Wednesday, January 19, 2022

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 6 topics

Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Jan 19 01:13PM -0800

On Wednesday, January 19, 2022 at 12:24:36 PM UTC-6, bruce bowser wrote:
 
> > > Does she know you were born a couple of yards short of the paddock?
> > I sure could use a couple of Big Macs right about now.
> Ahhh, salad, big Mac sauce and bread. And more salad.
 
Big Mac sauce is not as gross as vomit.
 
--Bryan
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Jan 19 01:14PM -0800

On Wednesday, January 19, 2022 at 10:13:28 AM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
> > Janet US
> In a pinch, I've made an onion and tomato salad. It was good with the
> mayo/ketchup dressing.
 
Mayo/ketchup dressing is not as gross as vomit.
 
--Bryan
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jan 19 12:05PM -0800

On Wednesday, January 19, 2022 at 6:42:14 AM UTC-10, Graham wrote:
> > vacation. He wanted 12 weeks so got everyone riled up and a strike.
 
> > The owner sold the business and the new owner gives them 2 weeks.
> I'm not against unions. I'm against the NEED for unions!
 
When dealing with wolves, it helps a lot to have some wolves on your side. That's just the law of the jungle. Full disclosure: my dad was a strong union man, Hawaii is a strong union state.
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>: Jan 20 07:18AM +1100

On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 12:05:42 -0800 (PST), dsi1
 
>> > The owner sold the business and the new owner gives them 2 weeks.
>> I'm not against unions. I'm against the NEED for unions!
 
>When dealing with wolves, it helps a lot to have some wolves on your side. That's just the law of the jungle. Full disclosure: my dad was a strong union man, Hawaii is a strong union state.
 
Without unions, workers become victims of their bosses' greed.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jan 19 03:50PM -0500

On 2022-01-19 2:55 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> CEOs with machines. As an added bonus, all we got to pay them is a
> few bucks of electricity and an occasional squirt of machine oil.
> That's cheaper than even peanuts.
 
IMO, the obvious choice is to tax the hell out of robotics. They could
be a really steep tax to buy them and then some sort of usage tax, a
levy on any product made by robots. That money will then be used to
finance social programs and activities for the idled people. Just think
of millions and millions of unemployed people and all that spare time to
get into mischief.
Jeßus <j@j.net>: Jan 20 07:53AM +1100

On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 15:50:13 -0500, Dave Smith
>finance social programs and activities for the idled people. Just think
>of millions and millions of unemployed people and all that spare time to
>get into mischief.
 
 
That sounds like a good idea. Only problem is, social programs and
activities for the idle people don't really work well for most people,
from what I have seen. They are structured in a very narrow way that
doesn't suit everyone. Great idea in principle though.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jan 19 12:54PM -0800

On Wednesday, January 19, 2022 at 3:50:22 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> finance social programs and activities for the idled people. Just think
> of millions and millions of unemployed people and all that spare time to
> get into mischief.
 
A lot of vasectomies and tubal ligations come to mind.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Jeßus <j@j.net>: Jan 20 07:56AM +1100

On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 12:54:21 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> of millions and millions of unemployed people and all that spare time to
>> get into mischief.
 
>A lot of vasectomies and tubal ligations come to mind.
 
Don't worry, Bill Gates and friends have been on the case for a while
now.
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>: Jan 20 07:59AM +1100


>>A lot of vasectomies and tubal ligations come to mind.
 
> Don't worry, Bill Gates and friends have been on the case for a while
>now.
 
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Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jan 19 04:11PM -0500

On 2022-01-19 3:53 p.m., Je�us wrote:
> activities for the idle people don't really work well for most people,
> from what I have seen. They are structured in a very narrow way that
> doesn't suit everyone. Great idea in principle though.
 
 
In our industrial age thee are some people who cannot work. They may
have physical or mental disabilities. As a society we have an
obligation to care for them. Sometimes things happen, businesses shut
down and there is no work. The people left behind may need some help to
get retrained and/or relocated.
 
Then we have the lazy bastards who won't work and expect someone else to
pay their way. They may get a low end job with hard work and low pay
and, being lazy bastards they don't work out. There is a lot of effort
into training them, but in a lot of cases that is a waste of time. They
are basically unemployable. Think of them as the people who sit around
waiting for a phone call and then when they head out to their first day
of work their battery is dead or a tire is flat.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jan 19 04:12PM -0500

On 2022-01-19 3:54 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> of millions and millions of unemployed people and all that spare time to
>> get into mischief.
 
> A lot of vasectomies and tubal ligations come to mind.
 
That would just reduce the number of people who won't be able to afford
their products. It won't provide more consumers for them
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>: Jan 20 08:13AM +1100

On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 16:11:07 -0500, Dave Smith
>> doesn't suit everyone. Great idea in principle though.
 
