Sunday, April 9, 2023

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 8 topics

Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Apr 09 10:27AM -0400

jmcquown wrote:
> I truly don't think Gary likes women.
 
Think again. lol
 
> is the bikini's aren't white.  What?  What kind of prudishness is this?
 
> Bikini's have been around since before he was born.  What does he expect
> women to wear to the beach, Burkas?
 
I'll assume that maybe I don't make myself clear.
(although explaining later, you call backsliding)
 
Bras and panties cover the same body parts as a bikini does.
Walk into a room where a woman is getting dressed and only in bra and
panties and they might scream, " GET OUT!" and try to cover themselves.
 
Same girl on the beach out in skimpy bikini has no problem with her body
being seen by all.
 
You think I'm prudish? Hell no, I welcome any views of a good woman's body.
 
> And of course there is the whole
> anti-makeup thing.  As if every woman walks around slathered with
> unnatural looking makeup and red lipstick.
 
You're speculating again and taking it to the extreme as usual.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Apr 09 11:30AM -0400

On 2023-04-09 10:27 a.m., Gary wrote:
> panties and they might scream, " GET OUT!" and try to cover themselves.
 
> Same girl on the beach out in skimpy bikini has no problem with her body
> being seen by all.
 
It's a peculiar thing. They will go to a beach and dress in the
skimpiest things they can find to wear in front of strangers but they
would never wear them around their neighbours. The further they are are
home the more they will bare. They will go to nude beaches in foreign
countries but not at home.
 
 
FWIW, laws about women going topless were struck down by the courts as
unconstitutional. So now women can go topless in most places. Not many do.
 
 
> You think I'm prudish? Hell no, I welcome any views of a good woman's body.
 
People are funny. Women are as hypocritical on the matter as men are.
They want to be able to go topless in public and argue that breasts are
not sexual, that it is men who are sexualizing them, but.... if a guy
spends too much time looking at them he is accused of ogling and making
her feel uncomfortable. If he should touch them it is sexual assault,
not just assault but a sexual assault. I don't think that people should
be able to play it both ways.
 
 
 
 
 
 
>> And of course there is the whole anti-makeup thing.  As if every woman
>> walks around slathered with unnatural looking makeup and red lipstick.
 
> You're speculating again and taking it to the extreme as usual.
 
They should be credited for making themselves look good.... even if it
doesn't always look good.
GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Apr 09 08:21AM -0700

On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 6:36:23 AM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> 10 packs of corn tortillas.
 
> Also, today is my wife's and my 31st wedding anniversary. That
> is a happy thing.
 
 
Congrats...!!!
 
--
GM
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Apr 09 08:30AM -0700

On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 6:36:23 AM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> pound of shrimp. Both pintos and black beans, both pureed.
> I got two big cups of salsa verde from StL's best taqueria, and 6
> 10 packs of corn tortillas.
 
I hope they're bringing food as well. That is not going to feed 15-18
people unless your plan is only serve snacks.
 
> Also, today is my wife's and my 31st wedding anniversary. That
> is a happy thing.
 
> --Bryan
 
Congratulations on the anniverysary.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Apr 09 07:17AM -0400

On 4/9/2023 1:57 AM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> I just have to get up by Noon. If I see Cindy or Gary post tonight, I'm
> screwed. ;)
> Happy Easter!
 
Leo, you posted this at 2am (Eastern). I got up this morning at 2:30am. LOL
 
You stayed up late and, as always, I got up too early. OH well.
 
Happy Easter to you too.
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>: Apr 09 09:22PM +1000

>> screwed. ;)
>> Happy Easter!
 
>Leo, you posted this at 2am (Eastern). I got up this morning at 2:30am. LOL
 
How many hours do you sleep per day, on average?
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Apr 09 09:30AM -0400

On 2023-04-09 6:32 a.m., Gary wrote:
> Put ham in the oven in the evening, bring up to *some* temperature then
> turn off the oven and let cook overnight - just don't open the oven door
> until morning.
 
That sounds like a recipe for food poisoning.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Apr 09 08:28AM -0700

On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 8:30:48 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> > turn off the oven and let cook overnight - just don't open the oven door
> > until morning.
 
> That sounds like a recipe for food poisoning.
 
Thank you.
 
