- Dinner tonight.... 2017/04/30 - 4 Updates
- artichoke + wine? - 2 Updates
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- Dinner Last Night and Tonight (was: Why Sheldon can't post simple links) - 6 Updates
- O. T. --- Victorian Slum House - 7 Updates
| Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: May 04 07:12AM -0700 On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 7:59:12 PM UTC-4, Jill McQuown wrote: > often strawberries are involved. Pies. If rhubarb needs all that > stuff, is it really all that great? I'll never find out. YMMV. :) > Jill History. Rhubarb appears before any fruit is ripe. People were jonesing for fruit. Sweetened rhubarb filled that desire. It is very sour. I liked to eat it plain when I was a kid. I'm not all that crazy about rhubarb pie, compote, pudding, etc. nowadays. Cindy Hamilton |
| Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>: May 05 02:25AM +1000 On Thu, 4 May 2017 08:30:11 -0400, Dave Smith >> How much sugar and how much rhubarb did go in? >I use enough chopped rhubarb to fill the pie pan and 3/4 cup of sugar, >the same amount I would use for peaches or cherries. That's a lot of sugar, but at least sounds less than the rhubarb. |
| penmart01@aol.com: May 04 01:23PM -0400 On Fri, 05 May 2017 02:25:19 +1000, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>I use enough chopped rhubarb to fill the pie pan and 3/4 cup of sugar, >>the same amount I would use for peaches or cherries. >That's a lot of sugar, but at least sounds less than the rhubarb. Most pies contain a lot of sugar... if you don't want to consume a lot of sugar don't eat pie. One way to cut down on sugar intake is to replace all or some of the granulated sugar with honey... by weight honey has twice the sweetening power of granulated sugar. You'd probably need to experiment to your taste. http://www.eatingwell.com/recipe/250506/honey-sweetened-cherry-pie/ --- Grape Pie (Welch's) 4 Cups Concord grapes 3/4 C granulated sugar 1 1/2 TBS. lemon juice 1-2 TBS. quick tapioca Slip grapes from skins. Save skins. Cook pulp until seeds loosen. Press through sieve. Mix pulp, skins and remaining ingredients. Let stand 5-10 minutes. Pour into UNBAKED pie shell, top with second crust and bake. Pie will be done when it is bubbling in the center (takes 45-60 minutes to bake). (Special notes: Start pie at 400 degrees for 10 minutes. Reduce heat to 350. Vent top crust well since this pie tends to bubble over because of the high sugar content. You may want to put a piece of aluminum foil in the bottom of the oven to catch any spills.) Concord Grape Pie (anon) pastry for single crust pie 1 1/2 lbs. concord grapes (4 cups) 3/4 cup sugar 1/3 cup all purpose flour 1/4 t. salt 2 T. butter or margarine melted 1 T. lemon juice 1/2 cup all purpose flour 1/2 cup sugar 1/4 cup butter or margarine Prepare and roll out pastry into a 12 inch circle. Line a 9 inch pie plate and flute edge. Do not prick pastry. Slip skins from grapes and set skins aside. In saucepan bring grape pulp to a boil. Reduce the heat and simmer for 5 minutes. Sieve to remove seeds. Add skins to pulp. Combine 3/4 cup sugar, 1/3 cup flour, and the salt. Stir in the butter, lemon juice and grape mixture. Pour into pastry shell. To prevent over browning cover edge of pie with tinfoil. Bake in 375 degrees for 20 -25 minutes. Mean while combine 1/2 cup flour and 1/2 cup sugar. Cut in 1/4 cup butter until crumbly. Remove foil from pie. Sprinkle crumbs mixture over pie. Bake about 25 minutes more. --- |
| Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright@xgmail.com>: May 04 06:18PM On Thu 04 May 2017 06:39:45a, Janet told us... >> sugar, the same amount I would use for peaches or cherries. > That's a lot more sugar than I'd use. Heaped tablespoon amx. > Janet UK That must be either a very small pie or a very sour pie. :-) I'm guessing that you probably use that small amount of sugar in your other fruit pies as well, because you prefer all of them that way. Nothing wrong with that. -- ~~ If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. ~~ ~~ A mind is a terrible thing to lose. ~~ ********************************************************** Wayne Boatwright |
| "l not -l" <lallin@cujo.com>: May 04 04:09PM > Just as we take it on faith that you like McDonald's food when > it tastes pretty bad to us. > Cindy Hamilton Maybe McDonalds food would taste pretty good if one had wine with it. I dimly recall that, as a student, in the early-70s, Boone's Farm and Ripple went well with White Castle's at 3am. 8-) -- Change Cujo to Juno for email. The most important advice I ever received: "Do What You're Doing While You're Doing It" |