>In our industrial age thee are some people who cannot work. They may
>have physical or mental disabilities.
 
Thanks for the info.
Thomas Joseph <jazeev1234@gmail.com>: Jan 19 01:09PM -0800

dsi1 wrote:
 
> This would be my favorite from that era or any era. I'm no fan of his by any means but I like his intimate treatment of the song.
 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jHr5JbTeRY
 
 
I have heard it many times. I'm not a big fan of the rat pack era. I like the 30s stuff more. Not just Sinatra but lots of obscure stuff from that time. I like Al Bowlly too. I go to youtube and let it run while posting. They have some interesting complications. Some are shoddy, others are put together with passion and knowledge. I will post you one of my favorite Sinatra tunes when he was with Dorsey in his early 20s. He had a vulnerable sound then. Sort of like a really good quarterback before he becomes too famous and starts doing things his own way, like a movie star who directs and writes his own films which are usually garbage.
 
I am enclosing a link. I have others I like even more, but this is a good example. I especially like when Sinatra comes back in after the musical interlude or whatever and closes out with the same lyrics again, only this time delivered just a bit differently. Subtle, nuanced, not a bunch of over the top bullshit. But if someone doesn't care for it I'm not going to go nuts or argue over it. It's a matter of taste. I like all kinds of music but have a narrow niche I typically turn to. My father was a professional singer. Burlesque. Back in the late 40s, early 50s. None of that stuff was forced on me. In fact I rarely saw my father. But I heard him sing often around the house and had a few old records of his, cheap ones made of cardboard in the old recording booths. So I grew up listening to rock and roll and other popular shit but was also open to the older stuff. This means I am more open and honest and therefore probably have better taste than the average asshole. Just kidding (sort of).
 
https://youtu.be/JOh1AXpW4ks
Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net>: Jan 19 03:17PM -0500

On 1/19/2022 1:06, Sqwertz wrote:
> when some program goes haywire. Facebook drives all my browsers
> nutz.
 
> -sw
 
I built mine in 2015, and installed 32 bit Windows 7 as I had a few
legacy 16 bit programs that I wanted to run. That means it can only use
up to 4GB of RAM, so no point in installing more. In retrospect, it
wasn't worth it, I should have gone 64 bit. It still works OK as is,
for my light usage, so I haven't done anything about it.
Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net>: Jan 19 03:23PM -0500

On 1/19/2022 4:28, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> opened and closed easily well over a hundred tabs.
 
>> -sw
 
> --Bryan
 
Wow... that's a lot of RAM... future-proofing, I guess!
Jeßus <j@j.net>: Jan 20 07:45AM +1100

On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 01:40:51 -0800 (PST), GM
 
>> > > Holy crap, Bryan... you have a *LOT* of tabs open... how does that
>> > > browser not crash??
 
>Just think if those "tabs" were LSD, Bryan...
 
Far out, I thought I always had a lot of tabs open... but not that
many.
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Jan 19 12:53PM -0800

On Wednesday, January 19, 2022 at 3:46:35 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
> >all 12 slots, so 24GB.
> I don't know if it makes a difference that the 24GB's divided over 12
> crazy 2GB slots, but normally 24 GB is more than you need.
 
It's one of these:
https://www.awn.com/vfxworld/hp-z800-workstation-review-first-look
http://www.hp.com/canada/products/landing/workstations/files/13278_na.pdf
 
> >My plan was to buy six 8GB, to have a total
> >of 60.
> You have no use for it.
 
You have no idea what I might do with it other than
this NG and putting pix on Flickr.
> >the time, there was a lot of it for sale, so prices were very low.
 
> >That's how I ended up with 96GB.
> You have no use for it.
 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/15522299@N08/50268552906/in/dateposted-public/
 
--Bryan
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Jan 19 12:55PM -0800

On Wednesday, January 19, 2022 at 2:45:45 PM UTC-6, Jeßus wrote:
 
> >Just think if those "tabs" were LSD, Bryan...
> Far out, I thought I always had a lot of tabs open... but not that
> many.
 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/15522299@N08/50267878903/in/album-72157715636772967/
 
--Bryan
Jeßus <j@j.net>: Jan 20 08:00AM +1100

On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 12:55:26 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
>> Far out, I thought I always had a lot of tabs open... but not that
>> many.
 
>https://www.flickr.com/photos/15522299@N08/50267878903/in/album-72157715636772967/
 
Sorry, but to me 205 open tabs is just silly. How can that be faster
to locate the right tab with that many open?
 
I have 2 instances of Firefox running with 29 tabs open (although 6
were just for youtube downloads, closed now).
 
One tab open in Brave
 
10 in Opera...
 
And that's it.
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>: Jan 20 08:03AM +1100

On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 12:53:04 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
>> You have no use for it.
 
