Saturday, June 15, 2019

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 8 topics

Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 15 08:01AM -0700

On Saturday, June 15, 2019 at 10:53:13 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > > like you said.
 
> > How do you know Bruce isn't using stainless steel?
 
> Because he got stains. It IS called stainless for a reason.
 
He referred to it as a "thin film". Even stainless steel
can get a deposit of protein or starch on it.
 
Stainless still isn't magic. It resists rust, that's all. Even
stainless will rust if you abuse it.
 
 
> Revere Ware cooks all of my meals just fine. You hate it, you
> don't use it, so you obviously know nothing about it. Move along,
> Cindy.
 
I know plenty about it. I've used pretty much every type of cookware
there is (not every brand, but every material).
 
 
> Cookware is no excuse for failure to cook a good meal, just an
> excuse. You learn to use what you have and any darn pan or pot
> can turn out good eats.
 
Give it a rest. I can turn out dinner for 20 on a campfire, and
have done so.
 
> To prevent stains, use stainless steel. It's named that for a
> reason. Hello???
 
Goodbye.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Jinx the Minx <jinxminx2@yahoo.com>: Jun 15 03:24PM


> Pots with a thick aluminum disk (even if encapsulated in stainless)
> are much better.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
My Revereware has the tri-ply aluminum disk on the bottom. I got my set
for Christmas nearly 30 years ago, and I'm still using them. They've been
the best pans ever.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 15 12:35PM -0400

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> Give it a rest. I can turn out dinner for 20 on a campfire, and
> have done so.
 
I can name that tune in 18 minutes. lol

> > To prevent stains, use stainless steel. It's named that for a
> > reason. Hello???
 
> Goodbye.
 
Happy Trails to you. :)
coltwvu@gmail.com: Jun 15 10:13AM -0700

Red kidney beans stains pans some too.
Bruce <bruce@invalid.invalid>: Jun 16 05:09AM +1000

On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 19:39:47 +1000, Bruce <bruce@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
 
>and freeze part. All good. Except they stain the pot really badly with
>a dark film. Is there a good way to avoid the discoloration or to get
>rid of it afterwards? Thanks.
 
Thanks, all. The first pot we tried was stainless steel, but it
stained. The second one was a Le Creuset and it stained too. I'll try
the bleach solution. If that doesn't help, I'll buy a pot just for
beans, since we have them all the time now.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 15 12:22PM -0700

On Saturday, June 15, 2019 at 10:01:36 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> He referred to it as a "thin film". Even stainless steel
> can get a deposit of protein or starch on it.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
That's true. I've got a set of Calphalon tri-ply cookware and when I cook
macaroni in it the bottom of the pan has a bluish stain. The only thing that
will remove that stain is Bar Tenders Friend.
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jun 15 11:46AM -0700

...when one of the foot slidey things started to slip!!
 
So I have to scrub the bottoms of BOTH foot slidey things, like I did for one this morning.
 
Nordictrack maintenance! NOT something I am BIG AT! The Nordictrack's job is to maintain ME! ;-)
 
John Kuthe...
penmart01@aol.com: Jun 15 10:59AM -0400

>> the basement
 
>Maybe they did in the past, but they do not now.
 
>People have asked, nothing available.
 
They likely stopped selling the kits due to liability, idiots doing
the conversion wrong and starting a fire. or? I had the propane
company I use make the conversion at the time they ran the line out to
my deck area, 17 years ago, took the guy 10 minutes, no charge... only
need to change the burner tubes and the regulator. which at that time
I ordered from Weber... I still have the kit for natural gas only I no
longer have that grill. However now Amazon sells the kits:
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=weber+gas+grill+parts+replacement&hvadid=77653062872438&hvbmt=bb&hvdev=c&hvqmt=b&tag=mh0b-20&ref=pd_sl_450yr0d93y_b
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Jun 15 10:59AM -0400

> hidden by a small shrub... can also be placed in the ground with only
> the fill exposed. A 50 gallon propane tank is the perect size for a
> gas grill plud a kitchen stove.
 