I guess he thinks that cooling oven is somehow going to reach the interior
of the ham and magically cook it. Ham is a dense food and bringing the meat
up to *some* temperature then turning off the oven and letting it 'cook' overnight
sounds like a good way of getting food poisoning.
songbird <songbird@anthive.com>: Apr 09 08:56AM -0400

Thomas wrote:
...
> Sorry you stopped. If you read the bible as claimed you would know.
> Since neither of us believe , being good will not get you to heaven since there is no such thing.
> Being good is just the right way to live.
 
i found for myself that i didn't need the threat of
hell to try to be a decent person. i am just too lazy
to lie or it takes too much energy to hate or be mean.
 
as for the Bible, Job is an interesting book. the
lecture God gives Job puts it all in perspective.
 
that me, a mere human could judge God, well ok at
least my head kinda works.
 
 
songbird
songbird <songbird@anthive.com>: Apr 09 08:53AM -0400

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
...
> You must have been a Methodist. The Catholics and Lutherans use
> real (if inferior) wine. I bet the Episcopalians do, too.
 
we got the real stuff, but i can't say i ever really
enjoyed it.
 
at age 12 on the way to catechism i told Mom i didn't
want to go any longer and to her credit she turned the
car around and we came back home. that was the last
said of that. from there i went on to read the Bible
through myself and then in college i got into the fundy
tribe and spent a lot more time studying it. an
evangelical baptist church ran yearly seminars that
went through the entire Bible. and beyond that i spent
more time comparing versions to each other and also
learned the differences between the various cults.
seven years of that, a lot of interesting stories and
then i decided it was all not for me. the change was
too much for many of my friends and i tried to explain
it but many did not listen.
 
everyone speaks of final straws that break the camel's
back or the epiphany, but for me was when i was attending
a wedding of some friends there and they read their vows
and the minister was reading his ceremony and i said to
myself that little of that sounded much like what i would
want to say to someone i cared about.
 
we run the full range of beliefs in my family but we
don't talk about them.
 
 
songbird
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Apr 09 09:18AM -0400

On 2023-04-09 5:14 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2023-04-09, Gary <g.majors@att.net> wrote:
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>> instead of grape juice.
 
> You must have been a Methodist. The Catholics and Lutherans use
> real (if inferior) wine. I bet the Episcopalians do, too.
 
Up here they are called Anglican and they do indeed use real wine.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Apr 09 09:25AM -0400

On 4/7/2023 10:41 PM, Ed P wrote:
>> to hell, it's not because we weren't sinners, but because God is so
>> good and forgiving.
 
> If no one sinned, Jesus would have died for nothing.
 
The poor fellow was tortured and died for nothing anyway.
 
What a blasphemous thing for me to say on Easter Sunday, of all days. ;o
 
John 3:16 is probably the most well-known Bible verse: "For God so loved
the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever believeth in
him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
 
Get real. If God so loved the world, why condemn all humanity for the
sin of Adam and Eve? That makes no sense to me at all and I've never
heard a valid answer to that question.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Apr 09 09:34AM -0400

On 2023-04-09 8:32 a.m., songbird wrote:
> "changeable within five minutes" basis.
 
> we commented the other day that we may have to mow
> this month. i hate mowing. oh well life goeth on...
 
I had a leak in one of the tires of my lawn tractor. I nursed it through
the end of the season and put the tractor away for the winter with a
mental note to get the tire off and into the shop for
repair/replacement. I did that two weeks ago and was not in a hurry to
get it back. Now it's looking like I should give them a call and speed
up the repair. I am going to need it soon.
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Apr 09 06:40AM -0700

On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 8:15:10 AM UTC-5, songbird wrote:
> inside at all. spring peepers (froggies) were calling.
> i always like hearing them. they got a good wake-up
> call several days ago with some heavy rains.
 
Two word, *eye gnats*. Know why they're called eye
gnats? They are attracted to eye secretions.
 
--Bryan
Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com>: Apr 09 01:58PM

>> is some sort of sick joke and it'll be cold and rainy sometime in there.
 
> yes, i keep all weather forecasts in mind as on a
> "changeable within five minutes" basis.
 
And already they've made a mockery of my joy. Thunderstorms a
week from today.
 
> we commented the other day that we may have to mow
> this month. i hate mowing. oh well life goeth on...
 
Ann Arbor is allowing people to refrain from mowing their lawns for the
month of May, to benefit pollinators. My yard is crappy enough that
stuff blooms whether I mow or not. And I don't live in the city.
 
I tried mowing only part of my lawn last May, but the unmown portion
got so tall that even my 16-hp mower had a hard time when I finally
mowed it. Maybe I'll do every other week for the "back 40".
 
--
Cindy Hamilton
S Viemeister <firstname@lastname.oc.ku>: Apr 09 03:38PM +0100

On 09/04/2023 14:58, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
 
> I tried mowing only part of my lawn last May, but the unmown portion
> got so tall that even my 16-hp mower had a hard time when I finally
> mowed it. Maybe I'll do every other week for the "back 40".
 
When mine got really high, I used a scythe. Now Himself uses a
commercial-type unit which can be fitted with a brush-cutter blade or a
heavy duty string trimmer.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Apr 09 11:20AM -0400

On 2023-04-09 9:58 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> I tried mowing only part of my lawn last May, but the unmown portion
> got so tall that even my 16-hp mower had a hard time when I finally
> mowed it. Maybe I'll do every other week for the "back 40".
 