>You have no idea what I might do with it other than
>this NG and putting pix on Flickr.
 
A bit of browsing, usenetting and emailing.
 
>> >That's how I ended up with 96GB.
>> You have no use for it.
 
>https://www.flickr.com/photos/15522299@N08/50268552906/in/dateposted-public/
 
You bought too much memory by mistake and you can't handle the idea of
wasting money, so you looked for a silly way to try and actually use
all that memory.
Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net>: Jan 19 02:58PM -0500

On 1/19/2022 10:12, Dave Smith wrote:
 
> Not just one hotel. It was in every hotel breakfast bar that I have
> stayed in over the last ten years where they had waffles. The waffles
> were more like cookies than the waffles I make. Even Eggos are better.
 
The style that I am talking about dispense batter from a machine, and
you make them fresh yourself (not a buffet pre-made waffle).
 
Picture - Something like this:
 
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg1ixZxLZ0G-K8MLrBlco4jjQxauFQSOUVvJYbO21qbd0cmS8GB9iwtFd-ZoEYt1qoCu-K-Sg6DvmesrfUnW_v7NncWHSmp9VWVIN0TpuyrR93-oVUfH9OUmLk8W0WhyphenhyphenBPiOYibqBKNKsk/s1600/iron.jpg
 
Picture - Finished product:
 
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5b/e8/08/5be80803f29be857db666f80faa10f64.jpg
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jan 19 12:18PM -0800

On Wednesday, January 19, 2022 at 9:58:12 AM UTC-10, Michael Trew wrote:
 
> https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg1ixZxLZ0G-K8MLrBlco4jjQxauFQSOUVvJYbO21qbd0cmS8GB9iwtFd-ZoEYt1qoCu-K-Sg6DvmesrfUnW_v7NncWHSmp9VWVIN0TpuyrR93-oVUfH9OUmLk8W0WhyphenhyphenBPiOYibqBKNKsk/s1600/iron.jpg
 
> Picture - Finished product:
 
> https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5b/e8/08/5be80803f29be857db666f80faa10f64.jpg
 
I have seen that setup. It's quite an exciting concept - make your own waffles! The resulting product was not good - heavy with a weird, granular, mouth feel. I'll never eat a waffle in a motel lobby breakfast nook again.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jan 19 03:59PM -0500

On 2022-01-19 2:58 p.m., Michael Trew wrote:
 
> https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg1ixZxLZ0G-K8MLrBlco4jjQxauFQSOUVvJYbO21qbd0cmS8GB9iwtFd-ZoEYt1qoCu-K-Sg6DvmesrfUnW_v7NncWHSmp9VWVIN0TpuyrR93-oVUfH9OUmLk8W0WhyphenhyphenBPiOYibqBKNKsk/s1600/iron.jpg
 
> Picture - Finished product:
 
> https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5b/e8/08/5be80803f29be857db666f80faa10f64.jpg
 
I am familiar with those things. I located a copy cat recipe for them.
For a batch of waffles they use 2 cups flour and 1/3 cup of sugar....
5/3 Tbsp. Compare that to a regular waffle recipe that uses only two
Tbsp sugar. That is getting close to three times as much sugar, so that
explains how it crosses the line to too damned sweet for me.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jan 19 04:03PM -0500

On 2022-01-19 3:18 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>> and you make them fresh yourself (not a buffet pre-made waffle).
 
>> Picture - Something like this:
 
>> https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg1ixZxLZ0G-K8MLrBlco4jjQxauFQSOUVvJYbO21qbd0cmS8GB9iwtFd-ZoEYt1qoCu-K-Sg6DvmesrfUnW_v7NncWHSmp9VWVIN0TpuyrR93-oVUfH9OUmLk8W0WhyphenhyphenBPiOYibqBKNKsk/s1600/iron.jpg
 
Picture - Finished product:
> own waffles! The resulting product was not good - heavy with a weird,
> granular, mouth feel. I'll never eat a waffle in a motel lobby
> breakfast nook again.
 
That's the sugar talking. I imagine that they use the sugar to get the
crispy texture. When I make waffles I get that by folding in egg whites.
You get an crispy texture but lighter feel. Of course, you can do that
at a serve yourself.
Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net>: Jan 19 03:26PM -0500

On 1/19/2022 7:03, dsi1 wrote:
 
>> Bake it, stir it all up then have a nice feast.
 
>> Same with dessert pies. Always a bottom crust but sometimes not a top crust.
 
> That's interesting. I've never thought of breaking the crust and stirring it all up. That's kind of weird - but it might be brilliant.
 
I do sometimes, depending on my mood. Tastes good to me, but eat it up
before the crust gets really soggy, because then it's like mushy
saltines in soup.
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