Tuesday, June 18, 2019

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"Ophelia" <OphElsnore@gmail.com>: Jun 18 01:25PM +0100

"Jinx the Minx" wrote in message news:qe9u9a$shj$1@dont-email.me...
 
> custody but had to pay a fortune to his wife for child support because
> she had to be able to take them to golf clubs, tennis clubs and all
> those other frills that she had been accustomed to.
 
That's the thing most people don't understand about child support. It's
supposed to provide as stable of a transition as possible for the CHILD. If
the child is accustomed to golf and tennis clubs, then they are entitled to
live the same lifestyle after divorce, not bare bones basic needs. Most
people don't understand that concept and view it as the receiving parent
living high off the hog or taking advantage of the paying spouse. The
amount parents (male or female) are required to pay is generally calculated
as a set percentage of income, and both parents' salaries are taken into
consideration, not just one. So if you make 6 figures and your ex makes 5,
you're going to have to pay a lot to ensure your children can continue to
live as they did while married.
 
====
 
Exactly as it should be! Why should the children be punished when it
is the parents that are at war.
"Ophelia" <OphElsnore@gmail.com>: Jun 18 01:24PM +0100

"Jinx the Minx" wrote in message news:qe8s88$22i$1@dont-email.me...
 
 
> Awww why would he not be disappointed if his son didn't call him on
> Father's day:( I can understand that.
 
> Oh and why would he call his son on that special day?
 
I'll play unpopular devil's advocate here. If our adult children refuse to
acknowledge us as parents on a day set aside for such an "honor", what does
that say about us as a parent? Perhaps the problem isn't the wayward child
but the wayward parent, in which case, I should hope that "disappointed"
parent takes a moment to reflect on the situation, and how to change that
situation going forward. Biology alone doesn't make a parent. It's a
harsh statement, but oftentimes the truth.
 
====
 
I could never disagree with that!
lucretiaborgia@fl.it: Jun 18 09:26AM -0300

On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 21:27:38 +1000, Bruce <bruce@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
 
 
>Men often get shafted when it comes to contact with the children after
>a divorce. Deadbeat men are assholes, but women can be controlling
>bitches.
 
Your true side is showing now. She did allow them to go with him on
weekends but it always wound up on Sunday night with her son calling
to say she would have to drive over and get them because 'Dad didn't
have any money for gas' - many moons later I mentioned that to my
granddaughter and she told me she was smacked by him because he showed
her there was no money in his pocket and she had said 'but you have
plenty in your wallet' !
 
He also played nasty tricks, I purchased their jeans for school in
September (to help my daughter out) and the first weekend they were
there with him he cut the legs off to make shorts because it was warm,
it never seemed to bother him that the people he hurt the most, in the
end, was the kids.
lucretiaborgia@fl.it: Jun 18 09:31AM -0300

>any so I just dealt with it. It's always about the poor women,
>never a thought about the men in the same situation. Society is
>still very biased.
 
You are not allowing for the fact that stats show that women, still to
this day, make less money for the same jobs so the going is harder. My
daughter made it through with help from us and later in her own right
but it sure made it more tough on the kids. They understand now and
have a low opinion of their dead father and rightly so.
 
It can be so different with joint custody and two people who will
remain working together for the benefit of the kids they created
instead of using them as weapons. Suffice to say, his brother my
grandchildrens uncle always comes to family do's, we don't talk about
his brother but he feels negatively about him too.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 18 09:06AM -0400

Ophelia wrote:
 
> ====
 
> Exactly as it should be! Why should the children be punished when it
> is the parents that are at war.
 
I disagree. When in a tragic divorce with children, all need to
make sacrifices. No one will continue to live as they did.
Children adapt well to changes just as much as the adults. My
daughter did and she turned out fine.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 18 09:06AM -0400

Ophelia wrote:
> harsh statement, but oftentimes the truth.
 
> ====
 
> I could never disagree with that!
 
My stepdaugher still considers me her dad. I like that.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 18 09:12AM -0400


> You are not allowing for the fact that stats show that women, still to
> this day, make less money for the same jobs so the going is harder.
 
You are showing the typical society bias. Men can make more money
so they don't need any child support. The women can just run off
free with no responsibilities but men that do that are rats. I
made many sacrifices in order to pay it all myself. I don't
regret what I did but it was necessary.
 
Even a little help would have been nice. I got none. Maybe quit
being such a feminist and consider both sides of the coin. It
works both ways, at least to a degree.
 
As a mother, how would you see it if your married son got
divorced, kept the kids, and no child support at all from his ex?
Is that ok, in your mind? If women want so bad to be equal, make
it equal.
lucretiaborgia@fl.it: Jun 18 10:45AM -0300


>> You are not allowing for the fact that stats show that women, still to
>> this day, make less money for the same jobs so the going is harder.
 
>You are showing the typical society bias. Men can make more money
 
NO that is not what I meant at all. My daughter worked her butt off
but the man at the next desk did less but was paid more.
 
