Saturday, June 15, 2019

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 8 topics

Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jun 15 09:53AM -0400

On 6/15/2019 8:26 AM, jay wrote:
 
> The burners produce a nice clean looking blue flame and no soot on the
> cookware.  The vent is larger than the stove and appears to pull.  If
> it's the vent the problem is fixable as we can't change the fuel source.
 
I should have been more specific. Our vent was crappy, not yours. For
most quick things like frying an egg or heating water for tea, I never
turned the vent on.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Jun 15 09:57AM -0400

On 6/14/2019 8:40 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> the basement
 
> Maybe they did in the past, but they do not now.
 
> People have asked, nothing available.
 
He completely ignored what you copy/pasted from Weber's own website.
 
Jill
penmart01@aol.com: Jun 15 10:06AM -0400

On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 17:22:43 -0400, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
wrote:
 
 
>You're assuming everyone has a place to put a big propane tank and uses
>it to also heat the house.
 
>Jill
 
I'm assuming nothing, every size house lot has room, a 50 gallon tank
is small, no larger than a computer chair or a trash can and can be
hidden by a small shrub... can also be placed in the ground with only
the fill exposed. A 50 gallon propane tank is the perect size for a
gas grill plud a kitchen stove.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 15 07:21AM -0700

On Saturday, June 15, 2019 at 9:58:00 AM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
 
> > People have asked, nothing available.
 
> He completely ignored what you copy/pasted from Weber's own website.
 
> Jill
 
Of course. If it doesn't reinforce his beliefs, he ignores it.
 
Cindy Hamilton
penmart01@aol.com: Jun 15 10:31AM -0400

On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 17:42:53 -0600, U.S. Janet B. <JB@nospam.com>
wrote:
 
>>to assemble a grill
 
>the price would go up considerably if the grills were shipped fully
>assembled.
 
Actually not, all other household appliances are sold fully assembled,
even kitchen stoves. Weber wastes a lot of money on packaging
materials for their unassembled products... just that Weber has the
typidcal MEs friggen' morons.
 
>Did you ever get your new Weber put together?
 
Yes, but it was a PIA as it required a large level spot to get it done
right. Thing is I haven't used it yet... was a mistake buying so
large a unit for just two people. And we don't like to eat outdoors
where it can be hot and buggy.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 15 10:35AM -0400

> hidden by a small shrub... can also be placed in the ground with only
> the fill exposed. A 50 gallon propane tank is the perect size for a
> gas grill plud a kitchen stove.
 
My very first gas stove had a tank outside the kitchen. I don't
know what kind of gas it had, maybe propane if that's standard
after natural gas from city lines. It looked like a 4' tall
scuba tank. Lasted over a year for me, stove only. I didn't cook
that often though back then. I lived there for about 5 years and
only had to replace it once.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 15 07:46AM -0700

On Saturday, June 15, 2019 at 10:31:36 AM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
> even kitchen stoves. Weber wastes a lot of money on packaging
> materials for their unassembled products... just that Weber has the
> typidcal MEs friggen' morons.
 
No matter how much Weber spends on packaging materials, they wouldn't
do it if it wasn't profitable for them.
 
Cindy Hamilton
penmart01@aol.com: Jun 15 10:59AM -0400

>> the basement
 
>Maybe they did in the past, but they do not now.
 
>People have asked, nothing available.
 
They likely stopped selling the kits due to liability, idiots doing
the conversion wrong and starting a fire. or? I had the propane
company I use make the conversion at the time they ran the line out to
my deck area, 17 years ago, took the guy 10 minutes, no charge... only
need to change the burner tubes and the regulator. which at that time
I ordered from Weber... I still have the kit for natural gas only I no
longer have that grill. However now Amazon sells the kits:
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=weber+gas+grill+parts+replacement&hvadid=77653062872438&hvbmt=bb&hvdev=c&hvqmt=b&tag=mh0b-20&ref=pd_sl_450yr0d93y_b
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 15 10:16AM -0400

songbird wrote:
> and some water and a scrubby that will not disintegrate
> upon exposure to bleach.
 
> better yet is to cook in things that don't stain.
 