UH... you were talking about a *500* gallon tank, not a 50 gallon tank.
 
Jill
penmart01@aol.com: Jun 15 11:01AM -0400

On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 10:03:04 +1000, Bruce <bruce@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
 
>>leaks. I save about 25% on my heating bill by using propane instead
>>of oil.
 
>Do you use that money to heat your basement?
 
Actually yes, the boiler is in the basement.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Jun 15 11:01AM -0400

> right. Thing is I haven't used it yet... was a mistake buying so
> large a unit for just two people. And we don't like to eat outdoors
> where it can be hot and buggy.
 
Hint: Just because you cook the food outdoors doesn't mean you have to
*eat* outdoors. :)
 
Jill
penmart01@aol.com: Jun 15 11:06AM -0400


>We cooked with propane for 36 years on two different stoves and never
>had that problem. Maybe you don't have the right regulator or orifices.
> Crappy vent too.
 
Probably poor exhausting and cooking a lot of fatty foods. There's
nothing sticky or sooty with propane.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 15 12:35PM -0400

> right. Thing is I haven't used it yet... was a mistake buying so
> large a unit for just two people. And we don't like to eat outdoors
> where it can be hot and buggy.
 
Sounds like you could have just bought a cheap charcoal Weber
grill. You don't grill often and it's only for 2 people. That's
all I needed for family of 4, then later family of 2.
 
As far as eating outdoors? Lame, imo. Either the damn bugs or
it's too cold out.
 
Sitting down at a table to eat is only when company comes for me.
With one or 2 others that live together, heck, you've been
talking all day anyway. No need for MORE conversation.
 
I like to multi-task. I always eat with a good book or a good tv
show/movie.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 15 12:36PM -0400

> > Crappy vent too.
 
> Probably poor exhausting and cooking a lot of fatty foods. There's
> nothing sticky or sooty with propane.
 
Ed just doesn't know. He overpays cleaning ladies that probably
wipe down his cabinets occasionally. Any well used kitchen will
get grease on cabinets, etc over time. Doesn't matter whether you
use electric or any kind of gas. Even the best hood/exhaust isn't
perfect. It happens if you actually use your stove all the time
and not just have a "show kitchen."
notbob <notbob@q.com>: Jun 15 10:41AM -0600

On 6/14/2019 10:31 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
 
> We cooked with propane for 36 years on two different stoves and never
> had that problem.
 
I have.
 
Recently discovered that Meguiar's Hot Rims Wheel & Tire Cleaner cuts
that old grease. 409 don't get it!
 
> Maybe you don't have the right regulator or orifices.
 
USA made Peerless propane 4-burner stove.
 
>  Crappy vent too.
 
Possibly .....but I do have one. ;)
 
nb
Hank Rogers <nospam@invalid.org>: Jun 15 01:46PM -0500

Gary wrote:
> use electric or any kind of gas. Even the best hood/exhaust isn't
> perfect. It happens if you actually use your stove all the time
> and not just have a "show kitchen."
 
He has a show kitchen in his goat barn?
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 15 12:38PM -0400

jmcquown wrote:
> > That dish would make about 3-4 meals for Jill. ;)
 
> Yes it looks good and yes, it would be 3-4 meals for me. I don't know
> why you chide me for not having a huge appetite.
 
Just teasing. If anything, I should be jealous that you eat so
little and remain happy. A small meal is just an appetizer to me.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Jun 15 02:44PM -0400

On 6/15/2019 12:38 PM, Gary wrote:
>> why you chide me for not having a huge appetite.
 
> Just teasing. If anything, I should be jealous that you eat so
> little and remain happy. A small meal is just an appetizer to me.
 
We definitely eat differently. I eat only as much as will fill me up.
It doesn't take much. What is appropriate for your body is not the same
as mine.
 
Why do you find different portion preferences so hard to believe?
 