| Sqwertz <swertz@cluemail.compost>: May 04 01:16PM -0500 >>Your Googlin' skills need some work. "Subway restaurant" will get you the Wikipedia article on the chain as the first non-sponsored listing. You probably just searched for "subway." This would be as useful as searching for "restaurant" i.e., not useful at all. > I did search <subway restaurant>, brings up the same wiki URL for > trains. Then your AOL search is broken. Try using a NORMAL search engine. -sw |
| penmart01@aol.com: May 04 10:17AM -0400 On Thu, 4 May 2017 10:07:49 -0400, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote: >I drink wine. I love artichokes. I don't drink wine while eating >artichokes. :) >Jill 'Zactly... why wash away all that delicate artichoke flavor... wine before or after, not during. Eating artichoke with wine is the same as eating a steak with sips of listerine after each bite. |
| jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: May 04 10:07AM -0400 On 5/3/2017 6:39 PM, Gary wrote: >> I figure there must be a few winos in this group - > That's my take on it all. Can you not just enjoy an artichoke on it's > own. Need to have wine with it? I just don't get it. I drink wine. I love artichokes. I don't drink wine while eating artichokes. :) Jill |
| jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: May 04 10:48AM -0400 > 'Zactly... why wash away all that delicate artichoke flavor... wine > before or after, not during. Eating artichoke with wine is the same > as eating a steak with sips of listerine after each bite. Artichokes have a nicely sweet (but not sugary sweet) taste. Delicate, as you say. I remember the first time I ate an artichoke. I was 9 years old. Mom bought a bunch of them and I guess she steamed them. After dinner there was one left over. I took it outside and showed it to my friends, who also hadn't ever seen one before. I said here's how you eat one: scrape the "meat" off the leaf with your teeth. Try it! (They did.) And when you get down to the choke, remove this fuzzy stuff and eat the rest. Thus I introduced the artichoke to some equally young friends. :) I sometimes buy canned or jarred artichoke *bottoms* just to snack on. Drizzled with melted butter. I find artichoke bottoms to be much more "meaty" than the hearts which still have some of the smaller leaves attached. Still no wine involved. Jill |
| sanne <susanne.regerriedel@googlemail.com>: May 04 08:09AM -0700 Am Donnerstag, 4. Mai 2017 16:48:46 UTC+2 schrieb Jill McQuown: > Drizzled with melted butter. I find artichoke bottoms to be much more > "meaty" than the hearts which still have some of the smaller leaves > attached. Still no wine involved. When/if you get some artichokes with the stems still attached: Peel the stems and treat them as you would the other parts; they are as tender and delicious as the bottoms. Bye, Sanne. |
| jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: May 04 11:44AM -0400 On 5/4/2017 11:09 AM, sanne wrote: > Peel the stems and treat them as you would the other parts; they are as > tender and delicious as the bottoms. > Bye, Sanne. Of course! I rarely find them with much of the stem attached but no need to discard the stem. :) Jill |
| Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright@xgmail.com>: May 04 06:15PM On Thu 04 May 2017 07:07:49a, jmcquown told us... > I drink wine. I love artichokes. I don't drink wine while eating > artichokes. :) > Jill And obviously some people eat artichokes that are served with a wine- butter reduction sauce. Many restaurants serve them that way, and they're quite tasty. There are no rules, only preferences. Personally, I can certainly enjoy them either way. I could care less what other poeple do. -- ~~ If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. ~~ ~~ A mind is a terrible thing to lose. ~~ ********************************************************** Wayne Boatwright |
| "Ophelia" <OphElsinore@gmail.com>: May 04 03:32PM +0100 "Janet" wrote in message news:MPG.3375376e5fb561c425@news.individual.net... In article <efdlgch9odsqvm7126e14223ec9bf28mn0@4ax.com>, Bruce@invalid.invalid says... > >probably just searched for "subway." This would be as useful as searching > >for "restaurant" i.e., not useful at all. > You completely misunderstood the issue. Try to remember, "Bruce", that so did you, back in the days when you were Ophelia's special pet/troll support project. Janet UK == Awww were you jealous when he was my friend ... awwwwwwwwwwwwwww diddums ... LOL!!!!!! I noticed you were trying to get around him when you told him he was in my kilfile:)))) He wasn't <g> -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