Even better still, use a stainless steal pot. They don't stain
like he describes and I have cooked black beans. They don't stain
like that but burned on things might need the bleach solution
like you said.
 
No need to spend tons of money for some cool pot. Buy a Revere
Ware pot of the size you want. Stainless steel Revere Ware with
copper bottoms. They are very inexpensive and I use them almost
exclusively. Only other pan I use occasionally is small cast iron
frying pan, nicely seasoned (but not for beans).
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 15 07:27AM -0700

On Saturday, June 15, 2019 at 10:17:00 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> like he describes and I have cooked black beans. They don't stain
> like that but burned on things might need the bleach solution
> like you said.
 
How do you know Bruce isn't using stainless steel?

> copper bottoms. They are very inexpensive and I use them almost
> exclusively. Only other pan I use occasionally is small cast iron
> frying pan, nicely seasoned (but not for beans).
 
I hate Revere. The thin scrim of copper on the bottom is useless.
 
Pots with a thick aluminum disk (even if encapsulated in stainless)
are much better.
 
Cindy Hamilton
jay <jay@mail.com>: Jun 15 08:50AM -0600

On 6/15/19 8:27 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> Pots with a thick aluminum disk (even if encapsulated in stainless)
> are much better.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
Agreement about those copper bottoms. Revere Ware has been making tri
ply aluminum disc bottom pans since the '80's. One of my favorite pans
is a Revere Ware 12" skillet with the aluminum disc bottom. The older
ones are the best. I have found some on ebay.
 
My designated cook pot for black beans is a Piazza stainless with
aluminum bottom. You don't hear about them much but they are super
duper pots.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 15 10:53AM -0400

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > like that but burned on things might need the bleach solution
> > like you said.

> How do you know Bruce isn't using stainless steel?
 
Because he got stains. It IS called stainless for a reason.
 
> > exclusively. Only other pan I use occasionally is small cast iron
> > frying pan, nicely seasoned (but not for beans).
 
> I hate Revere. The thin scrim of copper on the bottom is useless.
 
I will agree with the thin copper bottom. More for looks
probably.
Makes them look all pretty and stuff if you keep them shined (I
don't). :)
 
Revere Ware cooks all of my meals just fine. You hate it, you
don't use it, so you obviously know nothing about it. Move along,
Cindy.
 
Now comes the bashing retort, wait for it.
 
Cookware is no excuse for failure to cook a good meal, just an
excuse. You learn to use what you have and any darn pan or pot
can turn out good eats.
 
To prevent stains, use stainless steel. It's named that for a
reason. Hello???
lucretiaborgia@fl.it: Jun 15 11:46AM -0300

>> unexploded bomb which arrived in my grandmothers asparagus bed, or the
>> one which completely wiped out my husbands home in Portsmouth.
 
>Or the Doodlebug that flew over our house every morning like clockwork.
 
My grandmothers house was quite a distance from the dockyard, so no
excuse. There was also a bomb that hit the pub where my future inlaws
were celebrating a wedding, killed them all except my MIL (who
couldn't go because she had just had her youngest and it was too much
effort to lug that iron lung like thing one used for baby's instead of
a gas mask) Two of her brothers survived because they were away in the
RN.
 
http://www.halinaking.co.uk/Location/Yorkshire/Frames/History/1939%20World%20War%20II/WWII%20Gas%20Masks.htm
 
I had one of the Mickey Mouse ones but you put the whole baby in the
ones on the right.
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jun 15 10:06AM -0400

On 6/15/2019 9:02 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> to find he's bought flowers for me. But never on Valentine's Day,
> Sweetest Day, or any of those other Days.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
Bought my wife flowers two days after Valentine's day. On sale for half
price.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 15 10:35AM -0400

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
 
> > Cindy Hamilton
 
> Bought my wife flowers two days after Valentine's day. On sale for half
> price.
 
cheapskate! ;)
graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: Jun 15 07:19AM -0600

On 2019-06-15 7:14 a.m., songbird wrote:
 
> i need to lose about 20 more pounds before fall. i hope
> i can do it this year. we'll see... :)
 
