Thursday, June 20, 2019

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 8 topics

John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jun 20 08:10AM -0700

...while Iggy Pop's "Superbabe" was playing over my JBL Control X's and I was eating my breakfast!
 
And she WAS TOO! :-) I wanna be her BICYCLE SEAT! :-)
 
John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and Admirer Of The Beauty Of Human Females!
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 20 08:14AM -0700

On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 10:10:14 AM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
 
> ...while Iggy Pop's "Superbabe" was playing over my JBL Control X's and I was eating my breakfast!
 
> John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and Admirer Of The Beauty Of Human Females!
 
Careful there, you'll cause that green-eyed monster to emerge from your brown
'lady love.'
A Moose in Love <parkstreetbooboo@gmail.com>: Jun 20 06:04AM -0700


> > John Kuthe...
 
> If she has HEAVY, THICK Indian accent any call center/customer service department
> will hire her.
 
I once phoned up a call center. The voice on the other end was pure pseudo English though. No foreign accent. But the person could only mumble. I wonder who would give him a job dealing with the public. I kept asking him to repeat himself, and he got really offended and hung up on me. I wasn't being mean, I just needed to hear proper English. It doesn't have to be perfect, but to call the NG reader Outlook Express 'loof'. I finally thought that he meant 'outlook'. That somehow translates into 'loof'. Too much time since childhood spent on electronic devices.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 20 08:02AM -0700

On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 8:04:46 AM UTC-5, A Moose in Love wrote:
 
> I once phoned up a call center. The voice on the other end was pure pseudo English though. No foreign accent. But the person could only mumble. I wonder who would give him a job dealing with the public. I kept asking him to repeat himself, and he got really offended and hung up on me. I wasn't being mean, I just needed to hear proper English. It doesn't have to be perfect, but to call the NG reader Outlook Express 'loof'. I finally thought that he meant 'outlook'. That somehow translates into 'loof'. Too much time since childhood spent on electronic devices.
 
The very few times I do have to call some company and the voice on the other
end is heavily Indian accented I cringe before I can even state my business.
 
One of these days companies will learn that just because their customer service
representatives CAN speak English doesn't mean they are speaking English that
can be understood by the average American. When I'm connected with someone
who can barely be understood I ask for someone who can speak better English
or someone located in the USA.
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jun 20 08:13AM -0700

> can be understood by the average American. When I'm connected with someone
> who can barely be understood I ask for someone who can speak better English
> or someone located in the USA.
 
Hee hee! A few years ago when I was working for a call center here in STL for 1800-Comcast and we were All agents in training during a break once I was joking that we should FEIGN an Indian or Chinese accent when answering calls!
 
John Kuthe...
"Ophelia" <OphElsnore@gmail.com>: Jun 20 02:05PM +0100

"A Moose in Love" wrote in message
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On Wednesday, June 19, 2019 at 4:54:57 PM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
 
> Sometimes.
 
> =====
 
> Good:) What kind of things?
 
The usual Ophelia. That means whatever I have on hand and whatever I feel
like eating. You're probably thinking that I would make something special
between games. That's not necessarily the case. Anything from a grilled
cheese sandwich, to pizza, to a stew etc.
 
 
====
 
Well at least you make stew:))
A Moose in Love <parkstreetbooboo@gmail.com>: Jun 20 06:14AM -0700

On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 9:05:26 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
> cheese sandwich, to pizza, to a stew etc.
 
> ====
 
> Well at least you make stew:))
 
I tend to keep cooking simple. The most complicated thing I've made is on the level of a Beef Wellington. And that wasn't at home, it was at work. Beef Wellington is not really complicated, but it's very tasty. We used goose liver pate' to spread over the filet mignon that was seared first. I never made the pate', or the puff pastry. That was the Garde Manger and the Pastry Chef respectively. I was a lowly 1st Assistant Cook.
"Ophelia" <OphElsnore@gmail.com>: Jun 20 03:56PM +0100

"A Moose in Love" wrote in message
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On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 9:05:26 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
> cheese sandwich, to pizza, to a stew etc.
 
> ====
 
> Well at least you make stew:))
 
I tend to keep cooking simple. The most complicated thing I've made is on
the level of a Beef Wellington. And that wasn't at home, it was at work.
Beef Wellington is not really complicated, but it's very tasty. We used
goose liver pate' to spread over the filet mignon that was seared first. I
never made the pate', or the puff pastry. That was the Garde Manger and the
Pastry Chef respectively. I was a lowly 1st Assistant Cook.
 