Jill
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 15 12:36PM -0400


> You may not hunt but living close to the ocean is a great way to fill
> your freezer with free seafood.
 
Fresh fish I get often. Friends that like to fish often offer me
some. I get my fill.
 
Clams and oysters, crabs, use to have good places to catch my own
but now all the good spots are private property so can't get
there.
 
One year I crabbed all season long (basically June - August) in a
"honey-spot" that I found. At low tide I could hand catch a
bushel in about 30 minutes. Toss out a crab pot in the evening
and next morning have 4 dozen in there. All gone now - private
property (no access)
 
That one year with the crabbing, we (wife and kids) ate all the
crabmeat we wanted during those 3 months PLUS by September, I had
put away 28 pounds of crabmeat in the freezer. It was good.
Having so much, I got to try so many different crab recipes.
Eating them fresh steamed is the less desirable way.
 
Shrimp I buy often. Frozen is fine. Scallops are good but
overpriced and overrated, imo. I rarely bother with them.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 15 12:48PM -0400

A Moose in Love wrote:
 
> i was actually manipulated into buying a frozen tv dinner today. hungry man turkey. well, it's not like home made, but it is tasty. the stuffing, mashed pots = ok. the turkey was some kind of turkey roll but edible. kernel corn as well. it's ok. but i'll stick to scratch made food as much as possible.
 
Those aren't too bad. I'll buy one or two occasionally but only
when they go on sale for $2.00 - $2.50 each. So convenient for a
quick no-cook meal. Try the one with 2 chicken planks and the
bourbon bbq sauce sometime. I love that sauce. :)
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 15 12:48PM -0400

dsi1 wrote:
 
> I used to like TV dinners when I was a kid. Back in the old days, that was a good meal. These days I think they're just so-so. The only TV dinners that I like are cheap Mesican TV dinners. Beats me why I like them - the Mexicans probably think they're an insult to their food culture. I can relate to that but I still like them.
 
They still make those? I haven't seen them in years. I
agree...crappy mexican food but all tasted decent to me. :)
Maybe because everything was drowned in sauce.
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jun 15 11:27AM -0700

On Saturday, June 15, 2019 at 6:48:50 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
 
> They still make those? I haven't seen them in years. I
> agree...crappy mexican food but all tasted decent to me. :)
> Maybe because everything was drowned in sauce.
 
My guess is that the Mexicans complained about those lousy enchilada and tamale TV dinners and ruined it for us non-Mexicans that thought they were ok because those things had some flavor and didn't feature as the main part some kind of weird, low quality, meat of some sort.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B74DxtVeBOI
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jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Jun 15 11:19AM -0400

> On Friday, June 14, 2019 at 2:35:24 PM UTC-5, A Moose in Love wrote:
 
>> i have no problem typing on the laptop keyboard. however, i don't use caps on the laptop because it does slow me down.
 
> You didn't take touch typing while in high school?
 
LOL, Joan. Don't know about you but when I was in high school the only
boys who took typing did so because the class was filled with girls.
They didn't actually care about learning to type.
 
Personal computers weren't even a gleam in someone's eye back then.
Laptop computers, what's that? ;) Having said that, you don't have to
type on the laptop keyboard. I've always used a separate keyboard.
 
Jill
"Ophelia" <OphElsnore@gmail.com>: Jun 15 03:02PM +0100

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On Friday, June 14, 2019 at 5:35:12 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> with a heavy birth weight. I always thought that was funny.
 
> Good luck with the losing of the weight. My guess is that your best bet is
> to cut out carbs but don't quote me on that because I could be wrong.
 
you're not wrong about the carbs. that worked for me once, but it no longer
does. meat and veggies and some fat will really take the weight off if
you're in that place. it no longer works for me. one full meal per day is
good.
 
====
 
A friend lost a lot of weight on 'Myfitnesspal' Have a look:) I can't
comment on it personally but she seemed to get much thinner quickly and was
very happy with what she was allowed to eat.
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