Monday, January 18, 2021

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 11 topics

Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Jan 17 03:40PM -0600

On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 16:59:11 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe wrote:
 
> sister the primary executrix of his Estate after he passed away.
> Knowing my sister would fairly distribute his estate equally and
> fairly among the three siblings, my Father's descendants.
 
So yes, just like I said.
 
-sw
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jan 18 01:45AM -0800

On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 3:33:41 PM UTC-5, Master Bruce wrote:
 
> >None of which have any protein to speak of.
 
> >I'd rather have falafel.
> I've never thought to myself: "That was nice, but not enough protein".
 
Don't you think about the nutritional content of your meals? Do you
eat anything that will fit into your piehole?
 
Cindy Hamilton
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jan 18 01:47AM -0800

On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 8:31:21 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
 
> > Yum that looks lovely:) I have MSG but I never notice a difference in
> > flavour when I use it or not.
> It's pretty easy for me to detect in certain foods. If potato/mac salad doesn't have MSG, it feels like there's a big hole in the flavor. At the local restaurants it's about 50/50 with MSG/no MSG. My guess is that people don't put MSG in potato salad on the mainland.
 
People? No. Corporations? Yes.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Master Bruce <masterbruce@null.null>: Jan 18 09:07PM +1100

On Mon, 18 Jan 2021 01:45:44 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> I've never thought to myself: "That was nice, but not enough protein".
 
>Don't you think about the nutritional content of your meals? Do you
>eat anything that will fit into your piehole?
 
I want to like the flavour, I want enough vegetables and I don't want
to be hungry afterwards. But I don't have a specific daily need for
protein that I'm aware of. Maybe that's because I always get enough of
it.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jan 18 03:11AM -0800

On Monday, January 18, 2021 at 5:07:51 AM UTC-5, Master Bruce wrote:
> to be hungry afterwards. But I don't have a specific daily need for
> protein that I'm aware of. Maybe that's because I always get enough of
> it.
 
For sedentary men: 0.8 grams of protein per kilogram of body mass per day.
 
Swordfish (as an example) contains 20 grams of protein per 85 grams.
 
I try to ensure that every meal has protein (meat, fish, eggs, dairy), fruit
or vegetables, and--because I like it--starch.
 
It's trivially easy to produce good flavors; I don't worry about that.
 
Cindy Hamilton
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jan 17 02:32PM +1100

On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 18:29:57 -0800 (PST), dsi1
>https://groups.google.com/g/rec.food.cooking/c/vXMwCPvwo1g/m/lTIRutW2vWsJ
 
>Today, for lunch I had happy fried chicken. I call it "happy" because it has no bones to pick. It's coated with my Southern fried flour. It's seasoned with salt, pepper, garlic powder. and MSG.
>https://photos.app.goo.gl/HNxwNeuT18kVR6qa9
 
I like bones.
Master Bruce <masterbruce@null.null>: Jan 18 05:46AM +1100

On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 06:05:30 -0600, Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>
wrote:
 
>> killed animals. That's 100% admitting that meat is enjoyable.
 
>Exactly. I've expressed the same sentiment dozens of different ways
>in the past, and yours is as good or better than any.
 
All y'all don't get it. I guess meat's not very good for the brain.
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Jan 17 03:37PM -0600

On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 18:29:57 -0800 (PST), dsi1 wrote:
 
 
>> I'd eat it!
 
>> John Kuthe, RN. BSN...
 
> I saw that coming some time back. These days, I'm not so sure that it's going to make sense from an economic and market stand point. My guess is that cultured chicken might work to make the ubiquitous chicken nugget. Kids seem to love that stuff.
 
2 years ago you PROMISED us that these meat replicators were the
future of meat and in 20 years we'd all have one of them on our
counters.
 
-sw
"Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>: Jan 18 10:26AM

"songbird" wrote in message news:sl4fdh-vj8.ln1@anthive.com...
 
cshenk wrote:
...
> I know thats more than many here wanted to know about US Navy ship
> cooking, but hopefully some find the reality to be interesting. It's
> not a cruise ship, but it's actually quite good.
 
that's a heck of a lot more variety and food than i
imagined they'd have. i think i'd weigh 500lbs by the
time i got done with 4yrs of that.
 
 
songbird
 
====
 
Ahh but think of the enjoyment:))
"cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net>: Jan 17 02:12PM -0600

songbird wrote:
 
> > space hence more prepared foods with less effort hence less cooks.
 
> shudder ick.
 
> songbird
 
Chuckle, sometimes you just have to deal with months between supply
runs. Ships do get supplies run to them even at sea but you'll get one
long after out of fresh lettuce, tomatoes, fruits and such. You make
do with what you have.
 