==
 
Being an assistant cook you must have learned many good dishes. Did you
ever make it for yourself?
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jun 20 10:29AM -0400

On 2019-06-20 7:17 a.m., Gary wrote:
> Just a visit to one doesn't count. To live in one for a year is
> the real way to learn. And that's only learning about one little
> area of a country.
 
How could you know that if if you have never been out of your own
country for more than a couple hours?
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jun 20 10:50AM -0400

On 6/20/2019 7:17 AM, Gary wrote:
> Just a visit to one doesn't count. To live in one for a year is
> the real way to learn. And that's only learning about one little
> area of a country.
 
Right, but learning about that one little section can be very rewarding.
 
I watch many travel shows and documentaries and find them very
interesting. It is still not the same as walking into a 600 year old
building and marveling at the details of construction, the carvings, the
sculptures.
 
One of the most satisfying things for my wife was walking down the same
street in Paterno Italy as her father and grandfather did a hundred
years ago. I was glad I was able to give her that experience also.
 
Sure, a year would be great but a few weeks can be enlightening,
especially if you get away from the main tourist attractions.
"Ophelia" <OphElsnore@gmail.com>: Jun 20 04:06PM +0100

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message news:83NOE.37089$rs7.11052@fx14.iad...
 
On 6/20/2019 7:17 AM, Gary wrote:
> Just a visit to one doesn't count. To live in one for a year is
> the real way to learn. And that's only learning about one little
> area of a country.
 
Right, but learning about that one little section can be very rewarding.
 
I watch many travel shows and documentaries and find them very
interesting. It is still not the same as walking into a 600 year old
building and marveling at the details of construction, the carvings, the
sculptures.
 
One of the most satisfying things for my wife was walking down the same
street in Paterno Italy as her father and grandfather did a hundred
years ago. I was glad I was able to give her that experience also.
 
Sure, a year would be great but a few weeks can be enlightening,
especially if you get away from the main tourist attractions.
 
==
 
I have lived in various countries. Some good some not so good.
 
D. has done similar. I think it says it all to say that we never travel
outside of UK now.
 
We are more than happy to stay here:))
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jun 20 10:36AM -0400

On 2019-06-20 8:51 a.m., Gary wrote:
 
> The now uppity Europeans are the ones that came to North America
> and totally screwed the North American indians. My ancestors did
> the same. Even Jill's beloved Scottish ancestors sucked. heheh
 
Well, it's not as if some of the native people weren't screwing over
each other. They were not one big group who were all getting along.
They were often at war with each other. The native people of the Niagara
area were wiped out in a conflict between the Huron and the Iroquois
before the Europeans arrived here. Cortez had only a handful of soldiers
but recruited a much larger army from local tribes to defeat the Aztec
empire. The Aztec had been incredibly oppressive and the others got
tired of having to hand over all their wealth and so many of their
children, who were being sacrificed.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 20 07:43AM -0700

On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 9:33:52 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> empire. The Aztec had been incredibly oppressive and the others got
> tired of having to hand over all their wealth and so many of their
> children, who were being sacrificed.
 
Shhhhhhhhh, you're confusing Gary with facts. Shame on you! To hear Gary's
tale you'd think they were all living in one giant teepee as one big happy
family. Some tribes were quite ruthless and brutal to other tribes and that's
only because they could be. The 'white man' was not the only who could be
warlike and brutal but never let facts get in the way of truth.
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jun 20 07:46AM -0700

On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 9:33:52 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> empire. The Aztec had been incredibly oppressive and the others got
> tired of having to hand over all their wealth and so many of their
> children, who were being sacrificed.
 
Humans generally SUCK! Egocentric PRICKS we are! And we will fall victim of our own EVIL EGOCENTRICITY!! And HUMANS are just a BLIP on the radar screen of geologic TIME!!
 
We will be Fossils, but NOT SOON! As WE measure SOON!
 
John Kuthe....
 
Evolution: Mother Gaia's Way of Covering Her Mistakes!
A Moose in Love <parkstreetbooboo@gmail.com>: Jun 20 08:00AM -0700

> family. Some tribes were quite ruthless and brutal to other tribes and that's
> only because they could be. The 'white man' was not the only who could be
> warlike and brutal but never let facts get in the way of truth.
 