> songbird
 
However, choose your vegetables wisely. A local diet clinic allows one
to eat unlimited broccoli but absolutely no carrots.
A Moose in Love <parkstreetbooboo@gmail.com>: Jun 15 06:38AM -0700

On Saturday, June 15, 2019 at 9:19:56 AM UTC-4, graham wrote:
 
> > songbird
 
> However, choose your vegetables wisely. A local diet clinic allows one
> to eat unlimited broccoli but absolutely no carrots.
 
i do like fried cauliflower. it's certainly not a low weight loss way to prepare it since it's breaded etc.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 15 06:41AM -0700

On Saturday, June 15, 2019 at 9:19:56 AM UTC-4, graham wrote:
 
> > songbird
 
> However, choose your vegetables wisely. A local diet clinic allows one
> to eat unlimited broccoli but absolutely no carrots.
 
That's foolish, unless it's for a diabetic whose blood sugar spikes
after eating carrots.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jun 15 10:01AM -0400

On 6/15/2019 9:41 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> That's foolish, unless it's for a diabetic whose blood sugar spikes
> after eating carrots.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
My daughter tried Keto diet for a few weeks. Carrots were not allowed
because of the sugar. She got sick of it after a couple of weeks
following their plan.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 15 07:19AM -0700

On Saturday, June 15, 2019 at 10:01:55 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
 
> My daughter tried Keto diet for a few weeks. Carrots were not allowed
> because of the sugar. She got sick of it after a couple of weeks
> following their plan.
 
It's a difficult regimen. Nearly everybody can benefit from cutting
carbs (it's the low-hanging fruit [heh] in the diet), but extreme
dieting is difficult to sustain.
 
So many people want the "quick fix", and when they stop the diet they
start gaining the weight back. I find a much better approach is
"I'm going to eat differently, forever", lose the weight slowly and
not stress if a piece of birthday cake (provided it's actually good
cake) passes my lips.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 15 10:35AM -0400

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > to eat unlimited broccoli but absolutely no carrots.
 
> That's foolish, unless it's for a diabetic whose blood sugar spikes
> after eating carrots.
 
It's all about eat a good balanced diet.
To lose weight be more active and eat less calories
than you burn.
 
It's easy to slowly gain weight but whenever a diet shows up,
it's all about quick results.
 
No need at all to eat miserably or starve yourself. Just slightly
cut down on calories and slightly increase your activity. No
radical change. Doing it this way will give you positive results
but slow ones. It took you several months to gain those pounds.
Give it the same time to lose them.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 15 06:38AM -0700

On Saturday, June 15, 2019 at 9:16:37 AM UTC-4, graham wrote:
 
> > Cindy Hamilton
 
> and also less healthy given that one adds butter or oil and honey to
> muesli, bake it thereby turning it into granola.
 
There's nothing intrinsically bad about butter, oil, or honey.
The dose makes the poison.
 
Cindy Hamilton
penmart01@aol.com: Jun 15 09:33AM -0400

On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 15:03:07 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
 
>> I'll hafta buy a "real" chicken, too. Not one of those CFO places.
>> nb
 
>paprika gets old and tasteless pretty quick. throw out your old stuff and get some fresh if you are gong to make this dish.
 
Depends on how stored. I buy in bulk sizes and keep them in my
freezer with small bottles in the pantry filled for daily use. Frozen
spices and herbs will keep well for several years. Also as much as
possible I buy whole spices.
A Moose in Love <parkstreetbooboo@gmail.com>: Jun 15 06:36AM -0700

On Saturday, June 15, 2019 at 9:33:31 AM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
> freezer with small bottles in the pantry filled for daily use. Frozen
> spices and herbs will keep well for several years. Also as much as
> possible I buy whole spices.
 
i purchase mine in a resealable bag. it only lasts for max. 3 weeks before i need some more. i keep it in the fridge. however the freezer sounds like a good idea.
Bruce <bruce@invalid.invalid>: Jun 15 07:57PM +1000

On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 02:56:09 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> you're impossible to have a conversation with because the chips on
>> your shoulder always interfere.
 
>Proof positive that it takes one to know one.
 
You're arrogant and have multiple chips on your shoulder? Thanks for
sharing.
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