>free with no responsibilities but men that do that are rats. I
>made many sacrifices in order to pay it all myself. I don't
>regret what I did but it was necessary.
 
No I never suggested women who leave their kids should have a
different set of rules, they are fewer than men, but all the same
things apply.
>divorced, kept the kids, and no child support at all from his ex?
>Is that ok, in your mind? If women want so bad to be equal, make
>it equal.
 
When my son divorced I made bloody sure he paid appropriately for his
daughter, both she and her mother could tell you that!!
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jun 18 10:14AM -0400

On 2019-06-18 1:53 a.m., Jinx the Minx wrote:
> supposed to provide as stable of a transition as possible for the CHILD. If
> the child is accustomed to golf and tennis clubs, then they are entitled to
> live the same lifestyle after divorce, not bare bones basic needs.
 
 
Then maybe the custody should have gone to the person who was providing
the money to pay for those things instead of defaulting to the mother
who is more interested in hanging out at the clubs than raising the
children.
 
 
 
Most
> consideration, not just one. So if you make 6 figures and your ex makes 5,
> you're going to have to pay a lot to ensure your children can continue to
> live as they did while married.
 
I should have added that this support was in addition to the substantial
alimony. I am not sure, in this day and age, why an ex is obligated to
support their former partner. They do it throughout their relationship,
but IMO when the relationship is over the financial support should end
too. I also wonder about "palimony" that is awarded when people leave
long term common law relationships. If people choose to live together
without the formalities and obligations of marriage they should not
expect those benefits to extend to them.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 18 10:23AM -0400


> When my son divorced I made bloody sure he paid appropriately for his
> daughter, both she and her mother could tell you that!!
 
But what if your son had kept the daughter and raised her by
himself? Equal support from the ex-wife? Remember, you do want
equality, right? Would you have made sure that she paid him
appropriately? I hope so if you are really an equality advocate.
Jinx the Minx <jinxminx2@yahoo.com>: Jun 18 03:01PM


>> ====
 
>> I could never disagree with that!
 
> My stepdaugher still considers me her dad. I like that.
 
That's awesome, Gary! BTW, have you seen the newest Budweiser commercial
paying homage to stepdads on Father's Day? It'll bring tears to your eyes.
Jinx the Minx <jinxminx2@yahoo.com>: Jun 18 03:01PM


I never understand these people that think all of a sudden kids shouldn't
get to go on vacation, or to restaurants, or live in a home that provides
them their own bedroom. And my personal favorite, if the receiving parent
buys a new car, they must be buying it with all that child support (not
their own money), and not for the benefit of the kids that need reliable,
safe transportation to school, to daycare so the parent can work, etc.
Jinx the Minx <jinxminx2@yahoo.com>: Jun 18 03:01PM

> long term common law relationships. If people choose to live together
> without the formalities and obligations of marriage they should not
> expect those benefits to extend to them.
 
I'll tell you, if a woman puts her career on hold, or otherwise never had
extended education and little work experience because she stayed at home to
be homemaker, divorce can be financially devastating. Alimony isn't a
forever thing—it's meant to bridge that gap between being mostly
unemployable outside the home to finding sustaining employment or education
to get better employed. Alimony is rarely ordered by the courts, and is
generally limited to situations wherein there is an extraordinary gap
between his and hers incomes. Child support isn't alimony, and alimony
isn't child support.
 
Further, if the courts awarded custody to the parent with the lesser
income, then there was clearly evidence to not award custody to the
"richer" parent. Perhaps that rich dad you speak of travelled often, or
was a playboy, or had addiction issues, or simply wanted the freedom that
comes with no children, no wife, and excessive income.
Jinx the Minx <jinxminx2@yahoo.com>: Jun 18 03:01PM

> make sacrifices. No one will continue to live as they did.
> Children adapt well to changes just as much as the adults. My
> daughter did and she turned out fine.
 
That's very true Gary, but there isn't a need to throw a privileged kid
into a life barely subsisting above poverty when the non-custodial parent
can clearly afford to not make that happen. That is the point. That's what
the courts try to ensure when they step in and order these "huge" child
support settlements. They are equalizing the financial playing field for
the benefit of the child.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 18 08:37AM -0400


> Wow that last sentence amazes me, thought you felt he was wonderful!
> In actuality he has the rest of the world laughing at the US now and a
> crash is definitely coming.
 
I agree with you. Trump is so not presidential and an
embarrassment often. Oddest Pres in my lifetime.
 
You probably think I support him because I don't like how he's
been constantly picked on by the opposition. That's not right.
You think Trump embarrasses himself, equally embarrassing is how
many Democrats don't support him and this constant witch hunt the
entire time. It's gone insane. What poor losers they are. The USA
should at least show a solid front to the rest of the world.
 
Trump is not so good but Nancy P. is definitely the "wicked witch
of the west." And it's all down to a feud between those two.
 