| penmart01@aol.com: May 04 10:08AM -0400 On Wed, 3 May 2017 21:24:51 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote: >> click on the restaurant URL... so how would all the noobies here >> know... >Your Googlin' skills need some work. "Subway restaurant" will get you the Wikipedia article on the chain as the first non-sponsored listing. You probably just searched for "subway." This would be as useful as searching for "restaurant" i.e., not useful at all. I did search <subway restaurant>, brings up the same wiki URL for trains. |
| Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>: May 05 02:28AM +1000 >> You completely misunderstood the issue. > Try to remember, "Bruce", that so did you, back in the days when you >were Ophelia's special pet/troll support project. His misunderstanding the issue has nothing to do with Ophelia, "Janet". |
| "The Greatest!" <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: May 04 09:52AM -0700 Roy wrote: > hours at 275 or 300 degrees F. would probably work as well with moist heat. > Can't see most people wanting to fuss over sous vide stuff for long. > ===== Well, Steve has a lot of "time" on his hands, for him watching a piece of shoe leather slowly cook for 32 hours is a fascinating pastime...when he cooks fish he avidly stares at it swim in his aquarium for several days before he cooks it. -- Best Greg |
| "The Greatest!" <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: May 04 09:56AM -0700 Sheldon wrote: > >Looks as good as a high priced prime rib. > It looks like very dry poached beef... not anything I'd want to eat. > Chuck is far better grilled on med high. Steve needs to watch "Queer Eye for the Str8 Guy", that presentation is awfully boring...those beans need to be lined up all parallel to each other...and some sprinkles of color would enhance the presentation. If he improves Steve could even have his own vittles styling bizness...or even a teevee show...!!! -- Best Greg |
| dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com>: May 04 10:33AM -0700 On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 4:08:30 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote: > I did search <subway restaurant>, brings up the same wiki URL for > trains. "Subway IP Inc., (doing business as Subway) is a privately held American fast food restaurant franchise that primarily sells submarine sandwiches (subs) and salads. It is owned and operated by Doctor's Associates, Inc., doing business as Subway IP, Inc. Subway is one of the fastest-growing franchises in the world, with 44,882 restaurants in 112 countries and territories as of December 27, 2016. The United States alone has 26,646 outlets.[1] It is the largest single-brand restaurant chain and the largest restaurant operator in the world." What's the big deal? You must be using Bing. |
| "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: May 03 08:40PM -0700 On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 10:25:59 PM UTC-5, Sky wrote: > satellite, etc.). Perhaps the show is readily accessible via PBS's > website, too? > Sky I do enjoy my DVR, too, although it's not connected to the internet so I'm not able to 'watch on demand.' But my local PBS station does repeat their prime-time programs in the wee hours of the morning and later in the week, also. Check out PBS to see if you can watch it online. |
| dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com>: May 03 09:16PM -0700 On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 5:25:59 PM UTC-10, Sky wrote: > Kitchen Rule #1 - Use the timer! > Kitchen Rule #2 - Cook's choice! > ================================ You should be able to stream it from the PBS website, at least, I can. It looks like a most unpleasant show! |
| jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: May 04 11:17AM -0400 > said, no healthcare and welfare; you were pretty much on your own. > What I found so hard to believe was the price of shelter and they > were in essentially a dump. Joan (and Nancy2), do you remember the PBS series '1900 House'? That featured a family selected to live like a typical middle class family in a refurbished Victorian rowhouse. Fascinating stuff. Of course you can't keep out the modern aspects of what is going on around them. But they strive for authenticity as much as possible. I loved the Pioneer House series, too. :) > Doesn't the idea of eating meats smoked in the outhouse sound yummy? > The next episode is to be set in the 1870's and from the preview > there is a bit of squabbling already. I didn't get to see it on TV last night. I checked and 'Victorian Slum House' is available for viewing on one of my local PBS web sites. :) I'll be watching the first episode online today and will try to catch the next one on TV next week. Jill |
| jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: May 04 11:35AM -0400 > season of the previous shows such as "Pioneer House" and > hopefully it will be as interesting and entertaining as the > previous shows. I missed it last night. I checked and I am able to watch that episode online. :) I'll do that today, then try to remember to watch the next episode on television next week. I watch a lot of PBS programming but never saw this one advertised. Then again, I get two different PBS stations, one out of Georgia and the other South Carolina. Sometimes they show the same things, but not always. This is nice to know about, thanks! Jill |
| "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: May 04 08:48AM -0700 On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 10:17:37 AM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote: > can't keep out the modern aspects of what is going on around them. But > they strive for authenticity as much as possible. > I loved the Pioneer House series, too. :) Yes, I watched both and the Pioneer House participants, the main family, were quite annoying and whiny. You could definitely tell who wore the pants in that family! > I'll be watching the first episode online today and will try to catch > the next one on TV next week. > Jill I thought it was rather interesting and am looking forward to the next episode. |
| "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: May 04 08:52AM -0700 On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 10:35:15 AM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote: > other South Carolina. Sometimes they show the same things, but not always. > This is nice to know about, thanks! > Jill They did advertise it on my local PBS station but not heavily. I'd almost forgotten about it until I saw a blurb while watching PBS Sunday night. I get two PBS stations as well and other one is from a city about 100 miles east of me. They have almost the same programs but I catch things on the far away station that are not broadcast on mine. |
| "The Greatest!" <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: May 04 10:16AM -0700 On Wednesday, 3 May 2017 17:15:44 UTC-5, Nancy2 wrote: > And the accents were difficult for me to understand at times. > Like I said, a silly unrealistic portrayal. I don't know how they expect this to accurately > portray the period and the slum-dwellers. It seemed not to get all the hoopla of the earlier "xxxx House" shows... I could see where Marx' initial philosophy was formed, e.g. that the world was formerly feudal, now it was in a capitalist stage, and eventually socialism/communism would be the penultimate stage of human development... Slowly, the lot of these common people would improve, and more people would be lifted out of that dire poverty. Eventually, reforms such as labor laws, unionization, minimum wages, social security, pensions, health insurance and the like would be commonplace in most of the developed world by the 1950's. Wilhelmine Germany actually led the way in these reforms around the turn of the 19th into the 20th century... Marx predicted that "The Revolution" would first occur in the advanced capitalist states, especially Germany and Britain. Instead, the Bolshevik Revolution occurred in 1917 Russia - where the vast majority of the population lived at, or even below, what we saw on this TV show. The Soviets still held this view of old - fashioned brutal Victorian capitalism into the 1950's. When Soviet leaders starting visiting the West - especially Khrushchev - they saw that ordinary workers had cars, homes, a decent standard of life, good food, much abundance was available to the "common man". When Khrushchev and others first encountered things like an American auto plant, he was shocked, saying, "Whose cars are these parked around the plant? You can't have this many managers!" He was flabbergasted when told that they were the worker's cars, an auto worker in the West could afford to buy the products that they built - this was not true in the USSR, where only the managers could have cars. Anyways, history lecture over for now... -- Best Greg |
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