Ophelia wrote:
...
> Nummyness eh???? LOL that is a new one to me. I love it:))))
 
:) num num in my tum! :)
 
 
songbird
 
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LOL yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :)
 
 
 
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Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jul 23 10:36AM -0400

On 7/23/2020 4:53 AM, Gary wrote:
> copper gutters.
 
> His dormer windows appear to be aluminum clad replacements
> anyway and they look good.
 
A lot of guys just made a simple 90 degree bend, nail it up and done. I
always made a template and wade the bends back in the garage. I had a
little experience in sheet metal design in my real job so my approach
was different and could make a more complex shape
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jul 23 06:29AM -0400

Bruce wrote:
 
> >You can see every turn you made with that mower. Did it's wheels fall off?
 
> Lol, unbelievable. I'd call you a whiney old busybody washerwoman, but
> that wouldn't be fair to old washerwomen.
 
The bullies are grasping for straws. Those tire tracks will
fluff back up overnight. John's back section looks much nicer
than all that scraggly fence and posts look beyond his property
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 23 08:34PM +1000


>The bullies are grasping for straws. Those tire tracks will
>fluff back up overnight. John's back section looks much nicer
>than all that scraggly fence and posts look beyond his property
 
I can't believe that people like Steve, Cindy, Alex, Joan enjoy
putting someone down so much. Tells you how empty their lives are.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jul 23 07:00AM -0400

Bruce wrote:
> >than all that scraggly fence and posts look beyond his property
 
> I can't believe that people like Steve, Cindy, Alex, Joan enjoy
> putting someone down so much. Tells you how empty their lives are.
 
Don't forget princess Jill. Her bullying of John and Julie
is the main reason that I pick on her occasionally.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 23 09:17PM +1000

>> putting someone down so much. Tells you how empty their lives are.
 
>Don't forget princess Jill. Her bullying of John and Julie
>is the main reason that I pick on her occasionally.
 
I knew I forgot someone.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 23 09:27PM +1000


>>Don't forget princess Jill. Her bullying of John and Julie
>>is the main reason that I pick on her occasionally.
 
>I knew I forgot someone.
 
Plus Janet UK, Dave Smith, what a collection!
Janet <nobody@home.org>: Jul 23 01:01PM +0100

In article <5F196DDC.E04851EE@att.net>, g.majors@att.net says...
 
> > I can't believe that people like Steve, Cindy, Alex, Joan enjoy
> > putting someone down so much. Tells you how empty their lives are.
 
I'm afraid that just reveals the low IQ of your own observation,
recall, or reading comprehension skills, Gary.
 
Far from "empty " lives , the posters you list are the same posters
whose PH reveals active, interesting and rewarding lives, and a
functioning brsin and memory.
 

 
Janet UK
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jul 23 08:34AM -0400


>> https://i.postimg.cc/QCk1bjYt/7-21-2020-Mowed-out-back.jpg
 
>> John Kuthe...
 
>You can see every turn you made with that mower.  Did it's wheels fall off?
 
That's the result of a single blade rotary mower... he really should
change to a mulching blade on that narrow width mower.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jul 23 08:42AM -0400

On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 02:56:09 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
 
>> You can see every turn you made with that mower.  Did it's wheels fall off?
 
>Looks like the blade is wobbly.
 
>Cindy Hamilton
 
Actually the ground is wobbly, hilly. He mowed the hilly part in the
wrong direction... look at the cut at the top of the slope that's near
the house... all the cuts should be in that direction, or go back and
make another pass at 90ยบ.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jul 23 10:07AM -0400

Janet wrote:
 
> Far from "empty " lives , the posters you list are the same posters
> whose PH reveals active, interesting and rewarding lives, and a
> functioning brsin and memory.
 
Talk about low IQ of obversation, recall, or reading
comprehension skills... I didn't even write that
but I did agree with it and added Jill.
 
You should just stick to nice posts unless that's too
hard for you to do.
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