Hopefully, in 2020, both Trump and Nancy will be kicked out of
office.
Biden seems to be a good challenge. Even the "fake news" like
him.
If Hillary shows up again, Trump will be re-elected.
 
So many times in the USA, voting is not about who you like but
who you dislike the most. The lesser of two evils. :)
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 18 06:13AM -0700

On Tuesday, June 18, 2019 at 8:38:39 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> many Democrats don't support him and this constant witch hunt the
> entire time. It's gone insane. What poor losers they are. The USA
> should at least show a solid front to the rest of the world.
 
You think we should defend the indefensible because of appearances?
Let Trump sell us to Russia because it would look bad to disagree?
Not complain about his senseless trade war because we don't want
to look like sore losers?
 
To quote General Anthony McAuliffe: Nuts.

> Trump is not so good but Nancy P. is definitely the "wicked witch
> of the west." And it's all down to a feud between those two.
 
That won't wash. Trump was an embarrassment when both the House and
the Senate were held by the GOP.

Cindy Hamilton
lucretiaborgia@fl.it: Jun 18 10:26AM -0300

>many Democrats don't support him and this constant witch hunt the
>entire time. It's gone insane. What poor losers they are. The USA
>should at least show a solid front to the rest of the world.
 
Why would the Dems support him??? As for witch hunts, have you
forgotten the Repugs and Clinton, they finally agreed to drop the
stupid law suit after he was through as President.
>If Hillary shows up again, Trump will be re-elected.
 
>So many times in the USA, voting is not about who you like but
>who you dislike the most. The lesser of two evils. :)
 
I really believe now that Trump has some mental disabilities and he is
dangerous, his stupid statements re. Iran are very inflammatory.
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jun 18 07:49AM -0700

> >who you dislike the most. The lesser of two evils. :)
 
> I really believe now that Trump has some mental disabilities and he is
> dangerous, his stupid statements re. Iran are very inflammatory.
 
Wow!! THIS Thread quickly degenerated into CRAP! ;-)
 
John Kuthe...
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 18 09:45AM -0400

Well my pea soup recipe always claimed "makes about a gallon"
 
I finally made another batch 2 days ago. This time I portioned it
all out before eating any. It made exactly 7 pints. Just one pint
shy of a gallon. 303 calories per pint and 18% fat calories. A
good diet dinner. Add one slice of buttered bread and it's a
wrap.
 
I ate one pint that day (sunday) and will have another today
(tuesday). The other 5 pints are now cold and will go into the
freezer today for future meals.
 
Yesterday, I had 2 Johnsonville cheddar sausage dogs on fresh
soft buns. Been a long time. Good eats. No condiments on those,
just sausage dog and bun. yum
 
Still more: the other day I unfroze a pint of homemade chicken
noodle soup. This time I added in about 2 tablespoons of
chili-garlic sauce. The asian brand with the rooster on the
label. That certainly added a nice tang to it.
 
And then there are my favorite ginger snaps. It's Stauffer's
brand. Very crisp and very spicy. 30 calories each and makes a
nice late night snack when you're not really hungry but the taste
buds need a treat. Just 2 of them do the job. Good for a diet.
 
An odd thing I experimented and discovered last week. Just a thin
smear of peanut butter on the flat back side really does enhance
them. The PB is a nice compliment to the ginger taste. Adds more
calories though.
A Moose in Love <parkstreetbooboo@gmail.com>: Jun 18 06:30AM -0700


> Ok. Then there's no excuse for you to not use your shift key for a capital
> letter. And using that shift key should not slow you down at all. You've
> become lazy.
 
Fine. I'll capitalize from now on.
A Moose in Love <parkstreetbooboo@gmail.com>: Jun 18 06:31AM -0700

On Saturday, June 15, 2019 at 4:09:39 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
> > become lazy.
 
> He's trolling, per usual.
 
> Jill
 
I'm not trolling. It's just faster to not use the shift key, and yes, laziness is involved.
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jun 18 05:45AM -0700

I'm the Early Riser!! The SUN is my Alarm Clock! :-)
 
And it's my Lady Friend's BIRTHDAY TODAY!! :-)
 
John Kuthe...
Jack Granade <laffin@u.none>: Jun 18 08:29AM -0400

On 6/18/2019 7:29 AM, Bruce wrote:
 
> Everybody takes mini breaks. Some smoke, some scratch their ass, some
> look outside, some post in RFC, some worry about others posting in
> RFC.
 
Some Aussie asshat (you) display your jealous butthurt about
of the USA daily.
Pamela <pamela.poster@gmail.com>: Jun 18 01:27PM +0100


>> But you've travelled, haven't you?
 
> Four countries in Europe,
 
> three in North America,
 
Presumably that's U.S. and Canada but which is the third?
 
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 18 08:12AM -0400

songbird wrote:
 
> > https://www.texasmonthly.com/bbq/smoked-in-texas-texas-twinkies-at-hutchins-bbq/
 
> those sound great, wish i was within driving
> distance...
 
Same here but I'll probably have to make them myself if I ever
want to have some.
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