A very good work of fiction is 'The Orenda' by Joseph Boyden.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Orenda
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jun 20 10:22AM -0400

> I don't drink nearly as much milk as I used to now,
> and even 5-6 years ago, a gallon would often go sour long before
> I had come close to using it all.
 
I buy milk in 4 liter bags.... actually a bag of three 1.3 liter bags.
Each of those bags will keep me going for at least a week. I get lactose
free milk and it has a long shelf life.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 20 07:54AM -0700

> I don't drink nearly as much milk as I used to now,
> and even 5-6 years ago, a gallon would often go sour long before
> I had come close to using it all.
 
I buy, usually a gallon of milk per week. Sometimes I will have a bit less
than a half gallon left then I will buy a half gallon and pour it into the
gallon container. Needless to say, I drink a lot of milk; always have.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 20 09:05AM -0400

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > the bread outlet was closed by the time I got out that way.
 
> > Salting buttered toast? What's wrong with you? ;)
 
> I do the same. What's wrong with salting it?
 
Do you really? Why the urge or need?
Do you use unsalted butter then salt it?
Why not just use salted butter?
 
I use both for different reasons but never considered sprinkling
salt on a slice of buttered toast.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 20 07:03AM -0700

On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 9:05:18 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
 
> > > Salting buttered toast? What's wrong with you? ;)
 
> > I do the same. What's wrong with salting it?
 
> Do you really? Why the urge or need?
 
It tastes better that way.
 
> Do you use unsalted butter then salt it?
> Why not just use salted butter?
 
Nope. Salted butter plus salt.
 
> I use both for different reasons but never considered sprinkling
> salt on a slice of buttered toast.
 
Sometimes it's lemon-pepper seasoning instead.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jun 20 10:27AM -0400

On 2019-06-20 7:15 a.m., Gary wrote:
>> buttered toast. I shall try that when I get some bread. I am fresh out and
>> the bread outlet was closed by the time I got out that way.
 
> Salting buttered toast? What's wrong with you? ;)
 
Oh no, That could be good. A heaping teaspoon of salt on butter toast
could be delicious, but be sure to use unsalted butter.
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jun 20 10:33AM -0400

On 6/20/2019 9:05 AM, Gary wrote:
> Why not just use salted butter?
 
> I use both for different reasons but never considered sprinkling
> salt on a slice of buttered toast.
 
Nor have I but I'm going to try it. One of the good things of eating a
good potato chip is the hit of salt you get. This would be similar.
 
Finishing salt is course and give a little crunch to the food too.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 20 07:47AM -0700

On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 9:33:31 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
 
> Nor have I but I'm going to try it. One of the good things of eating a
> good potato chip is the hit of salt you get. This would be similar.
 
When I butter and run a split English muffin under the broiler it gets a mere
dusting of salt when it comes out. Really adds to the flavor and it's not
overly salty or briny.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jun 20 10:17AM -0400

On 2019-06-19 11:21 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
 
> It is, or should be, a choice, not an obligation.
 
> I'm old fashioned about it too.  If you have kids, they should be raised
> by a stay-at-home parent, not warehoused in day care.
 
I have to agree with that. I have very positive memories of my childhood
with a stay at home mom, and not such pleasant memories of early school
years. If you decide to have children you should be prepared to raise
them and not farm them them out to be watched by others.
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jun 20 10:19AM -0400

On 6/20/2019 12:15 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> year after giving birth. Of course (s)he gets paid
> to do this. The parents have to have an income to
> support the baby - that's just common sense.
 
Exactly, they should have the income to support them. One alternative
is not have have them.
 
Yes, some people have them and have low wage jobs that one income would
not support them. There are many others where one spouse could stay
home and make some tough sacrifices. Like drive a Chevy instead of a
BMW. Or live in a 2000 sq ft house instead of a 5,000. Or take a
couple of day trips for vacation instead of a week at Disney.
 
Often it is not "need" but priorities.
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jun 20 10:25AM -0400

On 6/20/2019 6:11 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> Big Rock Candy Mountain of parenthood, quality day care would go
> a long way to remediating inadequate parenting by single parents.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
That is true. Some parents should not be allowed near their kids and
care takers are really good influences in their development. Not all
day care is quality though. At least once a month it seems some day
care worker is locked up for child abuse.
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