The soil in my yard is very rich and the grass grows quickly by the end
of April and into May and June. I usually have to mow at twice a week
There are 5 sections of lawn and those at the front and back get the
most attention. If I don't mow frequently I get huge windrows of
clippings and it looks like crap. It is too big to rake. I can let the
parts by the barn and behind the stream grow longer.
 
I know that people think we should let the dandelions grow to feed the
bees but there is a down side to that. It is hard enough to keep whose
things under control. but if you let them go to feed the bees they get
pollinated and then there are even more to deal with later.
 
FWIW my neighbour has beehives. He has 9 acres that he can allow to go
to weed. I have flower gardens they are welcome to feed on.
Michael Mauldin <maul@mauler.none>: Apr 09 05:54AM -0400

Michael Trew wrote:
>> best in moderation if you're on the keto diet.
 
> Keto is horrible for your body, and most people gain the weight right
> back once they get off of it.
 
Is that how you grew those chins?
Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net>: Apr 09 02:43PM

On 2023-04-09, Michael Trew wrote:
 
> I've never heard of this NJ tomato thing before,
> but I imagine it's more than just the soil...
 
They have better Mexicans available.
It's the big problem too in Quebec.
songbird <songbird@anthive.com>: Apr 09 09:09AM -0400

Michael Trew wrote:
...
> it takes about 5 minutes to cook up in a kettle. I've never bought
> instant before, either. I don't see a point in that; it would take just
> as long to boil the water.
 
i cook mine about 10 minutes total. it takes two minutes to
get them to a boil and then i turn down the microwave to power
level 2 for 8 minutes and 11 seconds. the 11 seconds means it
rotates the mug to just the right position for me to grab it.
 
if i don't cook the oats enough they can kinda tear up my
digestive system, but fully cooked they are ok.
 
at one time i would eat oats raw by chewing them and then
wash them down with milk for breakfast. now i make sure no
chaff gets by inspection.
 
 
songbird
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Apr 09 07:06AM -0700

On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 8:15:16 AM UTC-5, songbird wrote:
 
> at one time i would eat oats raw by chewing them and then
> wash them down with milk for breakfast. now i make sure no
> chaff gets by inspection.
 
Rolled oats aren't raw. They're just minimally cooked. Quick
oats are more thoroughly cooked.
 
--Bryan
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Apr 09 06:58AM -0700

On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 7:55:41 AM UTC-5, % wrote:
> > I hope that he's dead
 
> > --Bryan
 
> Shocking!
 
I'm sure that you were jesting, and what you were really
meaning was *boring*, but that's OK. At least I'm consistent.
 
--Bryan
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Apr 09 09:29AM -0400

On 2023-04-09 5:31 a.m., Gary wrote:
> Wrong for the stores not to open more checkout lanes when busy.
> Equally wrong for you to just abandon your cart and walk out, especially
> with cold/frozen food that will be ruined.
 
You won't make me feel bad about it. The ice cream was already melting.
After the time I spent shopping and the ridiculous amount of time I
spend waiting in line I was not going to waste even more of my time to
return everything.
 
FWIW, it was the grocery division of a department store I had worked in
and they had the same problems with long checkout lines. There were a
lot of check out counters but most of them sat empty. I always figured
that as long as a cashier was checking out merchandise they were
harvesting money for the company. If they had twice as many cashiers
and they only had one or two people in their lines they were still
paying their way. Customers who have to wait a long time to check out
go elsewhere.
 
Stores rely on traffic patterns. Most of their staff are part time and
are scheduled to work the known peak times.
 
I most of our meats from two small family run groceries. At one of them
there are 5 checkouts and usually at least three of them are manned. If
there are more than a few people in line they bring someone up to open
another. The other has only three checkouts. A lot of the time there is
only one open, but as soon as it gets busy they open the second, and if
there is still a line they open the third. It's a small place and
sometimes there are a dozen people in line, but the line moved quickly.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
> Finally - just shop early. Never many people, full parking lots or long
> lines.
 
Some people have to work.
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Apr 09 06:49AM -0700

On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 4:13:34 PM UTC-5, Ed P wrote:
 
> > --Bryan
> So punish some low paid worker for what corporate did. May you enjoy
> some karma.
 
The workers get paid by the hour. They don't get to do
nothing when there is no re-shop. I work in retail. That's
how I know. The workers don't have to work harder. The
business has to either schedule more hours (maybe
that actually *helps* the workers), or have the store look
worse. You've probably never worked in retail, or you
would know all that. There are worse things one could
do to a business, but those are things that you could
possibly get in trouble for. Fuck you and your stupid
"karma," old man. Only ignorant fools actually believe
in karma.
 
--Bryan
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Apr 09 06:53AM -0700

On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 8:12:55 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
 
> > --Bryan
> What does that prove -- Other than, to the hourly workers -- that you're
> a jerk?
 
If the hourly workers aren't working re-shop, they're doing
other work. Maybe you stand around and do nothing at the
junk store, but most retail, especially corporate retail, isn't
like that.
 
--Bryan
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