For all of that, the chow on a modern ship is pretty much 3star now
with some ships running a pretty consistant 4star. No, I am not
joking. Sure, you might get some canned veggies in the mix (IE: regular
stuff folks at home eat). You might be eating a soup made with water
added to a premix of spices and barley and/or dried beans. Fresh
mushrooms only last so long so you may find reconstituted dry ones or
canned in places.
 
Consider the almost garbage the Army gets, Navy chow has always
exceeded all other branches when out in the fields/at sea.
 
Here's one you may not have thought of but is true. The quality level
for taste is optimized as well as health. That means you don't see
heinz/hunts tomato products or contadina now. Salt too high. Instead
it's Tuitarossa, Red/gold, Del Frattelli (sp) and so on. They taste
better and Navy cooks can work them into reduced sodium diets.
 
By 'prepared things' I mean they can store industrial sized containers
of Salsa.
 
You can't manage Vegan and proper nutrition but ovo-lacto vegetarians
won't have a problem on a bigger ship. You can't maintain Halal/Kosher
on a ship but you can easily avoid the most offensive items if not
picky about how it was butchered or who handled it in preparation.
 
In Sheldon's time, they didn't even try to accomodate for such but
today it is automatic.
 
Lets look at a typical day on the Essex? (My last ship, main mess
deck). Lunch was designed to be quicker to eat as most got only 45
mins off to go eat. Time in line was seldom more than 10 minutes.
Most would take 15 minutes to eat and have 20 minutes to go smoke or
whatever.
 
Always there:
- Rice, normally white, would vary with long grain and medium,
sometimes brown in a smaller rice maker.
- Beans, types varied as well as spicing but made from dried, had
warning if not vegetarian with what meat or meat fat was added
- a Spicy soup, often meat free with beans
- A mild soup, often a simple chicken noodle
- Salad bar with some 30 items plus 5-6 dressings
 
Variable per day but always 3 per meal:
- Peas
- Green beans
- Corn
- Carrots
- Cabbage
- Broccoli
- 'other' (Cauliflower, turnip, collard or mustard greens, spinach,
squash in summer yellow or green)
 
Variable but always 2 per meal
- Pasta or Potato
- Winter squash types
 
Variable but normally 3 per meal
- Beef (could be chilimac, taco meat for shells or soft wrappers, steak)
- Chicken (could be fried, pasta with chicken, baked, shredded as
alternative to beef tacos on that ship, spagetti and meatballs)
- Seafood option (Shrimp, baked fish portion, fried breaded, steamed
salmon was popular on that ship)
- Pork (shredded, breaded cutlets, pot roasted, oven BBQ ribs)
- Sausage such as kielbasa
 
Variable but always 2 per meal
- white bread (may be sliced or small buns, may be turned into garlic
bread)
- 'other' (Corn bread, wheat bread, rye bread sometimes)
 
Desserts Variable but normally 5-6 types
- This is where the 'prepared' kicks in but as the fresh pastries get
used up they still make cookies, cakes, pies from frozen fruits and so
on).
 
I know thats more than many here wanted to know about US Navy ship
cooking, but hopefully some find the reality to be interesting. It's
not a cruise ship, but it's actually quite good.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jan 18 01:38AM -0800


> Their prices would need to be higher. Plus, most folks prefer artificial maple flavor.
 
Most people have their taste degraded by decades of industrial food.
 
> corn syrup. For pancakes and waffles you should try mixing 2:1 Karo light to real
> maple.
 
> --Bryan
 
Ew. Just ew. I always buy grade B maple syrup for its more pronounced natural
maple flavor. Why would I want to dilute that?
 
Cindy Hamilton
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jan 17 02:48PM -0500

On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 09:37:48 -0800 (PST), dsi1
 
>> Recently heard Bobby Flay say, "It's a good ingredient to use. No need
>> to "reinvent the wheel."
 
>Chinese cooks like ketchup. It's used as a sweetener and because it "brightens" up a dish.
 
We use very little ketchup but I like some on cold leftovers,
especially on a potato omelet. I haven't noticed any change over the
decades in Heinze Red. And it's extremely easy to jazz it up with
ordinary cooking ingredients... one of my favorites is to add some
real maple syrup, zips up most any leftover meat sandwich... will even
save a mystery meat burger. If McDs offered real maple syrup with
their condiments they'd double their sales.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jan 18 01:30AM -0800

On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 4:46:31 PM UTC-5, S Viemeister wrote:
> local butchers and green grocers, with a couple of smallish supermarkets
> within walking distance. My mother was a good cook, though, and I
> learned a lot from her.
 
Nearly everybody had union jobs with GM or Ford. Good paychecks and
benefits. My grandfather was a tool and die maker for Fischer Body; my
mother worked at a company that sold and repaired those kinds of tools.
 
Cindy Hamilton
songbird <songbird@anthive.com>: Jan 17 12:20PM -0500

Gary wrote:
 
> So much better when fresh made. I don't have a machine now but I do make
> egg noodles from scratch occasionally. I roll them out and use a pizza
> wheel to cut them.
 
we used to make noodles when i was a kid. haven't done
that much at all in recent years.
 
 
songbird
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: Jan 17 12:38PM -0700

On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 09:38:47 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
 
> I love hearing you codgers talk about the olden times. Was there
> canned food then?
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
It wasn't that long ago!!!!
Master Bruce <masterbruce@null.null>: Jan 18 05:40AM +1100

On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 03:29:23 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
>Tuesday I'll buy a postcard stamp and drop it in the mail. He'll have no idea who sent
>it to him, but I hope it raises his blood pressure enough to give him an aneurism.
 
>https://www.flickr.com/photos/15522299@N08/50844592337/in/dateposted-public/
 
Bryan's usual reaction to someone who disagrees with him: Die! Suffer!
Bryan makes Trump look like a reasonable guy.
Daniel <me@sci.fidan.com>: Jan 18 03:59AM -0800

> preferring a banana after lunch and apple sauce after supper.
 
> I bought them at Walmart if anyone is curious. Expensive!
 
> Something else to watch out for.
 
It's a habit started as a child. I just eat them straight off the vine,
dirt and all. I figure it can't hurt, despite my mom's repeated calls to
wash them first back in the day.
 
These days I will de-vine them, wash them in cold water, then soak them
in ice water for 20-30 minutes.
 
When guests come, they usually remark how cold the grapes
are. Delicious.
 
I also love them frozen during the summer.
 
--
Daniel
 
Visit me at: gopher://gcpp.world
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Jan 18 12:04AM -0600

On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 13:38:56 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe wrote:
 
> NO forward facing camera on my device?
 
> Must I have one, or is it possible without one?
 
> John Kuthe...
 
They're just going to fire you. so it's best if you just use sound
so they can't see you crying.
 
-sw
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jan 17 07:49PM -0800

On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 6:23:25 PM UTC-6, ZZyXX wrote:
 
> > Sometimes the rules are unethical! Jim Crow stuff!
 
> > John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
 
> not to christians
 
Christians are often UNethical!
 
Look at the attackers of our Governent! MOST claim to BE Christians!
 
John Kuthe...
Beez Neez <from-the@hi.ve>: Jan 17 09:41PM -0800

On 1/17/2021 7:49 PM, John KOOKthe wrote:
 
> Chr
 
Nobody cares, dumbfuck!
 
NOBODY!
 
SHUT THE FUCK UP AND LEAVE!
chovy <chovy@pm.me>: Jan 17 08:50PM -0800

Trying to cut back on calorie intake.
 
Instead of ordering a pizza, I ordered salad ingredients from amazon
fresh. Got them 2 hours later.
 
Made a fattie with shredded carrots, mozzarella cheese, mushrooms,
onions and lettuc. with blue cheese dressing and croutons.
 
 
--
chovy
"Cal Q. Later" <math@operatio.ns>: Jan 17 07:23PM -0800

On 1/16/2021 7:42 AM, John KOOKthe wrote:
 
> I sure seemed to be your friend
 
You've never had friends, and you still don't, you dimwitted attention
whore. Fuck off.
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jan 17 07:43PM -0800

On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 9:25:17 PM UTC-6, Cal Q. Later wrote:
 
> > I sure seemed to be your friend
> You've never had friends, and you still don't, you dimwitted attention
> whore. Fuck off.
 
Eat SHIT and DIE! NymShifter ASSHOLE!
 
 
John Kuthe...
Not At All <not@hearing.it>: Jan 17 07:58PM -0800

On 1/17/2021 7:43 PM, John KOOKthe wrote:
 
> I like to Eat SHIT and DIE! I'm an ASSHOLE!
 
All of the above is true, isn't it, KOOKthe?
 
Fuck off, drop dead.
Omni Vore <eats@every.thing>: Jan 17 08:13PM -0800

On 1/16/2021 5:55 AM, John KOOKthe wrote:
 
> Yep, cannabis
 
Nobody cares, assnugget kook. Fuck off.
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